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Worst loss in the history of the school?

Started by Brass Knob, December 22, 2007, 05:12:29 pm

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rjmass

One of the reasons that was stated also for playing in Little Rock also was so the players could play on the court.

The NCAA First Round (which if the hogs make it will probably go to) are being held at Altell. 

While it was a hard loss today if we can make it and win there in March, maybe it will be worth it.
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WMHawgfan

I don't really take solice in the fact that App St. was 25-7 last year and nearly made the tourney. The team we played today came in to the game with a 4-5 record and not one decent win on their resume.

Just call it what it is. This team sucks.

 

hogsanity

Quote from: HawgG on December 22, 2007, 08:27:41 pm
You must remember to take into account the state on the program at the time of these loses.

I'll be willing to bet that Nolan's teams at the end were not on the level of this current team and I know that Stan's early teams were not even on the level of Nolan's weaker teams.

This '07-'08 team was preseason top 20 and picked to run away with the SECW(they haven't played yet so who knows)

BTW they played in LR which while not Bud Walton it is still pro Razorbacks.

When we lost that game in Puerto Rico, the the naia team when Nolan was coach, we were ranked in the teens at the time.
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Red Tusk

Hate to bring it up but I believe we lost to the other ASU (Ark State U) way back when.  I consider that the worst loss in the history of the U of A.  This loss today is not close to that IMO.
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Hawgon

We lost to one of the Louisiana directional schools back when we had Thurman and Williamson and all of those guys.  Basketball ain't like football.  You can't just line up and beat the darn out of the little guys.  Sometimes they get hot and you're out of luck.

All that said, we still suck this year.

BigHog396

Quote from: Hawgon on December 23, 2007, 12:45:31 am
We lost to one of the Louisiana directional schools back when we had Thurman and Williamson and all of those guys.  Basketball ain't like football.  You can't just line up and beat the crap out of the little guys.  Sometimes they get hot and you're out of luck.

All that said, we still suck this year.
Damn, I had totally forgotten about that one.  We were #9 at the time, and lost to Northeast Lousy-anna.  Bet you would never guess where that game was played. ;)

Brent Morris

Why are we surprised? Seriously? We knew coming in that unless we got adequate point guard play, we wouldn't contend running Pelphrey's style. Gary Ervin couldn't start for my old high school. And don't get me started on our play from behind the arc. In a word.....pathetic!

jamie72921

Quote from: hogsanity on December 22, 2007, 07:45:16 pm
We lost to Some naia team from Puerto Rico in a holiday tourney a few years ago, when nolan was still the coach.  We lost to Western Carolina at home during Heaths 1st or 2nd season.  This is a game we should have won, but no where near the worst loss in school history.

For those who don't know basketball, the loss to PR was in a holiday tournament on the PR's home floor. If you know anything about college basketball, then you would be aware that small schools can be lethal in that kind of setting.

Hawaii-Chaminade took down a Ralph Sampson led Va. Cavaliers team that was ranked number one in the nation during that season. Ball St. beat a Roy Williams final fouf Kansas team and another top 10 team just a few years ago with a sqaud that didn't even win 20 games in that season.

To act like that loss in that setting was unheard of, or even rare, is just dumb. These tournaments are the perfect example of why BCS schools won't play smaller schools on their home courts. They might just lose.

To me, the most embarassing loss in Hog Basketball history dating back to the Sutton era, was to a very good Georgetown team. It wasn't the fact that we lost that was so bad, we were playing in Landover, Md, it was the complete domination of our team that day that was so embarassing. We only scored 30 something points and this was after the advent of the shot clock.

Another bad loss was the loss to Oral Roberts under Nolan. That was very hard to swallow, but that was an NIT team that year and not a good squad. Still very hard to take.
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HawgG

The problem with the SEC this year is that only Ole Miss, Vandy, and Tennessee can provide Arkansas with the kind of impressive wins they need to make the NCAAT.

Right now I can't see this team winning at Tenn.
Stan had success against Vandy but that doesn't matter any more.
Arkansas has much more experience and talent then the Rebels but Ole Miss has Andy Kennedy coaching them, unarguably their advantage.

If Arkansas lose to Baylor then they will have to win the SECT to get into the NCAAT.They might have to do that anyway.

ErieHog

Quote from: jamie72921 on December 23, 2007, 01:07:57 am
For those who don't know basketball, the loss to PR was in a holiday tournament on the PR's home floor. If you know anything about college basketball, then you would be aware that small schools can be lethal in that kind of setting.

Hawaii-Chaminade took down a Ralph Sampson led Va. Cavaliers team that was ranked number one in the nation during that season. Ball St. beat a Roy Williams final fouf Kansas team and another top 10 team just a few years ago with a sqaud that didn't even win 20 games in that season.

To act like that loss in that setting was unheard of, or even rare, is just dumb. These tournaments are the perfect example of why BCS schools won't play smaller schools on their home courts. They might just lose.

To me, the most embarassing loss in Hog Basketball history dating back to the Sutton era, was to a very good Georgetown team. It wasn't the fact that we lost that was so bad, we were playing in Landover, Md, it was the complete domination of our team that day that was so embarassing. We only scored 30 something points and this was after the advent of the shot clock.

Another bad loss was the loss to Oral Roberts under Nolan. That was very hard to swallow, but that was an NIT team that year and not a good squad. Still very hard to take.

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NAIA.      That's not like Michigan losing to App. State in football;  that's like Arkansas losing to NWACC or *slightly* better in basketball.
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jgphillips3

December 23, 2007, 09:32:40 am #61 Last Edit: December 23, 2007, 09:35:23 am by jgphillips3
Quote from: HawgG on December 22, 2007, 08:27:41 pm
You must remember to take into account the state on the program at the time of these loses.

I'll be willing to bet that Nolan's teams at the end were not on the level of this current team and I know that Stan's early teams were not even on the level of Nolan's weaker teams.

This '07-'08 team was preseason top 20 and picked to run away with the SECW(they haven't played yet so who knows)

BTW they played in LR which while not Bud Walton it is still pro Razorbacks.

This isn't the worst loss.  There have been others.  Losing to Western Carolina in Bud Walton 62-59 under Heath a few years back was worse in my opinion.  In the MayDay era, we lost to TCU in 1989.  That TCU game ended 51-45.  It was one of the worst losses of the Nolan Richardson era because that team was loaded and was way outplayed that day in a pathetic loss.  I think that was the lowest point total of any Nolan Richardson team ever.  That team beat Loyola-Marymount in the tournament and lost to Louisville in a game in which we looked leg weary after the Loyola game.

I am sure there are others going way back, but those two jump out as worse losses based upon expectations at the time and in how we performed in the game overall.  By the way, I was at the game, the crowd was great and I plunked down for seven tickets for my family and it was terribly dissappointing and a pitiful effort.  Please don't take this as an apologist post.  It was a TERRIBLE loss, just not the worst in my opinion.

Hogdomer

Quote from: Oliver Miller on December 22, 2007, 05:33:25 pm
Has a Razorback basketball team that returned all of it's starters from a year ago (and made a trip to the NCAAT) lost to a Division I-AA team the very next year?

There is no Divison 1-AA in basketball.  There is only Division 1, Division 2 and Division 3.  App State is D-1.

 

Hogdomer

Quote from: Red Tusk on December 23, 2007, 12:40:24 am
Hate to bring it up but I believe we lost to the other ASU (Ark State U) way back when.  I consider that the worst loss in the history of the U of A.  This loss today is not close to that IMO.

When did this happen?  If so, it must have been in the 60s or before.  

We did come back from 20 down to beat ASU in overtime in Nolan's second year, but I can't remember playing them other than that game.

oldbooniehog

Quote from: Brass Knob on December 22, 2007, 05:12:29 pm
i am only 20 so i havent i do not know to much about our history


Actually, you could have saved everyone the trouble if you had just stopped after the word "history."

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chiefsfan

Quote from: Hogdomer on December 23, 2007, 12:34:05 pm
When did this happen?  If so, it must have been in the 60s or before.  

We did come back from 20 down to beat ASU in overtime in Nolan's second year, but I can't remember playing them other than that game.

I dont remember ASU beating Arkansas in mens basketball

Now womens is another story
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