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redleg

There have been 17 football seasons in the 21st Century so far (2000-2016). Just for fun, this is my list of best to worst. Feel free to leave your own list.  ;D

1. 2011 - (11-2) Cotton Bowl Champs, #5 final ranking.
2. 2010 - (10-3) Sugar Bowl loss, BCS game appearance, #12 final ranking.
3. 2006 - (10-4) SEC West Champs, Citrus Bowl loss, #16 final ranking.
4. 2003 - (9-4) Independence Bowl Champs.
5. 2002 - (9-5) SEC West Champs, Music City Bowl loss.
6. 2015 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
7. 2009 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
8. 2007 - (8-5) Cotton Bowl loss.
9. 2014 - (7-6) Texas Bowl Champs (beat Texas).
10. 2001 - (7-5) Cotton Bowl loss.
11. 2016 - (7-6) Belk Bowl loss.
12. 2000 - (6-6) Las Vegas Bowl loss.
13. 2004 - (5-6)
14. 2008 - (5-7)
15. 2005 - (4-7)
16. 2012 - (4-8)
17. 2013 - (3-9) zero SEC victories.
:razorback:
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

LZH

Technically, the year 2000 was actually the last year of the 20th century. I love to be difficult.

 

Hogwild

Good list, however I would move the 2007 season up a few spots, we defeated the #1 team in the country and eventually national champion that year, and we made it to the Cotton Bowl. I enjoyed that season much more than 2009 when finished 3-5 in SEC and beat ECU in the Liberty Bowl (heck the Liberty doesn't even remember we played there)


1. 2011 - (11-2) Cotton Bowl Champs, #5 final ranking.
2. 2010 - (10-3) Sugar Bowl loss, BCS game appearance, #12 final ranking.
3. 2006 - (10-4) SEC West Champs, Citrus Bowl loss, #16 final ranking.
4. 2003 - (9-4) Independence Bowl Champs.
5. 2002 - (9-5) SEC West Champs, Music City Bowl loss.
6. 2007 - (8-5) Cotton Bowl loss
7. 2001 - (7-5) Cotton Bowl loss (our 5 losses that year were Bama, Tenner, LSU, UGA, & OU)
8. 2015-  (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
9. 2009 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs. 
10. 2014- (7-6) Texas Bowl Champs
11. 2016 - (7-6) Belk Bowl loss.
12. 2000 - (6-6) Las Vegas Bowl loss.
13. 2004 - (5-6)
14. 2008 - (5-7)
15. 2005 - (4-7)
16. 2012 - (4-8)
17. 2013 - (3-9) zero SEC victories.

EastexHawg

2010 was the best team we've had since the late 70s.  Oh, what might have been.  The 2003 team was loaded with talent, but unfortunately coached by a moron.

hogcard1964


Michael D Huff AIA

Quote from: redleg on January 26, 2017, 02:06:51 pm
There have been 17 football seasons in the 21st Century so far (2000-2016). Just for fun, this is my list of best to worst. Feel free to leave your own list.  ;D

1. 2011 - (11-2) Cotton Bowl Champs, #5 final ranking.
2. 2010 - (10-3) Sugar Bowl loss, BCS game appearance, #12 final ranking.
3. 2006 - (10-4) SEC West Champs, Citrus Bowl loss, #16 final ranking.
4. 2003 - (9-4) Independence Bowl Champs.
5. 2002 - (9-5) SEC West Champs, Music City Bowl loss.
6. 2015 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
7. 2009 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
8. 2007 - (8-5) Cotton Bowl loss.
9. 2014 - (7-6) Texas Bowl Champs (beat Texas).
10. 2001 - (7-5) Cotton Bowl loss.
11. 2016 - (7-6) Belk Bowl loss.
12. 2000 - (6-6) Las Vegas Bowl loss.
13. 2004 - (5-6)
14. 2008 - (5-7)
15. 2005 - (4-7)
16. 2012 - (4-8)
17. 2013 - (3-9) zero SEC victories.
:razorback:

I think this list is helpful in putting this past season into perspective.  When compared to, say, 2004-2005, 2016 doesn't look so bad.  That stretch was pretty brutal, and let's not discuss the awfulness of the '12-'13 stretch where we won as many games in two years as we did this past year.  The optimist in me says, "it has been worse", and this list proves that out. 

Unfortunately given our tough road schedule, I don't see 2017 falling in the top 4 or 5 on this list. 

bob slydell

Quote from: redleg on January 26, 2017, 02:06:51 pm
There have been 17 football seasons in the 21st Century so far (2000-2016). Just for fun, this is my list of best to worst. Feel free to leave your own list.  ;D

1. 2011 - (11-2) Cotton Bowl Champs, #5 final ranking.
2. 2010 - (10-3) Sugar Bowl loss, BCS game appearance, #12 final ranking.
3. 2006 - (10-4) SEC West Champs, Citrus Bowl loss, #16 final ranking.
4. 2003 - (9-4) Independence Bowl Champs.
5. 2002 - (9-5) SEC West Champs, Music City Bowl loss.
6. 2015 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
7. 2009 - (8-5) Liberty Bowl Champs.
8. 2007 - (8-5) Cotton Bowl loss.
9. 2014 - (7-6) Texas Bowl Champs (beat Texas).
10. 2001 - (7-5) Cotton Bowl loss.
11. 2016 - (7-6) Belk Bowl loss.
12. 2000 - (6-6) Las Vegas Bowl loss.
13. 2004 - (5-6)
14. 2008 - (5-7)
15. 2005 - (4-7)
16. 2012 - (4-8)
17. 2013 - (3-9) zero SEC victories.
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Curious as to why you would rank any seasons above SEC West Champs years.  Seems to me that that would be the better measure of success.
*this is not a criticism of moderatin.

redleg

Are you saying that 2002 should be ahead of 2011 and 2010?  ???
:razorback:
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

redleg

Quote from: EastexHawg on January 26, 2017, 04:42:57 pm
2010 was the best team we've had since the late 70s.  Oh, what might have been.  The 2003 team was loaded with talent, but unfortunately coached by a moron.
Um...no. 1985 (10-2), 1988 (10-2) SWC champs...best defense Arkansas has had in the last thirty years, 1989 (10-2) SWC champs, 1998 (9-3) is underrated.
:razorback:
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

DeltaBoy

Quote from: redleg on January 27, 2017, 12:20:16 pm
Um...no. 1985 (10-2), 1988 (10-2) SWC champs...best defense Arkansas has had in the last thirty years, 1989 (10-2) SWC champs, 1998 (9-3) is underrated.
:razorback:

Yep Hatfield had some solid teams.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

EastexHawg

Quote from: redleg on January 27, 2017, 12:20:16 pm
Um...no. 1985 (10-2), 1988 (10-2) SWC champs...best defense Arkansas has had in the last thirty years, 1989 (10-2) SWC champs, 1998 (9-3) is underrated.
:razorback:

I know about and remember those teams and in my opinion the 2010 team was better.  If I'm not mistaken every game we lost was to a team that was ranked or had been ranked #1 that season.  We played both Alabama and Ohio State off their feet before making crucial errors late that cost us the game.  We lost our starting QB early against national champ Auburn but were still in the game in the fourth quarter.

Ryan Mallett was the best passer in program history.  For the last half of the season Knile Davis was as good as any back in our history.  The receiving corps was exceptional.

Both the 2010 and 1988 teams outscored their schedule of opponents by around 13 ppg.  The 2010 team played much, much, much better competition.  The 1998 squad only played three good teams and lost to all three.

bob slydell

Quote from: redleg on January 27, 2017, 12:18:21 pm
Are you saying that 2002 should be ahead of 2011 and 2010?  ???
:razorback:

Yes. I think that finishing 1st in the SEC West is better than finishing 2nd or 3rd.
*this is not a criticism of moderatin.

Pork Twain

Quote from: LZH on January 26, 2017, 04:25:41 pm
Technically, the year 2000 was actually the last year of the 20th century. I love to be difficult.
When one is good at something they should continue to hone their skills.
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sweetmemes/

 

hoggusamoungus

Quote from: Bob Slydell on January 27, 2017, 01:15:51 pm
Yes. I think that finishing 1st in the SEC West is better than finishing 2nd or 3rd.

The 2010 team would have won the SEC West in 2002 and the 2002 team would have finished 4th behind AU, Bama and LSU in 2010.   

Pork Twain

Quote from: hoggusamoungus on January 27, 2017, 01:30:13 pm
The 2010 team would have won the SEC West in 2002 and the 2002 team would have finished 4th behind AU, Bama and LSU in 2010.   
Winning the SEC West is a pretty big deal, BUT they only won it that year because Bama could not due to NCAA sanctions, so there has to be an asterisk there.
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sweetmemes/

hoggusamoungus

Quote from: Pork Twain on January 27, 2017, 01:35:17 pm
Easy to say, impossible to prove.

Just an opinion, my man.  The 2002 couldn't have stopped CammyCam (no one did) and didn't have to face a Saban coached Bama team.

Pork Twain

Quote from: hoggusamoungus on January 27, 2017, 01:41:54 pm
Just an opinion, my man.  The 2002 couldn't have stopped CammyCam (no one did) and didn't have to face a Saban coached Bama team.
I edited that after I looked at those two seasons but you had already hit the quote button.  After refreshing my memory, I think it is a lot easier to say that and reasonably accept that to be true.
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sweetmemes/

DeltaBoy

If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

bob slydell

Quote from: hoggusamoungus on January 27, 2017, 01:41:54 pm
Just an opinion, my man.  The 2002 couldn't have stopped CammyCam (no one did) and didn't have to face a Saban coached Bama team.

They did face a Saban coached LSU team however. 
*this is not a criticism of moderatin.

hoggusamoungus

Quote from: Bob Slydell on January 27, 2017, 02:26:31 pm
They did face a Saban coached LSU team however.

I was there and don't think the best team won.  LSU dominated for three quarters but let Talley break a long TD run and the secondary went brain dead on the long pass to Smith that set up the M on M.


ChicoHog

Are you ranking their success based on wins/losses/final standings or rankings or based on team ability?

I agree with EastTex that 2010 was the best team and I think better than 2011 team that got killed by Bama and LSU and played a good but not great K-state team in Bowl game.  Compared to 2010 team that barely lost to Bama, could have won at Auburn but played no D and had some bad breaks and lost to a very good OSU team in the Sugar Bowl.  The 2006 team won a lot with smoke and mirrors and competition was not great.  2003 team should have had much better record.  Lost 3 in a row in October-2 at home to Auburn and UF in a game which we made an unbelievable comeback but fell just short thanks to Tony Bua's late hit on the UF QB.  2007 was another under achieving year. 

redleg

Quote from: EastexHawg on January 27, 2017, 12:36:53 pm
I know about and remember those teams and in my opinion the 2010 team was better.  If I'm not mistaken every game we lost was to a team that was ranked or had been ranked #1 that season.  We played both Alabama and Ohio State off their feet before making crucial errors late that cost us the game.  We lost our starting QB early against national champ Auburn but were still in the game in the fourth quarter.

Ryan Mallett was the best passer in program history.  For the last half of the season Knile Davis was as good as any back in our history.  The receiving corps was exceptional.

Both the 2010 and 1988 teams outscored their schedule of opponents by around 13 ppg.  The 2010 team played much, much, much better competition.  The 1998 squad only played three good teams and lost to all three.
1988 - 2 losses were at Miami and a Troy Aikman-led UCLA, won first ten games, SWC Champs, one of the greatest defenses in school history and was ranked in the top ten nationally in multiple categories (Steve Atwater, Wayne Martin, Kerry Owens, LaSalle Harper, Richard Brothers, Michael Shepherd, Patrick Williams, Anthony Cooney), top ten rushing offense nationally with three backs rushing for 600-800+ yards each, kicker Kendall Trainer was first team All-American and hit 26 or 27 in a row.
The 2010 team was very good, but 1988 is the second best team in my lifetime. 1977 was the best.

In my life, 1971 to now, I think that the top five teams are 1. 1977 2. 1988 3. 1979 4. 2010 5. 1989
:razorback:
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

GS99

Quote from: ChicoHog on January 27, 2017, 09:25:47 pm

I agree with EastTex that 2010 was the best team and I think better than 2011 team that got killed by Bama and LSU and played a good but not great K-state team in Bowl game.   

That 2011 team also benefited from some magic. Big second-half comebacks against A&M and Ole Miss are the type of things that good teams do, but the Vanderbilt game was over and lost until a lucky fumble.

 

ChicoHog

Quote from: redleg on February 01, 2017, 08:53:56 am
1988 - 2 losses were at Miami and a Troy Aikman-led UCLA, won first ten games, SWC Champs, one of the greatest defenses in school history and was ranked in the top ten nationally in multiple categories (Steve Atwater, Wayne Martin, Kerry Owens, LaSalle Harper, Richard Brothers, Michael Shepherd, Patrick Williams, Anthony Cooney), top ten rushing offense nationally with three backs rushing for 600-800+ yards each, kicker Kendall Trainer was first team All-American and hit 26 or 27 in a row.
The 2010 team was very good, but 1988 is the second best team in my lifetime. 1977 was the best.

In my life, 1971 to now, I think that the top five teams are 1. 1977 2. 1988 3. 1979 4. 2010 5. 1989
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The 88 and 89 teams benefitted from a weak SWC.  I think the 79 and 82 teams were better than the those two teams.  We were good in 82, got upset at TCU, tied #2 SMU which demoralized us since they clinched the SWC with that tie and then we laid an egg at Texas in the last game of the season.  We finished by beating a pretty decent UF team in the Bluebonnet Bowl. 

redleg

Quote from: ChicoHog on February 01, 2017, 10:20:56 pm
The 88 and 89 teams benefitted from a weak SWC.  I think the 79 and 82 teams were better than the those two teams.  We were good in 82, got upset at TCU, tied #2 SMU which demoralized us since they clinched the SWC with that tie and then we laid an egg at Texas in the last game of the season.  We finished by beating a pretty decent UF team in the Bluebonnet Bowl.
No way the "82 team was better than "88 or "89. "88 lost to two Top 10 teams..."82 lost to a weak TCU squad. That does not bode well for them in any team rankings. Plus, the 1988 defense would have beaten the 1982 offense into submission.
The 2011 team would be #6.
:razorback:
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.