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May 10, 2024, 04:48:05 am

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Ask Mike Irwin / Re: Questions for 5-13
Last post by Hogdogger - Today at 03:16:39 am
Cal did an interview in which he said he might keep his roster to 8 or 9 players. It makes sense to me because it would hold the nil dollars down to focus on the most quality players. But it would also allow him to focus and hone a players talents to prepare him for the nba. I think that is a recruiting tool as well. But my fear is what happens when one or even two players go out on injury. What say you mr irwin
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Jump Ball / Re: How many schollies do we g...
Last post by ChitownHawg - Today at 02:26:04 am
Quote from: Deep Shoat on Yesterday at 11:52:32 pmBut they think they are, and will transfer out to prove it.

That is what Cal and many other coaches have said.
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: Tyrell Reed
Last post by ChitownHawg - Today at 02:22:28 am
Quote from: cjack on Yesterday at 04:08:39 pmEmmitt Smith was 5'9 215
Barry Sanders was 5'8 205

If this kid is close to his reported size, he's just fine for a running back.

Michael Smith fit those stats and he barely made it out of college alive. The one thing the above two had over MS was their ability to not let the defender get a solid hit on them. Emmitt was very good at this.

Let's hope TR has this ability.
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Jump Ball / Re: Cal reportedly hiring form...
Last post by Iwastherein1969 - Today at 02:12:49 am
The hiring of UK personnel/players this far down the chain of command is somewhat disconcerting. Thus far everything Coach Cal has done has been impeccable but now maybe some former Hogs should fill these types of positions.
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: Tyrell Reed
Last post by bennyl08 - Today at 01:24:29 am
Quote from: cjack on Yesterday at 04:08:39 pmEmmitt Smith was 5'9 215
Barry Sanders was 5'8 205

If this kid is close to his reported size, he's just fine for a running back.

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Dennis&l=Johnson&i=28888

Dennis Johnson was shy of 5'7 and sub 200 pounds.

Again, not impossible to be successful, but the further you are away from ideal size, the more obstacles you face and the harder it is to be successful.

Also, as for Dennis Johnson being under-utilized, he often struggled to finish games health wise. That and the fumbles are a big reason he didn't play more.
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: Who did Drink bribe?
Last post by bennyl08 - Today at 01:17:36 am
Quote from: TheGrove68 on Today at 12:06:11 am...

I think we've beaten a lot of the arguments to death, but there's one thing you mentioned that I think is worth expanding on. The 'other' players.

You claim that's the secret of Mizzou. And here's where I think the conversation gets interesting. You don't want to compare the physical prowess of the players, which is where the pro day comes into play. Who's fasters, who's stronger, who's quicker/more agile, etc... Instead, you want to focus on production.

Production is a side effect though. It's a dependent variable. In general, what it depends on in athletic ability, coaching, and the mental/grit x-factor that you discount but then seem to make that the root of your argument here (correct me if I read that wrong). But, I think you've been neglecting a significant factor here (one that I'd argue is about 50% of how a game plays out) and that's coaching.

Me, I don't think there's a single reason. Some years, Mizzou has been the better team and if we played 10 times, they'd probably win all 10 times that season. Some years, we are the better team at 21/22 positions, but are injured at that 22nd position and mizzou being better at that one position creates a chain reaction that ends with us losing a close game. Some years, our players are bigger/faster/stronger but our coaching was vastly inferior to yours, and with coaching being 50% of the game, it can close a talent gap (a decent factor in why we've been able to play LSU so close as well is often superior coaching on our end). Another significant factor is just how the puzzle pieces come together. We were what, 3-1 against Freeze at Ole Miss? Most would argue that OM had better coaching and talent than us in that time. Sometimes, you just happen to have the right combinations of strengths and weaknesses that just so happen to be able to penetrate the armor of the team that's better than you. Mizzou, to their credit, always seems to have disruptive DE's. Their DL is almost always undersized, and teams with more speed could do better, but our blockings schemes, and our massive OL often would just get vexed with your DE's. Like, our OL would perform better against Bama and a whole host of DL's that were objectively better than mizzou's and would objectively perform worse against Mizzou's DL. Does missouri have better coaching than Bama or better players? No. Just that sometimes, that one player (or position group) just has a particular skill set that hits all your weak points.

Lastly, there is one other thing I wanted to go over on a different topic. I'll admit I slightly mispoke with the 'best' game. In my head, it was more, among the best. We often play among our best against LSU. Plenty of times you could argue we actually played a better game against Bama or someone else. Just that consistently, we play among our best against them, and same for you guys against us.

2023: 48 points. You didn't score over 40 against any other team, including your FCS opponent. Your defense held us to 14 points. Mid Tenn st, memphis, KSU, even Vandy scored more points than that against your defense.
2022: Also your highest point total vs SEC.
2021: Not your best.
2020: You put up 50 points, again your highest total. While you gave up a lot of points, that was fairly on par for your defense that season, giving up 35+ in half your games.
2019: You put up almost as many points as your previous 3 games combined. You also held us to 14 points, arguably your best defensive performance of the season. You lost to Wyoming and gave up 37 points to them.
2018: Offensively, you called off the dogs and 'only' won 38-0. Defensively, you shut us out. You gave up 37 points to Purdue.
2017: No real argument for you performing above par this year.
2016: Same for 2016.
2015: Rough year for yall.
2014: Again, not your best performance, our injuries as I described before were the major story in that game.
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Jump Ball / Re: May answer some of your sc...
Last post by RazorNick - Today at 01:10:09 am
Quote from: popcornhog on Yesterday at 07:48:27 pmI don't hate it.

But I still don't understand why you wouldn't use the last 3-4 scholarships on sub par guys that you think could develop. Especially since one or two injuries would ruin your season with a 9 man roster.
Because so many players leave every year, he said (I agree) that it makes no sense developing a guy that's on the bench just to benefit another program. Who knows, maybe even for an in conference team. Add to that NIL, and you also don't waste nugget money
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Quote from: hawg1221 on Yesterday at 02:41:39 pmThere were strong winds at our regional for the 3rd round. I believe all teams struggled.
30 mph cross winds
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Quote from: j-mann on May 08, 2024, 12:05:18 pmand i would be happy to support them  when they play anyone but the razorbacks  but  on their 24/7 stie   50% of them make u feel unwelcome call u names etc act like 10 year old    they are some good ones   but few and far between 

If you are going to be on the ASU site it would be best to stay out of ASU vs UA threads.   Revealing your preference for all things UA will make you be mistaken for a troll.   There are plenty of hit and run UA trolls that come to the board and the regulars on there are going to have nothing to do with you and will send you on your way with unpleasant interactions if they identify you as one of these trolls.   If you really want to be a participant  on board talk I would stick to only ASU threads.



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Quote from: Salty spork on May 07, 2024, 08:35:16 amYeah, that's not many. Assuming some redshirting, it means roughly 300 freshmen per year, get paid to swim in college. My kid has a chance to be pretty good, but not top 300 good.
Quote from: hogsanity on May 07, 2024, 05:47:19 pmWhich is why football has to split off. Schools like astate, if forced to play a sec type schedule would never come close to being anything.

Bowling, track, archery, sure they can win multiple titles which will bring in close to no revenue, probably lose $, for the program.

ASU can't play an SEC schedule on Sunbelt money.   Even Alabama couldn't play P5 ball on such a small incoming money stream.
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