New practice/student center paying off.

[bythelake]

Seems like recruiting has improved since the completion of practice facility+.  Also is Scotty making a difference. Not connected enough to know.   ?

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Our number of top 100 players that have visited over the last 2 seasons has increased by a significant amount.

Certainly isn't hurting

[lefty08]

Relationships take time to develop as well

[HogBreath]

Relationships take time to develop as well

Exactly..apparently somewhere in the ballpark of 6 years or so.

[ShadowHawg]

I have read where it takes around 4 years or so. I know there are exceptions but that is the supposed average according to some

[FineAsSwine]

Exactly..apparently somewhere in the ballpark of 6 years or so.

So.... you don't like the way recruiting is going now?

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

So.... you don't like the way recruiting is going now?

He hasn't enjoyed anything since 1994

[nwahogfan1]

Seems like recruiting has improved since the completion of practice facility+.  Also is Scotty making a difference. Not connected enough to know.   ?

I am not sure what is the deciding factor in recruiting this year.  I think the biggest key so far is these kids are all Arkansas kids.  Also we got some luck in Memphis changing coaches.  Remember Garland was commited to Memphis until the coaching change. 

I hope Scotty is making a big difference but I just do not know because kids are not mentioning him so far as the reason they are climbing on board.  It would be nice if it is because of our facilities and changes we have made in our recruiting strategy.  I just don't know. 

[swinesation]

I hate to be negative, but it seems to me that Mike & staff starting feeling a little warmth in their britches and really turned it up a notch. I'm not complaining, because stepping up when the pressure is on is a good sign!

[hogwood]

Exactly..apparently somewhere in the ballpark of 6 years or so.

I guessed when Mike was hired that this would be a 6-7 year process. Seems I might end up being right. If all the haters got their way this summer than our future would once again be very bleak. Mike is obviously building something, and building takes time. Mike is dedicated and will never leave us and he will help our program tremendously.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

I am not sure what is the deciding factor in recruiting this year.  I think the biggest key so far is these kids are all Arkansas kids.  Also we got some luck in Memphis changing coaches.  Remember Garland was commited to Memphis until the coaching change. 

I hope Scotty is making a big difference but I just do not know because kids are not mentioning him so far as the reason they are climbing on board.  It would be nice if it is because of our facilities and changes we have made in our recruiting strategy.  I just don't know. 

We know you will have questions Until we get a commit from a 6-8 240lbs player

[farmhawg]

We know you will have questions Until we get a commit from a 6-8 240lbs player

He will always have issues with Mike here......he is just too weak to come out and say it.

[HognitiveDissonance]

I am not sure what is the deciding factor in recruiting this year.  I think the biggest key so far is these kids are all Arkansas kids.  Also we got some luck in Memphis changing coaches.  Remember Garland was commited to Memphis until the coaching change. 

I hope Scotty is making a big difference but I just do not know because kids are not mentioning him so far as the reason they are climbing on board.  It would be nice if it is because of our facilities and changes we have made in our recruiting strategy.  I just don't know.

Yes, as customary, the truth lies in the middle.
Garland was committed elsewhere until Pastner left Memphis, so the recruiting critics are partially correct.
On the other hand, he still landed at UA as his final choice despite many great offers; he could have done a Kevaughn Allen and re-opened recruitment only to again spurn Arkansas. So, the glass half-full people can also praise the job the staff did in landing Mr. Garland.
It's a little of both.

[FineAsSwine]

Whitt left and it opened a significant opportunity for Khalil to step in and be the guy we thought Whitt would be. Glad Khalil accepted the challenge.

[The_Iceman]

Whitt left and it opened a significant opportunity for Khalil to step in and be the guy we thought Whitt would be. Glad Khalil accepted the challenge.

Garland appears to be a lot more put together from a basketball standpoint than Whitt. Taller, stronger build, and a better ball skills.

[HogBreath]

I guessed when Mike was hired that this would be a 6-7 year process. Seems I might end up being right. If all the haters got their way this summer than our future would once again be very bleak. Mike is obviously building something, and building takes time. Mike is dedicated and will never leave us and he will help our program tremendously.

Major kudos on being right about it taking time.  You certainly were correct about that.  Also really glad to hear Mike is building something.

[HoopS]

Major kudos on being right about it taking time.  You certainly were correct about that.  Also really glad to hear Mike is building something.

depends if we want to count the 27 win season as being something that was built. I mean to me, that counts.

Sustaining that is the key though. Hoping this team is similar to that one and then we follow that up and improve a little more.

So what some right now don't see as something being built, if we flash forward a few years, we may well look back to this that 27 win season as being the one that really started the momentum, followed by a fall when we lost too many key cogs, but then right back to that level and then sustained.

I maybe didn't word that well. Just saying that it is very well possible that when his career is over and you look back on records, year 3 may well be the one pointed to as where things started to look like we had hoped they would when we hired him.

[HogBreath]

depends if we want to count the 27 win season as being something that was built. I mean to me, that counts.

Sustaining that is the key though. Hoping this team is similar to that one and then we follow that up and improve a little more.

So what some right now don't see as something being built, if we flash forward a few years, we may well look back to this that 27 win season as being the one that really started the momentum, followed by a fall when we lost too many key cogs, but then right back to that level and then sustained.

I maybe didn't word that well. Just saying that it is very well possible that when his career is over and you look back on records, year 3 may well be the one pointed to as where things started to look like we had hoped they would when we hired him.

Right now the 27 win season is certainly the outlier for Coach Mike, but I do suppose it is possible that going forward, they may all become 27 win seasons or even better.

[FineAsSwine]

Right now the 27 win season is certainly the outlier for Coach Mike, but I do suppose it is possible that going forward, they may all become 27 win seasons or even better.

I have a persistent suspicion that you hope not.

[farmhawg]

Mike cleaned up a huge pile of garbage, great guy, clean program that will produce. He is not a guy you hope will fail.

[HoopS]

Right now the 27 win season is certainly the outlier for Coach Mike, but I do suppose it is possible that going forward, they may all become 27 win seasons or even better.

I didn't say that.

No sense in taking anymore time with this.

[HogBreath]

we may well look back to this that 27 win season as being the one that really started the momentum, followed by a fall when we lost too many key cogs, but then right back to that level and then sustained.

You sure you didn't say that?

[HoopS]

You sure you didn't say that?

back to that level means having similar seasons. Not exactly the same. Nobody knows exactly how this all plays out. And I said we "we may".

[HogBreath]

back to that level means having similar seasons. Not exactly the same. Nobody knows exactly how this all plays out. And I said we "we may".

Yeah..it'd be real hard for the seasons to be "exactly the same".  smh

[HoopS]

Yeah..it'd be real hard for the seasons to be "exactly the same".  smh

now you know how I feel.

[HoopS]

Getting back to that level is a broad term. It means similar seasons. Similarities in success as in how we competed in the SEC and OOC, the fact that we made the ncaat and advanced, being a team that may well be ranked at times in the season, and pile up a nice win total. "A nice win total" is also broad and based on various factors including ooc schedule, conference strength and then the draw we get in the tournament.

I'm sure there's something there you can nitpick at.

I could have nitpicked your use of "outlier". You see the high win total as the outlier, when others may well see the only non .500+ season as the outlier. They would probably argue that while plugging the numbers of wins on a graph, 27 wins was a continuation of the upward movement of wins. It would be a sharper angle up, to be sure, but the win total that really jumps out was the drastic drop from 27 wins to 16. A jump from 22 wins to 27 isn't huge and shouldn't be considered an outlier. A drop from 27 to 16, on the other hand, is drastic. But who cares about that.

[HogBreath]

Getting back to that level is a broad term. It means similar seasons. Similarities in success as in how we competed in the SEC and OOC, the fact that we made the ncaat and advanced, being a team that may well be ranked at times in the season, and pile up a nice win total. "A nice win total" is also broad and based on various factors including ooc schedule, conference strength and then the draw we get in the tournament.

I'm sure there's something there you can nitpick at.

I could have nitpicked your use of "outlier". You see the high win total as the outlier, when others may well see the only non .500+ season as the outlier. They would probably argue that while plugging the numbers of wins on a graph, 27 wins was a continuation of the upward movement of wins. It would be a sharper angle up, to be sure, but the win total that really jumps out was the drastic drop from 27 wins to 16. A jump from 22 wins to 27 isn't huge and shouldn't be considered an outlier. A drop from 27 to 16, on the other hand, is drastic. But who cares about that.

I would think for most reasonable/semi-rational human beings, the big difference between the 27 win season and CMA's other teams, is that team made the NCAA tourney....that would be the very blatantly obvious "outlier".  smh

[HoopS]

Cool story

[HogBreath]

Getting back to that level is a broad term. It means similar seasons.

A drop from 27 to 16, on the other hand, is drastic. But who cares about that.

Oh, okay, see what you mean about the similar seasons, the 16-16 season was a lot like year 1 when we went 18-14, or even year 2 and the 19-13 record.  Real good call there.  Certainly years 1,2 & 5 were not outliers, heck's, that 60% of the time.

[HoopS]

Oh, okay, see what you mean about the similar seasons, the 16-16 season was a lot like year 1 when we went 18-14, or even year 2 and the 19-13 record.  Real good call there.  Certainly years 1,2 & 5 were not outliers, heck's, that 60% of the time.

how weird.

You win.

[HogBreath]

how weird.

You win.

Cool story, but who cares about that?

[HoopS]

Cool story, but who cares about that?

you.

[HogBreath]

you.

Another great call..you're really on a roll for a change.

[ShadowHawg]

The best part of the Hogs winning will be all the negative folks start staying away instead of joining in the fun.