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Title: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on June 07, 2017, 11:57:56 pm
I figure we should have one of these threads, I didnt scroll so if there is one already, my sincerest apologies.

Anybody hearing the rumors that Danica will be replaced by Kahne in the 10 next year. I've seen it in a couple of different places in the last few days. Dont ask for links because I am heavily medicated and to be honest, didnt pay much attention where I was reading it. My bad.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on June 08, 2017, 06:34:02 am
http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/19531408/patrick-future-shr-uncertain-2017-season

She's signed thru 2018 but clauses that could make it end at 2017.  With anybody else in the car, it still comes down to sponsorship I would guess.  And at one time there was rumor that Kahne was on hot seat at HMS.  With the 88 having someone new, I wonder what they think about keeping Kahne now.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on June 08, 2017, 07:13:29 am
If I was Kahne I would be looking to get out of that ride to, nobody has been competitive in that ride.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on June 08, 2017, 11:08:30 am
If I was Kahne I would be looking to get out of that ride to, nobody has been competitive in that ride.
I think having a 4 car team is hard.  Especially hard having all 4 run consistent week in and week out.  Gibbs seems to do the best with this.  With HMS, the 48 gets top billing.  Martin found out what it was like after the first year.  They pulled most of his members over to the 88 to no avail. I think that 5 car just gets the leftovers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on June 08, 2017, 11:16:01 am
Saw another article which makes sense.  Looks like HMS maybe moving to a 3 car team because of sponsor issues. That could be why Kahne is rumored for a new ride.   
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on June 08, 2017, 11:22:12 am
Can't see Kahne in a Ford ever after the lawsuits between them over him leaving Ford form Everham.  I asked Kasey at the 2006 Pepsi 400in Daytona why he left Ford. He said they didn't want to give me a chance and Everham did.  He was in our suite I figured I would ask him an actual question rather than the crap some of the people asked him.

Kasey may be out of the 5 because he has lost the majority of his sponsorship for next year.   Same with Danica. If you are going to be running a team out of your pocket (hello 41 team) you better be in the chase and getting wins.  Don't forget Roush is going back to 3 cars next year or they lose their charter for the 16.

I still think Carl comes back in some form. Maybe car owner/driver if Jack decides to step away at some point.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on June 09, 2017, 08:48:59 pm
Just read Blaney to Penske?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on June 09, 2017, 10:12:17 pm
Just read Blaney to Penske?

He's been with them for 4 or 5 years in Xfinity. Wood Bros 21 car has technical alliance with Penske.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on June 10, 2017, 08:50:19 pm
I was thinking to myself the other day, I dont know how much money Danica brings in, obviously not as much as in previous years considering she doesnt have a primary sponsor. You know Aspen Dental isnt a golden goose. Anyway, it would have to be a bunch of money considering how many cars she tears up. Think about it, there is hardly ever a race that she doesnt total a car. Food for thought, me thinks...
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on July 08, 2017, 07:31:23 am
Where will Matt Kenseth be racing next year? I think it's sad that JGR hasn't said a word about.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on July 08, 2017, 08:17:41 am
Where will Matt Kenseth be racing next year? I think it's sad that JGR hasn't said a word about.

I think it is hilarious JGR is doing to Matt the same thing Matt did to Roush when he left there. Matt never said a word to Jack and signed with JGR without ever negotiating a new contract with Roush. So screw him. I hope he ends up without a ride.  He is as washed up as JR anyways.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: tophawg19 on July 08, 2017, 09:30:17 am
I think Nascar will keep Danica in a car as part of their diversity program . As well as moving a few others up
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on July 08, 2017, 09:57:18 am
Watching the show on NBCSN NASCAR The Decades and while I'm glad they raised the splitter a little in 2017 I really wish they would go back to what it used to be way back then and raise the splitters more or even removing them. Make those drivers have to use their talent more and make the racing fun to watch again. Anyone see any articles of late talking about lowering downforce for 2018 ?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on July 26, 2017, 12:09:40 pm
Blaney moving to Penske in 2018 as Penske moves to 3 car team.  Kez re-upd with Penske.

Menard moving to the #21 Wood Bro in 2018
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on July 26, 2017, 01:02:33 pm
Blaney moving to Penske in 2018 as Penske moves to 3 car team.  Kez re-upd with Penske.

Menard moving to the #21 Wood Bro in 2018

Menard trying to race for every origination in NASCAR before he retires?

So the 21 leased a charter from the 32 team and then leased a charter from the 44 team. If RPM isn't going back to 2 teams they have to lease the 44 charter.  So both the 21 and the 12 team need a charter for next year. Roush has one to give as he can lease the 6 or the 17 but not the 16 that they leased to JTR and the 37 this year.  Or did Menard have the rights to the charter at RCR?   Damn this gets complicated.  Regardless lots of off season bargaining to keep and attain charters will be happening.

Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on July 26, 2017, 01:14:25 pm
I think Penske has kept the 2, 12, 22
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on July 26, 2017, 06:17:30 pm
Blaney and Larson are my new guys. Hate to see Blaney move over, I really think he would be better served in the 21. Its gonna be strange seeing the Wood Brothers car in highlighter yellow.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on July 26, 2017, 07:09:39 pm
Menard trying to race for every origination in NASCAR before he retires?

So the 21 leased a charter from the 32 team and then leased a charter from the 44 team. If RPM isn't going back to 2 teams they have to lease the 44 charter.  So both the 21 and the 12 team need a charter for next year. Roush has one to give as he can lease the 6 or the 17 but not the 16 that they leased to JTR and the 37 this year.  Or did Menard have the rights to the charter at RCR?   Damn this gets complicated.  Regardless lots of off season bargaining to keep and attain charters will be happening.


My head hurts after reading that.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on July 26, 2017, 07:11:47 pm
Menard trying to race for every origination in NASCAR before he retires?



When Daddy has a big check book you can go anywhere you want.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on July 27, 2017, 12:47:02 am
Blaney and Larson are my new guys. Hate to see Blaney move over, I really think he would be better served in the 21. Its gonna be strange seeing the Wood Brothers car in highlighter yellow.

Oh I think he will be on the level of Kes and Logano at Penske. I still have not warmed up to his personality. I do like the way he drives and I really like Brad and Joey.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on July 27, 2017, 06:56:57 am
Probably a win.  Blaney gets a better ride and Menard brings more cash flow into Woods.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on July 27, 2017, 07:20:34 pm
I hope Blaney gets the Wood Bros their 100th before he leaves.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on July 29, 2017, 06:29:24 am
Who will replace Target on Larson's car?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: MWR334 on July 29, 2017, 01:10:42 pm
Who will replace Target on Larson's car?

Amazon.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 01, 2017, 12:31:20 pm
Kurt Busch will not return to SHR in 2018.  Stewart Haas not picking up 2018 option.

My bet is they scrap that car and move sponsors to the #10.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 01, 2017, 04:56:14 pm
Kurt Busch will not return to SHR in 2018.  Stewart Haas not picking up 2018 option.

My bet is they scrap that car and move sponsors to the #10.

NASCAR dying a slow death.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 01, 2017, 05:19:37 pm
Kurt Busch will not return to SHR in 2018.  Stewart Haas not picking up 2018 option.

My bet is they scrap that car and move sponsors to the #10.
Wow, didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 01, 2017, 05:36:14 pm
Not so fast

https://twitter.com/StewartHaasRcng/status/892424884449685504
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Buff on August 01, 2017, 06:16:13 pm
If they want to win they'll scrap Danica.  #Obvious
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 07, 2017, 10:37:47 am
The #5 is now free at HMS.This silly season will be a good one
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 07, 2017, 05:59:37 pm
Kahne to 41, KB to 77
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 07, 2017, 06:36:30 pm
The #5 is now free at HMS.This silly season will be a good one
I think everybody knows who is gonna be in this car.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 07, 2017, 06:36:58 pm
I wonder what happened. KB was Haas boy a few years ago.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 07, 2017, 07:30:53 pm
I wonder what happened. KB was Haas boy a few years ago.
Makes you wonder, he was their poster child!
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 08, 2017, 07:05:54 am
Byron to the #5.  Hendrick can put whomever in there, but until all 4 cars get the same shake they are gonna be mid pack runners.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 08, 2017, 08:39:50 am
Makes you wonder, he was their poster child!

They talked about it before the race Sunday. Haas wants Kurt in the car they opted out of the contract hoping to get him resigned cheaper.  Kurt went public with it not giving them the opportunity to keep it in house. Not sure where he is going tog et a better ride at his age there seems to be a serious youth movement.  Problem is xfinity series is going belly up. If they keep limiting Cup drivers to fewer races it is going to 30 non competitive cars and then basically JR, JGR and RCR left running competitive teams. 

The kid that won last week had enough money to run 2 races for JGR.  He is making money he is paying to race not many families can do that.  So where are future cup drivers going to come from when the feeder series are all done.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 08, 2017, 07:20:35 pm
If you bring money, you can race.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 08, 2017, 08:31:55 pm
Id be surprised if Kurt went anywhere. Im sure that SHR doesnt want Monster going with him if he leaves. Also, it was a foregone conclusion that Byron would be in the 5 next year.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: East TN HAWG on August 08, 2017, 09:16:57 pm
NASCAR dying a slow death.
I dont know about all tracks, but Bristol is dead.  Looks like less than half the track is sold out lately.  10 years ago you could not buy a ticker.  Kind of sad.
 that's what happens when u keep raising the price of tickets.  Average family cannot afford to go now.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 09, 2017, 07:04:37 am
I dont know about all tracks, but Bristol is dead.  Looks like less than half the track is sold out lately.  10 years ago you could not buy a ticker.  Kind of sad.
 that's what happens when u keep raising the price of tickets.  Average family cannot afford to go now.

They need more road courses. Watkins glen sold out. They should be racing Mid Ohio this weekend with Xfinity series.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 09, 2017, 09:21:16 am
Would love to see Matt K in the 88 next year. HMS needs to have some experienced drivers. Kind of surprised Elliot has yet to win a race in the 24.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 09, 2017, 09:23:05 am
I dont know about all tracks, but Bristol is dead.  Looks like less than half the track is sold out lately.  10 years ago you could not buy a ticker.  Kind of sad.
 that's what happens when u keep raising the price of tickets.  Average family cannot afford to go now.

The 2007 repave is what destroyed attendance at Bristol. Used to be a lot of trading paint on the track before the repave. They need to do another repave and put it back the way it was.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 09, 2017, 07:33:31 pm
Brian France is the problem with NASCAR. HE wont leave well enough alone.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 09, 2017, 08:00:36 pm
https://twitter.com/GMSRacingLLC/status/895404397957656577

I bet Kasey will be their driver in the Cup series
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 09, 2017, 09:30:52 pm
Ryan Blaney has a great podcast. Its called Glass case of Emotion. Last night they were discussing how badass kangaroos would be if they had full sized arms. Some funny stuff every week.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 10, 2017, 05:20:15 am
Ryan Blaney has a great podcast. Its called Glass case of Emotion. Last night they were discussing how badass kangaroos would be if they had full sized arms. Some funny stuff every week.

Never thought about it but that is funny ****

I for one hope Matt doesn't get a ride.   
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 10, 2017, 06:54:26 am
Never thought about it but that is funny ****

I for one hope Matt doesn't get a ride.   
I like Matt, but with every other JGR team and their side teams tearing it up it, it's probably time to retire or stop looking for a prime seat.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 10, 2017, 09:12:29 am
I like Matt, but with every other JGR team and their side teams tearing it up it, it's probably time to retire or stop looking for a prime seat.

The 18 has 1 win and 8 top 5's
The 11 has 1 win and 8 top 5's
The 19 has 0 wins and 1 top 5

Matt has 0 wins and 6 top 5's. So he's not doing any worse than the rest of the team and you have to think JGR has known all season he wasn't going to be resigned so he likely is getting less help from the organization than all other teams.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 10, 2017, 10:37:29 am
If they can't find a sponsor for the 77, FRM will be back to a one car team. Sorry don't have a link.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 10, 2017, 08:02:40 pm
https://twitter.com/GMSRacingLLC/status/895404397957656577

I bet Kasey will be their driver in the Cup series

So the big announcement was just announcing a stupid throwback scheme for Waltrip. Jeesh !!!

I don't know about you guys but the paint scheme's on cars has never given me a woody like it does some folks
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 10, 2017, 08:15:11 pm
am I the only one who didnt know that Chevy would be fielding Camaros in the Cup series next year?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 10, 2017, 08:16:07 pm
am I the only one who didnt know that Chevy would be fielding Camaros in the Cup series next year?

They look sweet
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 10, 2017, 09:00:40 pm
you didnt answer my question. Did you know?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 10, 2017, 09:10:28 pm


I don't know about you guys but the paint scheme's on cars has never given me a woody like it does some folks

I did the first year, but it's ran it's course now.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 11, 2017, 07:38:53 am
nm,
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 12, 2017, 05:31:59 am
If they can't find a sponsor for the 77, FRM will be back to a one car team. Sorry don't have a link.

I think you mean FRR.  FRM is Front Row.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 12, 2017, 06:56:46 am
I think you mean FRR.  FRM is Front Row.
Sorry, go by what I mean not what I type. :)
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 22, 2017, 07:25:05 am
Kenseth sees the that he won't have a ride next year. The same article mentioned the driver salaries for the young drivers being a fraction of guys like Kenseth, JR, Edwards were pulling in.  Montoya said he was offered some lower level rides after leaving Ganassi but the travel cost would have meant he was losing money for the year.

NASCAR is dying a slow death I do believe.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 22, 2017, 08:00:45 am
Kenseth sees the that he won't have a ride next year. The same article mentioned the driver salaries for the young drivers being a fraction of guys like Kenseth, JR, Edwards were pulling in.  Montoya said he was offered some lower level rides after leaving Ganassi but the travel cost would have meant he was losing money for the year.

NASCAR is dying a slow death I do believe.

They need to shorten the season back to at least 32 races , go back to some of the old short tracks and lose some of the mile and a half and two milers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 22, 2017, 11:04:58 am
you didnt answer my question. Did you know?
Seems like there was mention when Busch went to the actual bodies that Cup was to follow but several years later.  So far for 2018 just Toyota and Chevy.  Looks like Ford will still run Fusions.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 22, 2017, 03:13:29 pm
Seems like there was mention when Busch went to the actual bodies that Cup was to follow but several years later.  So far for 2018 just Toyota and Chevy.  Looks like Ford will still run Fusions.

Wish they would switch to the mustangs. Any reason they haven't?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 23, 2017, 08:34:34 am
Wish they would switch to the mustangs. Any reason they haven't?
Well, I know when they announced the bodies for Xfinity, the Ford folks didn't do it for Cup because Chevy was not switching to Camaro.  Now that Chevy has switched I guess we wait and see.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 24, 2017, 09:15:38 am
Bubba to RPM?  Maybe replacing Aric maybe in the 44.   Aric should have seen this coming considering Bubba outperformed him big time and had never been in a Cup race before.  Also they may be switching manufacturers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 24, 2017, 09:16:49 am
They need to shorten the season back to at least 32 races , go back to some of the old short tracks and lose some of the mile and a half and two milers.

Do like Indy run 2 races at the same track the same weekend.   or do a one day show with both the Xfinity and Cup cars running.  Something to draw more people.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on August 24, 2017, 08:35:28 pm
most of the drivers Ive seen comment on it only want to visit tracks one time a season. Does Las Vegas really need 2 races? No, the one they have sucks. But, Bruton gets what he wants. The only tracks that I think needs 2 races are Bristol, Daytona, and Talladega. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on August 24, 2017, 08:44:39 pm
most of the drivers Ive seen comment on it only want to visit tracks one time a season. Does Las Vegas really need 2 races? No, the one they have sucks. But, Bruton gets what he wants. The only tracks that I think needs 2 races are Bristol, Daytona, and Talladega. Just my opinion.
I'm not sure Bristol needs two anymore.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on August 25, 2017, 11:27:59 am
most of the drivers Ive seen comment on it only want to visit tracks one time a season. Does Las Vegas really need 2 races? No, the one they have sucks. But, Bruton gets what he wants. The only tracks that I think needs 2 races are Bristol, Daytona, and Talladega. Just my opinion.

Martinsville, Dover and Darlington
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 25, 2017, 12:07:24 pm
The problem is the intermediate tracks have nearly half the races.  They need to take one from there a bring in another road course.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 26, 2017, 08:39:06 am
The problem is the intermediate tracks have nearly half the races.  They need to take one from there a bring in another road course.

Charlotte running the road course aren't they? Daytona needs to run the road course.  Skip New Hampshire Cup should be running Elkhart Lake this week and Mid Ohio also.   
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on August 28, 2017, 07:09:32 am
Charlotte running the road course aren't they? Daytona needs to run the road course.  Skip New Hampshire Cup should be running Elkhart Lake this week and Mid Ohio also.   
Not this year.  They were testing it as a possibility.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on August 30, 2017, 07:01:53 am
Chase Elliot driving the #9 next year. Byron to the #24 and the 5 is history.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on September 12, 2017, 08:52:13 pm
Is Danica's Cup career over and who will be in that ride? The dominos are starting to fall.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on September 13, 2017, 04:42:19 am
Is Danica's Cup career over and who will be in that ride? The dominos are starting to fall.

Unless she can bring another sponsor to the car she is done.  Wonder who Smithfield wants as their driver with SHR next year. I hope it isn't Amariola.  I'd like to see Bubba get a shot in a competitive cup car.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 13, 2017, 08:09:54 am
Unless she can bring another sponsor to the car she is done.  Wonder who Smithfield wants as their driver with SHR next year. I hope it isn't Amariola.  I'd like to see Bubba get a shot in a competitive cup car.

I wish it was Kenseth or Edwards
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on September 13, 2017, 06:04:34 pm
I wish it was Kenseth or Edwards
Kenseth is the one I keep hearing, I'd like to see Kahne.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on September 13, 2017, 09:19:48 pm
Furniture Row has announced that unless sponsorship is found they will be a one car team next year.
Rides are getting scarce.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: 10thPlanet on September 14, 2017, 08:38:25 am
Bubba to RPM?  Maybe replacing Aric maybe in the 44.   Aric should have seen this coming considering Bubba outperformed him big time and had never been in a Cup race before.  Also they may be switching manufacturers.
Aric won't be returning per RPM website. Sponsorship issues as well for the 43.
https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2017/9/12/16295254/richard-petty-motorsports-primary-sponsor-smithfield-foods-stewart-haas-racing-2018
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on September 14, 2017, 09:49:29 am
Aric won't be returning per RPM website. Sponsorship issues as well for the 43.
https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2017/9/12/16295254/richard-petty-motorsports-primary-sponsor-smithfield-foods-stewart-haas-racing-2018

Yup RPM probably won't be around next year.  NASCAR might be running less than 35 cars next year. 

McDowell to FRM is a possibility and then Kahne to Levine Racing.   That car has been competitive this year.

The big domino is what SHR does. Do they keep 4 cars or go to 3?  Kurt isn't getting another ride. I bet he resigns for a lot less with SHR.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 14, 2017, 11:35:02 am
NASCAR doesn't get it. Seems they are trying to lose all the good drivers who have exp and bring in a lot of unproven youngsters to get fans and sponsors interested. The real problem is too many boring races mostly at intermediate tracks and a few 2 milers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ricepig on September 15, 2017, 09:45:06 am
NASCAR doesn't get it. Seems they are trying to lose all the good drivers who have exp and bring in a lot of unproven youngsters to get fans and sponsors interested. The real problem is too many boring races mostly at intermediate tracks and a few 2 milers.

We may need to form a team, looks like we could make the starting grid every week. Anybody running a rice hull burner in NASCAR?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 15, 2017, 10:04:32 am
We may need to form a team, looks like we could make the starting grid every week. Anybody running a rice hull burner in NASCAR?

It is kinda sad when you think of all the corporations making good profits and the stock market doing so well yet teams can't get sponsors. I'm actually gonna watch practice on TV here at 11:30 because I enjoy listening to the driver interviews and the announcers banter. Practice is actually more interesting than the actual Chicago race.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ricepig on September 15, 2017, 11:06:11 am
It is kinda sad when you think of all the corporations making good profits and the stock market doing so well yet teams can't get sponsors. I'm actually gonna watch practice on TV here at 11:30 because I enjoy listening to the driver interviews and the announcers banter. Practice is actually more interesting than the actual Chicago race.

I watch Talladega and Daytona, because like most, I like the big wreck. I'll then watch some small tracks and road races where they use the front bumper, I don't watch the cookie cutter tracks where someone jumps out ahead and can't be caught.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 15, 2017, 04:58:00 pm
I watch Talladega and Daytona, because like most, I like the big wreck. I'll then watch some small tracks and road races where they use the front bumper, I don't watch the cookie cutter tracks where someone jumps out ahead and can't be caught.

Went to Dover in the Spring. Been to Daytona, Richmond and of course Texas and Dover was far and away the best of them.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 18, 2017, 09:28:56 am
Sponsorships are not cheap per season. About $30 plus million. The knock on Kenseth and Busch has been rumored to be the amount of salary both want. 

Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on September 18, 2017, 11:14:06 am
Sponsorships are not cheap per season. About $30 plus million. The knock on Kenseth and Busch has been rumored to be the amount of salary both want.

The days of 10M+ a season are long gone.  Cut that in half for the younger guys coming in today. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 18, 2017, 05:42:52 pm
Sponsorships are not cheap per season. About $30 plus million. The knock on Kenseth and Busch has been rumored to be the amount of salary both want.

http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/20747751/nascar-lawsuit-shows-anatomy-farmers-deal-hendrick-motorsports
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 19, 2017, 07:12:02 am
The days of 10M+ a season are long gone.  Cut that in half for the younger guys coming in today. 
Then they have come way down since the early to mid 2000's.  Which is good.  The downturn on the economy the last 8-9 years really hit hard.  But bigger names make a lot more.  Compare what Johnson and Earnhardt are pulling versus Kahne.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 19, 2017, 09:27:27 am
Then they have come way down since the early to mid 2000's.  Which is good.  The downturn on the economy the last 8-9 years really hit hard.  But bigger names make a lot more.  Compare what Johnson and Earnhardt are pulling versus Kahne.

There has not been an economic downturn in quite a few years. US corporations have had record profits the past few years and have paid record low taxes. These companies just don't see throwing money into NASCAR any longer because of low fan interest in the sport. Sad that its just us hard core fans that keep up with it week after week and even I have lost some interest. I can't stand all the mile and a half tracks.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 19, 2017, 10:58:44 am
Dude, the economy has sucked for several years.  Did you pay attention to the housing crisis at all?  What followed was multiple down years in the economy and less than productive GDP.  That had effects on everything, including folks being able to travel to races.

Nobody would argue the amount of mile and a half tracks is boring, but they at least are making cars raceable again.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 19, 2017, 05:27:32 pm
Dude, the economy has sucked for several years.  Did you pay attention to the housing crisis at all?  What followed was multiple down years in the economy and less than productive GDP.  That had effects on everything, including folks being able to travel to races.

Nobody would argue the amount of mile and a half tracks is boring, but they at least are making cars raceable again.

Are you on drugs ? GDP has risen every year since 2009. Corporate profits have been at all time highs. Of course they have not been sharing that with most of their employees as income gaps continue to grow but that's just the republican way huh ?  :-*
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on September 19, 2017, 06:11:21 pm
Leavine must be looking for a name brand. I thought that McDowell done a god job in that car. Kahne wont run any better.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 20, 2017, 06:23:08 am
Leavine must be looking for a name brand. I thought that McDowell done a god job in that car. Kahne wont run any better.
Kahne's a bigger name, sponsorship wise.  Probably a tad better driver too.  Many had him going to SHR, so with SHR struggling for sponsors I wonder if they drop to 3 teams.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 20, 2017, 06:28:48 am
Are you on drugs ? GDP has risen every year since 2009. Corporate profits have been at all time highs. Of course they have not been sharing that with most of their employees as income gaps continue to grow but that's just the republican way huh ?  :-*
Apparently you are.  GDP never reached 3% or higher under any of Obama's years in office.  Bottom line, the economy struggled and industries constricted.  High unemployment and that was rippled out across everything, including NASCAR.  Hell, Dodge left the sport and manufacturers severely limited investments in the sport. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 20, 2017, 06:34:10 am
Looking at the SHR scenario, neither Kahne or Kenseth are candidates.  Looking at Kahne to the 95, seems more than likely SHR would go back to 3 cars.  Haas was virtually funding a huge chunk of the 41 team.  Plus, Busch wants more salary for 2018.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 20, 2017, 09:36:13 am
Apparently you are.  GDP never reached 3% or higher under any of Obama's years in office.  Bottom line, the economy struggled and industries constricted.  High unemployment and that was rippled out across everything, including NASCAR.  Hell, Dodge left the sport and manufacturers severely limited investments in the sport.

http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year

And corporate profits have been at all time highs in recent years.

Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 20, 2017, 11:03:40 am
http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year

And corporate profits have been at all time highs in recent years.


BS.  It's well known and been documented.  His best GDP growth year was 2015 and it was only 2.6%.  Never hit 3 or above all 8 years.  Only President to achieve that.  Corporate profits?  Not sure what that has to do with anything, but I'd like to video tape you walking into your CEO's office and demanding a raise because profits are at an all time high.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 20, 2017, 12:10:58 pm
Something I hadn't thought about either is Greg Biffle.  Wonder if he is in play for any open rides.

http://www.jayski.com/news/pages/story/_/page/2018-NASCAR-Cup-Team-Driver-Chart
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on September 20, 2017, 05:12:06 pm
BS.  It's well known and been documented.  His best GDP growth year was 2015 and it was only 2.6%.  Never hit 3 or above all 8 years.  Only President to achieve that.  Corporate profits?  Not sure what that has to do with anything, but I'd like to video tape you walking into your CEO's office and demanding a raise because profits are at an all time high.

You don't know what corporate profits have to do with it ? They have been at record levels so they have money to advertise. They are choosing not to do it with NASCAR any longer

You started the argument way down below where you said there has been an economic downturn the past 8-9 years which is false. The economy has grown each year. Maybe not by much but it has grown and profits have been at record highs. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on September 20, 2017, 06:22:43 pm
I thought it was the worst kept secret in NASCAR that Almirola was gonna be in the 10 car next year with Smithfield as the sponsor.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on September 20, 2017, 06:25:47 pm
I thought it was the worst kept secret in NASCAR that Almirola was gonna be in the 10 car next year with Smithfield as the sponsor.
Highly doubt that.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on September 21, 2017, 06:15:02 am
Highly doubt that.
Me either.  Almirola was running right about par with Patrick.  Kenseth and Kahne had both said the 10 was not in play for either of them.  That would make sense since Busch's whole  play on his return has been more money.  I'm betting on Custer since his Dad is listed as an owner.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on October 11, 2017, 10:23:40 am
So the #34 has an open seat for 2018.
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2017/10/10/landon-cassill-out-front-row-motorsports-free-agent/
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on October 12, 2017, 07:09:20 am
So the #34 has an open seat for 2018.
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2017/10/10/landon-cassill-out-front-row-motorsports-free-agent/

Kenseth sold his house or I would think maybe they are going after him but I can't really see Matt taking an uncompetitive ride. 

I am really hoping Wallace gets a shot next year with someone.  Would have enjoyed him in the 21 car. Menard not so much.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on October 12, 2017, 07:22:06 am
 

I am really hoping Wallace gets a shot next year with someone.  Would have enjoyed him in the 21 car. Menard not so much.
Menard brings money.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on October 12, 2017, 09:55:58 am
Kenseth sold his house or I would think maybe they are going after him but I can't really see Matt taking an uncompetitive ride. 

I am really hoping Wallace gets a shot next year with someone.  Would have enjoyed him in the 21 car. Menard not so much.
My thinking is this is where McDowell ends up.  Wallace is rumored going to the 43.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: AllenK on October 13, 2017, 01:16:00 pm
LOL! You know you have grown up going to the dirt tracks when McDowell and Wallace means Dale McDowell from Georgia and Wendell Wallace from Batesville. Two badass short track racers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on October 13, 2017, 01:50:13 pm
LOL! You know you have grown up going to the dirt tracks when McDowell and Wallace means Dale McDowell from Georgia and Wendell Wallace from Batesville. Two badass short track racers.

Oh yeah! My hometown boy Wallace. Is he still racing ?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: AllenK on October 13, 2017, 11:27:39 pm
Oh yeah! My hometown boy Wallace. Is he still racing ?

Yes he is! He's running more regional type stuff now though.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: DeWayne R on October 14, 2017, 08:41:54 pm
Oh yeah! My hometown boy Wallace. Is he still racing ?

He's been crew chief'n for Timmy Culp
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on October 25, 2017, 08:36:49 pm
It's finally official, Bubba Wallace in the 43.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on October 31, 2017, 06:20:17 am
FRM appears to be staying with Ford and getting a Tier 1 engine program.  As well as restrictor palte and road course cars from Roush.  Ragan and McDowell look like the drivers.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on November 01, 2017, 07:11:44 am
Danica to Roush?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on November 01, 2017, 08:04:33 pm
Danica to Roush?
Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 01, 2017, 08:13:34 pm
Where did you hear this?

If Stewart-Haas can't find her some sponsors how the hell can Roush ?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on November 02, 2017, 06:28:25 am
Where did you hear this?

http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21237637/could-danica-move-roush-fenway

Roush has 3 charters and apparently Ford wants to keep her driving for them.  IDK maybe Ford sponsors her.  Everyone knows Roush runs one of the tightest budgets of all the upper teams and always has. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on November 02, 2017, 06:59:01 am
http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21237637/could-danica-move-roush-fenway

Roush has 3 charters and apparently Ford wants to keep her driving for them.  IDK maybe Ford sponsors her.  Everyone knows Roush runs one of the tightest budgets of all the upper teams and always has. 
Don't get why Ford would want to keep her, it's not like you even know she's in the race. riding around in the back.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 02, 2017, 07:04:44 am
Don't get why Ford would want to keep her, it's not like you even know she's in the race. riding around in the back.
Kinda like Dale Jr. these last few years.  But, his name is marketable.  So is Danica.  She may never see victory lane, but she's done better in the sport than any woman ever has.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on November 02, 2017, 07:56:21 am
Kinda like Dale Jr. these last few years.  But, his name is marketable.  So is Danica.  She may never see victory lane, but she's done better in the sport than any woman ever has.

Ford says it draws women to their brand.  As much as they spend advertising sponsoring her with an endorsement contract through a race team might be worth it.  If Ford says we can fund 15 million to sponsor the car but in return you have to be a spokeswoman it is a win for both Ford and Danica.  Not that she will ever see victory lane but outside of JR who else gets to ride around all day doing nothing and get shown on the screen repeatedly.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on November 03, 2017, 09:16:15 am
If Stewart-Haas can't find her some sponsors how the hell can Roush ?
you remember what you said when I told you that Almirola would be in the 10 next year?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 03, 2017, 09:26:36 am
I think Almirola gets the 10 IF he brings Smithfield with him. 
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on November 03, 2017, 09:29:27 am
hes already signed to drive the 10 next year.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 03, 2017, 10:07:03 am
you remember what you said when I told you that Almirola would be in the 10 next year?

No... find it for me
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 03, 2017, 10:14:23 am
hes already signed to drive the 10 next year.
Ok, it was buried down in Jayski.  But yes, he is bringing Smithfield with him.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 03, 2017, 10:16:36 am
My guess is Danica will get the #44
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 03, 2017, 01:11:48 pm
Ok, it was buried down in Jayski.  But yes, he is bringing Smithfield with him.

Perhaps I was full of beer when I read last week that Smithfield had worked things out with Petty. Can someone give me an update so I don't have to go searching thru articles ?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: hawginbigd1 on November 03, 2017, 08:27:38 pm
Kinda like Dale Jr. these last few years.  But, his name is marketable.  So is Danica.  She may never see victory lane, but she's done better in the sport than any woman ever has.
No woman has ever been in the quality of equipment she has. She is a never was.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on November 03, 2017, 10:09:07 pm
No woman has ever been in the quality of equipment she has. She is a never was.
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on November 04, 2017, 02:32:50 am
Perhaps I was full of beer when I read last week that Smithfield had worked things out with Petty. Can someone give me an update so I don't have to go searching thru articles ?

Smithfield is moving on but they settles with RPM and will provide some sponsorship to the 43 as well as the 10 next year.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 04, 2017, 09:15:35 am
Smithfield is moving on but they settles with RPM and will provide some sponsorship to the 43 as well as the 10 next year.

Interesting. I can't believe Kenseth and Busch still don't have rides. Would be bad for the sport to lose so many big name drivers in a matter of three years.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 04, 2017, 11:05:42 am
Busch has a ride in the 41.  He and Kenseth could both sign deals like weeks ago.  THe issue is both are looking for more money.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 04, 2017, 11:08:11 am
No woman has ever been in the quality of equipment she has. She is a never was.
Not true, Evernham's current wife was in top notch equip.  There simply has not been another female with better skills than Danica in CUp to date.  If a dirt tracker ever does, might see it.  THe open wheel folks seem to mightly struggle outside of road courses.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on November 04, 2017, 06:39:52 pm
Kenseth retiring.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 04, 2017, 07:02:54 pm
Kenseth retiring.

Damn. His comments are very telling about how far NASCAR has fallen. He says he feels like he should have been allowed to go out on his own terms but the decision was made for him. NASCAR needs to go back to its roots of short track racing and dump most of the mile and a halfs. Viewership and sponsorship ain't coming back until boring races are no longer the norm
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: str8volfan on November 04, 2017, 07:14:32 pm
Damn. His comments are very telling about how far NASCAR has fallen. He says he feels like he should have been allowed to go out on his own terms but the decision was made for him. NASCAR needs to go back to its roots of short track racing and dump most of the mile and a halfs. Viewership and sponsorship ain't coming back until boring races are no longer the norm
you see where some racers are lobbying for some "during the week" races?
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 04, 2017, 07:24:06 pm
you see where some racers are lobbying for some "during the week" races?

Won't help. I live 45 mins away from Texas Motor Speedway. Only way I would go is if the weather was very mild and I had to wear at least a windbreaker. Nope ! Gonna be upper 80's so for the first time in at least 9 yrs I'm missing a local NASCAR race. Not gonna sweat and be bored.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on November 08, 2017, 05:56:18 pm
hes already signed to drive the 10 next year.
You can go anywhere as long as you bring money.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: holeinthewall on November 13, 2017, 06:54:03 am
Kurt Busch still not signed.  Must be a big pay cut. Guess he as 3 choices. Drive for what they offer. Take a ride in the back of the field like Bowyer was in 2 years ago.  Go sit next to Matt in the unemployment line.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: riccoar on November 13, 2017, 07:20:22 am
Busch's only positive is Haas backs him.  So he has Haas as sponsor and Monster.  Expecting more money is unrealistic to me without better results.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: ImHogginIt on November 13, 2017, 05:07:39 pm
Busch's only positive is Haas backs him.  So he has Haas as sponsor and Monster.  Expecting more money is unrealistic to me without better results.

Too bad teams don't get to share much of the tv revenue. Gonna be hard for me to watch next year with so many veteran quality driers gone.
Title: Re: Rumor mill
Post by: Racinray on November 13, 2017, 05:48:05 pm
Gonna be hard for me to watch next year with so many veteran quality driers gone.
For sure it's going to be a new look.