Official Explanation of Flagrant Foul Against Seton Hall

[moses_007]

This says it all.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/here%e2%80%99s-the-official-explanation-for-the-controversial-flagrant-foul-call-in-the-seton-hall-game/ar-BByicvE?li=BBnb7Kz

[moses_007]

What's amazing is that this call went in our favor, after we committed two flagrant's at the end of the Kentucky game.

[Hoggish1]

What's amazing is that this call went in our favor, after we committed two flagrant's at the end of the Kentucky game.

Well, one out of infinity ain't bad.

[GS99]

Maybe this was pointed out in one of the other threads, but I was out of state, driving, and listening to the national radio broadcast of the game with John Thompson. They had it as a flagrant from the second it happened and kept saying it was the right call.

[TheEnemy]

How could you argue that as a bad call?

He tripped and pushed him from behind.  It was completely intentional and was not any kind of basketball move or fundamental

[jbigs77]

I think it was a bad call. The SH player pushed with both hands and tripped him. It should have been a ejection. But at least he called it a flagrant. The announcer was obliviously for Seton Hall. And by the way the head officials was there. Humm. wish he was at all our games. First time we got justice all year. By the way SEC refs are not honest. If they was we would be a 3 seed. Just sayin.

[Stewhog 11]

Wow, according to that description he gave of the rule, that could be in a training video for young officials for what a F1 is. Now if people don't like the actual rule that's fine, but it was called exactly how it should no question.

[Wild Bill Hog]

There are no SEC refs you know - right?

[hogcard1964]

He knocked the sh&® out of him.  It was flagrant.   

Game over.

[rude1]

Anyone who knows anything about the rule should know it was correctly called. Change the rule if you don't like it, but the rule clearly says you must be playing the ball or the player, pushing him in the back after you are beaten is not playing the ball or player.........

[Karma]

Moses against UK - not flagrant. Maybe not a foul.
Seton Hall today - should be ejected

[Uberanubis]

Maybe this was pointed out in one of the other threads, but I was out of state, driving, and listening to the national radio broadcast of the game with John Thompson. They had it as a flagrant from the second it happened and kept saying it was the right call.

off topic but i loved listening to the calls on the national network. sooo much better then our less then steller color men

[Cmheinley]

The difference between Arkansas and Kentucky fans. We won't seek out every form of social media to throw a bytch fit about that foul. Kentucky fans are the most entitles cry babies I have ever seen. WPS! great win!

[Cmheinley]

Entitled*

[moses_007]

The TV announcers kept saying it was just an accidental trip.  As Nolan used to say, a blind man could see that... (that it was flagrant.......)

[Science Fiction Greg]

Moses against UK - not flagrant. Maybe not a foul.
Seton Hall today - should be ejected

Moses against UK - clearly flagrant, arguably flagrant two, but irrelevant since it was #2 on him.
Seton Hall today - it was a flagrant one, clearly not a two.  No ejection for flagrant one.

0/2

[rtr]

The rest of the nation hates Arkansas, been that way since 1836,

[upperdeck_hawg]

did anyone else see that Macon took three steps before dribbling before the flagrant

[Smalltownhog95]

Anyone who knows anything about the rule should know it was correctly called. Change the rule if you don't like it, but the rule clearly says you must be playing the ball or the player, pushing him in the back after you are beaten is not playing the ball or player.........

This. Letter of the law its a flagrant. I don't think it was dirty or think he tripped Barford on purpose. But clearly not a basketball play and a F1. We've had F1's called on is for less.

[niels_boar]

Geezus, refs don't let that call go...ever.  It's just that 99.9% of college basketball players know not to shove a ballhandler to the ground from behind when trying to stop the clock.  Rodriquez should be thanking his lucky stars that he isn't getting the pile-on for an idiotic play like Fisher-Davis.  Nevermind that it made a one point and one second difference in the game.  If Seton Hall had made that trey, the game would have been in the same situation with only 4 seconds off the clock.  They didn't score in last 1:45. 

I guess had that foul not been called correctly Seton Hall would obviously have made their first three-pointer in 11 minutes, stopped us on a last possession, and then won OT with an exhausted and foul troubled lineup after having been outscored 23-9 in the last 10 minutes.  Otherwise, yeah, it decided the game.  What a load of click-bait crap.

[jm]

Geezus, refs don't let that call go...ever.  It's just that 99.9% of college basketball players know not to shove a ballhandler to the ground from behind when trying to stop the clock.  Rodriquez should be thanking his lucky stars that he isn't getting the pile-on for an idiotic play like Fisher-Davis.  Nevermind that it made a one point and one second difference in the game.  If Seton Hall had made that trey, the game would have been in the same situation with only 4 seconds off the clock.  They didn't score in last 1:45. 

I guess had that foul not been called correctly Seton Hall would obviously have made their first three-pointer in 11 minutes, stopped us on a last possession, and then won OT with an exhausted and foul troubled lineup after having been outscored 23-9 in the last 10 minutes.  Otherwise, yeah, it decided the game.  What a load of click-bait crap.

It could have made the difference in the game. There is a big difference in pressure  when you are at the line up 1 and up 1 knowing you get the ball if you miss. To change one call  or for any one play could be the difference in a one point game in the final minute.

[TippecanoeHawg]

did anyone else see that Macon took three steps before dribbling before the flagrant

Sure did.

[niels_boar]

It could have made the difference in the game. There is a big difference in pressure  when you are at the line up 1 and up 1 knowing you get the ball if you miss. To change one call  or for any one play could be the difference in a one point game in the final minute.

There's also a big difference in shooting FTs alone at the line.  Barford has been an 80% FT shooter since January.  Not exactly like the odds were with Seton Hall that he miss the front end. It helped, but this notion that the refs are supposed to ignore the rulebook in order to make a more exciting game is BS.  Arkansas would have had more to complain about than SH if they hadn't made the call.  I was yelling flagrant as soon as it happened, not because of the trip, but because of the shove.  You have to make at least a half-hearted attempt to play the ball.   

[moses_007]

did anyone else see that Macon took three steps before dribbling before the flagrant

I didn't see that, and glad the ref's missed it too............

[Karma]

Nova didn't get the flagrant call in the favor. No attempt on the ball. Same rule as our game. Except it's never called to the letter.

[Science Fiction Greg]

Nova didn't get the flagrant call in the favor. No attempt on the ball. Same rule as our game. Except it's never called to the letter.

You are absolutely as clueless as they come.

[moses_007]

Moses against UK - clearly flagrant, arguably flagrant two, but irrelevant since it was #2 on him.
Seton Hall today - it was a flagrant one, clearly not a two.  No ejection for flagrant one.

0/2

Moses' foul appeared to be entirely accidental.  He went up to deny the shot and accidently came down on the KY player's face.  That type of thing happens all the time in basketball. 

[my3boneheads]

It was flagrant. The media keeps saying but what if. It's not what if it's what actually happened.

[DeltaBoy]

It was a good call.