Kid From Greenwood NOT Considering ARKANSAS ?

[Albert Einswine]

Besides all that MML, I'm just more than a little concerned about a QB whose last name is Pick!  LOL.

[slopinhogs]

he needs to listen to Weiss at Notre Dame you don't win the big games with a rushing offence. you must learn to pass the ball. what if you rush for 425 yards in the game and lose 28 -21 who will care. to quote Mr. Weiss.
:razorback:

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

Would you rather have the rivals #5 quarterback at his position or the #21 at his position?

I'm glad Wilson put the restraint on or I would have told you that you have rocks in your head.  This post is a prime example but I won't resort to that.  I can make my point just fine although it would be nice to add some emphasis for fun but I understand folks get too worked up.

If you'll re-read my post, you'll notice that I did not call for us to pick between Youngblood and Wilson.  Youngblood is not from Kansas.  I'd like to have both.

SO you're not happy about Pick then? I personally would like to have both Youngblood and Wilson on our team, but understand the danger in recruiting 2 kids that are likely to go into pro baseball rather than play college football.

No, I'm not happy one bit about Pick.  I would fine with his recruitment if the following two items were true:

1)  Nutt wasn't so late on Wilson and chose to be lazy rather than recruit. 
2)  He had more big time schools recruiting him. 

All we hear is about improving the passing game, yet Nutt doesn't want the kid who can throw the ball who is only an hour and a half away.  It's pure hogwash.

The excuse about baseball doesn't apply:
1)  Youngblood could play baseball too.  It doesn't how matter how many QBs leave.  If 1 or 20 go, they are no help to your team.
2)  Even if both of these kids go, we have plenty of QBs, unless you believe last year's class was a dud (which I do).  Nathan Dick may be able to help but I don't think Chaisson is big enough or fast enough to cut it in the SEC.

I agree with you about last years class, and so think that it is crucial that we have at least one QB that we know will be on campus out of this particular recruiting class. It is far from a sure thing that either Youngblood or Wilson play college football, and I can understand not wanting to use your 2 scholarships on 2 kids that may not even show up on campus. We took the chance on one, but that other scholarship MUST be used for a kid that we are POSITIVE will be on campus.

No, you can take a risk.  That's where we differ.  You're going the conservative route.  I'm going with the high risk, high reward.  BTW, I really don't think it's that likely but I'll call it high risk to be fair in regards to your argument.

To me, we should have never been in this situation.  I wouldn't have ran Mr. You know who off but that's water under the bridge now.  Even under the circumstances, I would still take both. 

You also factor in that we're just letting more schools come in and take our kids and open up pipelines.  It's a dangerous trend.  Not to mention, schools weren't exactly knocking down the door of Pick.  To me, we'd been better off taking the gamble.  If not, I'm comfortable that Casey and Nathan are better than this Pick kid.

To me, it comes down to this:  You can't go tell everyone you're trying to improve the passing game and then sign two dual threat QBs and barely sniff the town of Greenwood with a kid who completed 67% as a junior. 

But not one single bit of that fits Nutt's style. He is a conservative guy, and I can understand his being conservative on this. Should he have been after Wilson? IMO hell yes, but between being bit in the ass over Mitch last season (no I'm not saying Mitch did anything wrong, just saying in the end trying it bit Nutt in the ass) and the fact that both of these kids could go pro on baseball I can understand his reasoning.

[razorback3072]

he needs to listen to Weiss at Notre Dame you don't win the big games with a rushing offence. you must learn to pass the ball. what if you rush for 425 yards in the game and lose 28 -21 who will care. to quote Mr. Weiss.
:razorback:

See LSU game. 

Yeah, I know special teams hurt us but DMAC ran all over them and we still lost and we lost in the end because we had no passing game or two minute offense.

[YellvilleHog]

But not one single bit of that fits Nutt's style. He is a conservative guy, and I can understand his being conservative on this. Should he have been after Wilson? IMO hell yes, but between being bit in the ass over Mitch last season (no I'm not saying Mitch did anything wrong, just saying in the end trying it bit Nutt in the ass) and the fact that both of these kids could go pro on baseball I can understand his reasoning.

Do I understand Nutt?  Yes.  He's scared of his own shadow if I may exaggerate a tad.

But we're not talking about whether we understand him.  We're talking about do we agree?  I say the answer to that is an emphatic no!  Why sign people just to fill a roster spot?

Do you agree with me that you would take either Casey or Nathan over this Pick kid?  I sure would.

To be quite honest, I haven't seen enough of Pick to know if I would take him or not. It sounds to me like your more upset about recruiting Pick then you are about not recruiting Wilson, is that accurate?

[razorback3072]

But not one single bit of that fits Nutt's style. He is a conservative guy, and I can understand his being conservative on this. Should he have been after Wilson? IMO hell yes, but between being bit in the ass over Mitch last season (no I'm not saying Mitch did anything wrong, just saying in the end trying it bit Nutt in the ass) and the fact that both of these kids could go pro on baseball I can understand his reasoning.

It bit him because of his own ego.  Getting MM here helped boost ticket sales(helping to save his job) and won us 7 games in a row(not counting SC for either QB).  benching him finished us 2-3.  Bottom line is he is scared to recruit top QBs because ever since the 2000 season he has done what Frank wanted and been super conservative.  If he brings in a "passing" QB then that won't make daddy happy.

[Albert Einswine]

Yellville,  110 posts per day in the 4 days since you've been a member.

That's some impressive marketing you're doing for the BAC.  What are they paying you?

[THHAWG]

Wilson's terrific passing stats and 5A state title, in which he played great when it mattered most, would lead me to prefer him over Youngblood.  But that would be assuming Nutt was going to implement a real passing game.  Youngblood could build a case in 2007 though.

[YellvilleHog]

Yellville,  110 posts per day in the 4 days since you've been a member.

That's some impressive marketing you're doing for the BAC.  What are they paying you?

They pay me in nachos and all the coeds I can handle.

[HognotinMemphis]

Is this some mistake on rivals.com ? What is going on here. I notice his speed is not the greatest, but wondering if he is not being recruited by Arkansas, or does he not like a pro-style offense ?

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=56871

Is he a QB? Is he being recruited by the upper echelon of college programs? If the answer is "yes" to both questions, then why would he consider Arkansas? If I was a QB in HS and being recruited by top 20 programs of the past 10 or so years, the Hogs would literally be last on my list even if I lived in the Hogs' backyard. Nutt couldn't coach a QB if his life depended on it. And neither can Lee.

[Justme]

Regardless, I still can't believe Nutt didn't offer him.

[tigerLSU]

Another big mistake by Nutt. I guess they didn't want him. I know LSU wants him and he has as much talent throwing the ball and moves very well in the pocket. I think Tyler is right there with Mitch Mustain in throwing the ball and maybe even moves better in the pocket.

Many people think that he will committ to LSU..soon

[Justme]

Another big mistake by Nutt. I guess they didn't want him. I know LSU wants him and he has as much talent throwing the ball and moves very well in the pocket. I think Tyler is right there with Mitch Mustain in throwing the ball and maybe even moves better in the pocket.

Many people think that he will committ to LSU..soon

Thanks, HDN.  Another outstanding decision.

[YellvilleHog]

David Lee will use the routes Nutt has always used.  He'll defer when Nutt wants to call plays.  Nutt won't have to worry about the fans watching him to see if he overrules Gus or is doing the chickendance to signal in those plays.  The fire drill on the sidelines will resume.

Don't worry and Pseudo called this idea back in about February...

Nutt saw what McFadden could do in the wildcat and had flashbacks to Matt Jones.  No one teaches that option like David Lee though.  We saw clips on the news in the spring with McFadden running that same radar option.  Just wait and see.

See and I would think that if Nutt truly had the big ego that some say he does that he would go all out with the pass this next season as a big Frank you to all his detractors.

[Justme]

Might not have a passer, Yellville.

[SteelShot]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

[BigDeal]

Is this some mistake on rivals.com ? What is going on here. I notice his speed is not the greatest, but wondering if he is not being recruited by Arkansas, or does he not like a pro-style offense ?

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=56871

The Great Nutt has decided not to recruit Mr. Wilson.  He considered some other schools so obviously, he doesn't "want to be a Razorback" bad enough to play for Mr. Nutt.

I'm not sure I am satisfied with that answer. Any three star pro-style rated QB in a coach's back door should have the home school on his short list, even if the final committment isn't there.

Something doesn't stir right with this.

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

[Richard_white]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

[Richard_white]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

[Richard_white]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

NO.  I am saying either Auburn or Arkansas.  It can be anybody in the state.  Get it?

[Newhopehog]

well nutts staff broke the agreement with the NCAA that no booster would be on the sideline, so what would another little stretch mean.....

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

NO.  I am saying either Auburn or Arkansas.  It can be anybody in the state.  Get it?

Auburn is not a state, they are a school. If it was someone at Auburn, it was someone at the school, it stands to reason that you aren't saying it was either someone  at Auburn the school or Arkansas the state.

[YellvilleHog]

well nutts staff broke the agreement with the NCAA that no booster would be on the sideline, so what would another little stretch mean.....

Did he? The ONLY place that I have read that there are boosters on the sidelines of our games is on here. I go to all the games and have never seen a booster on the sideline. I admit I wasn't scouring the site looking for signs of one, but I have looked at the sideline and never noticed one.

[SteelShot]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

You are truly lost if you do not think that Nutt and the MSM talks to Grit about recruits.  The Kodi burns incident wasnt the first time it happened, but it was the worst that I can remember. 

[Richard_white]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

NO.  I am saying either Auburn or Arkansas.  It can be anybody in the state.  Get it?

Auburn is not a state, they are a school. If it was someone at Auburn, it was someone at the school, it stands to reason that you aren't saying it was either someone  at Auburn the school or Arkansas the state.

It could possibly be.  I'm not sure.  I am saying that someone was spreading rumors about Kodi to try to influence him to make a decision.

[oldtimerhog]

Is this some mistake on rivals.com ? What is going on here. I notice his speed is not the greatest, but wondering if he is not being recruited by Arkansas, or does he not like a pro-style offense ?

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=56871

No mistake on rivals.com bigdeal. The kid is obviously very intelligent.  No way he should consider Arkansas with Nutt and Lee at the helm on offense.  Get ready, the mouthpieces for the Hill will start hyping Youngblood and Pick and putting down Wilson.  Screwing with the life of a 17 year old.  That is their style.  Wilson will be the best QB of the three of course and he will always be happy he didn't chose Nutt!

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

You are truly lost if you do not think that Nutt and the MSM talks to Grit about recruits.  The Kodi burns incident wasnt the first time it happened, but it was the worst that I can remember. 

Of course they talk in generals, but they don't talk about specific recruits. I can't believe our own "fans" are now accusing our staff of NCAA violations. Sad.

[Newhopehog]

So you are saying that TP was never on the sideline and did not have a sideline pass.......

[YellvilleHog]

So you are saying that TP was never on the sideline and did not have a sideline pass.......

I am saying that I never saw her there, and the only "confirmation" I've had that she was came from this site.

[YellvilleHog]

David Lee will use the routes Nutt has always used.  He'll defer when Nutt wants to call plays.  Nutt won't have to worry about the fans watching him to see if he overrules Gus or is doing the chickendance to signal in those plays.  The fire drill on the sidelines will resume.

Don't worry and Pseudo called this idea back in about February...

Nutt saw what McFadden could do in the wildcat and had flashbacks to Matt Jones.  No one teaches that option like David Lee though.  We saw clips on the news in the spring with McFadden running that same radar option.  Just wait and see.

See and I would think that if Nutt truly had the big ego that some say he does that he would go all out with the pass this next season as a big Frank you to all his detractors.

Well you're going to have to pick between his ego and his conservative nature now.

I would think his ego would over ride his conservatism.

[oldtimerhog]

Is this some mistake on rivals.com ? What is going on here. I notice his speed is not the greatest, but wondering if he is not being recruited by Arkansas, or does he not like a pro-style offense ?

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=56871

The Great Nutt has decided not to recruit Mr. Wilson.  He considered some other schools so obviously, he doesn't "want to be a Razorback" bad enough to play for Mr. Nutt.

I'm not sure I am satisfied with that answer. Any three star pro-style rated QB in a coach's back door should have the home school on his short list, even if the final committment isn't there.

Something doesn't stir right with this.

Nutt never "stirs" right!

[Richard_white]

So you are saying that TP was never on the sideline and did not have a sideline pass.......

I am saying that I never saw her there, and the only "confirmation" I've had that she was came from this site.

Well she had to been on the sideline or someone had been talking to her. She couldn't have known what she typed in that email to Mitch if she wasn't there first hand or someone talking to her.  Which one do you believe is true?

[DaForsaken]

According to my understanding of the rules, a coach CAN comment on certain recruits.  However, it cannot be in a public forum, or to a reporter that might report and/or publish any comments.  Coaches talk to their friends and family about recruits all of the time.

[YellvilleHog]

So you are saying that TP was never on the sideline and did not have a sideline pass.......

I am saying that I never saw her there, and the only "confirmation" I've had that she was came from this site.

Well she had to been on the sideline or someone had been talking to her. She couldn't know what she typed if she wasn't there first hand or someone talking to her.  Which one do you believe is true?

I can believe she was at practices, which wasn't against the rules, and I can believe that she was hearing things from people that led her to have her crazy thoughts. Neither of those things broke the rules about her being on the sidelines during a game.

[Newhopehog]

then why did the uni revoke her sideline pass over the email?

[SteelShot]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

You are truly lost if you do not think that Nutt and the MSM talks to Grit about recruits.  The Kodi burns incident wasnt the first time it happened, but it was the worst that I can remember. 

Of course they talk in generals, but they don't talk about specific recruits. I can't believe our own "fans" are now accusing our staff of NCAA violations. Sad.

What is sad is that you belive that coaches dont talk to writers about players (yes, even recruits). Grit gets his info from the coaches and others, then writes about it.  He never tells his source.  And you are saying this does not go on here, and probably every other school?

[hoghearted]

So you are saying that TP was never on the sideline and did not have a sideline pass.......

I am saying that I never saw her there, and the only "confirmation" I've had that she was came from this site.

Well she had to been on the sideline or someone had been talking to her. She couldn't have known what she typed in that email to Mitch if she wasn't there first hand or someone talking to her.  Which one do you believe is true?

Now Richard, you know Houston and Danny would never ever do such a thing as torpedo their player(s) by spewing venom about them to an outsider. Nor would they violate a self-imposed restriction by allowing a booster on the sidelines. I'm sure that TP has extra-sensory clairvoyant talents that gave her that information for her poison letter.

[YellvilleHog]

Ask your buddy Nutt why he's been a day late and a dollar short with this kid?

(Hint: He might have had to actually work for him so he just took the kid who would fall over because of an offer from the Hogs, which usually speaks volumes for who was recruiting him prior when he's from Kansas)

This is the absolute truth.  I have always said that Nutt would rather recruit against teams that he knows he can beat (TCU, RICE, New Mexico, Iowa St., Lousianna Tech) than go against the big dogs and lose a kid.  Especially in state kids!  If an instate kid even looks at another school seriously, then Nutt is ready to pull his offer and put Grit on the "destroy the kid" war path. 

What a bunch of BS - like Nutt calls up Grit and says "Ok I didn't want Player X , so make sure you write it up that he isn't a very good player" knowing full well the level of scrutiny given to recruiting.

Yeah I wonder who was spreading those Kodi rumors around

I seriously doubt it was the coaching staff, or are you suggesting that Coach Nutt also breaks NCAA rules by commenting on recruits before they have signed a LOI even though there has never been even a hint of breaking the rules on Nutt's part.

No.  I was saying someone was spreading rumors about Kodi during the recruitment year.  Auburn or Arkansas.

So, either you're saying that Nutt's staff broke rules or you're saying Tube's staff broke rules.

You are truly lost if you do not think that Nutt and the MSM talks to Grit about recruits.  The Kodi burns incident wasnt the first time it happened, but it was the worst that I can remember. 

Of course they talk in generals, but they don't talk about specific recruits. I can't believe our own "fans" are now accusing our staff of NCAA violations. Sad.

I'm going to sit here and accuse our school and every other country in the nation of breaking NCAA rules.  Are you telling me Nutt has never broken an NCAA rule in 10 years?  Baloney.  I understand your point but it happens.  No, I'm not condoning it in the least bit.

How do you think Otis knows all of those recruits? 

It has been suggested before you came around by those that moderate this board that Nutt has "left" or "leaves" recruiting lists on his desk.  It was also suggested Nutt donated about $4K to Otis after his fire.  The two are close and there's no denying that.  Shoot all they have to do is hold up a list and Otis tells Nutt to point to the kid he's going to visit and then point to the ones that have committed.  There, Nutt has not "commented" on recruits. 

No, I'm not suggesting that Nutt has never broken an NCAA rule - heck I'm sure all coaches do, I am saying he's not stupid and wouldn't be so blatant about it as to make sure his buddy Grit destroys every recruit that gets away from UA. I'm sure that Grit does that on his own.

[RD]

Another big mistake by Nutt. I guess they didn't want him. I know LSU wants him and he has as much talent throwing the ball and moves very well in the pocket. I think Tyler is right there with Mitch Mustain in throwing the ball and maybe even moves better in the pocket.

Many people think that he will committ to LSU..soon

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[baitshop]

I had lunch with Tyler's Dad today and asked him about the "baseball" thing..........

Otis is WRONG and has been from day one.........he (Otis) has NEVER spoken to Tyler or his family in regards to baseball.........

LSU...........looking VERY good right now..........decision to be made sooner than later.......

FACTS........no opinion.......

[YellvilleHog]

I had lunch with Tyler's Dad today and asked him about the "baseball" thing..........

Otis is WRONG and has been from day one.........he (Otis) has NEVER spoken to Tyler or his family in regards to baseball.........

LSU...........looking VERY good right now..........decision to be made sooner than later.......

FACTS........no opinion.......

Oh great, another poster with sources..........

[Chief Mac]

I know that hating on Nutt is the thing to do but is it possible that Lee wants more dual threat Qbs for his offense???  Why offer to a guy that does not fit your style?

but I thought Lee was implementing a pro-style offense and grooming QB's the way he did Romo in Dallas?  Isn't that the latest propaganda?  If so, Wilson should be falling over himself to play under the tuteledge of such a great developer of QB's.    

[toshortrock]

is this really a shock to anyone,,that a  good quarterback does not want to play for Nutt,and he acts like he doesn;t want him,,well,Let Bama or LSU have him,so in the future he will be back to stomp the dodoo out of us

[1longshot]

Hes a 3 star QB, Youngblood is a 4 star.  Yet you complain when Youngblood is clearly the better pro style QB and not just some pass happy spread QB

i'd trust espn to rank the quality of the players if i were you they seem to be a little more reliable over time than rivals

and by the way
wilson: espn 150 watchlist - 80
youngblood:  75

[WilsonHog]

A couple of things.

(1) How did this become a thread about a booster?

(2) It may not be a part of his offensive package now, but in his last stint with us David Lee was the guru of the midline option. I was coaching high school ball at the time, and we heard him speak about the midline at several clinics we attended. Those were the days of Matt Jones and Mark Pierce.

(3) I am not surprised that Nutt isn't recruiting Wilson for two reasons. First of all, Nutt seems to believe that Arkansas kids really shouldn't have to be recruited. Even if he does believe that, his belief is obviously incorrect as evidenced by players like Ziemba, Burns, Shelley, etc. leaving the state the past few years. Secondly, a passing quarterback isn't needed to run Nutt's offense. All he needs is a quarterback who can be a caretaker; a low-risk, low-reward guy. Take care of the football, throw the occasional play-action pass, and above all don't get us beat. Like it or not, that seems to be his philosophy (or more accurately JFB channeling through him).

[billypig]

we don't want a throwing qb, us fans need to get used to that.  they want another quinn grovey

I would take another Quinn Grovey and his W/L records anyday. 

[waphill]

Man, roll-outs with Monk on an out and a fullback as a relief valve.........seems deadly.

Shush! You can't be giving out our secret plays like that. Opposing coaches could be reading this. Keep it on the DL.