Tim Couch didn't like UA's gameplan

[Hong Kong Sooey]

Couch hit the nail squarely on the head.
Where is this balanced offense HDN talked about the day Gus was hired ?
They win a big game with an unbalanced offense and suddenly they don't need to develop their freshman QB. Lets keep using him as a good hander offer.
They will pay for this down the road.
Sugar Bowl or Cotton Bowl. What is your goal ?

I couldnt agree more.  There will be a game in which the running game will freeze up and then the hogs will be done.

Name the last power running team to win the NC.  Your gonna go back pretty far and probably to Nebraska in 95.

Perfect chance was squandered to get MM some confidence and to work on the passing game.

Nebraska 1997.  But you have the right idea.

try ohio st. in 2002, maybe.  i seem to remember them running Maurice Clarett quite a bit.  and i further remember that Craig Krentzel wasn't much of downfield passer.

That's not too terribly far back.

but hey, I'd rather find something silly to whine about anyway. 

do a little further digging than your memory banks, it was not a run oriented offense that won that NC.


Pulled out...

If you could please:  http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/010303aaa.html

Then get back to me.  I'll be more than happy to highlight it for you-

Ohio State rushed 52 (yes, that is 52 times) out of a possible 73 plays in that national championship game against miami.  I'm not that good at math, but I do know thats more than a 70% clip of running.

Why don't you inform me as to what you think constitutes a "run-oriented offense".

I look forward to your response.

Ohio State
Cumulative Season Statistics
Team Statistics
Individual Statistics
Defensive Statistics

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Overall Team Statistics
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                            2002 Ohio State Football
            Ohio State Overall Team Statistics (as of Jan 10, 2003)
                                   All games

TEAM STATISTICS                         OSU          OPP
--------------------------------------------------------
SCORING.......................          410          183
  Points Per Game.............         29.3         13.1
FIRST DOWNS...................          245          243
  Rushing.....................          133           72
  Passing.....................          106          155
  Penalty.....................            6           16
RUSHING YARDAGE...............         2678          1088
  Yards gained rushing........         3000         1481
  Yards lost rushing..........          322          393
  Rushing Attempts............          629          418
  Average Per Rush............          4.3          2.6
  Average Per Game............        191.3         77.7
  TDs Rushing.................           31            5
PASSING YARDAGE...............         2425         3404
  Att-Comp-Int................    280-173-7   546-315-18
  Average Per Pass............          8.7          6.2
  Average Per Catch...........         14.0         10.8
  Average Per Game............        173.2        243.1
  TDs Passing.................           14           14
TOTAL OFFENSE.................         5103         4492
  Total Plays.................          909          964
  Average Per Play............          5.6          4.7
  Average Per Game............        364.5        320.9
KICK RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       37-747       33-711
PUNT RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       43-358       33-423
INT RETURNS: #-YARDS..........       18-199         7-87
KICK RETURN AVERAGE...........         20.2         21.5
PUNT RETURN AVERAGE...........          8.3         12.8
INT RETURN AVERAGE............         11.1         12.4
FUMBLES-LOST..................        17-10        20-12
PENALTIES-YARDS...............       76-571       66-561
  Average Per Game............         40.8         40.1
PUNTS-YARDS...................      61-2697      76-2821
  Average Per Punt............         44.2         37.1
  Net punt average............         37.3         32.4
TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME.......        31:43        28:17
3RD-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........       64/179       78/219
  3rd-Down Pct................          36%          36%
4TH-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........        12/18        11/27
  4th-Down Pct................          67%          41%
SACKS BY-YARDS................       40-227       32-167
MISC YARDS....................           24           58
TOUCHDOWNS SCORED.............           48           19
FIELD GOALS-ATTEMPTS..........        25-28        17-25
PAT-ATTEMPTS..................        45-46        16-17
ATTENDANCE....................       827904       313597
  Games/Avg Per Game..........     8/103488      5/62719

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  OT     Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Ohio State..........   75  112  120   82   21  -   410
Opponents...........   59   53   31   33    7  -   183


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Looks like a pretty balanced attack to me.  Definately liked to run the ball, but threw it well when they needed to.  Look at the NC game for verification of that.  They won by throwing the ball.  The real key was their defense.  OSU only gave up 183 points all year.  Sorry if I wrecked your whole argument and all...but facts is facts.

[cardinalhawg]

Mitch needs to be in the Shotgun. Much more comfortable there.

I understand that he might be better and more comfortable in the shotun, as well as running the NUNH, but wouldn't most agree that he has to learn how to play under center sooner or later.  If he plays on Sundays, then he will most likely be playing under center most of the time, and Dick has made the adjustment after having played in the shotgun in high school.  I would like to see the HUNH and Spread more as well, but to be a great QB, it is best he learn how to play well, whether under center, out of the shotgun, or out of the huddle or no huddle.  I remember hearing Mustain asked the question on DTS after he recommitted to the Hogs about playing under center some, and he said that he would like to.

[Hong Kong Sooey]

Anyone got that shaved head kid crying pic?  I think my last post deserves it.

[golfballgreg]

I have to give the coaching staff (whether it be Gus or Nutt) props for pulling MM when they did. I like Mustain and I know that he's going to be a HUGE factor in the Arkansas football team for a few years. However, pulling him did many things..
1. It reaffirmed to the team and to us fans that we have a VERY able backup QB.
2. It kept Mitchell from having a COMPLETELY terrible day....I would think (and I'm just speaking for myself here) that being pulled from the game is far less damaging than being left in and continuing to flounder. Mitchell is such a competitor that he's going to see that as a challenge to get better than he already is.
3. It proved that our coaching staff has maybe come to the point that we are no longer a team who "Plays not to lose"...if winning means pulling Mitchell and putting in Casey, then so be it. They are looking at the Hogs as a TEAM unit...not something to the effect of "The Matt Jones show"...Don't flame me for that, btw....I LOVED Matt Jones.

I actually believe they were trying to send MM a message. He'd better start getting it done
or the hook will come quickly. 5-13 against a BAD D1AA team doesn't bode well for MM and
it worries me.

EXACTLY......MM was sucking on Saturday against a high school defense.  Casey Dick did really well, and I think that sends a message to Mitchell that he had better play his best or we have a capable backup that will put him on the bench.  I think pulling him was the right thing to do so that he didn't make his bad day into a confindence killer.  BTW, I think Dick is good enough, that when given the chance, could be a great QB. And as much as I like MM.....as he IS the future of UA Football.....what has he really done other than keep us out of bad plays? 3 INT against ALA, 2 against VANDY???Hmmmm.  IMO if Nutt wasn't feeling the heat after the USC ass whoopin, MM would be wearing a red shirt and Dick would be the starter.

[1HourToHogville]

70% run attempts,  30% pass

[jbr01]

Couch hit the nail squarely on the head.
Where is this balanced offense HDN talked about the day Gus was hired ?
They win a big game with an unbalanced offense and suddenly they don't need to develop their freshman QB. Lets keep using him as a good hander offer.
They will pay for this down the road.
Sugar Bowl or Cotton Bowl. What is your goal ?

I couldnt agree more.  There will be a game in which the running game will freeze up and then the hogs will be done.

Name the last power running team to win the NC.  Your gonna go back pretty far and probably to Nebraska in 95.

Perfect chance was squandered to get MM some confidence and to work on the passing game.

Nebraska 1997.  But you have the right idea.

try ohio st. in 2002, maybe.  i seem to remember them running Maurice Clarett quite a bit.  and i further remember that Craig Krentzel wasn't much of downfield passer.

That's not too terribly far back.

but hey, I'd rather find something silly to whine about anyway. 

do a little further digging than your memory banks, it was not a run oriented offense that won that NC.


Pulled out...

If you could please:  http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/010303aaa.html

Then get back to me.  I'll be more than happy to highlight it for you-

Ohio State rushed 52 (yes, that is 52 times) out of a possible 73 plays in that national championship game against miami.  I'm not that good at math, but I do know thats more than a 70% clip of running.

Why don't you inform me as to what you think constitutes a "run-oriented offense".

I look forward to your response.

Ohio State
Cumulative Season Statistics
Team Statistics
Individual Statistics
Defensive Statistics

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Overall Team Statistics
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                            2002 Ohio State Football
            Ohio State Overall Team Statistics (as of Jan 10, 2003)
                                   All games

TEAM STATISTICS                         OSU          OPP
--------------------------------------------------------
SCORING.......................          410          183
  Points Per Game.............         29.3         13.1
FIRST DOWNS...................          245          243
  Rushing.....................          133           72
  Passing.....................          106          155
  Penalty.....................            6           16
RUSHING YARDAGE...............         2678          1088
  Yards gained rushing........         3000         1481
  Yards lost rushing..........          322          393
  Rushing Attempts............          629          418
  Average Per Rush............          4.3          2.6
  Average Per Game............        191.3         77.7
  TDs Rushing.................           31            5
PASSING YARDAGE...............         2425         3404
  Att-Comp-Int................    280-173-7   546-315-18
  Average Per Pass............          8.7          6.2
  Average Per Catch...........         14.0         10.8
  Average Per Game............        173.2        243.1
  TDs Passing.................           14           14
TOTAL OFFENSE.................         5103         4492
  Total Plays.................          909          964
  Average Per Play............          5.6          4.7
  Average Per Game............        364.5        320.9
KICK RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       37-747       33-711
PUNT RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       43-358       33-423
INT RETURNS: #-YARDS..........       18-199         7-87
KICK RETURN AVERAGE...........         20.2         21.5
PUNT RETURN AVERAGE...........          8.3         12.8
INT RETURN AVERAGE............         11.1         12.4
FUMBLES-LOST..................        17-10        20-12
PENALTIES-YARDS...............       76-571       66-561
  Average Per Game............         40.8         40.1
PUNTS-YARDS...................      61-2697      76-2821
  Average Per Punt............         44.2         37.1
  Net punt average............         37.3         32.4
TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME.......        31:43        28:17
3RD-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........       64/179       78/219
  3rd-Down Pct................          36%          36%
4TH-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........        12/18        11/27
  4th-Down Pct................          67%          41%
SACKS BY-YARDS................       40-227       32-167
MISC YARDS....................           24           58
TOUCHDOWNS SCORED.............           48           19
FIELD GOALS-ATTEMPTS..........        25-28        17-25
PAT-ATTEMPTS..................        45-46        16-17
ATTENDANCE....................       827904       313597
  Games/Avg Per Game..........     8/103488      5/62719

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  OT     Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Ohio State..........   75  112  120   82   21  -   410
Opponents...........   59   53   31   33    7  -   183


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Looks like a pretty balanced attack to me.  Definately liked to run the ball, but threw it well when they needed to.  Look at the NC game for verification of that.  They won by throwing the ball.  The real key was their defense.  OSU only gave up 183 points all year.  Sorry if I wrecked your whole argument and all...but facts is facts.

You're looking at the wrong statistics, fella. 

Those were very impressive stats my friend, now why don't you do a little more research, and check out the total rushing attempts, and then compare that to the total passing attempts.  I think you'll be surprised.

Yes, they did pass the ball better than we are right now, but that's not the argument we're talking about. 

They ran the ball 70% of their plays throughout the whole season.  I'd say that's pretty dadgum run-oriented. 

Your "facts" astound me, teacher.

As you were.

[ErieHog]

On a slightly less-serious, and humorous note:  since when did we start taking Tim Couch's advice for anything?  Did he ever win anything?   Heck,  I believe his best Kentucky team won 7 games.

[ErieHog]

On a slightly less-serious, and humorous note:  since when did we start taking Tim Couch's advice for anything?  Did he ever win anything?   Heck,  I believe his best Kentucky team won 7 games.

Exactly. Next we're gonna see Ryan Leaf with Mel Kiper on draft day.

They would have Tony Mandarich too, but aparently, the set wasn't big enough.

[Nutts and Bolts]

Tim Couch = Crybaby and loser

why don't you compare bank accounts and then see who is the loser

-57 and counting

Agree... Couch was right on

[bigal]

Mike makes a great point, these kinds of games like Saturday are the times that you work on your weakness. We are not growing and expanding our offense.

[Nashville Fan]

If MM or DMAC had gotten hurt, I wonder what the threads would have said? I am sure glad that MM was working on his passing game. Sure glad DMAC got 100 before he went down.

[PulledPork]

Couch hit the nail squarely on the head.
Where is this balanced offense HDN talked about the day Gus was hired ?
They win a big game with an unbalanced offense and suddenly they don't need to develop their freshman QB. Lets keep using him as a good hander offer.
They will pay for this down the road.
Sugar Bowl or Cotton Bowl. What is your goal ?

I couldnt agree more.  There will be a game in which the running game will freeze up and then the hogs will be done.

Name the last power running team to win the NC.  Your gonna go back pretty far and probably to Nebraska in 95.

Perfect chance was squandered to get MM some confidence and to work on the passing game.

Nebraska 1997.  But you have the right idea.

try ohio st. in 2002, maybe.  i seem to remember them running Maurice Clarett quite a bit.  and i further remember that Craig Krentzel wasn't much of downfield passer.

That's not too terribly far back.

but hey, I'd rather find something silly to whine about anyway. 

do a little further digging than your memory banks, it was not a run oriented offense that won that NC.


Pulled out...

If you could please:  http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/010303aaa.html

Then get back to me.  I'll be more than happy to highlight it for you-

Ohio State rushed 52 (yes, that is 52 times) out of a possible 73 plays in that national championship game against miami.  I'm not that good at math, but I do know thats more than a 70% clip of running.

Why don't you inform me as to what you think constitutes a "run-oriented offense".

I look forward to your response.

Ohio State
Cumulative Season Statistics
Team Statistics
Individual Statistics
Defensive Statistics

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Overall Team Statistics
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                            2002 Ohio State Football
            Ohio State Overall Team Statistics (as of Jan 10, 2003)
                                   All games

TEAM STATISTICS                         OSU          OPP
--------------------------------------------------------
SCORING.......................          410          183
  Points Per Game.............         29.3         13.1
FIRST DOWNS...................          245          243
  Rushing.....................          133           72
  Passing.....................          106          155
  Penalty.....................            6           16
RUSHING YARDAGE...............         2678          1088
  Yards gained rushing........         3000         1481
  Yards lost rushing..........          322          393
  Rushing Attempts............          629          418
  Average Per Rush............          4.3          2.6
  Average Per Game............        191.3         77.7
  TDs Rushing.................           31            5
PASSING YARDAGE...............         2425         3404
  Att-Comp-Int................    280-173-7   546-315-18
  Average Per Pass............          8.7          6.2
  Average Per Catch...........         14.0         10.8
  Average Per Game............        173.2        243.1
  TDs Passing.................           14           14
TOTAL OFFENSE.................         5103         4492
  Total Plays.................          909          964
  Average Per Play............          5.6          4.7
  Average Per Game............        364.5        320.9
KICK RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       37-747       33-711
PUNT RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       43-358       33-423
INT RETURNS: #-YARDS..........       18-199         7-87
KICK RETURN AVERAGE...........         20.2         21.5
PUNT RETURN AVERAGE...........          8.3         12.8
INT RETURN AVERAGE............         11.1         12.4
FUMBLES-LOST..................        17-10        20-12
PENALTIES-YARDS...............       76-571       66-561
  Average Per Game............         40.8         40.1
PUNTS-YARDS...................      61-2697      76-2821
  Average Per Punt............         44.2         37.1
  Net punt average............         37.3         32.4
TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME.......        31:43        28:17
3RD-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........       64/179       78/219
  3rd-Down Pct................          36%          36%
4TH-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........        12/18        11/27
  4th-Down Pct................          67%          41%
SACKS BY-YARDS................       40-227       32-167
MISC YARDS....................           24           58
TOUCHDOWNS SCORED.............           48           19
FIELD GOALS-ATTEMPTS..........        25-28        17-25
PAT-ATTEMPTS..................        45-46        16-17
ATTENDANCE....................       827904       313597
  Games/Avg Per Game..........     8/103488      5/62719

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  OT     Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Ohio State..........   75  112  120   82   21  -   410
Opponents...........   59   53   31   33    7  -   183


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Looks like a pretty balanced attack to me.  Definately liked to run the ball, but threw it well when they needed to.  Look at the NC game for verification of that.  They won by throwing the ball.  The real key was their defense.  OSU only gave up 183 points all year.  Sorry if I wrecked your whole argument and all...but facts is facts.

You're looking at the wrong statistics, fella. 

Those were very impressive stats my friend, now why don't you do a little more research, and check out the total rushing attempts, and then compare that to the total passing attempts.  I think you'll be surprised.

Yes, they did pass the ball better than we are right now, but that's not the argument we're talking about. 

They ran the ball 70% of their plays throughout the whole season.  I'd say that's pretty dadgum run-oriented. 

Your "facts" astound me, teacher.

As you were.

as we have said before, you prove your point, we already have....


Pulled out....

[DeltaBoy]

Tim Couch, an analyst on CSTV said this:

"I think Arkansas is a very good team, but I still have questions about the QB position. They don't ask Mitch Mustain to do a whole lot. Today, he only threw 13 passes. This was a game against SEMO and with him being a freshman QB in this league it could've been a big confidence builder for him, come out and throw for 350 yards, give the guy some confidence and let him go out and throw three touchdowns, let him have a big day. It could have been a springboard into next week."

Dont worry. He's going to throw for 350 yds and 3 touchdowns against Ole Piss. Mark my word. WPS

I agree with Tim Coach on this game and I hope he does T-off on ULM and Ole Piss.

[Hong Kong Sooey]

Couch hit the nail squarely on the head.
Where is this balanced offense HDN talked about the day Gus was hired ?
They win a big game with an unbalanced offense and suddenly they don't need to develop their freshman QB. Lets keep using him as a good hander offer.
They will pay for this down the road.
Sugar Bowl or Cotton Bowl. What is your goal ?

I couldnt agree more.  There will be a game in which the running game will freeze up and then the hogs will be done.

Name the last power running team to win the NC.  Your gonna go back pretty far and probably to Nebraska in 95.

Perfect chance was squandered to get MM some confidence and to work on the passing game.

Nebraska 1997.  But you have the right idea.

try ohio st. in 2002, maybe.  i seem to remember them running Maurice Clarett quite a bit.  and i further remember that Craig Krentzel wasn't much of downfield passer.

That's not too terribly far back.

but hey, I'd rather find something silly to whine about anyway. 

do a little further digging than your memory banks, it was not a run oriented offense that won that NC.


Pulled out...

If you could please:  http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/010303aaa.html

Then get back to me.  I'll be more than happy to highlight it for you-

Ohio State rushed 52 (yes, that is 52 times) out of a possible 73 plays in that national championship game against miami.  I'm not that good at math, but I do know thats more than a 70% clip of running.

Why don't you inform me as to what you think constitutes a "run-oriented offense".

I look forward to your response.

Ohio State
Cumulative Season Statistics
Team Statistics
Individual Statistics
Defensive Statistics

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Overall Team Statistics
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                            2002 Ohio State Football
            Ohio State Overall Team Statistics (as of Jan 10, 2003)
                                   All games

TEAM STATISTICS                         OSU          OPP
--------------------------------------------------------
SCORING.......................          410          183
  Points Per Game.............         29.3         13.1
FIRST DOWNS...................          245          243
  Rushing.....................          133           72
  Passing.....................          106          155
  Penalty.....................            6           16
RUSHING YARDAGE...............         2678          1088
  Yards gained rushing........         3000         1481
  Yards lost rushing..........          322          393
  Rushing Attempts............          629          418
  Average Per Rush............          4.3          2.6
  Average Per Game............        191.3         77.7
  TDs Rushing.................           31            5
PASSING YARDAGE...............         2425         3404
  Att-Comp-Int................    280-173-7   546-315-18
  Average Per Pass............          8.7          6.2
  Average Per Catch...........         14.0         10.8
  Average Per Game............        173.2        243.1
  TDs Passing.................           14           14
TOTAL OFFENSE.................         5103         4492
  Total Plays.................          909          964
  Average Per Play............          5.6          4.7
  Average Per Game............        364.5        320.9
KICK RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       37-747       33-711
PUNT RETURNS: #-YARDS.........       43-358       33-423
INT RETURNS: #-YARDS..........       18-199         7-87
KICK RETURN AVERAGE...........         20.2         21.5
PUNT RETURN AVERAGE...........          8.3         12.8
INT RETURN AVERAGE............         11.1         12.4
FUMBLES-LOST..................        17-10        20-12
PENALTIES-YARDS...............       76-571       66-561
  Average Per Game............         40.8         40.1
PUNTS-YARDS...................      61-2697      76-2821
  Average Per Punt............         44.2         37.1
  Net punt average............         37.3         32.4
TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME.......        31:43        28:17
3RD-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........       64/179       78/219
  3rd-Down Pct................          36%          36%
4TH-DOWN CONVERSIONS..........        12/18        11/27
  4th-Down Pct................          67%          41%
SACKS BY-YARDS................       40-227       32-167
MISC YARDS....................           24           58
TOUCHDOWNS SCORED.............           48           19
FIELD GOALS-ATTEMPTS..........        25-28        17-25
PAT-ATTEMPTS..................        45-46        16-17
ATTENDANCE....................       827904       313597
  Games/Avg Per Game..........     8/103488      5/62719

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  OT     Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Ohio State..........   75  112  120   82   21  -   410
Opponents...........   59   53   31   33    7  -   183


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Looks like a pretty balanced attack to me.  Definately liked to run the ball, but threw it well when they needed to.  Look at the NC game for verification of that.  They won by throwing the ball.  The real key was their defense.  OSU only gave up 183 points all year.  Sorry if I wrecked your whole argument and all...but facts is facts.

You're looking at the wrong statistics, fella. 

Those were very impressive stats my friend, now why don't you do a little more research, and check out the total rushing attempts, and then compare that to the total passing attempts.  I think you'll be surprised.

Yes, they did pass the ball better than we are right now, but that's not the argument we're talking about. 

They ran the ball 70% of their plays throughout the whole season.  I'd say that's pretty dadgum run-oriented. 

Your "facts" astound me, teacher.

As you were.

See, you are mistaking attempts for a useful number.  What exactly do you get for an attempt, anyway?  The key to winning football is first downs.  Yeah, I know, points determine the winner.  But, more often than not, the team with the most first downs scores the most points (offensive points).  Look at OSU's first downs gained by running (133) vs throwing (106).  Now, I'm no math major, but 133 first downs in 629 attempts doesn't look as good as 106 first downs in 280 attempts.  This stat tells me (and anyone else who wants to look objectively) that OSU had a very efficient passing game.  Accounting for almost half of the teams first downs in less than 1/3 of the snaps seems efficient to me, does it to you?  This is called "balance".  OSU in 2002 used the run to set up the pass.  Of that there can be no doubt.  But, to call OSU a "run oriented" team is simply not backed up by the numbers.  Even in the NC game, the passing game won them the game.

[TDHog]

I have to give the coaching staff (whether it be Gus or Nutt) props for pulling MM when they did. I like Mustain and I know that he's going to be a HUGE factor in the Arkansas football team for a few years. However, pulling him did many things..
1. It reaffirmed to the team and to us fans that we have a VERY able backup QB.
2. It kept Mitchell from having a COMPLETELY terrible day....I would think (and I'm just speaking for myself here) that being pulled from the game is far less damaging than being left in and continuing to flounder. Mitchell is such a competitor that he's going to see that as a challenge to get better than he already is.
3. It proved that our coaching staff has maybe come to the point that we are no longer a team who "Plays not to lose"...if winning means pulling Mitchell and putting in Casey, then so be it. They are looking at the Hogs as a TEAM unit...not something to the effect of "The Matt Jones show"...Don't flame me for that, btw....I LOVED Matt Jones.

I actually believe they were trying to send MM a message. He'd better start getting it done
or the hook will come quickly. 5-13 against a BAD D1AA team doesn't bode well for MM and
it worries me.

It was very obvious that Casey got a lot more 4-wide, quick-slants, crossing patterns from the shotgun type plays/formations. The vast majority of Mitch's pass plays came from 2 receiver sets with him under center. Not very conducive to him being successful passing. When they alternated in the 3rd quarter, Casey used these formations and when Mitch was in he was put under center in the I formation. What type of message was suppossed to be sent? That we are not going to put you in formations that give you a better chance to succeed passing the ball.

I was at the game and I totally disagree. MM was in the one back spread most of the time
and most of the time in the shotgun.

Wrong, you must have watched the wrong game.

[PulledPork]

GUVHHOG tends to see only what he wants to see and then misreports the rest.....


Pulled out...

[1stwordswerewoopig]

For all you guys putting down MM performance, and I know you were there Guv cause of an earlier post.  What throws were asked of MM?  I was there, and I watched him in HS some.

Most of the throws he was asked to make yesterday were outs and screens.  Only one of his throws were down field.  No,0, throws over the middle or to TE.  NO tunnel screens, posts or flies.  These are his strengths and he was not allowed or asked for that .  The couple of times I thought he was going to air it out, in came a safety or corner blitz.  Most of the time he had 2 receivers.  This is not his strength.  Til the passing game goes to his strengths he will struggle some.  HE IS ONLY IN HIS 6th GAME with only 10 WEEKS OF COLLEGE EXPERIENCE.  He will get better as the game plan comes to his strength.

Doesn't Gus know his strengths at least as well as you?  MM was having an off day...again.