Norvell/Campbell/Frost bigger risks than Bielema was.

[Michael_E_Davis]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

The difference between "Was" and "Is" is exactly why your point is moot.

[Marshfieldhog]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

Looks like Alvarez had as much to do at UW as Bert did. Notice they didn't really miss a beat.

[Porkchop#1]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

For the same reason no one ever pointed a telescope at the sun.

[MissippHog]

With great risks come great rewards.  Think I may coin that phrase.  Truth is, there is no way of knowing if it will work out or not.  Whether they are a proven coach, a defensive minded coach, an offensive guru, a CEO type coach, a hot up and comer, etc.  None of us know who can come here and be successful.  That being said, it's easy to see what isn't working. 

Do your homework if you want to know about "X" coach.  Every weekend you can watch their teams play.  There are plenty of articles detailing their philosophies.  Plenty of material out there to form your own opinion on who you think would do well here. 

[EastTNHog]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

Who would you like to see replace CBB? Any of the three above would be an upgrade.

[radar]

There were a lot of factors involved in his success at Wisconsin that were not connected to his abilities as a head coach. I have always liked the idea of young coaches moving up with the something to prove attitude.

[mckinneyhog5]

Looks like Alvarez had as much to do at UW as Bert did. Notice they didn't really miss a beat.

Nope, BB achieved better results then Alvarez did after he took over.

[mckinneyhog5]

There were a lot of factors involved in his success at Wisconsin that were not connected to his abilities as a head coach. I have always liked the idea of young coaches moving up with the something to prove attitude.

They also fail more than they succeed.

[hogcam]

Look at Wisconsin now and every year after he left. Coach B had nothing to do with Wisconsin.

[mckinneyhog5]

Look at Wisconsin now and every year after he left. Coach B had nothing to do with Wisconsin.

Why don't you go look and get back with me and tell me what year did the coaches after BB exceed him.

[Marshfieldhog]

Why don't you go look and get back with me and tell me what year did the coaches after BB exceed him.

Big 10 got a lot tougher after he left. CBB feasted on a very weak Big 10

[Jzilla]

Bielema had a bowl record of 2-5, since he left they are 3-1. They have 41 wins in the 4 full seasons since he has left as well as being a top 5 undefeated team this season as well. It can be said that he actually underachieved compared to what his replacements have done.

[Pork Twain]

The difference between "Was" and "Is" is exactly why your point is moot.

That makes absolutely zero sense from a strategic standpoint.

[Pork Twain]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

From the HDN/JFB days, a new coach or a new AD is like the 2nd string qb for many of these guys.

[Hogcore]

Bielema had a bowl record of 2-5, since he left they are 3-1. They have 41 wins in the 4 full seasons since he has left as well as being a top 5 undefeated team this season as well. It can be said that he actually underachieved compared to what his replacements have done.

This.

[Torqued pork]

Bielema's resume was easily more impressive at the time of his hiring than any coach we ever hired with the possible exception of Danny Ford, but his resume hasn't done anything for him here.

Meanwhile,  coaches who brought less impressive credentials had success Bielema hasn't sniffed in his five years here.

There are strengths and weaknesses that can't be seen on paper. Frank Broyles was good at sensing them.. Long hasn't proved anything in this regard.

[husker71]

I dont know if any of the 3 would come here.  Best chance would be Norvell but Campbell and Frost are probably not interested in us at the moment.

[twistitup]

Doesn't matter- CBB has failed

[Bacons Rebellion]

Stocks are riskier than CDs. Let's all check our 401Ks.

[Boarcephus]

Looks like Alvarez had as much to do at UW as Bert did. Notice they didn't really miss a beat.

Exactly.  Bielema is one of those guys who was born on 3rd base but woke up thinking he had a hit triple. 

[BR]

Nope, BB achieved better results then Alvarez did after he took over.

Barry Alvarez 1990–2005
118–73–4  conf 65–60–3  Big Ten Titles 1993, 1998, 1999 Bowls 11 Bowl Record 8–3


Bret Bielema 2006–2012
68–24  Conf: 37–19   Big Ten Titles 2010, 2011, 2012 Bowls 6 Bowl Record 2–4 Never won Rose Bowl..........

[jkstock04]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

I bet you were drunk when you posted this.

[twistitup]

CBB looks back on Whisky and cries...he had it good

Karma is a bitch

[BR]

CBB looks back on Whisky and cries...he had it good

Karma is a bitch

Yep, ask his wife Jen...  https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/15/4732470/jen-bielema-twitter-karma-wisconsin

[Boarcephus]

Barry Alvarez 1990–2005
118–73–4  conf 65–60–3  Big Ten Titles 1993, 1998, 1999 Bowls 11 Bowl Record 8–3


Bret Bielema 2006–2012
68–24  Conf: 37–19   Big Ten Titles 2010, 2011, 2012 Bowls 6 Bowl Record 2–4 Never won Rose Bowl..........

 

[havok]

Who ever is our future coach.. he needs to be a good fit for the program.

For a coach to succeed, he needs to be a good fit.  Kinda Like Charlie Strong's situation at Texas. He is a damn good coach, but Texas just seemed like he never fit, thus had less than stellar career there.

I really thought Bielema would be a good fit and seemed to be his first few years.  One who would always have a one of the strongest/best offensive line, but unlike Nutt would actually augment the Running game with a real passing game, (Not just be all talk).  Plus unlike Petrino, would not totally ignore the defense..

Unfortunately, it appears Bielema was just a guy who can ride the coat-tails of a predecessor and not build a program from ground up.

[parallaxpig]

Who ever is our future coach.. he needs to be a good fit for the program.

For a coach to succeed, he needs to be a good fit.  Kinda Like Charlie Strong's situation at Texas. He is a damn good coach, but Texas just seemed like he never fit, thus had less than stellar career there.

I really thought Bielema would be a good fit and seemed to be his first few years.  One who would always have a one of the strongest/best offensive line, but unlike Nutt would actually augment the Running game with a real passing game, (Not just be all talk).  Plus unlike Petrino, would not totally ignore the defense..

Unfortunately, it appears Bielema was just a guy who can ride the coat-tails of a predecessor and not build a program from ground up.

The next successful coach at Arkansas will recruit Texas well. That's the key to success at Arkansas....always has been. If you doubt that pull up OK and OK Lite rosters..........

[havok]

The next successful coach at Arkansas will recruit Texas well. That's the key to success at Arkansas....always has been. If you doubt that pull up OK and OK Lite rosters..........

I'm in my 50's and know for a fact you are right.  The heart of the Hawg success has always been, getting the best out of the state of Ark, and plucking a nice number of recruits form Texas..especially the Dallas/Houston area.  Bielema missed a great opportunity in last 5 or so years... when Texas was going downward, Texas A&M was having yearly collapses in 2nd half of the seasons.. to really get down there and start building deep pipelines to the best schools.   But decided to focus too much time and energy in Florida or other states.

[The_Iceman]

Why isn't Chad Morris on the list with these 3?

[King Kong]

Big 10 got a lot tougher after he left. CBB feasted on a very weak Big 10

Michigan State had Kirk Cousins and Levon Bell. That's a top 10 NFL QB and the best RB in the NFL.Not as weak as one would suggest at the top. OSU only had one down year during the time.

Michigan and Penn State are better now.

Big 10 bottom still sucks as now as it did then.

[rljjr]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

Bigger risk, bigger reward. We have always taken the SAFE path. Where has that gotten us? Go for broke and roll the dice. Why not? There is literally nothing to lose.

[Broadway Rob]

The difference between "Was" and "Is" is exactly why your point is moot.

Mic drop

[parallaxpig]

I'm in my 50's and know for a fact you are right.  The heart of the Hawg success has always been, getting the best out of the state of Ark, and plucking a nice number of recruits form Texas..especially the Dallas/Houston area.  Bielema missed a great opportunity in last 5 or so years... when Texas was going downward, Texas A&M was having yearly collapses in 2nd half of the seasons.. to really get down there and start building deep pipelines to the best schools.   But decided to focus too much time and energy in Florida or other states.

Exactly, plus add to the fact that every year 20% plus of incoming freshmen class is from Texas. Personally I would try to schedule a home/home every year with TCU, Houston and SMU to keep 1-2 games in Texas every year. We have a large recruiting advantage in Dallas Metro area that we don't exploit.

[theFlyingHog]

Michigan State had Kirk Cousins and Levon Bell. That's a top 10 NFL QB and the best RB in the NFL.Not as weak as one would suggest at the top. OSU only had one down year during the time.

Michigan and Penn State are better now.

Big 10 bottom still sucks as now as it did then.

Did you really just base your argument on one team having two players?

[hog911]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

Bielema took over a program already built at Wisconsin! He has NEVER built a program from stratch. In hindsight there are many things wrong with hiring Bielema.

[Hawghiggs]

Why isn't Chad Morris on the list with these 3?

I don't know. He probably should be #1 on the list.

[King Kong]

Did you really just base your argument on one team having two players?

Those 2 players are better than any 2 offensive players SEC has put out in 10 years

And OSU was only down one year

[Captain Morgan]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

Quit bringing up Wisconsin. They may play in the weakest division in the Power 5. Their big game every year is Iowa.... They were the most overrated program when he was there and they certainly are today. Arkansas could win 9 games in the B1G west.

[parallaxpig]

Quit bringing up Wisconsin. They may play in the weakest division in the Power 5. Their big game every year is Iowa.... They were the most overrated program when he was there and they certainly are today. Arkansas could win 9 games in the B1G west.

Take a look at CFB playoff ranking to see how much respect they get if you need more validation on how weak a schedule they play.

[MissippHog]

Those 2 players are better than any 2 offensive players SEC has put out in 10 years

And OSU was only down one year

Dak?  Gurley?  Julio?  AJ Green?  Cam?  Fournette?  Hell, now that AC is getting more PT he's putting up better numbers than Bell. 

[jgphillips3]

The OP sounds like this to me:

"Hey, I have this expensive brand name car I bought but it is a broken down total piece of S*@t.  About half the time, it breaks down on the side of the road.  Well sir, we have these three newer models that are less expensive, newer, have shown good preliminary reliability and have better features.  No thanks, I'll just keep my broken down piece of S*@t rather than take a chance on a new car.  At least it's a brand name."

[Pork Twain]

Mic drop

Again, completely inaccurate.  The hire back then was not made knowing what we know now.  Based on the facts and coaching records that were present at the time of the hire, CBB appeared to be very qualified, much more so than the guys people are getting excited about today, me included.  Obviously now we all know that was a failure.  Hindsight and all that. 

[ChicoHog]

Again, completely inaccurate.  The hire back then was not made knowing what we know now.  Based on the facts and coaching records that were present at the time of the hire, CBB appeared to be very qualified, much more so than the guys people are getting excited about today, me included.  Obviously now we all know that was a failure.  Hindsight and all that. 

That makes way too much sense for Hogville. 

[Locutus_of_Boar]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

The only other Arkansas coach to lead his team to an undefeated season is also the only Arkansas coach to have ever coached an Arkansas team in Wisconsin.  Like Harold Ramis in "Stipoes" he got the $*** kicked out of him in Wisconsin 0-54 but he won 69% of his games in Arkansas for 5 years and ended up the long time coach at Penn State for decades and in the college football hall of fame.

So all the available coaching evidence suggests there is no correlation whatsoever between what goes on in cheese-head land and what happens in Fayettenam and the SEC.

[Cinco de Hogo]

That makes absolutely zero sense from a strategic standpoint.

Really?  So your going to fight a war and your going to base your strategy on factors that "was" vs factors that "is"?  Even in the B10 the factors from CBB era are not the factors of today.  Plus the factors of the CBB era at Wisky sure as shooting didn't exist in the SEC.

[Hogwild]

CBB looks back on Whisky and cries...he had it good

Karma is a bitch

What is Wisconsin's record since that Karma tweet?
What is Arkansas' record since that Karma tweet?

[HogPharmer]

I bet you were drunk when you posted this.

He posts this garbage literally every single day... So, at this point, he must have a drinking problem.

[Quickdraw]

I would like for one of the people who are blowing the Mike Norvell/Campbell/Frost horn to please explain to me what makes you think they will succeed here at Arkansas?  None of them put together even come close to accomplishing what Bielema did at Wisconsin in the much tougher Big Ten conference.  So, please enlighten me,  what have these coaches done to make you think they can win in the grinder known as the SEC?

no one really knows if they will be successful or not. What I can tell you is these guys have to work with minimum talent from these little schools and compete quite well against the P5 schools they have scheduled. I think the reason they are successful is they understand how to get an average athlete to compete to their maximum ability by getting them to believe they can play with anyone in any conference therefore resulting in them achieving great success. And if they come to Arkansas it is expected we will see the same results with a little bit better talent. Just my opinion.

[Sho Nuff]

Campbell is a proven winner.  He got it done at Toledo and now at Iowa State.  Bielema had 1 stop and was the product of the system.  How can you even make the claim that Campbell is more risky than Bielema?!?!?!?