vandy vs. a&m

[gmarv]

what does vandys win over a&m mean to us. help, hurt, don,t matter. which ever thing it does I,m still glad they beat the ags.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

It helps assuming A&M and Vandy keep winning.

Of course we have to starting Winnng at a higher than .500 ball clip as well. Or these wins mean nothing

[The_Iceman]

what does vandys win over a&m mean to us. help, hurt, don,t matter. which ever thing it does I,m still glad they beat the ags.

We are 11-11. It doesn't mean much at all.

[TomBigBeeHog]

what does vandys win over a&m mean to us. help, hurt, don,t matter. which ever thing it does I,m still glad they beat the ags.

could give us another top 50 win.

[jry04]

It gives us another top 50 win.

We are 11-11. It doesn't mean much at all.

Doesn't surprise me that you think this, but the NIT matters to most fans this season.

[TomBigBeeHog]

It gives us another top 50 win.

Doesn't surprise me that you think this, but the NIT matters to most fans this season.

All fans want to see their team keep playing. I would watch even if it was a post season exhibition game against Arkansas Baptist. So for me the NIT would be great for the seniors, especially considering the challenges and storms they have weathered unique to this season.

Bell really caught a tough break. In the year that he stepped up and became a better all around player, we were a couple of key guys short. Also, would have been nice to have had the Bell of this year for last years team.

Hopefully, we will finish strong and this Vandy win will help us get into the NIT.

[The_Iceman]

It gives us another top 50 win.

Doesn't surprise me that you think this, but the NIT matters to most fans this season.

We were 19-13 in '12-'13 with a 10-8 SEC record. We had big home wins there as well. We didn't make the NIT that year.

I love that we beat a&m, I am going Saturday to hopefully see us beat Tennessee as well, but we really needed to pull off a few of these close SEC road games to get us into the NIT mix. Those would do much more for us than a home win, even against a big name team.

Making the NIT means a lot to me, I've stated that Mike making the NIT this year would be a good season for him. But we need to do a lot more than beating a&m at home.

[jry04]

We were 19-13 in '12-'13 with a 10-8 SEC record. We had big home wins there as well. We didn't make the NIT that year.

I love that we beat a&m, I am going Saturday to hopefully see us beat Tennessee as well, but we really needed to pull off a few of these close SEC road games to get us into the NIT mix. Those would do much more for us than a home win, even against a big name team.

Making the NIT means a lot to me, I've stated that Mike making the NIT this year would be a good season for him. But we need to do a lot more than beating a&m at home.

I really don't get why people keep bringing up the 2012 season. You follow basketball quite a bit. We don't agree on much, but I recognize you are an intelligent poster. So why do you not understand that what happened that season is not the same as this season? Our RPI in 2012 at the time of the NIT selection was 99 and our SOS was around 95. Our current SOS this season is #12.

If we finish the season 17-14 our RPI is projected to be in the 85-90 range and our SOS would be top 50. If we finish 18-13 our RPI would be 75 with a top 50 SOS. Those numbers are drastically different from when we finished 19-12 with a 99 RPI and 90+ SOS in 2012-2013 season. Our non-conference strength of schedule is currently projected to finish top 30 in the country. A lot has to do with what happens in the 1 bid conference tournaments as to whether we make the NIT, too. However, I have said it many times in other threads, but if we go 19-12 this season we are a lock for the NIT, and have a chance to play our way in to the big dance with a few SECT wins. 19-12 would put us in the 60-65 RPI range with a top 50 SOS. Those are without a doubt NCAAT bubble team numbers, but probably on the wrong side of the bubble. With 5 home games left, and every road game winnable, I do not think it is a stretch to finish 17-14, go 1-1 in the SECT, and sneak in the NIT with a 18-15 record and RPI in the top 80 SOS in the top 40.

[The_Iceman]

I really don't get why people keep bringing up the 2012 season. You follow basketball quite a bit. We don't agree on much, but I recognize you are an intelligent poster. So why do you not understand that what happened that season is not the same as this season? Our RPI in 2012 at the time of the NIT selection was 99 and our SOS was around 95. Our current SOS this season is #12.

If we finish the season 17-14 our RPI is projected to be in the 85-90 range and our SOS would be top 50. If we finish 18-13 our RPI would be 75 with a top 50 SOS. Those numbers are drastically different from when we finished 19-12 with a 99 RPI and 90+ SOS in 2012-2013 season. Our non-conference strength of schedule is currently projected to finish top 30 in the country. A lot has to do with what happens in the 1 bid conference tournaments as to whether we make the NIT, too. However, I have said it many times in other threads, but if we go 19-12 this season we are a lock for the NIT, and have a chance to play our way in to the big dance with a few SECT wins. 19-12 would put us in the 60-65 RPI range with a top 50 SOS. Those are without a doubt NCAAT bubble team numbers, but probably on the wrong side of the bubble. With 5 home games left, and every road game winnable, I do not think it is a stretch to finish 17-14, go 1-1 in the SECT, and sneak in the NIT with a 18-15 record and RPI in the top 80 SOS in the top 40.

You have to win road games. The selection committees have made that an emphasis. All I'm saying is a win vs. Florida would have done more for us that the home win vs. a&m. We need to get 2 of our last 4 road games, plus maybe one in the SECT to have a chance at the NIT.

[jry04]

You have to win road games. The selection committees have made that an emphasis. All I'm saying is a win vs. Florida would have done more for us that the home win vs. a&m. We need to get 2 of our last 4 road games, plus maybe one in the SECT to have a chance at the NIT.

I agree you have to win road games, but if we finish 17-14, then we are guaranteed at least 1 road win. 18-13 at least 2 more. That would be 2 or 3 for the season. Not great, but that is what NIT teams are. You think the other NIT teams we are competing with have a bunch of road wins? No, they don't because they are NIT teams. That is usually what differentiates teams from making the NCAAT or the NIT.

[TomBigBeeHog]

It helps assuming A&M and Vandy keep winning.

Of course we have to starting Winnng at a higher than .500 ball clip as well. Or these wins mean nothing

Lets hope A&M and Vandy win out in conference and we win 7+ games to end the season.

[gmarv]

Lets hope A&M and Vandy win out in conference and we win 7+ games to end the season.

I don,t have a problem pulling for vandy but its gonna be hard to hope the aggies win anything.

[Atlhogfan1]

In terms of SECT, probably should have pulled for an A&M win.  Vandy is probably the team out of the top 6 the Hogs most likely could overtake in the standings if the Hogs take care of business at home and finish well.  Getting the 6th seed in the SECT means playing the 11-14 winner and then the 3 seed.  7 seed will play 10 then 2. 

[Danny J]

In terms of SECT, probably should have pulled for an A&M win.  Vandy is probably the team out of the top 6 the Hogs most likely could overtake in the standings if the Hogs take care of business at home and finish well.  Getting the 6th seed in the SECT means playing the 11-14 winner and then the 3 seed.  7 seed will play 10 then 2.

Did u take into account the changes to the SECt this year with mizzou not being eligible? I saw the new formula for this year only  but for the life of me I can't remember the specifics

[Atlhogfan1]

Did u take into account the changes to the SECt this year with mizzou not being eligible? I saw the new formula for this year only  but for the life of me I can't remember the specifics

No I didn't.  Didn't even think about Mizzou.  I'll have to look up what they are doing.  Should just make it 6 vs 11 and 5 plays winner of 12/13 game. 

Just checked.  Looks like that is how they are doing it.  5 vs 12/13 winner and 6 vs 11

[Atlhogfan1]

Current standings - (I haven't looked at tiebreakers)

#8 Texas A&M 7 – 2   .778     18 – 4   .818
LSU 7 – 2   .778     14 – 8   .636
#25 South Carolina 6 – 3   .667     19 – 3   .864
#20 Kentucky 6 – 3   .667     16 – 6   .727
Florida 6 – 3   .667     15 – 7   .682
Georgia 5 – 4   .556     12 – 8   .600
Vanderbilt 5 – 4   .556     13 – 9   .591
Ole Miss 4 – 5   .444     14 – 8   .636
Arkansas 4 – 5   .444     11 – 11   .500
Tennessee 4 – 5   .444     11 – 11   .500
Alabama 3 – 6   .333     12 – 9   .571
Auburn 3 – 6   .333     9 – 12   .429
Mississippi State 2 – 7   .222     9 – 12   .429
Missouri* 1 – 7   .125     8 – 13   .381


Schedule thoughts:

Vandy has trips to Florida and A&M left. 

UGa has road games left with Vandy, UK and SC.

Hogs have to go to OM which might be a game for SECT seeding.

OM's road schedule: at Fl, A&M, AU, UGa and Tenn


With 5 home games left, the Hogs schedule sets them up pretty well compared to some other potential middle of the pack teams if they can win the home games. 

[gmarv]

Current standings - (I haven't looked at tiebreakers)

#8 Texas A&M 7 – 2   .778     18 – 4   .818
LSU 7 – 2   .778     14 – 8   .636
#25 South Carolina 6 – 3   .667     19 – 3   .864
#20 Kentucky 6 – 3   .667     16 – 6   .727
Florida 6 – 3   .667     15 – 7   .682
Georgia 5 – 4   .556     12 – 8   .600
Vanderbilt 5 – 4   .556     13 – 9   .591
Ole Miss 4 – 5   .444     14 – 8   .636
Arkansas 4 – 5   .444     11 – 11   .500
Tennessee 4 – 5   .444     11 – 11   .500
Alabama 3 – 6   .333     12 – 9   .571
Auburn 3 – 6   .333     9 – 12   .429
Mississippi State 2 – 7   .222     9 – 12   .429
Missouri* 1 – 7   .125     8 – 13   .381


Schedule thoughts:

Vandy has trips to Florida and A&M left. 

UGa has road games left with Vandy, UK and SC.

Hogs have to go to OM which might be a game for SECT seeding.

OM's road schedule: at Fl, A&M, AU, UGa and Tenn


With 5 home games left, the Hogs schedule sets them up pretty well compared to some other potential middle of the pack teams if they can win the home games. 

that ole miss road schedule looks tough gonna be hard for them to win 2 of those most likely they get 1 or none.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Lets hope A&M and Vandy win out in conference and we win 7+ games to end the season.

That's what I'm hoping for