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Still think we can make the big dance.
« on: January 13, 2018, 06:03:21 pm »

Just have got to solve our road woes.









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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 06:05:21 pm »

Yeah, as an 8-12 seed which makes making to the 2nd round almost impossible.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2018, 06:09:26 pm »

It's more than road woes.
This team is capable of playing very good basketball - they are also capable of not showing up and stinking up the gym.
Depends on how bad they want it.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2018, 06:11:13 pm »

Yeah, as an 8-12 seed which makes making to the 2nd round almost impossible.

It does?
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 06:24:32 pm »

Yeah I do
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2018, 07:00:03 pm »

You have lost your mind. No friggin way we make the big dance. Lucky to make the NIT.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 07:24:42 pm »

Well itís like last year.   Make the tournament or find a new coach.  We have the talent to be in the tournament.  We donít get there then find a new coach. 
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2018, 07:31:14 pm »

If they keep Gafford involved, improve free throw shooting and learn to play as a team there are a lot of winnable games left.  Maconís three at the end of the game when Gafford had a guard on him could have been a killer.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2018, 07:39:14 pm »

Games like tonight is why I believe we make the dance...last year they found ways to win these type games and I believe they will again this year...it isn't coaching that is going to bring them wins rather it is just experience
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2018, 08:29:29 pm »

Sorry, no dance. I thought our senior guards were the strength of the team, but they are not. Beard is playing OK, but Barford and Macon are too selfish. Maconís foolish last shot should have lost us the game, but we got lucky. If they are auditioning for the NBA, they are wasting everyoneís season. Mark it down, those two will not play in the NBA...ever. If they have been convinced otherwise, I feel sorry for them. Unfortunately, we have very few options at guard. Jones is a basket case and Hall canít handle the ball. We go as far as our selfish senior guards take us, and thatís not too far.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2018, 09:37:26 pm »

9-9 SEC gets the Hogs in.  Had dinner plans so didnít watch tonight.  Good to see we got a win although only by 2 scoring 65pts at home not exactly inspiring.  Win 2 of next 3 and get back to .500 before Ok St. 
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 10:13:51 pm »

9-9 SEC gets the Hogs in.  Had dinner plans so didnít watch tonight.  Good to see we got a win although only by 2 scoring 65pts at home not exactly inspiring.  Win 2 of next 3 and get back to .500 before Ok St. 

Where are the other 7 SEC wins going to come from?  I see only 5 more SEC wins.

at Florida   Loss
Ole Miss   Win
at Georgia   Loss
at Texas A&M   Loss
at LSU   Loss
South Carolina   Win
Vanderbilt   Win
at Ole Miss   Loss
Texas A&M   Win
Kentucky   Loss
at Alabama   Win
Auburn   Loss
at Missouri   Loss
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2018, 10:27:03 pm »

Well itís like last year.   Make the tournament or find a new coach.  We have the talent to be in the tournament.  We donít get there then find a new coach.
then why have posters been saying this is a bad roster
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2018, 11:30:14 pm »

Where are the other 7 SEC wins going to come from?  I see only 5 more SEC wins.

at Florida   Loss
Ole Miss   Win
at Georgia   Loss
at Texas A&M   Loss
at LSU   Loss
South Carolina   Win
Vanderbilt   Win
at Ole Miss   Loss
Texas A&M   Win
Kentucky   Loss
at Alabama   Win
Auburn   Loss
at Missouri   Loss

If anybody could predict what the SEC standings would look like in March, they could retire in April.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2018, 11:33:02 pm »

Yeah, as an 8-12 seed which makes making to the 2nd round almost impossible.
Didnít Kentucky make it to the championship game as an 8 seed in 2014? Crack a book, bro.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2018, 11:35:12 pm »

We are in great shape concerning a bid even now.

Seeding, thatís a different story.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2018, 01:11:58 am »

Just have got to solve our road woes.

Lol wut?

ďStill think?Ē We weíre never out. Jesus people overreact.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2018, 01:30:38 am »

Didnít Kentucky make it to the championship game as an 8 seed in 2014? Crack a book, bro.
so Kentucky did it, then we should too. I see that logic. Read also where He said almost.  Not impossible. But you know we were better than a 9 last year. We catch a # 1 in the Second round. Odds are still on  the #1 to knock us out.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2018, 02:06:04 am »

You have lost your mind. No friggin way we make the big dance. Lucky to make the NIT.
  You need to stay with golfing.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2018, 02:21:43 am »

We still have a lot of basketball to be played, 14 games to be exact,  I don't see how anybody can predict who will win a game.  for example Ole Miss beat Florida tonight, some are saying we lose at Florida and win against Ole Miss.  Each game is different and it may come down to one play at the end determines a game, but that don't necessarily means the better team won.  This year there is so much parity anybody could beat anybody on any given night.  We were still strongly IN the tournament field before tonight's win. The SEC from top to bottom is the strongest I have seen since we joined the SEC
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2018, 06:39:58 am »

Can we for sure

Will we who the blank knows.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2018, 08:14:37 am »

Seems like we have seen this before,some giving us up for dead about this time last year.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2018, 08:37:09 am »

We still have a very good chance.. you could trace much of our problems to FT shooting.. we don't lose to MSU,  we are in the  Auburn game if we just shoot the % they did from the line ...and the one yesterday is not close, if we hit a decent %....

In another thread early in the year, I pointed to FT shooting as a potential problem and it's already bit us a couple times...
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2018, 11:38:32 am »

We still have a very good chance.. you could trace much of our problems to FT shooting.. we don't lose to MSU,  we are in the  Auburn game if we just shoot the % they did from the line ...and the one yesterday is not close, if we hit a decent %....

In another thread early in the year, I pointed to FT shooting as a potential problem and it's already bit us a couple times...
I think you are right.Seems like even Macon is struggling with FT.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2018, 11:49:15 am »

Games like tonight is why I believe we won't make the dance...last year they found ways to win these type games but when you blow an 18 point lead at home and need the opponent's best player to foul out to eek out a win, and I believe they will again collapse this year...it isn't is inferior coaching that is going to bring them wins losses rather it is than just experience
FIFY
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2018, 11:53:40 am »

Yeah, as an 8-12 seed which makes making to the 2nd round almost impossible.

So we did the impossible last season?
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2018, 01:14:02 pm »

FIFY
I don't need your damn help in saying what I believe and thank you for not putting words in my mouth. I truly believe that the team pulls it out and goes to the dance and goes about as far as we went last year ...I am no MA fan but he is what he is and he isn't going anywhere...all I hope for is that they go to the dance
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2018, 01:25:15 pm »

Remember that one time we started 1-3 in conference and went 12-3 down the stretch? Oh wait that was just last year?

If anything, it is far too early to think we won't make the dance, especially when we will be at least a 7 seed in brackets going into next week. 9-9 will get us in, 8-10 will put us on the bubble. We won 6 conference games on the road last year, we'll pick up a couple this year as well.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2018, 01:45:32 pm »

Remember that one time we started 1-3 in conference and went 12-3 down the stretch? Oh wait that was just last year?

If anything, it is far too early to think we won't make the dance, especially when we will be at least a 7 seed in brackets going into next week. 9-9 will get us in, 8-10 will put us on the bubble. We won 6 conference games on the road last year, we'll pick up a couple this year as well.

Arkansas is currently 10-2 in non-conference play with 1 Non-conference game (Okla State) remaining. going 9-9 in conference would give the Hogs 20 wins in regular season play and that isn't likely to be enough to get the Hogs in the Big dance. I believe they would also have to win a couple of games in the SEC Tournament games to get in with that record.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2018, 02:16:05 pm »

This team playing at their current level will not make it. Free throw percentage alone is enough to get us beat in games we won last year. Selfish guards shooting a lot, but not well, is another serious problem. We played great defense for half of the first half, but they cannot maintain that level for forty minutes. Mizzou came back when we got into our own legs and got sloppy. The depth at guard is lousy, so we are stuck with Macon and Barford trying to take over the game but failing miserably. This team just isnít that good.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2018, 02:23:20 pm »

Arkansas is currently 10-2 in non-conference play with 1 Non-conference game (Okla State) remaining. going 9-9 in conference would give the Hogs 20 wins in regular season play and that isn't likely to be enough to get the Hogs in the Big dance. I believe they would also have to win a couple of games in the SEC Tournament games to get in with that record.

Vandy made it in at 19-15 last year can their metrics were really good, so itís not impossible for us to make it in with 20 wins.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2018, 02:27:39 pm »

Sorry, no dance. I thought our senior guards were the strength of the team, but they are not. Beard is playing OK, but Barford and Macon are too selfish. Maconís foolish last shot should have lost us the game, but we got lucky. If they are auditioning for the NBA, they are wasting everyoneís season. Mark it down, those two will not play in the NBA...ever. If they have been convinced otherwise, I feel sorry for them. Unfortunately, we have very few options at guard. Jones is a basket case and Hall canít handle the ball. We go as far as our selfish senior guards take us, and thatís not too far.
Excellent post and spot on.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2018, 02:30:43 pm »

Well itís like last year.   Make the tournament or find a new coach.  We have the talent to be in the tournament.  We donít get there then find a new coach. 

We won't be looking for a new coach unfortunately, I knew when everyone was clamoring for Mike Anderson to be hired we'd be stuck with him until he retired, and guess what, we will be.  I'm very confident that we lose 5 out of 6 of our next games.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2018, 02:36:05 pm »

Fan opinion has almost tipped sour enough that they'll go out and beat Florida now.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2018, 03:23:30 pm »

I think we must win at least 10 to get in.  What say you????
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2018, 03:31:38 pm »

So we did the impossible last season?
I meant to say past the 2nd round. And I said almost impossible.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2018, 03:42:12 pm »

OP was probably part of the crowd who had us going to the Final Four after the games in Portland. I donít know why everyone is such a prisoner of the moment. Basketball is all about ďrunsĒ, during games and the season. Itís all about playing your best ball heading into March. This team did that last year, and should do it again this year. I still think this team can be much better than last years team.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2018, 03:51:04 pm »

Fan opinion has almost tipped sour enough that they'll go out and beat Florida now.
A lot of truth here.
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2018, 04:00:38 pm »

We won't be looking for a new coach unfortunately, I knew when everyone was clamoring for Mike Anderson to be hired we'd be stuck with him until he retired, and guess what, we will be.  I'm very confident that we lose 5 out of 6 of our next games.

If Jeff Long was still the AD I might agree with you but he isn't. In Circus terms, Mine Anderson's safety net just got cut down.
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2018, 04:18:07 pm »

I meant to say past the 2nd round. And I said almost impossible.

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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2018, 04:23:58 pm »

Just have got to solve our road woes.



Copy/paste yr. 20xx
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« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2018, 04:59:00 pm »

Copy/paste yr. 20xx

For team insert any college basketball team
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2018, 04:59:06 pm »

Arkansas is currently 10-2 in non-conference play with 1 Non-conference game (Okla State) remaining. going 9-9 in conference would give the Hogs 20 wins in regular season play and that isn't likely to be enough to get the Hogs in the Big dance. I believe they would also have to win a couple of games in the SEC Tournament games to get in with that record.

Assuming we beat Oklahoma State at home (their RPI would rank 12th in the SEC,) here is how we'd look with various records.

10-8 - 28th
 9-9  - 36th
8-10 - 45th

9-9 would likely keep us in the 9 seed area. 8-10 would put us closer to the bubble, but we'd likely have more high quality wins than many of those bubble teams. (Already have 2 Top 15 wins and 6 Top 100.) Losing to Vanderbilt at home is really our only opportunity at a bad loss (sub-100 loss).
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2018, 09:48:24 pm »

« Last Edit: January 14, 2018, 09:58:46 pm by hoghappy »
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2018, 10:03:11 pm »

I donít think so.

8-12 seeds advance to the 2nd round and 2nd weekend EVERY year. ďAlmost impossibleĒ should not be in the vocabulary. You were wrong. Itís cut and dry.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2018, 08:29:30 am »

They need a steady hand to run the point.
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Re: Still think we can make the big dance.
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2018, 09:51:16 am »

Assuming we beat Oklahoma State at home (their RPI would rank 12th in the SEC,) here is how we'd look with various records.

10-8 - 28th
 9-9  - 36th
8-10 - 45th

9-9 would likely keep us in the 9 seed area. 8-10 would put us closer to the bubble, but we'd likely have more high quality wins than many of those bubble teams. (Already have 2 Top 15 wins and 6 Top 100.) Losing to Vanderbilt at home is really our only opportunity at a bad loss (sub-100 loss).

Say what you want but in my opinion if the Hogs finish the regular season with 20 wins and don't get a win in the SEC Tournament, they are NIT bound.
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