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Quote from: Gohawgs 71 on Yesterday at 10:06:25 pmYep. Need Pryor and Poplar.
This. Pryor, poplar, Burks, and Wagner. That gets us to 11 and will likely be all for the summer
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: Who did Drink bribe?
Last post by @Blue-Chip - Today at 07:23:48 am
Quote from: TheGrove68 on Today at 03:03:03 amI think deep down this is what Bothers Hog fans about the made up rivalry it is a Window into what the rest of the conference and nation thinks of the HOG program and your status in the realm of CFB. You are seen as a Mid-tier program that has had marginal success and clearly are No better of a program than Mizzou and not as good a program in recent history because Mizzou has beaten the hogs on the regular and had more success in the conference than the hogs.
:o
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Quote from: bennyl08 on Today at 01:02:33 amFair enough.

Undoubtedly the other sports will suffer.

Without delving too far out of sports, I think college should be free such that the need for your oldest to get a swim scholarship is gone. If they want to swim competitively, they can do so for fun rather than their education depend on it.

That said, COVID proved what many have said all along that athletic scholarships cost the school next to nothing. They could add mens sports to keep title 9 balanced, but we all know they would likely just cut 85 women's schollys.
Idk about free. But definitely should be within reach.


As it goes, for guys swim scholarships are exceedingly rare. If he swims in college, he will be doing it for the love of it.
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Jump Ball / Re: Don't look now, but Now Ra...
Last post by ChitownHawg - Today at 06:46:34 am
Quote from: mountainhog on Today at 05:48:52 amany updated recruiting rankings?

We are #3 in overall rankings which includes the transfers.

https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Basketball/OverallTeamRankings/
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Quote from: Higgyhawg on Yesterday at 04:57:26 pmWhere are all of the Kentucky posts?
Ruff Rafters
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General Sports / Re: Khalif Battle names top 3 ...
Last post by AHiD - Today at 06:09:01 am
Quote from: HognitiveDissonance on Today at 12:42:56 amI hate this.
I really, really, really wanted Battle back.

The way he finished the year..it's like Johnelle who?
No way Johnelle Davis can out-do what Khalif Battle has already shown in the SEC.

Davis offers more upside than Battle IMO. There's a reason he was so much more highly rated in basically every portal ranking
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Jump Ball / Re: Don't look now, but Now Ra...
Last post by mountainhog - Today at 05:48:52 am
any updated recruiting rankings?
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: Chamblee to SMU
Last post by Hogo Piglitz - Today at 05:46:28 am
Quote from: bennyl08 on Yesterday at 09:45:33 pmOur 4-8 team had as many p5 wins in 2023 as SMU has had over the past 4 years combined. And you think they are a better team than the hogs? Heck, our 4-8 team produced two NFL draft picks and their team had none.

It's a lot easier to win, get playing time, and have fun when you drop down a level.

Facts are greater than feelings. Our 4-8 2023 had as many P5 wins as their past 4 teams combined. We had 2 NFL players to their zero.

As for transfers, SMU is getting players who lost their playing time or were never able to earn it in the first place. Look at Chamblee. He was a starter on a 4-8 team, but we upgraded our talent and he got relegated to backup status. OTOH, the G5 players moving up are players who have proven they are too good for the G5 and are being recruited by lots of other power teams as well. Look at some of our power transfers. Judkins is avoiding being downgraded from a P5 PAC to a G6 Big 12 by transferring to the SEC. Sorey is like a Chamblee except he is staying in the SEC and yeah, Bama and UGA's leftovers are good enough for us same way loads of our backups would be starters at places like SMU (see Chamblee).

1. Your being dishonest or maybe you don't know G5 teams play 1or 2 P5 teams a season so no they wouldn't rack up many if any wins hence why I said a G5 team is not supposed to beat a P5 team.


2.its alot easier to win and have fun when you play for a good team with real coaching.

3. NFL picks aren't a measure of a good vs bad college football team.

4.As for transfers SMU are getting former staters and back ups from the P4 teams such as defending champion Michigan and Ohio State,  and Miami. Arkansas is getting a few backups from the P4 and some starters from the G5 and FCS teams like Boise, Albany, and San Jose St.  Case in point today we got a CC DT who transferred in to BYU in January and out in April of this year has never played a down anywhere but CommunityCollege. And we got a G5 Wr that didn't cut it at NC so he moved down to South Florida.
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Jump Ball / Re: Re: Hoop Hogs recruiting t...
Last post by The real Hogules - Today at 04:17:08 am
Quote from: Deep Shoat on Yesterday at 09:42:48 pmPretty sure he'll be a Hog.  95% sure as of tonight.
Pryor is a definite want/need for our Hogs.
Can stretch a defense and at 6'10" he can dribble drive to the hoop, if the opportunity presents itself.
He'd be an awesome pick up for Cal!
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Monday Morning Quarterback / Re: Who did Drink bribe?
Last post by TheGrove68 - Today at 03:42:13 am
So your using common op
Quote from: bennyl08 on Yesterday at 12:00:27 amSo you contend that Missouri doesn't play harder against the hogs? Cool, let's put that theory to the test. Let's look at the hogs and missouri vs common opponents and then how they played against each other.

2014: +35 (-7)
2015: +32 (+25)
2016: +54 (-4)
2017: -3 (-3)
2018: -4 (-38)
2019: -5 (-10)
2020: +56 (-2)
2021: +31 (+17)
2022: +18 (-2)
2023: +8 (-34)

Bolded are the years where the final score between Arkansas and the tigers was vaguely on par with how the two teams fared against common opponents. 40% of the seasons, that was a solid predictor. 60% of the time, it was decidedly not. Note that in all of these seasons, the number of common opponents was always at least two and in most seasons, exactly two.

Notice the lack of games where the hogs played significantly in the mizzou game vs how they did against common opponents.

You might also notice the alternating years. That was largely games played at Mizzou.
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Quote from: bennyl08 on Yesterday at 12:00:27 amSo you contend that Missouri doesn't play harder against the hogs? Cool, let's put that theory to the test. Let's look at the hogs and missouri vs common opponents and then how they played against each other.

2014: +35 (-7)
2015: +32 (+25)
2016: +54 (-4)
2017: -3 (-3)
2018: -4 (-38)
2019: -5 (-10)
2020: +56 (-2)
2021: +31 (+17)
2022: +18 (-2)
2023: +8 (-34)

Bolded are the years where the final score between Arkansas and the tigers was vaguely on par with how the two teams fared against common opponents. 40% of the seasons, that was a solid predictor. 60% of the time, it was decidedly not. Note that in all of these seasons, the number of common opponents was always at least two and in most seasons, exactly two.

Notice the lack of games where the hogs played significantly in the mizzou game vs how they did against common opponents.

You might also notice the alternating years. That was largely games played at Mizzou.
Quote from: bennyl08 on Yesterday at 12:00:27 amSo you contend that Missouri doesn't play harder against the hogs? Cool, let's put that theory to the test. Let's look at the hogs and missouri vs common opponents and then how they played against each other.

2014: +35 (-7)
2015: +32 (+25)
2016: +54 (-4)
2017: -3 (-3)
2018: -4 (-38)
2019: -5 (-10)
2020: +56 (-2)
2021: +31 (+17)
2022: +18 (-2)
2023: +8 (-34)

Bolded are the years where the final score between Arkansas and the tigers was vaguely on par with how the two teams fared against common opponents. 40% of the seasons, that was a solid predictor. 60% of the time, it was decidedly not. Note that in all of these seasons, the number of common opponents was always at least two and in most seasons, exactly two.

Notice the lack of games where the hogs played significantly in the mizzou game vs how they did against common opponents.

You might also notice the alternating years. That was largely games played at Mizzou.

So your using common opponent's as the Metric to gauge the Mental Effort and Focus of two teams across various weeks and situations? Injury reports, weather, location of the game, etc. are not factored in your numbers. That is not a very quantifiable data point by any measure. Sure using those comparisons can get you a surface talent and production metric of the talent measurable of both teams and that can give a idea of what team is better. But once you delve into the Mental aspect your numbers are not gonna hold up.

In fact across a 10 year span you would assume if this is true about the Hogs and they are the more physically  talented and the Ark. team was hardened in the rigors of SECW that the Hogs would have won more games vs Mizzou do to the overall advantage in Mental sharpness and toughness they had achieved competing in the West and having a talent advantage to boot. To Fall flat continually and not play up to their Mental and Physical potential seems like a near statistical impossibility over a decade.
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