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GoHogs1091

Quote from: tusksincolorado on March 15, 2015, 04:57:27 pm
Shaka or Marshall current odds on favorite.

HELL NO on Rick Stansbury!

Ultimately, I could see them either hiring the Murray State Coach (Steve Prohm), or the Louisiana Tech Coach (Michael White).

The main problem with the Alabama Head Basketball Coach job is Coleman Coliseum.  That arena in its current condition doesn't help with recruiting the necessary high level players.

Cresthog

Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 06:43:14 pm
Fred Hoiberg is a Iowa State alumn, and wouldn't take a step down job.

That dude would only take a top 3 job from there. If at all.

He'd be pretty scary as Coach Ks replacement, or Roy or Cal.

Don't see him being interested in UCLA.

 

passinghog

Keep an eye on Steve Prohm, Murray State HC. Former Alabama student manager and a degree from there

alaback

And they get in the NIT...

Nice move bammers. They couldn't wait a couple of hours?

alaback

Quote from: hobhog on March 15, 2015, 04:57:53 pm
Think I heard on TV he has a $4 million buyout? That has to hurt, even with football money.

The football program made 35 million this year. It doesn't hurt.

High Octane Hog

Quote from: Breems on March 15, 2015, 04:22:59 pm
I remember the days of worrying about that stuff.

Yep, I remember some fans sending him emails at VCU asking him to take our job opening. Wow!
We got through the Pel scare and glad that Mike came home!

westside_player

isn't billy gillispie looking for work

chortle


clutch

Hasn't smart turned down quite a few jobs that are better than Bama over the past few seasons? I don't see that happening.

ErieHog

Quote from: westside_player on March 15, 2015, 07:53:19 pm
isn't billy gillispie looking for work

And for a brown paper sack to hide his lunch in.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ghostzapper

Hurley at Rhode Island would be a good hire.

jfred59

Another Asst coach for Billy D

TomBigBeeHog

Quote from: jfred59 on March 15, 2015, 08:43:15 pm
Another Asst coach for Billy D

Now that Pel has collected all of his buyout money, he can bring in another buyout baby on the cheap.
I spent most of my life drankin', gamblin', and chasing women, the rest I just wasted.

 

WilsonHog

Here's my favorite part about the firing of Anthony Grant:

In his six seasons at Alabama, Anthony Grant was 116-83 (.583) overall and 53-47 (.530) in thee SEC, with one NCAA appearance.

His predecessor, Mark Gottfried, was 210-131 (.616) overall and 83-82 (.503) in the SEC, with five NCAA Tournament trips in 11 years.

Since Gottfried left the announcing chair for NC State, he is 90-53 (.643) overall and 39-31 (.557) in the ACC. The Wolfpack are about to make their fourth trip to the NCAA Tourney in four years.

And Anthony Grant is looking for work.

texhog

Quote from: ghostzapper on March 15, 2015, 08:22:44 pm
Hurley at Rhode Island would be a good hire.
Thought Hurley was at Buffalo??

ErieHog

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

jbcarol

Andy Katz @ESPNAndyKatz  ·  44 minutes ago
Alabama officials are still deciding who will coach the Tide in the NIT now that Anthony Grant has been fired. Odd situation.

NIT acting chair Reggie Minton told me Alabama was in the field prior to knowing Grant had been fired.
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jbcarol

Trevor Lacey @TrevorLacey5  ·  57 minutes ago
Not fair to blame me !!!

Bo Black ‏@Bo_Black_  53 minutes ago
@stevenmaccall @TrevorLacey5 @CecilHurt not sure it's all that professional for a UA faculty member to tweet that to a student-athlete..

Steven MacCall ‏@stevenmaccall  55 minutes ago
@TrevorLacey5 @CecilHurt LOL #GoToHell LOL!!!
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jbcarol

Matt Zenitz @mzenitz  ·  2 hours ago
Poll: Who do you want to be Alabama's next basketball coach? http://s.al.com/WfYTOhB

QuoteBen Howland

Bobby Hurley

Gregg Marshall

Steve Prohm -- An Alabama graduate, the 40-year old Prohm was a student assistant coach and student manager for the Tide for five seasons. Murray State is 102-27 since Prohm took over as its coach in 2011
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Hawg Red

Quote from: clutch on March 15, 2015, 07:54:10 pm
Hasn't smart turned down quite a few jobs that are better than Bama over the past few seasons? I don't see that happening.

Sometimes, it's more about timing with coaching hires. Buzz Williams no doubt turned down better jobs than Virginia Tech in the seasons before he took that job.

Hawg Red

Quote from: texhog on March 15, 2015, 09:15:08 pm
Thought Hurley was at Buffalo??

Bobby Hurley coaches Buffalo, younger brother Dan coaches Rhode Island.

Kevin

Wish we would hire grant as an assistant   
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Quote from: secfan30 on March 15, 2015, 07:15:31 pm
He always has been better than Pel. That's just not saying much.

Even Heath was better than Failphrey. Gabe Kaplan would be better than Failphrey even though his only bball experience is from the movie Fast Break...

Horrible head coach. He may be a good assistant, but how far up Eddie Munster's backside must his nose be for him to call Failphrey a "great coach?"

Maybe that "warrior" just needs more time to lie there and "have a good bleed."
Making fun of Hootie since 2003

TheRazorbackGuy

Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 04:27:41 pm
Makes you wonder who they will reach for this time.  With Pearl's little tournament run, I bet there is a little more pressure on Alabama basketball than usual.

Larry Brown?

 

Deeznutts

I'm not sure why we care.

jackflash

To me for Alabama to hire a big time coach. Will depend on the commitment they make to having a basketball program. I don't see that their now..

z1on

Quote from: tusksincolorado on March 15, 2015, 04:57:27 pm
Shaka or Marshall current odds on favorite.

HELL NO on Rick Stansbury!

lmao

Alabama will end up hiring an up and comer. No good coach will go to a place that plays second fiddle to football and will have the most outdated arena in the league once Ole Miss completes their new gym.

PoormansRobbyHampton

Quote from: GuvHog on March 15, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Not unexpected. A few years back, there were some on this board crowing about how much better Grant is than Pel. He isn't any better and never has been.

Well. I wouldn't say all that.

:D

ErieHog

Quote from: TheRazorbackGuy on March 15, 2015, 10:41:23 pm
Larry Brown?

Nah.  SMU is paying him decently, and I don't think he wants to start over yet again.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

bigdaddyhawg

Quote from: z1on on March 16, 2015, 12:01:49 am
lmao

Alabama will end up hiring an up and comer. No good coach will go to a place that plays second fiddle to football and will have the most outdated arena in the league once Ole Miss completes their new gym.

Alabama recently completed an upgrade on their arena.  It's still not large, but it's nice, by all accounts.
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k.c.hawg

Quote from: TheRazorbackGuy on March 15, 2015, 10:41:23 pm
Larry Brown?

Larry Brown might be fixing to get a show cause from the NCAA. I would be stunned if Marshall or Smart took that job. Both have turned down much better jobs, both have been very patient with their career and are unlikely to commit career suicide by going to a football school when they have both turned down destination basketball schools.
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Dwight_K_Shrute

Quote from: bigdaddyhawg on March 16, 2015, 08:48:23 am
Alabama recently completed an upgrade on their arena.  It's still not large, but it's nice, by all accounts.

Unless you have ever been to Coleman you cannot appreciate it's level of crap.  It would be kind saying it is the basketball equivalent of War Memorial.  It's a giant Quonset hut and no level of upgrade will change that.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

hoghiker

Quote from: Deeznutts on March 15, 2015, 10:44:00 pm
I'm not sure why we care.
Uh, maybe because Bama is in our division and we play them twice every year. It's not just who coaches your team, somewhere in the dynamic it's also about whose coaching your opponent. That's just off the top of my head.

Hawg Red

Quote from: hoghiker on March 16, 2015, 09:32:49 am
Uh, maybe because Bama is in our division and we play them twice every year. It's not just who coaches your team, somewhere in the dynamic it's also about whose coaching your opponent. That's just off the top of my head.

Neither are true.

There haven't been divisions in SEC basketball since Anderson's first season at Arkansas, and we only played Bama once this year. Missouri is the only school we play twice annually. The rest of them rotate between home, away, and home-and-home.

But I do agree with your point on why this is relevant to the Hogs. Auburn likely put a lot of pressure on Bama by hiring Pearl. Interesting to see what they do.

Breems

It will be an up-and-comer, no doubt.
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HotlantaHog

The former Mississippi State coach who did well there and who shouldn't have been fired at Starkville might be a good fit. Though he is older.

TomBigBeeHog

Quote from: GuvHog on March 15, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Not unexpected. A few years back, there were some on this board crowing about how much better Grant is than Pel. He isn't any better and never has been.

comparing their head coaching records in the SEC, looks as if Grant was much better than Pelphrey although that's not saying much.
I spent most of my life drankin', gamblin', and chasing women, the rest I just wasted.

k.c.hawg

Watching Grant's teams play was worse than watching paint dry. I can't imagine a skilled basketball player wanting to go play for him. I can't say I've watched one Bama basketball game since he has been there unless Arkansas was the opponent. I tried many times but had to turn it off. They were usually good defensively but the offensive end was awful made for TV basketball.
Just sitting on the deck with a cold beer and a hot tequila watching the razorbacks roam.

HF#1

The next job Gregg Marshall takes will be a blue blood kind of job.  Kentucky, UNC, etc. 
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jesterzzn

March 16, 2015, 10:58:42 am #89 Last Edit: March 16, 2015, 11:09:34 am by jesterzzn
Quote from: WilsonHog on March 15, 2015, 09:11:21 pm
Here's my favorite part about the firing of Anthony Grant:

In his six seasons at Alabama, Anthony Grant was 116-83 (.583) overall and 53-47 (.530) in thee SEC, with one NCAA appearance.

His predecessor, Mark Gottfried, was 210-131 (.616) overall and 83-82 (.503) in the SEC, with five NCAA Tournament trips in 11 years.

Since Gottfried left the announcing chair for NC State, he is 90-53 (.643) overall and 39-31 (.557) in the ACC. The Wolfpack are about to make their fourth trip to the NCAA Tourney in four years.

And Anthony Grant is looking for work.
Gottfried recruits every other year it seems like.  Which makes sense when you look at his records.  One bad year, two good years, rince repeat.  His run at NC State is anything but great.  No way Bama should have fired him, but lets not pretend he is elite.  He's not.

Bama can get an elite coach.  History suggests they won't, but if they want to they probably could.  That's the thing that kinda worries me.

MikePiazza

Quote from: Hawg Red on March 16, 2015, 09:39:56 am
Neither are true.

There haven't been divisions in SEC basketball since Anderson's first season at Arkansas, and we only played Bama once this year. Missouri is the only school we play twice annually. The rest of them rotate between home, away, and home-and-home.

But I do agree with your point on why this is relevant to the Hogs. Auburn likely put a lot of pressure on Bama by hiring Pearl. Interesting to see what they do.

Didn't have them that year, either.
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MikePiazza

Maybe Seth Greenberg wants back in?
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Hawg Red

MP, you're right. They did away with divisions MA's first year, but they still played a division schedule. That's where I got hung up.

GuvHog

Quote from: TomBigBeeHog on March 16, 2015, 10:40:08 am
comparing their head coaching records in the SEC, looks as if Grant was much better than Pelphrey although that's not saying much.

Overall Grant had the better record but how many times did his Tide beat Pel's Hogs and vice-versa???
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HotlantaHog

Quote from: GuvHog on March 16, 2015, 11:39:30 am
Overall Grant had the better record but how many times did his Tide beat Pel's Hogs and vice-versa???
Grant had a fabulous record before Alabama too as I recall...

TheRazorbackGuy

Quote from: GuvHog on March 16, 2015, 11:39:30 am
Overall Grant had the better record but how many times did his Tide beat Pel's Hogs and vice-versa???

I'm hearing Mike Dantoni and Avery Johnson are interested

GuvHog

Quote from: HotlantaHog on March 16, 2015, 11:58:20 am
Grant had a fabulous record before Alabama too as I recall...

Good, yes, but calling it fabulous is a major league push.
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moses_007

And to think there was a large contingent of folks here calling for Pel's firing, and Grant's hiring.  We better be glad we didn't hire him.

GuvHog

Quote from: moses_007 on March 16, 2015, 12:47:44 pm
And to think there was a large contingent of folks here calling for Pel's firing, and Grant's hiring.  We better be glad we didn't hire him.

My point exactly, but they'll never admit that they were wrong.
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GoHogs1091

If they are looking for someone with significant experience, their best options would be the following.

Ben Howland
Leonard Hamilton
Lon Kruger (might could get him to leave Oklahoma)