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chiefhawg

March 15, 2015, 04:19:19 pm
Jon Solomon ‏@JonSolomonCBS  2m2 minutes ago
Alabama announces firing of Anthony Grant. Six years was long enough. Had to pull the trigger.

ricepig

March 15, 2015, 04:20:00 pm #1
@jeffbarzello:Alabama announces that they will not retain head coach Anthony Grant.
 

secfan30

March 15, 2015, 04:20:07 pm #2
I remember when he was an up and comer and was better than we had here at the time.

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 04:22:27 pm #3
Shocking. Not.

Breems

March 15, 2015, 04:22:59 pm #4
I remember the days of worrying about that stuff.
Proud member of the "Left Before Halftime" football club.

Quote from: Breems on January 27, 2011, 08:42:29 pm<br />SCREW VANDERBILT<br />

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 04:26:17 pm #5
In other words, Billy Donovan is about to add another former assistant back to his staff?

ErieHog

March 15, 2015, 04:27:41 pm #6
Makes you wonder who they will reach for this time.  With Pearl's little tournament run, I bet there is a little more pressure on Alabama basketball than usual.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ricepig

March 15, 2015, 04:29:01 pm #7
Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 04:27:41 pm
Makes you wonder who they will reach for this time.  With Pearl's little tournament run, I bet there is a little more pressure on Alabama basketball than usual.

Until the spring practice game, then it's over for the year.

Danny J

March 15, 2015, 04:30:10 pm #8
Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 04:27:41 pm
Makes you wonder who they will reach for this time.  With Pearl's little tournament run, I bet there is a little more pressure on Alabama basketball than usual.
They will hire another up and comer they can pay as little as possible.

Rawker

March 15, 2015, 04:32:03 pm #9
Quote from: Danny J on March 15, 2015, 04:30:10 pm
They will hire another up and comer they can pay as little as possible.

Bingo

Atlhogfan1

March 15, 2015, 04:35:26 pm #10
Rick Ray level hire is paying as little as possible.  Grant wasn't underpaid.

I'd check with Archie Miller if I were Bama to see if he were interested. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

GoHogs1091

March 15, 2015, 04:36:24 pm #11
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 15, 2015, 04:26:17 pm
In other words, Billy Donovan is about to add another former assistant back to his staff?

I saw a thread the other day over on another message board started by a Florida fan that was titled, "Anthony Grant Come on Down."

Don't be surprised if the following names get mentioned by the National Media for the Alabama job.

Shaka Smart
Rick Stansbury
Gregg Marshall

If Rick Barnes loses his job at Texas, then Barnes' name could also be mentioned by the National Media.

Swinesong1

March 15, 2015, 04:39:51 pm #12
Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on March 15, 2015, 04:35:26 pm
Rick Ray level hire is paying as little as possible.  Grant wasn't underpaid.

I'd check with Archie Miller if I were Bama to see if he were interested.
I know he won't, but Miller should get consideration for COY.  Dismissed his two tallest players.  No one over 6'7" on roster and kept winning.
 

opineonswine

March 15, 2015, 04:42:38 pm #13
Alabama has historically been a contender in the SEC.  Be interesting to see how they go.  I suspect they'll try to go big.

HOGINTENNESSEE

March 15, 2015, 04:43:14 pm #14
Bama is a pretty darn good job the right guy can win there and be a top 25 type team. They should have fired him last year and got Pearl.

Atlhogfan1

March 15, 2015, 04:45:47 pm #15
Murray St's head coach is a Bama grad - Steve Prohm.  If they decide to or have to go that direction perhaps he'll get a look. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

ErieHog

March 15, 2015, 04:46:04 pm #16
I expect there to be a lot of noise around Shaka Smart for the Alabama job.   They'll have to pay him a fair bit, because VCU pays him relatively well.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

opineonswine

March 15, 2015, 04:48:15 pm #17
Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 04:46:04 pm
I expect there to be a lot of noise around Shaka Smart for the Alabama job.   They'll have to pay him a fair bit, because VCU pays him relatively well.

That would be interesting...back to the VCU well?

Atlhogfan1

March 15, 2015, 04:49:15 pm #18
Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 04:46:04 pm
I expect there to be a lot of noise around Shaka Smart for the Alabama job.   They'll have to pay him a fair bit, because VCU pays him relatively well.

Texas should look his way and he should be interested if they make a change. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

GuvHog

March 15, 2015, 04:53:32 pm #19
Not unexpected. A few years back, there were some on this board crowing about how much better Grant is than Pel. He isn't any better and never has been.
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ErieHog

March 15, 2015, 04:55:17 pm #20
Quote from: opineonswine on March 15, 2015, 04:48:15 pm
That would be interesting...back to the VCU well?

It would likely work for both programs.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Breems

March 15, 2015, 04:56:49 pm #21
Quote from: GuvHog on March 15, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Not unexpected. A few years back, there were some on this board crowing about how much vvvvvvvvvvbetter Grant is than Pel. He isn't any better and never has been.

Fans go with the wind.
Proud member of the "Left Before Halftime" football club.

Quote from: Breems on January 27, 2011, 08:42:29 pm<br />SCREW VANDERBILT<br />

tusksincolorado

March 15, 2015, 04:57:27 pm #22

Shaka or Marshall current odds on favorite.

HELL NO on Rick Stansbury!
Screw it! I'm an old angry male, live with it!

hobhog

March 15, 2015, 04:57:53 pm #23
Think I heard on TV he has a $4 million buyout? That has to hurt, even with football money.
 

HOGINTENNESSEE

March 15, 2015, 04:58:45 pm #24
Quote from: GuvHog on March 15, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Not unexpected. A few years back, there were some on this board crowing about how much better Grant is than Pel. He isn't any better and never has been.

He is better than Pel and his record proves it. However, that still doesn't make him a good Head Coach.

tusksincolorado

March 15, 2015, 04:59:33 pm #25
Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 04:46:04 pm
I expect there to be a lot of noise around Shaka Smart for the Alabama job.   They'll have to pay him a fair bit, because VCU pays him relatively well.

That shouldn't be a problem at BAMA...as long as he's not paid more than Satan. Little Nicky wouldn't stand for that at all!
Screw it! I'm an old angry male, live with it!

chiefhawg

March 15, 2015, 05:00:20 pm #26
Grant will probably go to work with Frank Martin at USCe. They are long time friends from South Florida.

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 05:00:28 pm #27
I don't see Shaka Smart settling for the Alabama job. If he sticks it out @ VCU, he'll still have better opportunities down the line.

Atlhogfan1

March 15, 2015, 05:00:53 pm #28
Quote from: tusksincolorado on March 15, 2015, 04:57:27 pm
Shaka or Marshall current odds on favorite.

HELL NO on Rick Stansbury!

They are better than the Bama job.  But timing and other factors go into changes so maybe they would consider it.  And Bama isn't a bad job. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 05:01:55 pm #29
I don't see Gregg Marshall taking that job either.

ErieHog

March 15, 2015, 05:02:39 pm #30
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 15, 2015, 05:00:28 pm
I don't see Shaka Smart settling for the Alabama job. If he sticks it out @ VCU, he'll still have better opportunities down the line.

Its not a big settle.  It is still a major conference job, and they can pay him better if they are going to keep up a higher level of salary like they did with Grant.   Not a ton of major major jobs opening this year.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 05:06:36 pm #31
Quote from: ErieHog on March 15, 2015, 05:02:39 pm
Its not a big settle.  It is still a major conference job, and they can pay him better if they are going to keep up a higher level of salary like they did with Grant.   Not a ton of major major jobs opening this year.

Depends on how impatient he is. How long will Roy stay at UNC? How long does Barnes stay at Texas? There are other jobs that could come open in the next few years with a higher profile than Bama.

WilsonHog

March 15, 2015, 05:10:58 pm #32
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 15, 2015, 05:00:28 pm
I don't see Shaka Smart settling for the Alabama job. If he sticks it out @ VCU, he'll still have better opportunities down the line.

Smart is not likely to go to Bama after turning down UCLA.

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 05:14:38 pm #33
Quote from: WilsonHog on March 15, 2015, 05:10:58 pm
Smart is not likely to go to Bama after turning down UCLA.

Why do you think that? I don't get that logic. Does he have any ties to Bama?

ErieHog

March 15, 2015, 05:16:22 pm #34
Quote from: WilsonHog on March 15, 2015, 05:10:58 pm
Smart is not likely to go to Bama after turning down UCLA.

UCLA has some deep, deep issues from the administrative side.

Great name, not a good job at all right now.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Cresthog

March 15, 2015, 05:19:42 pm #35
Quote from: GoHogs1091 on March 15, 2015, 04:36:24 pm
I saw a thread the other day over on another message board started by a Florida fan that was titled, "Anthony Grant Come on Down."

Don't be surprised if the following names get mentioned by the National Media for the Alabama job.

Shaka Smart
Rick Stansbury
Gregg Marshall

If Rick Barnes loses his job at Texas, then Barnes' name could also be mentioned by the National Media.

Not a single one of those guys would take the Bama job except Stans.

HOGINTENNESSEE

March 15, 2015, 05:33:23 pm #36
Quote from: Cresthog on March 15, 2015, 05:19:42 pm
Not a single one of those guys would take the Bama job except Stans.

I agree

Calling All Hogs

March 15, 2015, 05:34:41 pm #37
Quote from: opineonswine on March 15, 2015, 04:42:38 pm
Alabama has historically been a contender in the SEC.  Be interesting to see how they go.  I suspect they'll try to go big.
I expect them to go big to match the Bruce Pearl hire. 

tusksincolorado

March 15, 2015, 06:13:36 pm #38
Quote from: Calling All Hogs on March 15, 2015, 05:34:41 pm
I expect them to go big to match the Bruce Pearl hire. 

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!
Screw it! I'm an old angry male, live with it!

Pigonometry

March 15, 2015, 06:15:07 pm #39
I remember when he was hired I was really worried about him making Alabama really good.  Never happened.
Baseball is simple, but never easy.

passinghog

March 15, 2015, 06:18:23 pm #40
Quote from: Calling All Hogs on March 15, 2015, 05:34:41 pm
I expect them to go big to match the Bruce Pearl hire. 

Auburn has better facilities than Alabama. Pearl being available for Auburn was a scenario with a lot of turns in their favor. Him being NCAA penalties, not many major jobs being opened at the time. We'll see who they get though...

tusksincolorado

March 15, 2015, 06:23:32 pm #41
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 15, 2015, 06:18:23 pm
Auburn has better facilities than Alabama. Pearl being available for Auburn was a scenario with a lot of turns in their favor. Him being NCAA penalties, not many major jobs being opened at the time. We'll see who they get though...

Whose is the Iowa State coach?
Screw it! I'm an old angry male, live with it!

BWS

March 15, 2015, 06:35:32 pm #42
Alabama really isn't an attractive job to land for a high profile coach. Basketball will always be a distant third to football and spring practice. I can certainly see Rick Stansbury or the Murray State coach being top candidates for the job.

bigdaddyhawg

March 15, 2015, 06:37:20 pm #43
Quote from: Calling All Hogs on March 15, 2015, 05:34:41 pm
I expect them to go big to match the Bruce Pearl hire. 

Quote from: tusksincolorado on March 15, 2015, 06:13:36 pm
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

Doubtful.

Nobody at Bama wants anybody taking any headlines away from the football team.

They want to be competitive, just not TOO competitive.
Let us then turn this government back into the channel in which the framers of the Constitution originally placed it.  Abraham Lincoln, 1858

HawgnCorona

March 15, 2015, 06:42:03 pm #44
Well wish good luck to him...You could see the handwriting on the wall last year.
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all your getting, get understanding." --   Proverbs 4:7

"Live justly, love mercy and to walk humbly with the Most High."-- Micah 6:8

ErieHog

March 15, 2015, 06:43:14 pm #45
Quote from: tusksincolorado on March 15, 2015, 06:23:32 pm
Whose is the Iowa State coach?

Fred Hoiberg is a Iowa State alumn, and wouldn't take a step down job.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

HawgnCorona

March 15, 2015, 06:44:48 pm #46
Ouch!!
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all your getting, get understanding." --   Proverbs 4:7

"Live justly, love mercy and to walk humbly with the Most High."-- Micah 6:8

jbcarol

March 15, 2015, 06:55:27 pm #47
Rob Dauster @RobDauster  ·  2 hours ago
Anthony Grant went to one NCAA tourney in six seasons at Alabama. He went to two in three years at VCU. Fired today: http://wp.me/p1aWjM-2cbP
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passinghog

March 15, 2015, 07:13:37 pm #48
Quote from: tusksincolorado on March 15, 2015, 06:23:32 pm
Whose is the Iowa State coach?

They have no shot at Hoiberg. The only way he leaves Ames is for an NBA job.

secfan30

March 15, 2015, 07:15:31 pm #49
Quote from: GuvHog on March 15, 2015, 04:53:32 pm
Not unexpected. A few years back, there were some on this board crowing about how much better Grant is than Pel. He isn't any better and never has been.

He always has been better than Pel. That's just not saying much.
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