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If Matt Jones was the QB in 2006, do the hogs win the title?

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With Jones at QB along with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and Monk, along with Gus's offensive scheme, would Arkansas have beaten LSU and Florida and won a national title?

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can we give him childs, wright, and adams to throw to while we are at it?
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Quote from: Sweet Feet on February 28, 2018, 06:09:27 pm
With Jones at QB along with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and Monk, along with Gus's offensive scheme, would Arkansas have beaten LSU and Florida and won a national title?

No, all games would have been forfeited since Jones had no eligibility left.

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Quote from: Sweet Feet on February 28, 2018, 06:09:27 pm
With Jones at QB along with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and Monk, along with Gus's offensive scheme, would Arkansas have beaten LSU and Florida and won a national title?

Probably not!

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Quote from: Sweet Feet on February 28, 2018, 06:09:27 pm
With Jones at QB along with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and Monk, along with Gus's offensive scheme, would Arkansas have beaten LSU and Florida and won a national title?

Probably, if all the games had been played in Little Rock.

sickboy

I tell you what. I'd pay all my cheeseburgers to see Petrino coach that team. Heck, Jones would have probably been a Heisman favorite if Petrino coached him.

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Quote from: Sweet Feet on February 28, 2018, 06:09:27 pm
With Jones at QB along with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and Monk, along with Gus's offensive scheme, would Arkansas have beaten LSU and Florida and won a national title?

Nutt couldn't solve Wisconsin.  He sure wasn't going to solve tOSU.
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Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on February 28, 2018, 07:28:20 pm
No. Unless Matt Jones improved his fumbling issues

This and Nutt are 2 reasons we would not have won. 
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Quote from: sickboy on February 28, 2018, 07:05:55 pm
I tell you what. I'd pay all my cheeseburgers to see Petrino coach that team. Heck, Jones would have probably been a Heisman favorite if Petrino coached him.
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The real question is should we have fired Nutt after an 8-4 season?
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Would we have won a National Championship in 2013 if we had Tyler Wilson at QB, DMac and Felix at RB, Lucas, Childs, and Wright at WR, Bequette at DE, and Atwater at Safety?
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We'd need a pass-first quarterback to go with that backfield. We had the ground game covered.

WBOBO

Not to change the subject too much from the OP but how would we do with Matt Jones barking the signals next year?
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Thatdudeman

Quote from: Mo_Better_Hogs on February 28, 2018, 10:21:26 pm
We'd need a pass-first quarterback to go with that backfield. We had the ground game covered.

This. Anybody to keep the defense from just stuffing the box

sickboy

Quote from: WBOBO on February 28, 2018, 10:34:51 pm
Not to change the subject too much from the OP but how would we do with Matt Jones barking the signals next year?

Depends. Would he dress like a dog too or just bark like a dog?

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Quote from: Thatdudeman on March 01, 2018, 12:34:39 am
This. Anybody to keep the defense from just stuffing the box

Agree...in 2007, when Casey Dick lost Marcus Monk (his most reliable target), our passing game was destined to suffer. If we'd had any vertical threat, we probably would have won the West again, and McFadden might have put up numbers that not even Tebow lovers could ignore in the Heisman voting.

So back to the main topic, not sure the best running quarterback we've ever seen would have helped that situation.
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Quote from: Tejano Jawg on March 01, 2018, 01:41:21 am
Agree...in 2007, when Casey Dick lost Marcus Monk (his most reliable target), our passing game was destined to suffer. If we'd had any vertical threat, we probably would have won the West again, and McFadden might have put up numbers that not even Tebow lovers could ignore in the Heisman voting.

So back to the main topic, not sure the best running quarterback we've ever seen would have helped that situation.
But he may have helped out as a 2nd vertical threat.

 

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Quote from: sickboy on February 28, 2018, 07:05:55 pm
I tell you what. I'd pay all my cheeseburgers to see Petrino coach that team. Heck, Jones would have probably been a Heisman favorite if Petrino coached him.

I agree It would have been plumb scary.
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Its pretty crazy to think that we were 4 years bad luck from having McFadden Jones Mallett  Adams and the Warren 3
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Probably not. As talented as Jones was periodically he just didn't come onto the field motivated to play. My theory has always been that he was somewhat bored with football. Basketball was his sport of choice. He simply wasn't as talented in hoops as he was in football.

Some keep telling me that he squandered his football career. People who know him say he's a well adjusted adult with no regrets. He was never about making a pile of money.

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Quote from: PorkSoda on February 28, 2018, 06:11:50 pm
can we give him childs, wright, and adams to throw to while we are at it?

Good point.  I really don't like these hypothetical questions......
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Quote from: 007 License To Squeal on March 01, 2018, 03:40:19 pm
Good point.  I really don't like these hypothetical questions......

But what if our coach had been.....Ditka?

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Quote from: Mike Irwin on March 01, 2018, 02:30:26 pm
Probably not. As talented as Jones was periodically he just didn't come onto the field motivated to play. My theory has always been that he was somewhat bored with football. Basketball was his sport of choice. He simply wasn't as talented in hoops as he was in football.

This is one of the things that makes Matt so fascinating at least, to many of us that would give a gonad to have half the talent he had. 

I was a huge Jones fan from the time I saw him (in the Weber State game that was the "make up" game for N. Texas - which got cancelled after the 9/11 attack) streak down the sideline on a 60-65 yard TD run in mop-up time.  I was mesmerized by a guy his size running the way (and as fast as) he did.  Never got tired of watching him play.

Side quasi-related story.  Best run I ever saw Matt make was in a spring practice.  I had come up one weekend when the Baseball team was playing a home SEC series.  It was during spring ball, but it was not a weekend they were having a major scrimmage - just a practice.  So I went to DWRRS and sat down around midfield (HDN didn't close the spring practices - at least, not at that point). 

After a few periods of misc drills with each group doing their own thing, the coaches put the ball on the 50 and ran a few plays of "good vs. good" - first team offense vs. first team defense.  Back then, we had a pretty good defense - Batman Carroll, Lawrence Richardson, Caleb Miller, Tony Bua, Sam Olajubutu, Jermaine Brooks, Jimmy Beasley, Eddie Jackson, Jermaine Petty, etc.

On the very first play, Matt took the snap on what was a designed pass.  He held the ball for a couple of seconds, and then got some pressure from one of the rushers.  In typical Matt style, he drifted backwards and to the side while continuing to look downfield.  Eventually, he was flushed and had to run.  He came around the left end (nearest to me), then cut on a dime, losing the guy chasing him from behind, and the linebacker closing in from the other side.  Matt continue across the field, eluding one man after another, until he was near the far sideline (and probably about the 25 yardline.  He then cut back the other way, evaded one or two others and zipped into the EZ.  When he got there, he just stopped, dropped the ball and slowly headed back to midfield. 

I know, I know - it loses a LOT in the telling.  You really had to be there; I was stunned.  I have often wished I had the video of that run.  Matt almost literally ran through our entire defense on that one play.  One - or two at a time - they thought they had him cornered, but he just zipped around them as if they were standing still.  I remember a couple of the guys on D just shaking their heads afterward. 

He may have been a head case (or may not have been - how would I know?), but - God - how I enjoyed watching him play.


razortrack

Wow, to mention McFadden, Jones, and Hillis in the same sentence as Monk!

Thatdudeman

Quote from: John Futrall on March 01, 2018, 04:51:14 pm
But what if our coach had been.....Ditka?

Can you trade an entire draft class for one player?

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March 01, 2018, 10:24:16 pm #32 Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 10:38:18 pm by greasy_corner
Quote from: PorkSoda on February 28, 2018, 06:11:50 pm
can we give him childs, wright, and adams to throw to while we are at it?

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Quote from: razortrack on March 01, 2018, 09:52:00 pm
Wow, to mention McFadden, Jones, and Hillis in the same sentence as Monk!

The OP did it to get a response.  He's good at it....Starting the most asinine threads.     

There was an old poster with the handle "Sweet Kitten Feet" that was an aggie.  I've always assumed this guy was it.   

hawganatic

A running QB would have only had a marginal improvement on that team.  There would have also been no reason to run the McFadden at the Wildcat if we had Jones on the team, which was a big reason that team won like it did.

If we are playing hypotheticals and moving QBs from year to year (which are lame and could go on forever, but I'm bored right now), take Mallett or Wilson and put them on the 2006 team.  That could have been a championship year with one of those two arms and that backfield.

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