If hiring Hugh Freeze is a requirement for Gus

[Tusks]

to come the Arkansas then good riddance Gus, you had your chance.

No way, no how does HF ever coach at Arkansas.

[FrankCourtneyNicodemus]

to come the Arkansas then good riddance Gus, you had your chance.

No way, no how does HF ever coach at Arkansas.

Don't think anyone has remotely stated this.

I posed this as a question to PRJ. If true, however, definitely lamentable; but too absurd to be true.

*Edit: don't get it twisted.

[HotlantaHog]

I think whoever the head coach is including Gus should be able to choose his own staff. If a staff member has done something illegal and is facing jail time or if the NCAA has banned him from coaching, well he shouldn't be on the staff. Beyond that, pick whoever he thinks is best.

[online-with-swine]

He has a show cause for being a head coach, right?

[NuttinItUp]

It isn't true.

[BR]

He has a show cause for being a head coach, right?

No he does not.... Some of his staff at Ole Miss got them... He did not

[Tankster]

This is spin

[MountieDawg]

Some people need to review their medications!

[BartIV]

Bring it on. Short leash. Slap in the face to Houston Nutt I think.

[Wild Bill Hog]

Some people need to review their medications!

or take them more regularly.

[The NewEra]

I'm glad the OP started this thread.  This needs to be discussed openly.  And by the way, for a poster above me.  Hogville operates on rumors, so something doesn't have to be official to merit discussion.

The rumor from several media members and a few Hogville posters is that Malzhan floated the idea of bringing Hugh Freeze with him if he came to Arkansas.  A Big Splash Hire.  If that is true, then I think it brings into question whether Gus has the common sense to lead this program forward.  Hugh Freeze was just fired for cause at Ole Miss this year.  The program he led has been under NCAAA investigation for a few years now and just recently received serious sanctions and penalties.  Just the idea that a new head coach might consider a move like this should scare the hell out of anyone who cares about this program.  We would immediately be put under an NCAA microscope, not to mention the character issues the media would have a field day with since we fired Petrino for even less.  Every school would use him being on the staff against us in recruiting.

So, the question is, if the rumors are true and Gus would even attempt to bring Hugh Freeze in, knowing what he's done and with that being so fresh in the public's mind, would you still support him?

My answer is a resounding NO!!!

[HotlantaHog]

The head coach whoever it is should be allowed to hire the staff he wants.

Hugh Freeze had an escort or something. I don't care. This is so much BS.

[moehog]

Hugh DID get a 1 year show cause as a head coach

https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi/report-hugh-freeze-given-one-year-show-cause-penalty-head-coach-coordinator-immediately

[Kevin]

Move on from Gus

[The NewEra]

Move on from Gus

It's time!

[BDSCT51]

Seriously, where do some of you get this kind of driveling nonsense from!

[HoggyCat]

No he does not.... Some of his staff at Ole Miss got them... He did not

Yes he does, for head coach. But he can be an assistant.

[ipigsooie]

Funny that some of you are ok with Lane and his staff  (Kendal Briles and Chris Kiffin who also got a show cause). I don't want Gus, so don't get me wrong. I just find it funny.

[jcul28]

They have to keep the righteous church involved. Gus don't cheat so he wants to hire an assistant that never did either.

[Hogwild]

Hugh DID get a 1 year show cause as a head coach

https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi/report-hugh-freeze-given-one-year-show-cause-penalty-head-coach-coordinator-immediately

That report was retracted, he didn't get  a show cause, he got a two conference game suspension if he is a head coach next season.

[The NewEra]

Seriously, where do some of you get this kind of driveling nonsense from!

Wally Hall, Trey Biddy, Bo Mattingly, Trey Schapp:


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I have heard the same. Gus is going to pull his bus into Fayetteville and the surprise hire will shock college football world.

[Kevin]

Funny how Chris kiffin got a show cause but the head coach didn't. NCAA logic

[hawgette92]

No he does not.... Some of his staff at Ole Miss got them... He did not

Yes he did, his is a one year and not as long as the other two, but he does have a show clause that prevents him from taking HC jobs, but he can coach as an assistant. 

[Pig in the Pokey]

to come the Arkansas then good riddance Gus, you had your chance.

No way, no how does HF ever coach at Arkansas.

[Danny J]

The head coach whoever it is should be allowed to hire the staff he wants.

Hugh Freeze had an escort or something. I don't care. This is so much BS.

It's because of the brainwashing over the last 6 years coming from our moral leaders on high. If "integrity" is stopping us from making a good hire then we deserve every bit of what we will get.

IF the "rumor" is true...

[Redhogs]

I'm glad the OP started this thread.  This needs to be discussed openly.  And by the way, for a poster above me.  Hogville operates on rumors, so something doesn't have to be official to merit discussion.

The rumor from several media members and a few Hogville posters is that Malzhan floated the idea of bringing Hugh Freeze with him if he came to Arkansas.  A Big Splash Hire.  If that is true, then I think it brings into question whether Gus has the common sense to lead this program forward.  Hugh Freeze was just fired for cause at Ole Miss this year.  The program he led has been under NCAAA investigation for a few years now and just recently received serious sanctions and penalties.  Just the idea that a new head coach might consider a move like this should scare the hell out of anyone who cares about this program.  We would immediately be put under an NCAA microscope, not to mention the character issues the media would have a field day with since we fired Petrino for even less.  Every school would use him being on the staff against us in recruiting.

So, the question is, if the rumors are true and Gus would even attempt to bring Hugh Freeze in, knowing what he's done and with that being so fresh in the public's mind, would you still support him?

My answer is a resounding NO!!!

Says a whole lot more about GM than freeze if true.

[HawgHeadCheese]

If Gus bringing Hugh Freeze which is a hell of a ideal in as a coordinator he wouldn't be at Arkansas no longer than a year or 2 at the max. He will be a HC again even if not P5 at least smaller conference. He's not the head man and won't be running the show and can be put on a short leash. That would be 2 offensive geniuses on our staff. Didn't Saban bring in the old USC coach after he was fired and banded from coaching under a different title. Loop holes gentlemen. I'm starting to think you guys don't want to be good.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Says a whole lot more about GM than freeze if true.

he IS the AUBURN coach after all.

[LumberBacks]

If Gus doesn't hire Freeze, Saban will. 

[hawgdavis]

I think whoever the head coach is including Gus should be able to choose his own staff. If a staff member has done something illegal and is facing jail time or if the NCAA has banned him from coaching, well he shouldn't be on the staff. Beyond that, pick whoever he thinks is best.

I agree with this. If there were not folks out there that are willing to help folks after they screw up then the world would be a much worse place. Many coaches have to go backwards after  the screw the pooch in order to rehab their career. I learn the most when I make mistakes and I bet I'm not the only one.

[HawgHeadCheese]

If Gus doesn't hire Freeze, Saban will.

Thank you. Someone that knows football

[parallaxpig]

It's a God thing people.....

[online-with-swine]

Thing with Freeze is that he built his persona as a God fearing and wholesome man.  That was built on a foundation of lies.  If he hadn't professed over and over again about how Godly he was it would be different.

[WayneHawg]

I just posted to see my karma results. It's been so long I forgot

[Switchback]

This is a ridiculous rumor lacking common sense.  No way would he fall on his sword over HF.

[PorkRinds]

Hard to see St. Gustavo the pious hiring a guy that was shagging hookers and getting in NCAA trouble at his last stop.

[Cylinder]

Hugh DID get a 1 year show cause as a head coach

https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi/report-hugh-freeze-given-one-year-show-cause-penalty-head-coach-coordinator-immediately

That's incorrect. Freeze has a two-conference-game suspension valid for the 2018 season -- if he's hired as a head coach.

UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI PUBLIC INFRACTIONS DECISION

Core Penalties for Head Coach Level I-Mitigated Violations (Bylaw 19.9.5.5)

6. Head coach restrictions. The head coach was responsible for the violations committed by members of his staff. He failed to monitor certain aspects of the recruiting process as set forth in Violation IV.O, and he did not monitor the actions of boosters supporting his program.

Members of his staff engaged in numerous Level I, II and II violations, while football boosters continued a decades-long disdain for NCAA recruiting rules. Therefore, pursuant to Bylaw 19.9.5.5, any member institution hiring the head coach as a head football coach during a one-year period, December 1, 2017, through November 30, 2018, shall suspend the head coach for the first two conference contests of the 2018 football season.

The provisions of this suspension require that the head coach not be present in the venue where the games are played and have no contact or communication with members of the football coaching staff and student-athletes during the suspension period. The prohibition includes all coaching activities for the period of time which begins at 12:01 a.m. the day of the first conference game and ends at 11:59 p.m. on the day of the second conference game. During that period, the head coach may not participate in any activities, including, but not limited to, team travel, practice, recruiting, video study and team meetings. The results of those contests from which the head coach is suspended shall not count in his career coaching record.

[hawgwash]

If this is his requirement to come to Arkansas then he's just using it as a way to say no without saying "no".

[hog1984]

The head coach whoever it is should be allowed to hire the staff he wants.

Hugh Freeze had an escort or something. I don't care. This is so much BS.

And I am sure HF has wiped all escort phone numbers from his cell phone...but it is possible he has them memorized. Better clear this one up before Gus hires him. Rehab requires a clean start.

[Donny2665]

to come the Arkansas then good riddance Gus, you had your chance.

No way, no how does HF ever coach at Arkansas.

Where in the world did that come from?

[Donny2665]

It's time!

Maybe in 5 years when he moves on to the Cowboys!

[Ironhawg]

It is hard to believe that Arkansas fans have become so starved for a winning football program that they would not only be ok with having Hugh Freeze as an assistant coach, but would cheer the move.  This is the same Hugh Freeze whose program at Ole Miss has been under NCAA investigation and is currently under sanctions.  I can't help but think that his mere presence at Arkansas would instantly bring us under an NCAA microscope.  Make no mistake, we are not North Carolina who are seemingly above the rules.  If they got a faint whiff of an infraction at Arkansas they would take out their frustrations on us and hammer us unmercifully. 
Right now it's just a rumor.  I sincerely hope it stays just a rumor.

[jmark]

no to hf being on the coaching staff

[East Clintwood]

Thing with Freeze is that he built his persona as a God fearing and wholesome man.  That was built on a foundation of lies.  If he hadn't professed over and over again about how Godly he was it would be different.

Nah, it just puts him in company with most of the mega-church and TV preachers.

[jjdlc]

I can't see Malzahn wanting to bring in Freeze, there is way too much stink surrounding him right now. 

[ADavisTheGOAT]

Win at all costs

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Has anyone thought of this.  Gus really doesn't want to come to AR.  He would rather stay at Auburn, but with all his family, friends, connections here he doesn't want to outright say no.  So instead what he does is propose something that he knows will most likely be untenable or a deal breaker, ie the hiring of Hugh Freeze.  Arkansas says no way can you hire him, Gus can tell friends, family, connections well I tried but they wouldn't let me do X.  Arkansas is then the one keeping the deal from happening not Gus so he can stay at Auburn, but still act like he wanted to come home.

[East Clintwood]

Has anyone thought of this.  Gus really doesn't want to come to AR.  He would rather stay at Auburn, but with all his family, friends, connections here he doesn't want to outright say no.  So instead what he does is propose something that he knows will most likely be untenable or a deal breaker, ie the hiring of Hugh Freeze.  Arkansas says no way can you hire him, Gus can tell friends, family, connections well I tried but they wouldn't let me do X.  Arkansas is then the one keeping the deal from happening not Gus so he can stay at Auburn, but still act like he wanted to come home.

This.

If we tell tell him it's OK to bring Freeze, he'll probably come back and say he's changed his mind and he wants to hire Art Briles instead.

[hawgwash]

Has anyone thought of this.  Gus really doesn't want to come to AR.  He would rather stay at Auburn, but with all his family, friends, connections here he doesn't want to outright say no.  So instead what he does is propose something that he knows will most likely be untenable or a deal breaker, ie the hiring of Hugh Freeze.  Arkansas says no way can you hire him, Gus can tell friends, family, connections well I tried but they wouldn't let me do X.  Arkansas is then the one keeping the deal from happening not Gus so he can stay at Auburn, but still act like he wanted to come home.

This. That's what I was saying a few posts above.

[NotSoFastMyFriend]

Hugh Freeze is not coming here. That much I can guarantee. Yes, I have a source on this one. My source is a current D1 assistant (who is also not a candidate for the job).