Either AL, AU, FL, GA, LSU, or TN have been the SEC FB champ each yr since 1964

[UA1985]

(KY retroactively claimed a co-championship with GA in 1977 after KY's loss to MSU was erased via MSU forfeit.) We need one helluva game changer at head coach to climb this mountain. Even though two of the six programs that have a realistic shot at the title are down right now, AL, AU, GA and LSU are pretty damn strong. Leap frogging them ALL is quite the challenge. Something to shoot for, I suppose.

[rlamb]

Yeah, and you know it's embarrassing and all but I think we have won or tied for 4 SEC West
titles in the 25 year time span we've been in SEC. Only Bama, Auburn and LSU have won more.
LSU and Auburn not by many.

It took once mighty Florida from 1915 or so till 1991 or so when Steve Spurrier arrived to win
their first outright  SEC Title! That's about 65 years. They won  one in the 80-'s with Galen Hall
as Coach but were stripped of it because of NCAA sanctions.

[Hugo Bezdek]

We've been to the brink. We need the right coach to take us all the way. A Sugar Bowl in 2010 and Top 5 finish in 2011 tells you we are perfectly capable of doing it.

[oldbooniehog]

Only Sugar Bowl team finished 2nd in SEC West and Top Five finished 3rd in SEC West.

Even with bestest coach ever who the Yankee fired, Hogs are Second Fiddle in the SEC West.

[SchrodingersHog]

Thus the regular appearance of posts questioning why we stay in the SEC.

We are nothing but a well paid rent-a-win for the dominant programs in the SEC.  We get $$$ and the dominant schools get resume buildings wins.  We aren't alone.  South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy, and others are similarly used by the winners of the SEC. I'm sure most of us have noticed the SEC refs tend to protect the top programs every year.

At least Kentucky gets the trade off of a basketball conference they can win.

At least we can brag about getting stomped by the best teams in the best conference in college football.  Except that's not true anymore either.

[Pig in the Pokey]

This is what our big brothers in the SEC call "The Big 6", and we aint in it.

[Hogwild]

The year we finally made to the Sugar Bowl, we ended up being the 4th highest ranked team in our division.  That is crazy tough division.

[Billy Bats]

Folks seem to have more pride in the SEC and the West division than they do in their own school. 

[IronHog]

Play dirty, fast, and mean


Earn those penalties

[Hogtimes]

This is why Arkansas is such a tough job.   I can see some up and coming coaches like Venables would pass on the job.   However some like Norvell have reasons to take it.

[DeltaBoy]

We only been in the league since the early 1990's

[Hoggie17]

We can crack the hold of those 6 teams with the right HC. If by some miracle we get Gus we will break into the top elite SEC teams. Maybe with Kiffin.

[hogsanity]

We only been in the league since the early 1990's

26 seasons, 3 seccg appearances, blown out in 2 of those 3. Only finished ranked 5 times in those 26 seasons.

[SchrodingersHog]

Play dirty, fast, and mean


Earn those penalties

You mean like that penalty called by Marc Curles in the 2009 Florida game? 

The SEC protects their marquee programs.  Arkansas is not one of those programs and never will be.

In the eyes of the SEC powers that be, Arkansas has a role to play and it is not winning football championships.

[Inhogswetrust]

(KY retroactively claimed a co-championship with GA in 1977 after KY's loss to MSU was erased via MSU forfeit.) We need one helluva game changer at head coach to climb this mountain. Even though two of the six programs that have a realistic shot at the title are down right now, AL, AU, GA and LSU are pretty damn strong. Leap frogging them ALL is quite the challenge. Something to shoot for, I suppose.

How many in the other P5 conferences have won their respective championship in the timeframe. I bet most only have about half or so as well.

[Hog Fan...DOH!]

This is why Arkansas is such a tough job.   I can see some up and coming coaches like Venables would pass on the job.   However some like Norvell have reasons to take it.

I think either of those guys would take the job.  Venables is from Kansas... went to Kstate under Snyder.  Coached at OU, recruited in Texas and the SE.  Dude knows the territory, and given his Kstate heritage, what it takes to win at Arkansas. 

[Memhogs]

Only Sugar Bowl team finished 2nd in SEC West and Top Five finished 3rd in SEC West.

Even with bestest coach ever who the Yankee fired, Hogs are Second Fiddle in the SEC West.

Keep in mind bama and lsu were stacked that year

[hogsanity]

Keep in mind bama and lsu were stacked that year

One or two of the big 6 in the sec is ALWAYS stacked.

[jkstock04]

Takes the right culture and coach. Someone made mention that only a short time ago Clemson was considered a middle of the pack program like Arkansas was, (before Bielema of course). Now they are elite.

[Pigsrus]

This is what our big brothers in the SEC call "The Big 6", and we aint in it.

Got a feeling Tennessee is about to have their membership card cancelled and never renewed.  Along with Nebraska, there are two once dominant teams relegated to near obscurity for decades to come.  Nebraska because of their location (cold northern school with no recruiting base) and Tenner because their fans are batshite crazy!

[PorkSoda]

Folks seem to have more pride in the SEC and the West division than they do in their own school. 

if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.

the Broyles wanted Arkansas to be a nobody school he would have moved us to a nobody conference.

I have no interest in being compared to memphis or UCF or LA-Monroe, etc.

[Razorback_Mack]

One or two of the big 6 in the sec is ALWAYS stacked.

Sec West had three teams in the top 3 during the last regular season week that year. I don't think that's ever happened. That's beyond stacked.

[Hogdomer]

Only Sugar Bowl team finished 2nd in SEC West and Top Five finished 3rd in SEC West.

Even with bestest coach ever who the Yankee fired, Hogs are Second Fiddle in the SEC West.

We were a dropped punt away from winning the SEC in 2006.  Also, what does any of this have to do with getting back to respectability.  We lost at home to Toledo, TCU and Texas Tech and nearly lost to LA Tech and Coastal Carolina.  We were 11-29 in conference.  Forget winning the SEC, let's be competitive.

[Billy Bats]

if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.

How much longer than 25 years is it going to take to beat the best?

[Hogtimes]

I think either of those guys would take the job.  Venables is from Kansas... went to Kstate under Snyder.  Coached at OU, recruited in Texas and the SE.  Dude knows the territory, and given his Kstate heritage, what it takes to win at Arkansas. 

I agree with what you say about Veneables. He has a lot to offer Arkansas .......but what does
Arkansas offer to get him to take the job.  As I said, this is a tough job, because of recruiting problems and conference schedule. He can probably do better IF he wants a head coaching job

[PorkSoda]

How much longer than 25 years is it going to take to beat the best?

I don't know.  hopefully sooner than later.  should we be afraid of the challenge?  we have beaten the #1 ranked team a couple times, we have played in 3 SECCG's.  we are very capable of competing in the SEC, despite the recent rut we have been in.

[orvillesghost]

I really don't think Arkansas can ever win the SEC, much less a national title even if the new coach was a cross between Nick Saban and Vince Lombardi

You have to keep hoping though, otherwise just fold up the program or go into the Sun Belt or such

[SooieGeneris]

Yeah, and you know it's embarrassing and all but I think we have won or tied for 4 SEC West
titles in the 25 year time span we've been in SEC. Only Bama, Auburn and LSU have won more.
LSU and Auburn not by many.

It took once mighty Florida from 1915 or so till 1991 or so when Steve Spurrier arrived to win
their first outright  SEC Title! That's about 65 years. They won  one in the 80-'s with Galen Hall
as Coach but were stripped of it because of NCAA sanctions.

This. UF had NEVER won the SEC championship until Steve Superior rode in on his golf cart. I guess they should have jumped to the Little 12 like so many say we should..

[orvillesghost]

People talk about how it took the right coach for Florida and LSU to get there but they tend to forget, both those states are hotbeds of talent.

Arkansas isn't.

We not only have to have the once in a lifetime coach but also one who can in someway lift recruiting. So far no coach has been able to do that since we joined the SEC.

[jvanhorn]

Well the track record certainly indicates more of the same.  One reason I am sure Gus will not leave Auburn is that he has got that program built for the long haul.  Just check out the depth and how few seniors he has.  Next years team might very well be better than this years.  And beating Saban is something that will endure him to Auburn fans for a long time.

[moses_007]

Ole Miss hasn't won the SEC since the early 60s when they had Archie Manning at quarterback.

Arkansas has never won it. 

I wonder if Hogs will ever win it.

[jvanhorn]

I really don't think Arkansas can ever win the SEC, much less a national title even if the new coach was a cross between Nick Saban and Vince Lombardi

You have to keep hoping though, otherwise just fold up the program or go into the Sun Belt or such

Sad, but probably a realistic assessment.  I think Arkansas needs to get competitive and be the kind of team that will fight you and earn your respect and that you can't take for granted or you will be sorry.  Do I think they will be ever be a dominating force in the SEC picked to win their division constantly and maybe even better.  Well the last quarter of a century says that is very, very unlikely to happen.

[ChicoHog]

Folks seem to have more pride in the SEC and the West division than they do in their own school. 

Pretty sad.  I don't care if the rest of the teams in our league win the championship.  I want us to win the championship. 

[jvanhorn]

However I am much more optimistic about basketball [even with Kentucky in the league].  Wichita State has shown you get the right 8 players or so you can play with anyone.  And, as far as I am concerned, every year we are a threat to hold a regional and have a decent shot to get to the World Series in baseball.

[ChicoHog]

This. UF had NEVER won the SEC championship until Steve Superior rode in on his golf cart. I guess they should have jumped to the Little 12 like so many say we should..

They were a sleeping giant for sure.  Back in the day there wasn't the recruiting prowess, message boards, constant pressure to win, southeast had not experienced the population boom and growth they have in the last 30 years.  Spurrier was a good coach but I think a lot of coaches would have won there at that time. 

[Hoggie17]

Takes the right culture and coach. Someone made mention that only a short time ago Clemson was considered a middle of the pack program like Arkansas was, (before Bielema of course). Now they are elite.

They were until Dabo came along.  One coach with a good run can change your program.

[jvanhorn]

However I am much more optimistic about basketball [even with Kentucky in the league].  Wichita State has shown you get the right 8 players or so you can play with anyone.  And, as far as I am concerned, every year we are a threat to hold a regional and have a decent shot to get to the World Series in baseball.

At least as long as Van Horn is the coach.  After that who knows.  I guess it will depend on how much of a priority baseball is with the next A.D., but the facilities and the reputation are already in place and it will a job a lot of baseball coaches would like to have.

[JONAS]

(KY retroactively claimed a co-championship with GA in 1977 after KY's loss to MSU was erased via MSU forfeit.) We need one helluva game changer at head coach to climb this mountain. Even though two of the six programs that have a realistic shot at the title are down right now, AL, AU, GA and LSU are pretty damn strong. Leap frogging them ALL is quite the challenge. Something to shoot for, I suppose.

We should have had one in 2006.

[hogsanity]

However I am much more optimistic about basketball [even with Kentucky in the league].  Wichita State has shown you get the right 8 players or so you can play with anyone.  And, as far as I am concerned, every year we are a threat to hold a regional and have a decent shot to get to the World Series in baseball.

Basketball just takes so many fewer players to put a good team on the court, and at least for the foreseeable future there is enough in state talent to sustain the program. Baseball - DVH has done a really good job of convincing some pretty good players to forego the draft out of HS and come to college and play, and gets some pretty good players in state and regionally. Many more quality baseball players available from Mizzu, KS, and Oklahoma than in football.

I don't know.  hopefully sooner than later.  should we be afraid of the challenge?  we have beaten the #1 ranked team a couple times, we have played in 3 SECCG's.  we are very capable of competing in the SEC, despite the recent rut we have been in.

All 3 of those seccg appearances had 2 things in common. 1. The team could play defense. 2. The secw in those seasons was like the sece is now. 

[Hogwild]

Ole Miss hasn't won the SEC since the early 60s when they had Archie Manning at quarterback.

Arkansas has never won it. 

I wonder if Hogs will ever win it.

No, Archie Manning was still in grammer school when Ole Miss last won the SEC, it was the week before JFK was assassinated. Archie wasn't drafted by the Saints until 1971.

[Hogwild]

How many in the other P5 conferences have won their respective championship in the timeframe. I bet most only have about half or so as well.

The Big 10-
In that time frame '64, the original ten and Penn State have all won the conference. 
Since 1990, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Northwestern have all won it multiple times.  Purdue once with Brees. Maryland, Rutgers and Nebraska have not won a Big Ten title

Pac-10/12
Since 1990 Washington, Washington State, Stanford, California, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, and Oregon State have all won a conference title. Colorado and Utah have won conference championships since 1990, but not in the Pac12.

Big 12-
Since 1993 when it was created OU (10), Texas(3) , Baylor (2), Kansas State (2), Nebraska (2) Colorado (1), OK State (1), TCU (1), A&M (1). The only current and still member of the conference that hasn't won a championship would be Kansas, Tech, and Iowa State.

ACC-
Since 1992 Florida State, Miami, Clemson, VA Tech, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Maryland and Wake Forest have all won the ACC.
By the timeframe listed by the OP, it would add Duke, North Carolina, NC State, and South Carolina.

[code red]

(KY retroactively claimed a co-championship with GA in 1977 after KY's loss to MSU was erased via MSU forfeit.) We need one helluva game changer at head coach to climb this mountain. Even though two of the six programs that have a realistic shot at the title are down right now, AL, AU, GA and LSU are pretty damn strong. Leap frogging them ALL is quite the challenge. Something to shoot for, I suppose.

At this point.  We need to start by filling the stadium...then work on championships.

[BroyledNutts]

At this point.  We need to start by filling the stadium...then work on championships.

... and get them to stay for 60 minutes ...