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Realistic replacements for Bielema
« on: October 11, 2017, 11:29:34 pm »

Long time reader,first time poster. I apologize if there’s already a thread on this somewhere. I’m on board with parting ways with Bielema at seasons end, regardless of the buyout. It’s year 5 and we’ve declined the last part of last season and this season and in year 5 that’s not what we should be seeing. He claims that it’s not coaching, yet the development of players. Well I hate to break it to him, but that kinda falls on him as the head coach. Bottom line is if we don’t get rid of Bielema after this season we’re only going to keep declining as a football program. I say all of that to ask who everyone sees as a realistic option as the next Arkansas Razorback football coach. Jon Gruden is not walking through that door and neither is Chip Kelly. I’ve got a realistic top 5 list and you can take it or leave it, to some it might not be realistic but I’d be interested to see everyone’s realistic top 5 candidate list. Mine is as follows:
1. Mike Leach
2. Les Miles
3. Charlie Strong
4. Mike Norvell
5. Brent Venables

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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 11:53:39 pm »

I never thought Les Miles was that good at LSU with all that talent. He would fail.  Charlie Strong could not make it at Texas in a weaker league. I would cross those 2 off the list and add Jeff Brohm.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 11:58:49 pm »

I'm glad someone finally asked this question
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 12:02:23 am »

I'm glad someone finally asked this question
Yes it's definitely something that needs to be getting more discussion. lol
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 12:07:25 am »

Same old silliness.

Put “Realistic” before something and expect a different response.

Maybe they should start doing that before ACA repeal bills. That should do the trick.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2017, 12:08:07 am »


you want to find a coach that's going to have his best years at arkansas, not HAD his best years at another school and is now coaching arkansas.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2017, 12:13:23 am »

The first 3 names on that list would be major screw up hires!  Leach never had a defense and with no D, losing will become the norm in the SEC.  Les Miles is an idiot and couldn’t do anything with all that talent at LSU, so what do you think he could do with less talent at UA.  And Strong, please, I definitely don’t want a UT has been and he stunk up the program at UT any way. 
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 12:19:12 am »

The first 3 names on that list would be major screw up hires!  Leach never had a defense and with no D, losing will become the norm in the SEC.  Les Miles is an idiot and couldn’t do anything with all that talent at LSU, so what do you think he could do with less talent at UA.  And Strong, please, I definitely don’t want a UT has been and he stunk up the program at UT any way.

Can’t be any worse at defense than the bafoon we have now.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 12:21:24 am »

Leach, man, LEACH!!
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 12:24:48 am »

Leach and maybe Norvell are the only ones win a track record of success without talent.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 12:28:28 am »

Can’t be any worse at defense than the bafoon we have now.

Just don’t see Leach, the closet king, at UA...  Plus, he is so far out there, Hog fans would fall out of love with him very quickly.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 12:54:12 am »

Just don’t see Leach, the closet king, at UA...  Plus, he is so far out there, Hog fans would fall out of love with him very quickly.

There were some questions about all that stuff at Tech. Don’t believe everything you hear in the media.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 01:04:39 am »

1. Venables
2. Kyle Whittngham
3. Norvell
4. Skip Holtz
5. Mike Leach
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 01:56:46 am »

mike norvell
scott frost
chad morris
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 01:59:05 am »

I like Tee Martin also someone is going to give him a chance.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 05:53:59 am »

 Mark Hudspeth
 Bryan Harsin
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2017, 06:10:18 am »

Matt Campbell
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2017, 06:14:12 am »

Leach never had a defense and with no D, losing will become the norm in the SEC.   

Petrino and Willy Robinson says hello....
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2017, 06:20:27 am »

Petrino and Willy Robinson says hello....

Is Willy in witness protection program
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2017, 06:27:40 am »

Is Willy in witness protection program

Think he is out looking for the real estate he bought from John L
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2017, 06:31:38 am »

Jeff Brohm.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 06:41:50 am »

Charles Rene Strong. 58 years old. Current coach of USF Bulls who are 5-0 this season. Knows the SEC. Architect of killer Gamecock and Gator defenses. As Head Coach of Louisville led school to BCS Sugar Bowl win. Outstanding Recruiter with deep connections to fertile Florida and Texas regions. Demands player accountability. You will have your ass in class. Born and raised in Arkansas.

Oh, and Texas still owes him $5 - $7 million. So that subsidizes his salary here, which can be used to pay off CBB.

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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 06:59:12 am »

you want to find a coach that's going to have his best years at arkansas, not HAD his best years at another school and is now coaching arkansas.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 07:01:15 am »

The first 3 names on that list would be major screw up hires!  Leach never had a defense and with no D, losing will become the norm in the SEC.  Les Miles is an idiot and couldn’t do anything with all that talent at LSU, so what do you think he could do with less talent at UA.  And Strong, please, I definitely don’t want a UT has been and he stunk up the program at UT any way. 


Leach has a really good defense this season.

Porkatarian out...
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 07:13:16 am »

Charlie Strong? Might as well keep Bielema as hire him. Finding someone who wants this dumpster fire that Long has created won't be easy. Norvell, Brohm or Frost might take the job if offered and possibly do well, who knows, only thing for sure is we are at the bottom of the SEC now #14.
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 07:18:15 am »

One of the ways I judge a coach is how he does with a losing program. James Franklin came at Vandy and won, by Vandy standards it was big.  I knew he could win anywhere.  I wanted him as our next HC, but Long had better ideas. Jeff Brohm has had success at every stop.  He has turned Purdue around and it didn't take 5 years.  Mike Leach has Washington State at 6-0 this year. He is a little odd but a winner.

My choice is Jeff Brohm, if you can win at Purdue, you can win anywhere.  He will be an elite coach, and we can get him.  Let's not let another coach of his ability make his name at another school.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 am »


Leach has a really good defense this season.

Porkatarian out...

But in his career has that happened very often? Probably not. Maybe it's an anomaly.
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2017, 07:45:21 am »

One of the ways I judge a coach is how he does with a losing program. James Franklin came at Vandy and won, by Vandy standards it was big.  I knew he could win anywhere.  I wanted him as our next HC, but Long had better ideas. Jeff Brohm has had success at every stop.  He has turned Purdue around and it didn't take 5 years.  Mike Leach has Washington State at 6-0 this year. He is a little odd but a winner.

My choice is Jeff Brohm, if you can win at Purdue, you can win anywhere.  He will be an elite coach, and we can get him.  Let's not let another coach of his ability make his name at another school.
Agree with everything here, except Leach. Add Norvell and Campbell.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2017, 07:52:35 am »

PJ Fleck, Matt Campbell, Justin Fuente.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2017, 08:14:14 am »

1. Jeff Brohm
2. Some 30-35 year old guy that has never coached a major program but is on his way up. (See Sean McVay - LA Rams)
3. Not any retread/retired coach in the country.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2017, 08:24:17 am »

1. Jeff Brohm
2. Some 30-35 year old guy that has never coached a major program but is on his way up. (See Sean McVay - LA Rams)
3. Not any retread/retired coach in the country.
Agreed..I've said this over and over..CAN'T BE SAID ENOUGH.
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2017, 08:33:10 am »

I like Tee Martin also someone is going to give him a chance.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Martin replace Butch Jones.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2017, 08:38:08 am »

I'd bet money that the hire will come out of left field
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2017, 08:48:34 am »

Lane Kiffin
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2017, 08:49:47 am »

Venables and Brohm both seem to me in high demand. Stars raising. Doubt either would be serious candidates for a potential Hog opening. 
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2017, 09:35:24 am »

Did you say LESS MILES?
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2017, 09:49:09 am »

PJ Fleck, Matt Campbell, Justin Fuente.

That's a great list. Either would be yuge
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2017, 09:56:08 am »

Realistically:  Norvell
                    Brohm
                    Morris
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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2017, 10:00:35 am »

One of the ways I judge a coach is how he does with a losing program. James Franklin came at Vandy and won, by Vandy standards it was big.  I knew he could win anywhere.  I wanted him as our next HC, but Long had better ideas. Jeff Brohm has had success at every stop.  He has turned Purdue around and it didn't take 5 years.  Mike Leach has Washington State at 6-0 this year. He is a little odd but a winner.

My choice is Jeff Brohm, if you can win at Purdue, you can win anywhere.  He will be an elite coach, and we can get him.  Let's not let another coach of his ability make his name at another school.

Could it be that there were stipulations such as a non-compete clause with Franklin?
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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2017, 10:04:07 am »

what are you going to do if they don't make a move?
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2017, 10:10:22 am »

Venables and Brohm both seem to me in high demand. Stars raising. Doubt either would be serious candidates for a potential Hog opening. 

Brohm is already a head coach so I doubt he'd come. I've heard that Venables wanted the Arkansas job when Bret was hired so I believe he'd come for the right money.
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2017, 10:10:43 am »

“The first 3 names on that list would be major screw up hires!  Leach never had a defense and with no D, losing will become the norm in the SEC.  Les Miles is an idiot and couldn’t do anything with all that talent at LSU, so what do you think he could do with less talent at UA.  And Strong, please, I definitely don’t want a UT has been and he stunk up the program at UT any way.”

What do you mean Les Miles couldn’t do anything at LSU? He was a great recruiter and he definitely did his fair share of winning. 114-34 record at LSU. Won the SEC twice and won a National Championship. That beats what we’ve done at Arkansas by a long shot. Just because you don’t like him, doesn’t make him a good coach. He may be different, but he’s a good coach and he’s won at the highest level.
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2017, 10:11:04 am »

Brohm is already a head coach so I doubt he'd come. I've heard that Venables wanted the Arkansas job when Bret was hired so I believe he'd come for the right money.


Where did you hear that?
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2017, 10:11:29 am »

1. Venables
2. Mike leach
3. Blake Anderson
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2017, 10:13:19 am »

Yes it's definitely something that needs to be getting more discussion. lol
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« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2017, 10:13:30 am »


Leach has a really good defense this season.

Porkatarian out...

Leach also recruits the HECK out of california. And Washington state is within spitting distance of California. Might be tough to get those types of athletes.

However. He has Texas ties. And he knows how to recruit the south.
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« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2017, 10:15:13 am »

Dowell Loggains

Kevin Kelley

Ken Niumatalolo

Mike Yurcich

Jeff Brohm


my submission for realistic list
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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2017, 10:48:52 am »

Mike Norvell  (36 years old)

The more I read about this guy, the more I like him...

http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/sports/breaking-down-new-memphis-football-coach-mike-norvell-s-offense/article_b0c27d5c-9b8a-11e5-92a0-ffa0b72f4194.html

“We’re going to play fast,” Norvell said at his introductory press conference Friday. “On offense we’re going to take what the defense gives us. We plan on being very balanced – I believe in that. I believe in being able to run the football, and then taking vertical shots over the top.”

Memphis plays Navy on Saturday at 2:45 on ESPNU.  It should be more entertaining than the game at 6:30.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2017, 11:14:02 am »

Mike Norvell  (36 years old)

The more I read about this guy, the more I like him...

http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/sports/breaking-down-new-memphis-football-coach-mike-norvell-s-offense/article_b0c27d5c-9b8a-11e5-92a0-ffa0b72f4194.html

“We’re going to play fast,” Norvell said at his introductory press conference Friday. “On offense we’re going to take what the defense gives us. We plan on being very balanced – I believe in that. I believe in being able to run the football, and then taking vertical shots over the top.”

Memphis plays Navy on Saturday at 2:45 on ESPNU.  It should be more entertaining than the game at 6:30.


I like the sound of his offense a whole lot better than the travesty we're currently running.
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Re: Realistic replacements for Bielema
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2017, 11:27:16 am »


I like the sound of his offense a whole lot better than the travesty we're currently running.

sounds like the coach speak just about every 35-45 yr old coach at g5 schools running the spread would say.
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