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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2017, 11:29:29 am »

Where do you think the $ comes from for moving these 2 out?  And North end zone upgrades, practice facilities, boxes, etc.? 

Fact.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2017, 11:29:32 am »

That's ridiculous, our program operated well under Coach Broyles, Coach Mathews, Terry Don, Chuck Dicus, and Harold Horton GOBN's all. Wish Harold, Don, and Timmy were still around.

Nutt era worked well? 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2017, 11:31:00 am »

Where do you think the $ comes from for moving these 2 out?  And North end zone upgrades, practice facilities, boxes, etc.?

I’m going to bet those that Long removed power from aren’t the ones he’s getting to pay for these upgrades.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2017, 11:38:33 am »


please please please include punting jeff long.
Either that or hire a search party.  Jeff Long needs a coach.  He seems to prefer facilitators.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2017, 11:40:54 am »

Season's end

Porkatarian out...

Hope you're right, but I don't think this is anything that's not already known.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2017, 11:44:41 am »

Thank you for this.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2017, 11:44:54 am »

Go Hogs!
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2017, 11:46:04 am »

Nutt era worked well? 


Nutt was a disaster, but Coach Broyles, Lou Holtz, and Kenny were not all that bad. If Danny Ford could have stayed another year we would have been far better than turning his national championship constructed team over to Nutt.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2017, 11:46:52 am »



Nutt was a disaster, but Coach Broyles, Lou Holtz, and Kenny were not all that bad. If Danny Ford could have stayed another year we would have been far better than turning his national championship constructed team over to Nutt.

Danny told me himself he would have liked to coach that talent one more year. Coach Broyles let his relationship with Nutt's father affect his decision making process and he made a terrible choice.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2017, 11:47:24 am »

I love the cryptic post season.

For real, i do...!
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2017, 11:47:32 am »



Nutt was a disaster, but Coach Broyles, Lou Holtz, and Kenny were not all that bad. If Danny Ford could have stayed another year we would have been far better than turning his national championship constructed team over to Nutt.

check your stats.... they were awesome, especially Holtz who had us sniffing at the NC in 1977-1978...........
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2017, 11:52:24 am »

Go Jeff Go!!
Go Bret Go!!

Far away
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2017, 11:55:22 am »

check your stats.... they were awesome, especially Holtz who had us sniffing at the NC in 1977-1978...........

My point exactly, if not for Steve Atwater dropping a sure interception at number 1 Miami in 1988 we would have been undefeated and probably playing for the national title that year. I do not understand this constant bashing of the GOBN. We got rid of the which brought us Jeffie.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2017, 11:55:25 am »

calm down hes just talking about the weather
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2017, 11:57:19 am »

North Endzone will be a JFB shrine after Gene and Charlotte finish with it.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2017, 11:58:23 am »

North Endzone will be a JFB shrine after Gene and Charlotte finish with it.

As well it should be.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2017, 11:58:40 am »

My point exactly, if not for Steve Atwater dropping a sure interception at number 1 Miami in 1988 we would have been undefeated and probably playing for the national title that year.

we should still claim it as no one, not even the "selected" NC, was undefeated., and if we would or could have played them, we would have beaten them by at least two scores.............
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2017, 11:59:57 am »

My point exactly, if not for Steve Atwater dropping a sure interception at number 1 Miami in 1988 we would have been undefeated and probably playing for the national title that year. I do not understand this constant bashing of the GOBN. We got rid of the which brought us Jeffie.

Because it wasn't about what happened in the 80s.  It was the Harrod saga and the Nutt era. 

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2017, 12:16:00 pm »

That's ridiculous, our program operated well under Coach Broyles, Coach Mathews, Terry Don, Chuck Dicus, and Harold Horton GOBN's all. Wish Harold, Don, and Timmy were still around. Timmy might be a good choice for our next head coach being, as Gus is no longer an option.

I guess you were in a coma for Crowe, Kines, Ford, the Bizaro Nutt error, and the systematic harassment of Nolan, the hiring of Heath, the one day tenure of Dana Altman, and the hiring of Pelphrey, the firing of Gary Blair because he was a man?

That's your idea of operating well?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2017, 12:17:36 pm »

I guess you were in a coma for Crowe, Kines, Ford, the Bizaro Nutt error, and the systematic harassment of Nolan, the hiring of Heath, the one day tenure of Dana Altman, and the hiring of Pelphrey, the firing of Gary Blair because he was a man?

That's your idea of operating well?

I wasn't even going to mention the basketball mismanagement. 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2017, 12:28:12 pm »

Nutt era worked well? 

Actually better than the Beliema era.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2017, 12:30:06 pm »

I guess you were in a coma for Crowe, Kines, Ford, the Bizaro Nutt error, and the systematic harassment of Nolan, the hiring of Heath, the one day tenure of Dana Altman, and the hiring of Pelphrey, the firing of Gary Blair because he was a man?

That's your idea of operating well?

Richardson was a racist that was begging to be fired.  He ended up being an embarrassment.

Regardless, we had success then.  We don't now.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2017, 12:30:16 pm »

Two maybe three assistants changed and they can say they gave him a chance and they saved $11-15 million...probably not the change the masses are clamoring for but it will be change...these are all guesses so don't think I have inside sources...just thinking like money people here
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2017, 12:31:59 pm »

Actually better than the Beliema era.

Not from an admin standpoint which is this conversation.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2017, 12:37:36 pm »

I guess you were in a coma for Crowe, Kines, Ford, the Bizaro Nutt error, and the systematic harassment of Nolan, the hiring of Heath, the one day tenure of Dana Altman, and the hiring of Pelphrey, the firing of Gary Blair because he was a man?

That's your idea of operating well?

John White ran Blair off..That is a fact.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2017, 12:39:14 pm »

Danny told me himself he would have liked to coach that talent one more year. Coach Broyles let his relationship with Nutt's father affect his decision making process and he made a terrible choice.
Half right.
Yes, he should have let Danny Ford have another year.
But, no, Houston Nutt was NOT Coach Broyles’s choice.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2017, 12:40:06 pm »

North Endzone will be a JFB shrine after Gene and Charlotte finish with it.
They can do some fixin up for sure.....
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2017, 12:41:17 pm »

I’m good with change. I just hope it isn’t the return of the GOBN. If Long has done anything right it’s strangling those folks power away from them and ensuring they can’t get it back.
GOBN is actually how our entire nation operates anyway. Just hope to get the right GOB.

Porkatarian is fun. He is like our war time consigniere (sp). Hell, it's Italian, you know.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2017, 12:42:14 pm »

Because it wasn't about what happened in the 80s.  It was the Harrod saga and the Nutt era. 



Well then you had better include John White and his committee.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #79 on: October 11, 2017, 12:43:26 pm »

John White ran Blair off..That is a fact.

He also hired Nutt.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #80 on: October 11, 2017, 12:48:29 pm »

The Yota has spoken
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2017, 12:59:22 pm »

Isn't it ironic that if the GOBN is back in play that it will have been Jeff Long that created the environment to make it happen?  Talk about Irony.

p.s.  I sure hope this doesn't mean we will continue to play in a dump in Little Rock each year with 30-40,000 people in attendance, 100,000 drunks on the golf course and a beautifully redesigned stadium sitting empty in Fayetteville.

we probably wont, just bc times are changing.

but keep in mind.  it only became 30-40k crowds once we had an AD who strategically made sure that would be the case and a coach who bitched about it from day 1... then put a team on the field who played like he had just woken them up from a nap.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2017, 01:00:05 pm »

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2017, 01:05:44 pm »

Richardson was a racist that was begging to be fired.  He ended up being an embarrassment.

Regardless, we had success then.  We don't now.
He’s way less racist than you are. And way less of an embarrassment. luckiky we don’t care much about bama fans.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2017, 01:12:31 pm »

Nutt era worked well?

Don't blame these guys for Nutt.  They had Butch Davis ready in the wings who was willing to give complete control of the offense over to Gus.  Nutt accepted the terms for saving his job in 06, then threw everyone under the bus after we beat Auburn. 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2017, 01:21:10 pm »

Don't blame these guys for Nutt.  They had Butch Davis ready in the wings who was willing to give complete control of the offense over to Gus.  Nutt accepted the terms for saving his job in 06, then threw everyone under the bus after we beat Auburn. 

One can only wonder what might have been with such a scenario......
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2017, 01:27:22 pm »

No offense but I will believe it when I see it. It was obvious after Petrino that the leaks do not come easy these days. A lot of educated guess but I wouldn't get my hopes up based on a vague message board post.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2017, 01:43:07 pm »

The Yota has spoken

We have a truck that speaks?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2017, 01:48:27 pm »

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2017, 01:55:18 pm »

Are we talking Jeff Long or Bret Bielema? I don't think Jeff Long will fire Bielema especially because of the buyout. Too much of a business man.
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« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2017, 02:00:01 pm »

Are we talking Jeff Long or Bret Bielema? I don't think Jeff Long will fire Bielema especially because of the buyout. Too much of a business man.

Neither. We're talking weather. Kind of a chilly day in NWA.
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« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2017, 02:01:05 pm »

We allowed the outlier in our football history - HDN’s behavior - to scrub virtually every Arkansan from the Broyles Complex. Having a history within our program suddenly labeled you as part of the “Good ol’ Boy Network.”

That sound like a reasonable reaction to have had?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2017, 02:02:39 pm »

We allowed the outlier in our football history - HDN’s behavior - to scrub virtually every Arkansan from the Broyles Complex. Having a history within our program suddenly labeled you as part of the “Good ol’ Boy Network.”

That sound like a reasonable reaction to have had?

Like being a former Hog player or graduate is somehow now a bad thing......
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2017, 02:05:16 pm »

I said awhile back that we are still a broken fanbase from all the HDN stuff.  Petrino's winning could have fixed it, but that went down the road, literally. 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2017, 02:06:06 pm »

i dunno who is in the BAC but you see lots of former players/graduates on the sidelines.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2017, 02:11:00 pm »

I guess you were in a coma for Crowe, Kines, Ford, the Bizaro Nutt error, and the systematic harassment of Nolan, the hiring of Heath, the one day tenure of Dana Altman, and the hiring of Pelphrey, the firing of Gary Blair because he was a man?

That's your idea of operating well?

Crow, Kines, and Ford were Frank's hires (I still believe Kines got a dirty deal and should have gotten more time).

John White was respo0nsible for:

1. Nutt's hiring
2. Nolan's termination
3, Running Gary Blair off
4. Dana Altman's quick exit
5. Hiring Pelphrey.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2017, 02:12:54 pm »

Like being a former Hog player or graduate is somehow now a bad thing......

If it enabled what happened with Nutt and kept Frank as AD long past when he should have retired.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2017, 02:23:08 pm »

Well we can only hope any changes are actually positive for once.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #98 on: October 11, 2017, 02:26:31 pm »

Crow, Kines, and Ford were Frank's hires (I still believe Kines got a dirty deal and should have gotten more time).

John White was respo0nsible for:

1. Nutt's hiring
2. Nolan's termination
3, Running Gary Blair off
4. Dana Altman's quick exit
5. Hiring Pelphrey.
6. Stan Heath
7. no Bill Self
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2017, 02:27:29 pm »

We allowed the outlier in our football history - HDN’s behavior - to scrub virtually every Arkansan from the Broyles Complex. Having a history within our program suddenly labeled you as part of the “Good ol’ Boy Network.”

That sound like a reasonable reaction to have had?
Great point and post.
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