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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #250 on: October 12, 2017, 01:57:49 pm »

We could hire Brohm now and win 9 games next year.  I truly believe that based on what he is doing with freaking Purdue.  Saw Franklin at Vanderbilt doing the same thing.  Look where Penn State is when they should be dead.  I think Brohm is the real deal.  May take a few years seasoning, but I think he could be a good one.

I agree i think Brohm would have a better than avg. shot.  Comes back to money here i believe he has the hefty buyout as well being in his first year at Purdue.  I mean that whole swap could be upwards of 50 mil when all said and done getting CBB out bringing Brohm in.

Man this thing is stupid expensive.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #251 on: October 12, 2017, 01:59:04 pm »

Exactly...and that made it pretty easy on the NCAA

Hugh and Ole Missy did, just sayin.........

Wasn't long ago that we had some fans telling us that if Ole Miss can recruit that good then we should.  They were shutting down everybody's claims about the Rebels cheating.  They said the reason Ole Miss was recruiting better was because Hugh was a hard worker and damn good recruiter.  They even mentioned these videos as being a big reason the rebs were recruiting better:

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #252 on: October 12, 2017, 02:04:23 pm »

I agree i think Brohm would have a better than avg. shot.  Comes back to money here i believe he has the hefty buyout as well being in his first year at Purdue.  I mean that whole swap could be upwards of 50 mil when all said and done getting CBB out bringing Brohm in.

Man this thing is stupid expensive.

Brohm has a 4 million dollar buyout. That's not a bad deal if we could get him
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #253 on: October 12, 2017, 02:10:48 pm »

Wasn't long ago that we had some fans telling us that if Ole Miss can recruit that good then we should.  They were shutting down everybody's claims about the Rebels cheating.  They said the reason Ole Miss was recruiting better was because Hugh was a hard worker and damn good recruiter.  They even mentioned these videos as being a big reason the rebs were recruiting better:


lol I remember the stupid videos thread.


Videos and hookers, I guess,  is all it was.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #254 on: October 12, 2017, 02:23:13 pm »

Do you really think recruiting is going to be any better by having a lame duck coach. We have to show that we are willing to try to win.
Exactly. Thank you.

This is a naive question, I suppose. Do other fan bases have the excuses that ours does?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #255 on: October 12, 2017, 02:27:16 pm »

again yall like to throw around the "empty seats line" i was there when we lost to Citadel, and while it wasn't a sell out people are going to go to the games.  This is just a fact.

btw Petrino isn't coming back here, and even if he did we still aren't beating Bama.
I was at many games in Little Rock in the early 90's and the attendance was terrible. And Little Rock packed them in before this.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #256 on: October 12, 2017, 02:48:04 pm »

It's really shocking how much he's improved the play at Purdue in under a year - I think he was hired in January 2017.
He may be good but he's beaten Ohio, not Ohio State, Minnesota and Missouri while losing to Louisville and Michigan
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #257 on: October 12, 2017, 02:49:47 pm »

He may be good but he's beaten Ohio, not Ohio State, Minnesota and Missouri while losing to Louisville and Michigan

you mean that type of production isn't worth 20 to 50 million dollars?  /mindblown
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #258 on: October 12, 2017, 02:52:30 pm »

One Big 10 coaching experiment was enough.  No more, please!
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #259 on: October 12, 2017, 02:55:36 pm »

One Big 10 coaching experiment was enough.  No more, please!

I wish LSU had said this before they hired Saben
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #260 on: October 12, 2017, 02:56:31 pm »

One Big 10 coaching experiment was enough.  No more, please!
I don't think that the conference has anything to do with it.

I would take James Franklin, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Jeff Braum, Mark D'antonio in a minute.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #261 on: October 12, 2017, 03:04:16 pm »

I don't think that the conference has anything to do with it.

I would take James Franklin, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Jeff Braum, Mark D'antonio in a minute.

one of these guys is not like the others.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #262 on: October 12, 2017, 03:12:59 pm »

one of these guys is not like the others.
They are all good coaches and from the Big 10. It was a response to another post about, "no more big 10 coaches".
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #263 on: October 12, 2017, 03:15:05 pm »

They are all good coaches and from the Big 10. It was a response to another post about, "no more big 10 coaches".

yeah i saw the chain just saying you listed BCS game at least winning coaches none of which there is even a 1% chance leave their current jobs to come here, and then there is Brohm a 1 year HC from Purdue.

He isn't in the same class as the others you listed.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #264 on: October 12, 2017, 03:16:28 pm »

yeah i saw the chain just saying you listed BCS game at least winning coaches none of which there is even a 1% chance leave their current jobs to come here, and then there is Brohm a 1 year HC from Purdue.

He isn't in the same class as the others you listed.
Well, not yet anyway...
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #265 on: October 12, 2017, 03:28:10 pm »


OK smart@ss, I'm saying that Beilema won't be our coach next season.  Is that vague enough for you?


Porkatarian out...
Dilly dilly.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #266 on: October 13, 2017, 04:25:30 pm »


It would be awesome if JL would head to NE after the Auburn game.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #267 on: October 13, 2017, 04:43:50 pm »

lol I remember the stupid videos thread.


Videos and hookers, I guess,  is all it was.

I do like that video series though, I wish we did something like that.  Not sure that it helps recruiting, but it can't hurt.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #268 on: October 13, 2017, 05:36:48 pm »

I do like that video series though, I wish we did something like that.  Not sure that it helps recruiting, but it can't hurt.

Something to help recruiting in Texas.  No reason Okie Lite should ever ever ever recruit TX better than the Hogs.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #269 on: October 19, 2017, 09:41:23 am »

Pork.  You still feel this way?  Some are concerned there will be no change.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #270 on: October 19, 2017, 09:50:21 am »

One Big 10 coaching experiment was enough.  No more, please!

He's in the Big 10 now, but he learned under Petrino.  Brohm is my number 1 "realistic" option.  Chip Kelly number one on my wish list.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #271 on: October 19, 2017, 10:07:50 am »

My thoughts are that both Bert and Long will be gone by the end of next year.  Bert will be fired or resign and Long will move on after having his wings clipped.

I don’t buy this theory. Long will not leave with the NEZ unfinished.

Swineology out
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #272 on: October 19, 2017, 10:09:13 am »

Something to help recruiting in Texas.  No reason Okie Lite should ever ever ever recruit TX better than the Hogs.

Except they play in a league with with 4 Texas teams, and have done so for closing in on 30 years. To todays recruits Okie St has a much more visable and known tradition than do the Hogs.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #273 on: October 19, 2017, 10:17:10 am »

Except they play in a league with with 4 Texas teams, and have done so for closing in on 30 years. To todays recruits Okie St has a much more visable and known tradition than do the Hogs.
That's true.

I'm reminded of our basketball recruits who say they never knew Scotty Thurman made the NCAA tournament game winning shot. Things that happened in the 90s are irrelevant to today's players, and things that happened prior to 2010 are largely unknown.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #274 on: October 19, 2017, 10:48:42 am »

everyone is wanting beilema gone after 5 years, most wanting him gone after 3 years...but are willing to give Anderson untold years to get things done... double standard??
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #275 on: October 19, 2017, 10:52:24 am »

I don’t buy this theory. Long will not leave with the NEZ unfinished.

Swineology out

So he's the construction forman too! 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #276 on: October 19, 2017, 10:54:49 am »

everyone is wanting beilema gone after 5 years, most wanting him gone after 3 years...but are willing to give Anderson untold years to get things done... double standard??

I don't think football and basketball have much to do with each other.  The diehards are a different group of people but everyone knows football is by far the most important.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #277 on: October 19, 2017, 10:55:40 am »

                                                                       BREAKING NEWS!!!
                                                              Hogs to moving to the Sun Belt

Change you can believe in   
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #278 on: October 19, 2017, 10:57:31 am »

                                                                       BREAKING NEWS!!!
                                                              Hogs to moving to the Sun Belt

Change you can believe in

No thanks. Bret would be La Monroe's whipping boy.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #279 on: October 19, 2017, 11:01:31 am »

I do like that video series though, I wish we did something like that.  Not sure that it helps recruiting, but it can't hurt.
In today's media environment, it's not just about quality of advertising, but also cadence, timeliness and relevance. You have to keep catching those teen eyeballs and redirecting them to your brand.

You can't just cut a cool hype video and wait for the recruits to roll in. You need to get positive press out there in the traditional methods (coaches on ESPN, national sports radio, etc) but also into all other channels.

Short, cool, crisp, ubiquitous.

CBB embracing Twitter and feeling authentic there is actually an example but far from fully adequate. And it all has to be part of a plan.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #280 on: October 19, 2017, 11:22:02 am »

10 days later........nothings changed.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #281 on: October 19, 2017, 11:26:24 am »

everyone is wanting beilema gone after 5 years, most wanting him gone after 3 years...but are willing to give Anderson untold years to get things done... double standard??

Everybody knew CMA was a great coach, Bielema not even a mediocre coach. He was Alvarez's choir boy.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #282 on: October 19, 2017, 11:38:32 am »

CMA "almost loses" too much.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #283 on: October 19, 2017, 02:23:10 pm »

cma is not a great coach..never has been never will be
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #284 on: October 19, 2017, 02:31:11 pm »

                                                                       BREAKING NEWS!!!
                                                              Hogs to moving to the Sun Belt

Change you can believe in   

If this happened, I'm thinking we could shrink seating in the stadium to about 50K and probably won't need the all the luxury boxes in the new NEZ.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #285 on: October 19, 2017, 03:24:48 pm »

10 days later........nothings changed.

Nor will it, at least till the end of the season.

I actually doubt anything of substance happens then, other than a few more assistants get tired of this mess and leave on their own.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #286 on: October 19, 2017, 04:15:52 pm »

10 days later........nothings changed.

Why would you expect it to?  One of the blasts from the past who started a recent thread...  The time from his original post on Nutt leaving until Nutt was fired was something like 13-15 months.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #287 on: October 19, 2017, 04:18:50 pm »

BB won't be fired until after the season ends.  But fired he will be.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #288 on: October 19, 2017, 04:24:46 pm »

BB won't be fired until after the season ends.  But fired he will be.
I wouldn't make a huge bet on it. (It sickens me to post that)
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #289 on: October 19, 2017, 04:32:53 pm »

I wouldn't make a huge bet on it. (It sickens me to post that)

Nah.

Joe Steinmetz will pull a John White and take the hiring authority away from Jeff Long and hire a 5-6 FCS coach.

Book it.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #290 on: October 19, 2017, 04:39:10 pm »

I think that change is in the air in Knoxville and Oxford for sure, and only probable here if we win 4 games or less.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #291 on: October 19, 2017, 04:42:40 pm »

Nah.

Joe Steinmetz will pull a John White and take the hiring authority away from Jeff Long and hire a 5-6 FCS coach.

Book it.

Not what I hear. Its done.

One interesting thing could happen and that is that Jeff Long don't sign the contract in front of him which could mean he is serious about leaving this place. Probably not much of a possibility but hey its bout all we got.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #292 on: October 19, 2017, 04:44:50 pm »

Not what I hear. Its done.
Which portion?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #293 on: October 19, 2017, 04:47:48 pm »

Which portion?
 8)
Long stays for sure n Bielema is his guy atleast thru 2018.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #294 on: October 19, 2017, 04:51:07 pm »

Not what I hear. Its done.

One interesting thing could happen and that is that Jeff Long don't sign the contract in front of him which could mean he is serious about leaving this place. Probably not much of a possibility but hey its bout all we got.
I've heard the same. As of yesterday per what I was told...I'm 99% convinced we can win 3 games this year and Bielema is still here in 2018. Fun times.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #295 on: October 19, 2017, 04:51:33 pm »

Long stays for sure n Bielema is his guy atleast thru 2018.
Nah. What I heard was that the Chancellor wants to make the hire, just like John White.

Hearing Chattanooga Mocs HC - Tom Arth is the guy

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #296 on: October 19, 2017, 04:56:59 pm »

The folks that my info comes from don't spend lots of time with this sorta thing. I don't pry very often. Once in a while they know I'd be wondering bout this kinda situation and they'll tell me what they know. Last week it was one thing and now its been shut down.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #297 on: October 19, 2017, 05:19:40 pm »

Good Lord if you want Bielema gone and think he should be fired this year.  Just wait.  If he's as bad as you think he is, season isn't going to get much better.  Things only died down because  the Bama game wasn't a total S show and by that it was basically as expected probably since the beginning of the season, no better, no worse.  This little light of mine was Cole Kelley and he didn't get decapitated.

Things change week to week and we have 1/2 a season left.  Look who has moved on (Ed O) then off the hot seat.  Gus started somewhat on, then moved off, now is back on.  Sumlin's has cooled but all that could changed by the end of the season. 

The talk was probably settled down because there was no way in H they were making a change mid season so some PTB that were grousing were probably told to let the season play out, but if you are on the side of change by the end of 2017 don't let that deter you, just wait.  But waiting does not mean change your mind it or get discouraged because there isn't a presser at 4 after the Auburn game.  It means wait until November 24.

A Bama loss outside of  60+ hammering was not going to cause fervor.  An Auburn loss to the guy some may have preferred over Bret will start it back up, especially since that would make his record against AU 1-5.  Although Auburn has a bad second half against LSU they looked very strong for the most part before that.  LSU is getting better now that Ed O has been told to stick to being a cheerleader.  MSU got back on track, OM get a conference win and can put up some yards, and is playing hard for Matt Luke.  Missouri is the should win game but hell we were playing much better last year and still managed to choke that one away. 

Again if you are in the Bert must go camp that is no need to despair.  His results, his coaching, his chances from here forward, his less than expected buyout all point in your favor.  The thing to do is keep bringing the heat.  Don't let anyone think you have settled or are fine with 3.5 GPAs and 3.5 wins per year.  If you want it to happen have to bring the heat every week.  Can't take an off week like Bert does from time to time.  So go out there make your vision board.  Put a picture of Bert in a Uhaul on it and then a picture of the new stadium rendering with whoever your top choice is for coach.  Look at it hard every damn day and it will happen.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #298 on: October 19, 2017, 05:27:09 pm »


If BB wins out then sure, he'll stay if he wants.  How many on this board think he's capable of winning out.  No way in hell.

He'll finish 4-8 or 5-7 and be shown the door.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #299 on: October 19, 2017, 05:28:10 pm »

Can't take an off week like Bert does from time to time.  So go out there make your vision board.  Put a picture of Bert in a Uhaul on it and then a picture of the new stadium rendering with whoever your top choice is for coach.  Look at it hard every damn day and it will happen.
Patience ???

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