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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #150 on: October 11, 2017, 06:20:07 pm »

This is the most vague post ever on this board.

Didn't you notice the fall weather today.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #151 on: October 11, 2017, 06:27:17 pm »

I'm still waiting on Chris Petersen to Fayetteville after porks post from 5 years ago.

He'd fit right in in Fayetteville, since ESPN hates him......
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #152 on: October 11, 2017, 06:30:17 pm »

I may be in the minority, but as time passes, my opinion of Nutt has gotten more favorable.

He had his faults, and his ego prevented him from accepting Gus and taking this team to the top in 2006 and 2007, but he did a pretty good job here averaging 7.5 wins a year, including three 9 win seasons and a 10 win season in his ten years here.

He was a bad tipper too, none of the waitresses at hog city had anything good to say about him.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #153 on: October 11, 2017, 06:33:59 pm »

Who is John Brummett>

https://twitter.com/johnbrummett/status/917947097109975041

He will probably be awarded the nobel prize for medicine for inventing a cure for insomnia. Try reading his column. You will fall asleep before the 3rd paragraph.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #154 on: October 11, 2017, 06:43:52 pm »

Rumor was they were also doing funny things with money and Nutt was involved as well which allowed him to get the two year pass, a deal Lindsey was to have brokered.


Troof..........
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #155 on: October 11, 2017, 06:53:23 pm »

Iím good with change. I just hope it isnít the return of the GOBN. If Long has done anything right itís strangling those folks power away from them and ensuring they canít get it back.
How about Ken Hatfield and break the FLEX BONE err out of the mothballs in the closet ?  Anyone seen James Rouse lately ?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #156 on: October 11, 2017, 07:25:18 pm »

;)


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Nice to see the speculation season has been officially started now.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #157 on: October 11, 2017, 07:34:34 pm »

If long goes this year, Bret probably stays. You can't fire and hire a coach without an AD.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #158 on: October 11, 2017, 07:38:31 pm »

Nutt era worked well? 

You can thank John White and his committee for that hire.
Broyles made a mistake keeping him - but he sure wouldn't have hired him.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #159 on: October 11, 2017, 07:49:43 pm »

So typical as  the DemRag,LR tries to sell some papers now by comments from people that never know jack crap.

you might be wrong about that.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #160 on: October 11, 2017, 08:22:01 pm »

I wonder if certain members or the BOT hold more power than others. I seem to remember David Pryor being 100% against the stadium expansion and Long bullheadedly going through with it. Perhaps when the time comes to evaluate Long's job, Pryor will have sour grapes over that and he will be pushing to have Long fired.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #161 on: October 11, 2017, 08:24:05 pm »

Two maybe three assistants changed and they can say they gave him a chance and they saved $11-15 million...probably not the change the masses are clamoring for but it will be change...these are all guesses so don't think I have inside sources...just thinking like money people here

Smartest post in the thread.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #162 on: October 11, 2017, 08:30:21 pm »

Two maybe three assistants changed and they can say they gave him a chance and they saved $11-15 million...probably not the change the masses are clamoring for but it will be change...these are all guesses so don't think I have inside sources...just thinking like money people here
That is the beauty of a vague post about change. No matter what happens... ..you look like you knew something.

I don't have any inside sources either but if I did they would be saying the same thing.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #163 on: October 11, 2017, 08:31:36 pm »

I may be in the minority, but as time passes, my opinion of Nutt has gotten more favorable.

He had his faults, and his ego prevented him from accepting Gus and taking this team to the top in 2006 and 2007, but he did a pretty good job here averaging 7.5 wins a year, including three 9 win seasons and a 10 win season in his ten years here.

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #164 on: October 11, 2017, 08:43:31 pm »

I seem to remember David Pryor being 100% against the stadium expansion and Long bullheadedly going through with it.
Good.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #165 on: October 11, 2017, 08:52:41 pm »

Good Ole Boy Network.....  you a chick?

worse, a chief's fan
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #166 on: October 11, 2017, 08:54:45 pm »

Season's end

Porkatarian out...

Anderson will be fired before season's end.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #167 on: October 11, 2017, 08:56:17 pm »

worse, a chief's fan

Whatever dude. It's pretty similar to being a Razorback. Lots of buildup to the disappointment that will ultimately ensue.

But hey, we're 5-0!!!
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #168 on: October 11, 2017, 09:08:35 pm »

Whatever dude. It's pretty similar to being a Razorback. Lots of buildup to the disappointment that will ultimately ensue.

But hey, we're 5-0!!!

I know and quite impressive so far.  MIght be the year the chiefs don't chock
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #169 on: October 11, 2017, 09:11:10 pm »

Two maybe three assistants changed and they can say they gave him a chance and they saved $11-15 million...probably not the change the masses are clamoring for but it will be change...these are all guesses so don't think I have inside sources...just thinking like money people here

So basically the same old-same old with a partially new cast of characters.  Wow.  Exciting. 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #170 on: October 11, 2017, 09:40:08 pm »

Let's think through the scenario of Long leaving but Bielema being allowed to change two or three assistants and stay.

Given the amount of staff turnover Bret has experienced at UA, the "quality" of some of his current staff, and his well-publicized won-loss record in year 5, what would make anyone believe he suddenly will be able to upgrade his staff this winter? What quality assistants will be up for taking a new job and relocating their families on a bet that Bielema will still be here for the 2019 season?

Long's departure would make it more likely in my mind that Bielema would follow him shortly thereafter, because Long will take with him what little job security Bret still has.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #171 on: October 11, 2017, 10:00:34 pm »

Jeff Long isnít going anywhere, stop being ignorant.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #172 on: October 11, 2017, 10:06:17 pm »

Yes indeed, "change is in the air"; and the smell is getting progressively worse with each passing week.


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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #173 on: October 11, 2017, 10:42:51 pm »

Isn't it ironic that if the GOBN is back in play that it will have been Jeff Long that created the environment to make it happen?  Talk about Irony.

p.s.  I sure hope this doesn't mean we will continue to play in a dump in Little Rock each year with 30-40,000 people in attendance, 100,000 drunks on the golf course and a beautifully redesigned stadium sitting empty in Fayetteville.
No No No   When the GOBN retakes control. LSU and Ole Miss will play in WMS on alternate years. Standing room only. Jumbotrons on the golf course.
Seriously can you honestly say the GOBN was worse than Long?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #174 on: October 11, 2017, 10:42:57 pm »

Yes indeed, "change is in the air"; and the smell is getting progressively worse with each passing week.


                                                               >:(
I see what you did, there. Slick,if you realize you are sort of parroting Phil Collins' song to make a point.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #175 on: October 11, 2017, 10:44:19 pm »

I see what you did, there. Slick,if you realize you are sort of parroting Phil Collins' song to make a point.


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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #176 on: October 11, 2017, 11:02:24 pm »

Change is in the air is right.  Number of wins and losses may determine how much change. Heard again today that the Yankee AD was told to look for a job elsewhere.  As for coach, got from now until end of season to see what he can do.  How the season ends, win totals.  Which, there are some winnable games left, but don't think there's enough. Heard that the man himself is thinking it's not a good fit anymore and would he be open to renegotiation of the huge buyout.  But who knows, things change.  I know if Bert wins enough games to be kept, the way the seasons sets up next year is very favorable , along with all the returning starters and injured, more maturity, more experience in system, stronger,faster, better,one would hope anyways.  So, it'd be another 2yrs before he might be let go If he isn't fired or steps down himself at years end.

Like I said in another post, I don't doubt that if given enough time, Bielema could get the job done.  Where as it seemed Petrino did it quicker, it was because he built up the offense 1st, turned it into a scoring machine, then he was just trying to get the Dfense built before going into the ditch.  Bielema is trying to do the offense and defense at the same time. Bring them up equally together, which is a much slower process, with the bad luck of losing Pittman and not replacing him with the same caliber of coach, which was a HUGE setback, so big in fact that it could cost him his job!  But, anyways, Bielema's process is just slower, but once he gets it all up to par, it'd be more sustainable.  I heard Mike Irwin say pretty much the same thing.  Which of course, another setback was that we then switch defenses, so its like, instead of being the same defense, and 1 or 2 guys having to learn new starting position and coverage schemes, EVERYONE is learning the new defense.   Then of course our lockdown CB gets hurt, which is a HUGE blow because now we replace him with a freshman, and then have to help with a safety, so now we arent able to bring the blitz like we wanted.  So, that allows a QB to be able to have as much time as he wants to pick us apart!  It was just a huge blow when Pulley went down.  Bama has so much success with their 3-4 because they have lockdown corners and can go 1on 1 and have ability to blitz blitz blitz.  We cant.   Anyways.. to me, Bielema should have chose either offense or defense.  Built that side up then worked on the other side.  That's how Petrino did it.  Bielema could have did the very same thing and it would have worked!  Hell, if he would have just hired a top OL coach when Pittman left, we'd probably have been ok.  I heard today there is some behind the scenes stuff going on which, ill just say makes me dislike Anderson even more! I wish he was fired already!  Anyways, that's all I got.  End of season will definitely be interesting.  Sadly , I think Bama will blow our doors off. Even tho Saban doesn't really ever try to run it up on us, but Gus will.  Gus will try to beat us as bad as he possibly can in our house!  That's gonna suck.    I'll be glad when this football season is over.  Haven't felt this way about football since the Danny Ford years. 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #177 on: October 11, 2017, 11:08:33 pm »

Decisions still have to pass the BOT's...how come they are blameless by so many folks?
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #178 on: October 11, 2017, 11:08:58 pm »

If long goes this year, Bret probably stays. You can't fire and hire a coach without an AD.

I will take it.  Long MUST go.  I would suffer through one more 5}{1++• season to have him out of the UA system forever.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #179 on: October 11, 2017, 11:09:41 pm »

Two maybe three assistants changed and they can say they gave him a chance and they saved $11-15 million...probably not the change the masses are clamoring for but it will be change...these are all guesses so don't think I have inside sources...just thinking like money people here

And kiss off the the best recruiting opportunity we have had in a decade (2019).
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #180 on: October 11, 2017, 11:11:17 pm »

Two maybe three assistants changed and they can say they gave him a chance and they saved $11-15 million...probably not the change the masses are clamoring for but it will be change...these are all guesses so don't think I have inside sources...just thinking like money people here

But for Bielema that's standard operating procedure.
Assistants have been changed every year he's been here.
Nothing new about that.
At this point, I'd be shocked if there wasn't assistant turnover every year.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #181 on: October 11, 2017, 11:11:18 pm »

Change is in the air is right.  Number of wins and losses may determine how much cgange. Heard again today that the Yankee AD was told to look for job elsewhere.  As for coach, got from now until end of season to see what can do.  How the season ends, win totals.  Which, there are some winnable games left, but don't think there's enough. Heard that the man himself is thinking it's not a good fit anymore and would be open to renegotiation of the buyout.  But who knows, things change.  I know if Bert wins enough games to be kept, the way the seasons sets up next year is very favorable , along with all the returning starters and injured, more maturity, more experience in system, stronger,faster, better one would hope anyways.  So, it'd be another 2yrs before he might be let go again. 

Like I said in another post, I don't doubt that if given enough time, Bielema could get the job done.  Where as it seemed Petrino did it quicker, because he built up the offense 1st, turned it into a scoring machine, then was just trying to get the Dfense built before going into the ditch.  Bielema is trying to do the offense and defense at the same time. Bring them up equally together, which is a much slower process, with the bad luck of losing Pittman and not replacing him with the same caliber of coach, that was a HUGE setback, so big in fact that it could cost him his job!  But, anyways, Bielema's process is just slower, but once he got it all up to par, it'd be more sustainable.  I heard Mike Irwin say the same thing before.  Which of course we then switch defenses, so its like, instead of beung the same defense, and 1 or 2 guys learning new position and coverage schemes, EVERYONE is learning the new defense.   Then of course our lockdown CB gets hurt, which is a HUGE blow because now we replace him with a freshman, and then have to help with a safety, so now we arent able to bring the blitz like we wanted.  So, that allows a QB to be able to have as much time as he wants to pick us apart!  It was just a huge blow when Pulley went down.  Bama has so muvh success with their 3-4 because they have lockdown corners and can go 1on 1 and have ability to blitz blitz blitz.  We cant.   Anyways.. to me, Bielema should have chose either offense or defense.  Built that side up then worked on the other side.  That's how Petrino did it.  Bielema could have did the very same thing and it would have worked!  Hell, if he would have just hired a top OL coach, it would have worked.  I heard today there is behind the scenes stuff going on and it makes me dislike Anderson even more! I wish he was fired already!  Anyways, that's all I got.  End of season will definitely be interesting.  Sadly , I think Bama will blow our doors off. Even tho Saban doesn't really ever try to run it up on us, but Gus will.  Gus will try to beat us as bad as he possibly can in our house!  That's gonna suck.    I'll be glad when this football season is over.  Haven't felt this way about football since the Danny Ford years. 

You have to be a really good or great football coach to win today and BB is not either.  So saying his process takes longer maybe true but the process doesn't give a program winning results.

I don't care if he was on the hill for 10 years, BB would never win 10 games.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #182 on: October 11, 2017, 11:14:14 pm »

I have also been told, from a source that claims to know, that there have been "exit" plan in negotiation this week!

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #183 on: October 11, 2017, 11:30:30 pm »

You have to be a really good or great football coach to win today and BB is not either.  So saying his process takes longer maybe true but the process doesn't give a program winning results.

I don't care if he was on the hill for 10 years, BB would never win 10 games.
Sorry, I may have switched to being a "Bertman" , but I disagree with you. If Bielema had just made a better hire than Anderson, we probably win 10games last year. Our OLine is probably much better this year, and we are honestly probably undefeated at this point.  The absolute most important position coach in this offense and team, and we hire a nobody with 7games exp. Coaching the bills!  Anderson was a fail! Huge fail! His supposed NFL teaching techniques aren't working. And I won't get into what else I heard about him but he needs to be fired for not playing the best players. I'll just say that.  Bielema should have went down the list of top 50 "best coach/recruiters " and any of those guys would have been better than what we got here now!   This team wins or loses in the trenches with their OLine.  People would still be on board because we'd of won 10games last year at least , and like I said , we'd probably be undefeated this season if we had a decent to good OLine.  But we dont, and we are where we are. 
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #184 on: October 12, 2017, 07:04:45 am »

That is the beauty of a vague post about change. No matter what happens... ..you look like you knew something.

I don't have any inside sources either but if I did they would be saying the same thing.


OK smart@ss, I'm saying that Beilema won't be our coach next season.  Is that vague enough for you?


Porkatarian out...
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #185 on: October 12, 2017, 07:06:53 am »

Yes indeed, "change is in the air"; and the smell is getting progressively worse with each passing week.


                                                               >:(

There's light at the end of the tunnel.  Sadly, I'm more looking forward to our upcoming coaching search than I am the rest of the season. 


Porkatarian out...
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #186 on: October 12, 2017, 07:07:59 am »


OK smart@ss, I'm saying that Beilema won't be our coach next season.  Is that vague enough for you?


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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #187 on: October 12, 2017, 07:10:44 am »

Oh no, let the Gruden tthreads begin!
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #188 on: October 12, 2017, 07:12:15 am »

Oh no, let the Gruden tthreads begin!

Hopefully the Grudenites learned their lesson 5 years ago. 


Porkatarian out...

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #189 on: October 12, 2017, 07:13:08 am »

Oh no, let the Gruden tthreads begin!

wheres Jim Grobe.........
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« Reply #191 on: October 12, 2017, 07:23:42 am »

News today doesn't seem good for Bret.
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« Reply #192 on: October 12, 2017, 07:24:18 am »

Hopefully the Grudenites learned their lesson 5 years ago. 


Porkatarian out...





Are you willing to let us know of any potentials?

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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #193 on: October 12, 2017, 07:27:48 am »

The wonderful thing about all of this is that the national media actually supports the Razorback fans it seems . Year five with a shirt show on the field can only mean the coach and staff failed.

We are not crazy like after the HDN antics - we are simply great fans wanting a competitive product
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #194 on: October 12, 2017, 07:31:32 am »

The wonderful thing about all of this is that the national media actually supports the Razorback fans it seems . Year five with a shirt show on the field can only mean the coach and staff failed.

We are not crazy like after the HDN antics - we are simply great fans wanting a competitive product

good point
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #195 on: October 12, 2017, 07:34:00 am »

Today?  This week?  Next week?  At season's end?

Yes. The leaves are changing colors.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #196 on: October 12, 2017, 07:36:08 am »


OK smart@ss, I'm saying that Beilema won't be our coach next season.  Is that vague enough for you?


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Any idea who they've got their eye on? Just a simple yes or no, no names.
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #197 on: October 12, 2017, 07:37:26 am »

Let's think through the scenario of Long leaving but Bielema being allowed to change two or three assistants and stay.

Given the amount of staff turnover Bret has experienced at UA, the "quality" of some of his current staff, and his well-publicized won-loss record in year 5, what would make anyone believe he suddenly will be able to upgrade his staff this winter? What quality assistants will be up for taking a new job and relocating their families on a bet that Bielema will still be here for the 2019 season?

Long's departure would make it more likely in my mind that Bielema would follow him shortly thereafter, because Long will take with him what little job security Bret still has.
Exactly...you know what they call doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...
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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #198 on: October 12, 2017, 07:57:07 am »



Are you willing to let us know of any potentials?

Thanks as always

Still way too early for that.  If there has been any back channel communication with perspective head coaches, I am not aware. 

There is a small group on the BOT that absolutely wants Jeff Long to have no part of our next coaching hire.  Can't say I blame them.


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Re: Change is in the air...
« Reply #199 on: October 12, 2017, 08:10:23 am »

Still way too early for that.  If there has been any back channel communication with perspective head coaches, I am not aware. 

There is a small group on the BOT that absolutely wants Jeff Long to have no part of our next coaching hire.  Can't say I blame them.


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This is true
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