How on earth does this happen?

[mathhog]

AP Top 25                  ESPN/USA Today Poll  
1. North Carolina (29) 0-0      1. North Carolina (14) 0-0 747
2. UCLA (24) 1-0 1,710     2. UCLA (10) 1-0 744
3. Memphis (18) 2-0 1,686     3. Memphis (6) 2-0 715
4. Kansas 2-0 1,566     4. Kansas (1) 2-0 680
5. Georgetown (1) 1-0      5. Georgetown 1-0 636
6. Louisville 0-0 1,394     6. Louisville 0-0 610
7. Tennessee 1-0 1,386     7. Tennessee 1-0 606
8. Indiana 0-0 1,172     8. Indiana 0-0 504
9. Washington State     9. Washington State 1-0 502
10. Marquette 1-0 1,026    10. Duke 1-0 428
11. Oregon 2-0 1,003    11. Marquette 1-0 404
12. Michigan State 0-0 976    12. Michigan State 0-0 400
13. Duke 1-0 917                 13. Oregon 2-0 398
14. Gonzaga 1-0 779    14. Gonzaga 1-0 320
15. Texas A&M 1-0 693    15. Texas A&M 1-0 289
16. Texas 0-0 684                 16. Texas 0-0 269
17. Arizona 0-0 581    17. Arizona 0-0 266
18. Arkansas 1-0 558    18. Arkansas 1-0 205
19. Pittsburgh 3-0 413    19. Pittsburgh 3-0 201
20. Stanford 3-0 389    20. Stanford 3-0 191


Look at the top 20.... how is it that out of 20 teams, in BOTH polls, 17 of the 20 are EXACTLY the same, in EXACTLY the same position?  some teams haven't played anyone, and yet both AP and coaches polls nailed exactly the same setup?

do you walk around daily thinking "Hm, washington state is definitely the 9th best team in the country"   

this strikes me as bizzare... usually these guys differ by a few places" 8th in the coaches is 11th in ap, etc....  even looking at last week's preseason polls, the results are eerily similar... how does this happen?

crazy!

[USCoastGuard]

i agree...i hate preseason polls! they should wait until atleast after the first week, maybe a little bit longer. i mean look at kentucky, michigan st, ohio st, list keeps going.

[mathhog]

i agree...i hate preseason polls! they should wait until atleast after the first week, maybe a little bit longer. i mean look at kentucky, michigan st, ohio st, list keeps going.

and can we all agree that no way in heck duke is in the top 12?  i know they have talent, but i would rank them in the 20s at best.

[40MINSOFHELL]

i agree...i hate preseason polls! they should wait until atleast after the first week, maybe a little bit longer. i mean look at kentucky, michigan st, ohio st, list keeps going.

and can we all agree that no way in heck duke is in the top 12?  i know they have talent, but i would rank them in the 20s at best.

btw Duke has to play Davidson...can u say UPSET in the making hahaha