can you name one single in-state player....

[hamsam]

that we lost as a recruit that turned out to be a GREAT player somewhere else? not just a decent or even good player but great.
don't say cedric houston or bret smith. they weren't even close to great.
I can't think of a single one! help.....

[razorbacker80]

Keith Jackson Sr

[rcowen]

Deangelo williams.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=4784&type=stats

[Duke of Buckingham]

Don Hutson

http://www.packers.com/team/players/hutson_don/

[10thPlanet]

Mark Hutson
There have been more. The fact is football is a team sport and not all positions are So-Called Skill positions/high profile that only the casual fan will notice. I have no doubt the Dmac will be the best football player in the Country next year, but will we win the SEC? It's a team sport. We have lost lots of great players over the last few years.

[10thPlanet]

Fort Smith's Mark Hutson - a two-time All-American at OU in the 1980s.

Great Minds think a like! 30sec. behind you.

[ishankem]

in BBall, Keith Lee and Michael Gage  (both NBA players; although bad knees cut Lee's career short, but he was a great college player at Memphis state)

[ishankem]

sorry, Michael Cage (not Gage),  my bad

[Torqued pork]

Cortez Kennedy

[hawgbawb]

Wasn't Scotty Pippen from Arkansas?

[Richard_white]

Wasn't Scotty Pippen from Arkansas?

Wasn't Scotty Pippen from Arkansas?

Hamburg Arkansas

[ishankem]

what about the guy from texarkana, I can't remember his name, that played corner for the chiefs for many years. I think ark wanted him but he went to Nebraska

[brooks74]

Rod Smith was from Texarkana and played at Missouri Southern. 

[rricha]

Phillip Doaks NLR Ole Main OSU
Leslie O'Neal LR Hall OSU
John Simmons LR Parkview SMU
Emanuell Tolbert LR Central SMU
William Roaf
Williams out of Fordyce OSU

[Darren DeLoach]

 Don Hutson, Pine Bluff
Willie Davis, Texarkana
Cliff Harris, Des Arc
Keith Jackson, Little Rock
Ken Kavanaugh, Little Rock
Monte Coleman, Pine Bluff
William Roaf, Pine Bluff
Deangelo Williams, Wynne

[krack1925]

Deangelo williams

there you have it right there......


NO!!!

[BallHog1]

Wasn't Scotty Pippen from Arkansas?

Wasn't Scotty Pippen from Arkansas?

Hamburg Arkansas

Pippen was a freak accident, he went to as the team manager the first year and grew some unbelievable amount the first year....like eight inches or something. Anyway, nobody could have seen him ending up the way he did.

[Darren DeLoach]

Cortez Kennedy

Cortez Kennedy,rivercrest
duh!! how could i forget him. seems like we lost another football player to miami. and if you want to start a "ones that got away in basketball" thread ---it will be flooded with names.

[Pig_Lebowski]

Keith Traylor
Rod Smith
Mark Bradley

[hamsam]

from what I see, there is only D. Williams so far that was a "loss" during the nutt era. he played at Memphis so I am not sure that he would qualify as great, but I'll give him to ya. (cause he was REALLY, really good IMO. NFL will tell the total tale)
I want Nutt gone just as bad as the next guy (well, maybe not that bad, but bad enough) but I would have to say he has done a good job evaluating in-state talent so far!

[Richard_white]

Recruiting in state top recruits is overrated. 

[razorbackmkh]

Greg Wesley, England, AR, played for UAPB. Only had three really good years at the pro-level, but with his speed and hands would have been an amazing CB for Arkansas at the college level.

[arkjay19]

uh . . . uh . . . . . uh, Slick Shelley?

[Theolesnort]

 You oldtimers forgot Bear Bryant!

[hammy davis jr]

what about the guy from texarkana, I can't remember his name, that played corner for the chiefs for many years. I think ark wanted him but he went to Nebraska.
uote]
Eric Warfield

[Gushugger]

wasn't Willie Roalf from Arkansas?

By the way, what GREAT players have we kept?  Not too many, since we're not just talking about good ones.
Matt Jones
Cobb - bust
Hill - bust

[silvertip]

from what I see, there is only D. Williams so far that was a "loss" during the nutt era. he played at Memphis so I am not sure that he would qualify as great, but I'll give him to ya. (cause he was REALLY, really good IMO. NFL will tell the total tale)
I want Nutt gone just as bad as the next guy (well, maybe not that bad, but bad enough) but I would have to say he has done a good job evaluating in-state talent so far!

Once Nutt could no longer blame Matt Jones for HDN's pitiful passing game---in-state players became leary of playing for the Nuttjob.

Fact is, MM, DW, and B.Cleveland were leaving until Nutt hired Gus to save his butt. And the top lineman from S'dale left & stayed gone. That's 4 top players from the '06 class right there. They all have All-Conference potential, and a couple or 3 have NFL potential.

Now, from the '07 class, you have perhaps the top 3 players running away from Nutt. Green, Burns, Ziemba all have All-Conference potential.

That 7 in the last 2 years that TIME will tell what we've lost.

[Pig_Lebowski]

hamsam,

Bret Smith, Rashawn Fellows, James Turner, Slick Shelley, DeAngelo Williams, Bartley Webb (who no one ever mentions) Greg Jones, Damian Williams, Mitch Mustain, Kodi Burns, Lee Ziemba, Broderick Green, Stephan Loucks, What more do you want?

I played with Danny Nutt at UCA, he is a good friend of mine, HOWEVER, He, and his brother need to be escorted off the property!

He and I will discuss my position later.

[SquirrelMasterFunk]

Deangelo williams.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=4784&type=stats

That was the name that came to my mind.
That kid is a star in the making for the Panthers.

[judgeroyswine]

Keith Traylor
Rod Smith
Mark Bradley

Danny Bradley wasn't bad either.

[Purple Tiger]

How many of the guys ya'll mentioned were actually recruited by Arkansas?

[Dugann]

OGEN! you know the all everything lineman? Just one expample.

[Tusks]

Besides HDN only wants players that want to beg to play for the Hogs.

[Purple Tiger]

Karl Allis, OL, 6-5, 315 from Little Rock who started for Colorado.
Michael Brisiel, OL, 6-5, 305 from Fayetteville who started for Colorado State.

Neither were all-Americans, but both could have helped add depth to the OL.

Were these guys better than the players ya'll signed?

[Pig_Lebowski]

Arkansas Lineman = walkons besides the guy that drank water from the toilet.

[bigyellowdog]

Don Kessinger born in Forrest City, played for Ole Miss and later the Cubs and Cards.

[Brand X Hog Fan]

wasn't Willie Roalf from Arkansas?

By the way, what GREAT players have we kept?  Not too many, since we're not just talking about good ones.
Matt Jones
Cobb - bust
Hill - bust

Madre Hill would have been great had it not been for his knees. That is a lot to come back from. The fact that he made it to the pros is remarkable!

[socalhogcaller]

Do they really need to be GREAT to be considered a loss...after all we're only as good as 8th or 9th in the conference.  If they play in a major conference, they certainly would have been superstars here.

[Immensehog]

Willie Roaf developed in college.

Scottie Pippen was a manager his freshman year.

Neither was highly recruited.

[Pig_Lebowski]

Where are you Hamslam?  Where are you protectors of the Razorback Lineman?   

[Pig_Lebowski]

Where are you Jerry?  Oh, I forgot, you are a walk-on also.  Where are the highly recruited Linemen?  Besides the guy that drinks water from a toilet.

[IronHog]

Dante Wesley from Watson Chapel was on the team when Nutt became coach.  He transferred to UAPB and has had a nice NFL career as a D-back and special teams player.

[JackJohnson]

from what I see, there is only D. Williams so far that was a "loss" during the nutt era. he played at Memphis so I am not sure that he would qualify as great, but I'll give him to ya. (cause he was REALLY, really good IMO. NFL will tell the total tale)
I want Nutt gone just as bad as the next guy (well, maybe not that bad, but bad enough) but I would have to say he has done a good job evaluating in-state talent so far!

Yea, Ced Houston and Kevin Williams suck.  Neither will play a game in the NFL, much less start, or gasp, be a top 10 pick, pro bowler, or be considered one of the top DT's in the game.

[LZH]

that we lost as a recruit that turned out to be a GREAT player somewhere else? not just a decent or even good player but great.
don't say cedric houston or bret smith. they weren't even close to great.
I can't think of a single one! help.....

Why can't we mention Smith or Houston?  Didn't both of them get NFL attention?...(I think Houston is still getting paid to play).

Hold it in longer before exhaling, you may think of more s*** to say.

[hamsam]

that we lost as a recruit that turned out to be a GREAT player somewhere else? not just a decent or even good player but great.
don't say cedric houston or bret smith. they weren't even close to great.
I can't think of a single one! help.....

Why can't we mention Smith or Houston?  Didn't both of them get NFL attention?...(I think Houston is still getting paid to play).

Hold it in longer before exhaling, you may think of more s*** to say.

maybe because neither player even made 1st team all-conference! smith was/is a joke! houston was good but he ain't tearing up the NFL. they would have done no more for us than monk or cobbs or talley.
another reason not to mention them is cause this is my thread and I asked for GREAT player. NONE of which you, or anyone else for that matter, can name that Nutt has lost. the only legitimate  argument so far is D'angelo and Kevin Williams

[hamsam]

from what I see, there is only D. Williams so far that was a "loss" during the nutt era. he played at Memphis so I am not sure that he would qualify as great, but I'll give him to ya. (cause he was REALLY, really good IMO. NFL will tell the total tale)
I want Nutt gone just as bad as the next guy (well, maybe not that bad, but bad enough) but I would have to say he has done a good job evaluating in-state talent so far!

Once Nutt could no longer blame Matt Jones for HDN's pitiful passing game---in-state players became leary of playing for the Nuttjob.

Fact is, MM, DW, and B.Cleveland were leaving until Nutt hired Gus to save his butt. And the top lineman from S'dale left & stayed gone. That's 4 top players from the '06 class right there. They all have All-Conference potential, and a couple or 3 have NFL potential.

Now, from the '07 class, you have perhaps the top 3 players running away from Nutt. Green, Burns, Ziemba all have All-Conference potential.

That 7 in the last 2 years that TIME will tell what we've lost.

totally off subject response but typical! not a single player you mention has played more than 1 season in college (some are not even ENROLLED in college yet) but you already know they are NFL material!? which team do you scout for?

[IronHog]

that we lost as a recruit that turned out to be a GREAT player somewhere else? not just a decent or even good player but great.
don't say cedric houston or bret smith. they weren't even close to great.
I can't think of a single one! help.....

Why can't we mention Smith or Houston?  Didn't both of them get NFL attention?...(I think Houston is still getting paid to play).

Hold it in longer before exhaling, you may think of more s*** to say.

maybe because neither player even made 1st team all-conference! smith was/is a joke! houston was good but he ain't tearing up the NFL. they would have done no more for us than monk or cobbs or talley.
another reason not to mention them is cause this is my thread and I asked for GREAT player. NONE of which you, or anyone else for that matter, can name that Nutt has lost. the only legitimate  argument so far is D'angelo and Kevin Williams

Both would have been multi year starters for Arkansas.  I would rather have a team of good players with adequate depth than two or three "great" players and the rest below average.  Your mindset is much of what is wrong with Arkansas football.

[351hog]

wasn't Willie Roalf from Arkansas?

By the way, what GREAT players have we kept?  Not too many, since we're not just talking about good ones.
Matt Jones
Cobb - bust
Hill - bust

Matt Jones
Shawn Andrews
McFadden
Hillis
Monk


Hill and Cobbs were recruited by every school in the nation...both are in the Hog record book.  Hill and Cobbs have 2 of the highest rushing yardage seasons....how are they busts?  b/c they got hurt?

[hamsam]

hamsam,

Bret Smith, Rashawn Fellows, James Turner, Slick Shelley, DeAngelo Williams, Bartley Webb (who no one ever mentions) Greg Jones, Damian Williams, Mitch Mustain, Kodi Burns, Lee Ziemba, Broderick Green, Stephan Loucks, What more do you want?

I played with Danny Nutt at UCA, he is a good friend of mine, HOWEVER, He, and his brother need to be escorted off the property!

He and I will discuss my position later.

D'angelo. Williams = i'll give you that one
           bret smith = nope!... roshaun fellows=did he even play after his sophomore year? 
james turner,greg jones, stephen loucks?? who in the sam hill are they and where did they play?
slick shelley, bart webb, lee ziemba, kodi burns, broderick green...have yet to play a single down in college so that is just rediculous...
M. Mustain and Damien Williams played one season...hard qualifies them as great!
One place we do agree is that the Nutts should go!!! just not because of in state recruits like so many are saying!

[351hog]

Brett Helms to LSU...he is probably one of the better ones in recent memory that got away.  He is thier starting center.