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Title: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Tweeter on October 10, 2017, 04:54:09 pm
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely heís done at season end. Someone please calm my fears
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: davehog on October 10, 2017, 05:03:07 pm
My opinion is that it's less than 50% that he's fired.  That is due to the buyout and that alone.

But, I think there will be some sacrificial offerings thrown out to appease the masses.  Get rid of a couple of coaches and make them the scapegoat. 

I really don't understand why a certain coach has not already been tossed to the wolves.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: pigasaurus on October 10, 2017, 05:03:47 pm
He hasn't fired any asst coaches, he hasn't benched his starting QB and they owe him $15,000,000 dollars. I just don't see the ptb at a tipping point yet. Couple more brutal losses plus losing to couple bad teams may change things.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 10, 2017, 05:23:16 pm
10% Chance he is the coach of Arkansas Razorbacks on 1/2/18.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Mike Irwin on October 10, 2017, 05:28:48 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Cambridge Hog on October 10, 2017, 05:37:08 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

I think we all know what is going to happen over the next couple of weeks. Donít see how that will change the trajectory of this flaming wreck.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Skandar Jackson on October 10, 2017, 05:38:23 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

Yep. 

I'd say there a 76% chance he will be back next year.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 10, 2017, 05:40:48 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Al Boarland on October 10, 2017, 05:43:39 pm
I truly believe this hire has put the program back more than a decade. This was the time to move the program up in the pecking order. There was an opportunity to beat teams that were down. Now recruiting will tank from an already uncompetitive level and the roster will be weak for years to come.

I donít know what coach, that would realistically take over the program, could turn that around. Sure, we could improve the coaching. That wouldnít take much.  However, the talent desperatity between the haves and have nots has never been greater. Thatís why you are seeing such lopsided scores in the SEC.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Poker_hog on October 10, 2017, 05:51:09 pm
I can't imagine he stays with a losing record.  Also can't imagine that we'd fire a coach with a winning record especially if he wins 4 out of the last 5.  5 out of the last 6 counting a toilet bowl.

I could see a scenario where we fix the o line over the next couple of weeks and Kelly gives us a spark and we beat ole miss, cc, mizzou and either MSU or LSU.  If that happen he'll be back.  Long will spin it as he's finally turned the corner, gpa, blah, blah, blah

75% chance he's fired.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Quickdraw on October 10, 2017, 05:56:10 pm
If he is not fired after the season there won't be much of a fan base left. Nothing against the players they can't help the situation. But this is one of the few things fans can do to put pressure on the powers that be to think about the decisions they are going to have to make.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 10, 2017, 06:03:54 pm
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely heís done at season end. Someone please calm my fears
'friad I won't be the one to calm your angst. As we know few things are certain in life. Unfortunately this is most definitely one of those occasions.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: kodiakisland on October 10, 2017, 06:16:47 pm
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely he’s done at season end. Someone please calm my fears

It's one thing to have a lame duck coach finish out the year, but can you imagine if they keep him so they can fire him after next year?  Recruiting is already a problem.  The team seems to have quit on him already.  What condition will the program be in a year from now if they wait.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 10, 2017, 06:19:29 pm
I think we all know what is going to happen over the next couple of weeks. Donít see how that will change the trajectory of this flaming wreck.

It's not the next couple of weeks that matters. They were never going to be favored to beat Bama or old barn anyway. It is the rest of the season after that.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: cj_sez on October 10, 2017, 06:30:37 pm
He should be fired. The program is in shambles. It will take a great coach to recruit and rebuild and it will take time, but Bielema has proven he cannot do the job. The longer they wait to fire and replace him, the more damage he can do. Long was a fool.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: phadedhawg on October 10, 2017, 06:32:26 pm
We will finish 3-9 and he will be fired.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: DemiHOG on October 10, 2017, 06:34:04 pm
He'll be back, no doubt. Long isn't finished destroying razorback football
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 10, 2017, 06:36:25 pm
If he is not fired after the season there won't be much of a fan base left. Nothing against the players they can't help the situation. But this is one of the few things fans can do to put pressure on the powers that be to think about the decisions they are going to have to make.
Fans will still be going to games... maybe you wont, but other fans will.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: ResIpsaLoquitur on October 10, 2017, 06:40:53 pm
I think there's virtually no chance he's fired before the end of the year - whether or not he's fired after the first of the year depends on whether or not there are any positive things that happen between now and then - JL will be looking for anything that he can put a positive spin on between now and the end of the season to justify keeping BB - beating someone we shouldn't beat will probably qualify (which includes just about anyone) - JL doesn't want to fire BB - he's looking for an excuse not to
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: tusked on October 10, 2017, 06:44:41 pm
You won't be able to come back from 2-5, he's gone.

I'm really curious to see what Gus does.  I mean he can be the dagger in the coffin.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: grayhawg on October 10, 2017, 06:55:14 pm
Fans will still be going to games... maybe you wont, but other fans will.
Worked in basketball with Jon Pelphry, in fact it may have worked too well. Now I'm not condoning a boycott but some folks are so maybe JL needs to pay attention, since his seat is not all that cool.

   Man it would be a shame for that fine stadium with the luxury boxes to be like Bud Walton Arena.
 
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 10, 2017, 07:01:09 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

The possibility that talks may not have begun to renegotiate his buyout, is all the proof that one needs to fire Long before Bielema is fired.

FTR, I think there's 0% probability he's the coach here after January 1, 2018.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 10, 2017, 07:01:27 pm
Worked in basketball with Jon Pelphry, in fact it may have worked too well. Now I'm not condoning a boycott but some folks are so maybe JL needs to pay attention, since his seat is not all that cool.

   Man it would be a shame for that fine stadium with the luxury boxes to be like Bud Walton Arena.
 
Basketball is a different animal IMO.  Maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: PossumFan on October 10, 2017, 07:03:09 pm
I've been as big a Bielema supporter as anyone not named Jen until recently, and I can't see him coming back next year barring some miraculous turnaround. The record is just too bad, sad to say.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: grayhawg on October 10, 2017, 07:05:47 pm
Basketball is a different animal IMO.  Maybe I'm wrong.
It is but people will go watch their team get clobbered and finally say"I'm saving my money and staying home"
Happened at Miami.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/120419900
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: HardCore on October 10, 2017, 07:08:29 pm
He'll be back, no doubt. Long isn't finished destroying razorback football

Pitt was at least wise enough to chase his A$$ out of there before he completely destroyed theirs.  And that is also a historically successful football program.  JL must go first!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: 12247 on October 10, 2017, 07:14:44 pm
The absolute best for the program is to move Bret to Assistant AD and fire him in January, thus lowering the buyout from 15 million times his worth to 11 million times his worth.  AND I CAN ALREADY HEAR:  BUT WHAT WILL OTHER COACHES THING ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT WOULD DO THAT.  THEY WOULD THINK THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE A JOB AND bull THE DUMB AD INTO A DEAL BECAUSE SOMEONE ABOVE HIM HAS BALLS.

Start NOW to find his replacement.  Get the Up & Comer onsite and recruiting all that is allowed right now and save the ones currently having or dump them as necessary.  Let Enos coach out the season.  The first thing the University of Arkansas needs to do is show some balls, show football is important, indicate to all the horsecrap and gunpowder days are over and if you produce, you get great compensation, if you pull your pud, you are done.

Being a nice Guy to a Guy who hasn't done anything he came to do just sets us back 2,3 or 4 more years in recruiting.  Our next coach will likely be a young guy looking for a break.  Lets give him a break whereby success and hes one of the top 10 paid coaches in the NCAA or hes looking for a job in 3 years.  NCAA Football is a tough business and requires tough decisions.  This program needs some balls.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: porkrindjimmy on October 10, 2017, 07:21:05 pm
Worked in basketball with Jon Pelphry, in fact it may have worked too well. Now I'm not condoning a boycott but some folks are so maybe JL needs to pay attention, since his seat is not all that cool.

   Man it would be a shame for that fine stadium with the luxury boxes to be like Bud Walton Arena.
 

It will be taken care of. I can assure you. The people in Jeff's corner, the people that depend on Jeff for access, they will, right up until the last moment, keep on with the nothing to see here...this is a process and we are on the right path...right up until the ball drops.

PRJ
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: 12247 on October 10, 2017, 07:21:10 pm
If the uncoached, unprepared players can find a way to win 4 or 5 total, he may get an extension, pay raise, and stupid buyout.  I believe he is still in tight with Jeff and Jeff still carries a lot of say. If he went 4 & 2 I would still want him gone.  He is a blight on the program.

With the players we have and the current crap the SEC has to offer this season, we should have been a shoo in for 8 wins this season and 10 should not have been out of the question.  Here we are, grubbing around trying to find 6 wins. 
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: cosmodrum on October 10, 2017, 07:21:53 pm
He won't get fired and we get a circus next year.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: porkrindjimmy on October 10, 2017, 07:22:35 pm
Pitt was at least wise enough to chase his A$$ out of there before he completely destroyed theirs.  And that is also a historically successful football program.  JL must go first!

If Judy doesn't come around to their way of thinking, that is what is gonna happen. Judy has a chance to prove if he is for Arkansas or if he is for Judy....

PRJ
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 10, 2017, 07:22:49 pm
I've been as big a Bielema supporter as anyone not named Jen until recently, and I can't see him coming back next year barring some miraculous turnaround. The record is just too bad, sad to say.

Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Tweeter on October 10, 2017, 07:26:25 pm
It will be taken care of. I can assure you. The people in Jeff's corner, the people that depend on Jeff for access, they will, right up until the last moment, keep on with the nothing to see here...this is a process and we are on the right path...right up until the ball drops.

PRJ
Iím trusting you!!!!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: The NewEra on October 10, 2017, 07:27:56 pm
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely heís done at season end. Someone please calm my fears

50/50 today in my opinion. Based on the trajectory this year with the early lack of competitive fight in the team I would say 70/30 after the Missouri game.  If he goes 6/6 or better Long will figure out a way to get him another year.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: buldozer on October 10, 2017, 07:29:37 pm
The only way CBB is not fired is if he quits before it occurs. Who knows if it will happen at the end of this season or next... but its a done deal that he will be gone. He has sealed the deal on this last Sat.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: forrest city joe on October 10, 2017, 07:31:16 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.
Which tells you all you need to know about what Long and his Bosses think about the football program winning.they can take it or leave it, pitiful.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: PonderinHog on October 10, 2017, 07:34:59 pm
He won't get fired and we get a circus next year.
Yeah, it's a circus alright.  The aerial act has plummeted to the ground, the running attack is fixing to get trampled by elephants, and the kicking game is going to fall short of or totally miss the safety net.

And the master of ceremonies is fixing to run off with all the money!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: WoePigSooie on October 10, 2017, 07:37:22 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

Mike, do you honestly think Bielema is doing a good job here?   Do you really think he has the TEAM?

Don't you think he is going to ride Austin Allen till the poor kid has a really messed up shoulder?

Do you really believe he is a good coach at this point?
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: forrest city joe on October 10, 2017, 07:38:59 pm
He won't get fired and we get a circus next year.
So we waste another year,knowing it's not going to work?which sirs the program back even more years. very sad.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Redhogs on October 10, 2017, 07:39:30 pm
You won't be able to come back from 2-5, he's gone.

I'm really curious to see what Gus does.  I mean he can be the dagger in the coffin.
He will bury it, just like last year if at all possible...he wants to send a strong message to Jeff Long.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: East TN HAWG on October 10, 2017, 07:39:40 pm
The absolute best for the program is to move Bret to Assistant AD and fire him


Could CBB be reaassigned to a different position and avoid the buyout?   Most folks like him personally.   
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Redhogs on October 10, 2017, 07:41:08 pm
Mike, do you honestly think Bielema is doing a good job here?   Do you really think he has the TEAM?

Don't you think he is going to ride Austin Allen till the poor kid has a really messed up shoulder?

Do you really believe he is a good coach at this point?
I don't think he said one way or the other, just reporting what he is hearing....or not hearing.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Redhogs on October 10, 2017, 07:43:47 pm
Could CBB be reaassigned to a different position and avoid the buyout?   Most folks like him personally.
Don't like him at all after the last press conference...if you listen closely, you won't either. Anyway, you don't move the cancer to another part of the body, you totally cut it out and remove it...see my point.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Hogwild on October 10, 2017, 07:46:11 pm
If he wins two conference games or less, his record in the conference would be 12-28. Has any coach, at any SEC school ever gotten a six year with a 30% conference win%?
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: GlassofSwine on October 10, 2017, 07:53:50 pm
I say 80% chance he survives, if he beats Coastal Carolina, Ole Miss and Missouri. If he loses any of those games than the odds he stays drop significantly. Also, I say 100% chance he stays if he wins those 3 and picks up a win vs either LSU or Miss. State.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: WoePigSooie on October 10, 2017, 07:56:58 pm
I think Saban won't "try" to run up the score, but his second and third teams will not be able to not score.  I am thinking Gus will leave first team in until it is really embarrassing.  Either way, we lose the next two, and then we will see.  Betting the team folds, and costal Carolina and Mizzou, maybe.  4 and 8 best, 3 and 9 very possible.  And, I would still bet we have Bielema and whomever he he decides not to fire on the sidelines next year.  Was supposed to be another rebuilding year, right loses to graduation, talented kids who just aren't uncommon enough, surely we shouldn't expect to win anything, jeez
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: hawgmasta on October 10, 2017, 08:14:00 pm
What's the magic number he needs to win to stay?

4?
5?
6?
7+?
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 10, 2017, 08:21:58 pm
What's the magic number he needs to win to stay?

4?
5?
6?
7+?

the "L" matters

but it's how that L is made that matters, perhaps moreso.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: shown006 on October 10, 2017, 08:25:06 pm
20% chance he's fired...5% he decides he can't do it here and leaves.  Saban wants Bielema to be around as long as possible...so he won't run it up and embarrass Bielema, Saturday.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Karma on October 10, 2017, 08:25:45 pm
70% he's here. I trust Mike more than others on here.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: MemphisBossHog on October 10, 2017, 08:27:14 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

Im wondering if 2 weeks from now after Ark has given up maybe 110 pts over 2 games and scored maybe 20 if those people might start to "mobilize" and start the ball rolling to get things changed.

Personally, I think its just too much money for the Razorback Foundation and its supporters to part with. Not saying they dont have it or have access to it.  However,  to buy out BB, possibly have to buyout the new coach from the school where he coaches presently and then have to come up with a package that entices said coach to move his family to Fayetteville would be a nice chunk of change.  I mean no doubt Jerry Jones,  JB Hunt, the Tysons can come up with the money--no doubt, but WOULD they?  Im just not close enough to the situation to know if they actually would and from what I have read on this board, it doesnt appear that the Waltons (who could find that kind of scratch in their seat cushions in their couches) care who coaches football and dont donate big sums of $$$ for athletics. 
Title: cbb on the hog sidelines next year, or not. put your money up!
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 10, 2017, 08:29:02 pm
is he coaching the hogs as head coach in the 2018 regular season?

how or why doesn't matter. is he is, or is he isn't?

i say "isn't".

what do you say?
Title: Re: cbb on the hog sidelines next year, or not. put your money up!
Post by: PorkSoda on October 10, 2017, 08:31:46 pm
smart money says, never bet on the hogs..
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 10, 2017, 08:32:32 pm
Im wondering if 2 weeks from now after Ark has given up maybe 110 pts over 2 games and scored maybe 20 if those people might start to "mobilize" and start the ball rolling to get things changed.

the bot meets in about 3 weeks.
Title: Re: cbb on the hog sidelines next year, or not. put your money up!
Post by: ballz2thewall on October 10, 2017, 08:33:27 pm
smart money says, never bet on the hogs..

dammmit man; i didn't expect anyone to actually make good sense!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: MemphisBossHog on October 10, 2017, 08:34:33 pm
the bot meets in about 3 weeks.

well, might be an interesting meeting then.  LOL  Probably have a lot to talk about.
Title: Re: cbb on the hog sidelines next year, or not. put your money up!
Post by: onebadrubi on October 10, 2017, 08:34:53 pm
What's the juice?  I gotta know the odds
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 10, 2017, 08:35:27 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

Really smart people don't panic and show their hand too soon.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: PonderinHog on October 10, 2017, 09:01:00 pm
Really smart people don't panic and show their hand too soon.
Do you think bookend 0-8 conference records in years one and five would do it?  I think six wins might save his job, but I think he'll come up short.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on October 10, 2017, 09:22:18 pm
Do you think bookend 0-8 conference records in years one and five would do it?  I think six wins might save his job, but I think he'll come up short.

I'm not sure there are 6 wins out there.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: hogpc on October 10, 2017, 09:31:31 pm
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.
My guess is that something will change...BB will not survive after this season, if he makes it thru the end of the season. I think something will be negotiated and he will be bought out for less than the $15 million.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: The Boar War on October 10, 2017, 09:31:58 pm
Im wondering if 2 weeks from now after Ark has given up maybe 110 pts over 2 games and scored maybe 20 if those people might start to "mobilize" and start the ball rolling to get things changed.

Personally, I think its just too much money for the Razorback Foundation and its supporters to part with. Not saying they dont have it or have access to it.  However,  to buy out BB, possibly have to buyout the new coach from the school where he coaches presently and then have to come up with a package that entices said coach to move his family to Fayetteville would be a nice chunk of change.  I mean no doubt Jerry Jones,  JB Hunt, the Tysons can come up with the money--no doubt, but WOULD they?  Im just not close enough to the situation to know if they actually would and from what I have read on this board, it doesnt appear that the Waltons (who could find that kind of scratch in their seat cushions in their couches) care who coaches football and dont donate big sums of $$$ for athletics. 

Probably depends on who the AD is at that point.  If it's Long probably not.  If the big money folks were able to get their guy in who knows.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: grayhawg on October 10, 2017, 09:33:41 pm
I'm not sure there are 6 wins out there.
It would be tough to get there Bama and Auburn are almost sure losses and if that happens we have to win 4 of the last 5 games
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: kp72204 on October 10, 2017, 09:49:34 pm
I believe it's too much money for us to part with. I believe we can't coach them up. Maybe JJ will give us a good oline recommendation.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: wachhog on October 10, 2017, 09:50:26 pm
My opinion is that it's less than 50% that he's fired.  That is due to the buyout and that alone.

But, I think there will be some sacrificial offerings thrown out to appease the masses.  Get rid of a couple of coaches and make them the scapegoat. 

I really don't understand why a certain coach has not already been tossed to the wolves.
It is obvious to me that Bret can no longer get quality coaches  to work for him;  the last few hires had really, really thin resumes. And it would be even more difficult now, with all the analysts having given up on him, at Arkansas at least. I certainly hope no one buys that stalling tactic.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Farmer Hogget on October 10, 2017, 10:27:31 pm
There is a 100% chance he will NOT be fired. 
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLineô on October 10, 2017, 10:27:45 pm
You won't be able to come back from 2-5, he's gone.

I'm really curious to see what Gus does.  I mean he can be the dagger in the coffin.

 I wonder if Gus is gonna jump on the first boat out of Auburn, and could that job ever be Arkansas?
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: tusked on October 10, 2017, 10:44:30 pm

I just wonder if Gus hanging 60 on the Hogs at RRS will be his final game.  Fans know the Hogs are going to lose the next 2 games but if both by a total of 100 points, the actual experience of it happening may put the whole state over the edge.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: DoctorSusscrofa on October 10, 2017, 10:53:14 pm
I wonder if Gus is gonna jump on the first boat out of Auburn, and could that job ever be Arkansas?

Not a chance. He will never, ever be head coach at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: From Tusk Till Dawn on October 10, 2017, 11:42:30 pm
Do you think bookend 0-8 conference records in years one and five would do it?  I think six wins might save his job, but I think he'll come up short.
I think he has to get to 6 and win the bowl.  If he does that I think they would roll the dice for one more season which allows them to get closer to a manageable buyout number.
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Post by: HogPharmer on October 10, 2017, 11:48:43 pm
I think he has to get to 6 and win the bowl.  If he does that I think they would roll the dice for one more season which allows them to get closer to a manageable buyout number.

Hell if he not only got to a bowl but WON it (no matter how craptastic of a bowl it was), I bet he'd get a friggin raise by JL... Look at how poor we truly were when he got his current contract extension. 2-6 in SEC play and beat a TERRIBLE Texas team in the bowl. TWO AND SIX!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: texas tush hog on October 11, 2017, 02:21:10 am
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

Thanks Mike, well said.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: texas tush hog on October 11, 2017, 02:22:59 am
Not a chance. He will never, ever be head coach at Arkansas.

True, that ship has sailed.
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Post by: smb on October 11, 2017, 03:36:59 am
I truly believe this hire has put the program back more than a decade. This was the time to move the program up in the pecking order. There was an opportunity to beat teams that were down. Now recruiting will tank from an already uncompetitive level and the roster will be weak for years to come.

I donít know what coach, that would realistically take over the program, could turn that around. Sure, we could improve the coaching. That wouldnít take much.  However, the talent desperatity between the haves and have nots has never been greater. Thatís why you are seeing such lopsided scores in the SEC.
This is a good quote.
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 11, 2017, 05:20:30 am
well, might be an interesting meeting then.  LOL  Probably have a lot to talk about.

I'm sure they do...........things like running several campuses, academics, budgets and if they get time maybe athletics.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Jimbob111 on October 11, 2017, 06:35:12 am
He hasn't fired any asst coaches, he hasn't benched his starting QB and they owe him $15,000,000 dollars. I just don't see the ptb at a tipping point yet. Couple more brutal losses plus losing to couple bad teams may change things.

Bret's too prideful to accept blame and won't fire anyone. I think he'll negotiate a buyout because he wants out of Arkansas as much as we want him gone. He knows what time it is. He knows everyone is on to him. Like Nutt at the end, he'll negotiate just to save face and pretend he wasn't going to be fired for incompetence.
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Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 11, 2017, 06:58:16 am
Bret's too prideful to accept blame and won't fire anyone. I think he'll negotiate a buyout because he wants out of Arkansas as much as we want him gone. He knows what time it is. He knows everyone is on to him. Like Nutt at the end, he'll negotiate just to save face and pretend he wasn't going to be fired for incompetence.

What part of the has NO motivation or reason to negotiate any buyout do some of you not understand. He already has done that and it's in HIS favor. He might as well say "Pay me my money". Come to think of it we've heard that before somewhere.............................
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Post by: PonderinHog on October 11, 2017, 07:09:37 am
True, that ship has sailed.
Whew, one less thing to worry about!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: From Tusk Till Dawn on October 11, 2017, 07:56:37 am
Hell if he not only got to a bowl but WON it (no matter how craptastic of a bowl it was), I bet he'd get a friggin raise by JL... Look at how poor we truly were when he got his current contract extension. 2-6 in SEC play and beat a TERRIBLE Texas team in the bowl. TWO AND SIX!
Yes but that was after 2 overall losing seasons and we played hard that year. Everyone was ranked in the top 25.  Was on the edge of my seat every game.  Almost beat bama in the rain, blanked lsu and ole miss.  But still laid an egg at Missouri.  Just too many close ones that got away. 
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 11, 2017, 08:03:12 am
Im wondering if 2 weeks from now after Ark has given up maybe 110 pts over 2 games and scored maybe 20 if those people might start to "mobilize" and start the ball rolling to get things changed.

Personally, I think its just too much money for the Razorback Foundation and its supporters to part with. Not saying they dont have it or have access to it.  However,  to buy out BB, possibly have to buyout the new coach from the school where he coaches presently and then have to come up with a package that entices said coach to move his family to Fayetteville would be a nice chunk of change.  I mean no doubt Jerry Jones,  JB Hunt, the Tysons can come up with the money--no doubt, but WOULD they?  Im just not close enough to the situation to know if they actually would and from what I have read on this board, it doesnt appear that the Waltons (who could find that kind of scratch in their seat cushions in their couches) care who coaches football and dont donate big sums of $$$ for athletics.

That doesn't cover up the fact that you still have to get this guy out of here as soon as possible.  It's a bad buyout by Long but you still have to deal with it.  Whatever little recruiting we had going is going to dry up.  Fire him, appoint an intern from within, and not some senile old man and try to right the ship over a few years.  This guy has literally set the program back 10 years.
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Post by: BallHog1 on October 11, 2017, 08:13:04 am
It is obvious to me that Bret can no longer get quality coaches  to work for him;  the last few hires had really, really thin resumes. And it would be even more difficult now, with all the analysts having given up on him, at Arkansas at least. I certainly hope no one buys that stalling tactic.
I know Kurt's was considered kind of thin but what other assistant didn't look pretty good on paper? Just asking because I don't know.
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Post by: The Boar War on October 11, 2017, 08:34:02 am
I know Kurt's was considered kind of thin but what other assistant didn't look pretty good on paper? Just asking because I don't know.

Our last two defensive hires.  Both were assistants who were recently promoted quality control coaches.  Look at their college resumes.  The only true responsibility over a unit was the Texas Tech defensive line we ran over.
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Post by: Uncle Remus on October 11, 2017, 08:38:12 am
I have been adamant that I have been told by a big booster that it was just not possible until after next season.  I spoke with him yesterday and he said that they are definitely trying to figure out a plan of what to do if the season continues to deteriorate.  He believes that the coaching staff has lost the team at this point and doesn't know that it is something that they can recover from.  He said that the best case scenario is for him to leave to take another opportunity...preferably in the Big 10...like Iowa or Nebraska. 

The other interesting thing is that he said he feels like the pressure is really ramping up with the BOT and big money donors for Long to start looking for new employment as well.  He said that Jeff is anything but safe and that he is feeling the heat as well.  We will see how it will play out, but at this point, its going to be interesting for sure.
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Post by: riccoar on October 11, 2017, 08:44:02 am
So basically, nothing is rolling until the clock hits 0:00 after Missouri.  If we sit 6-6 at the conclusion of that game, I'd predict he would be at the helm come 2018.
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Post by: MudBone on October 11, 2017, 08:47:59 am
How many points will Alabama have to score to get him fire after the ball game.
40 Probably not
50 Getting close, but will wait until the end of season
60 Maybe after the Auburn game
70, Fired before he gets off the field
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: hawgtime on October 11, 2017, 09:11:30 am
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely heís done at season end. Someone please calm my fears


i HOPE -1,000,000%   (if this is confusing, i really, really hope this happens and we can start moving in the right direction!!!!
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: razorsharptusk on October 11, 2017, 09:20:31 am
My opinion is that it's less than 50% that he's fired.  That is due to the buyout and that alone.

But, I think there will be some sacrificial offerings thrown out to appease the masses.  Get rid of a couple of coaches and make them the scapegoat. 

I really don't understand why a certain coach has not already been tossed to the wolves.

I see your point.  But it appears Coach B. isn't a homerun hitter when it comes to hiring assistants.  I don't care who he fires, it falls on his shoulders.  This is year 5 and I don't see us getting bowl eligible.   This is HIS players.  This is HIS assistants. It's time to go.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: The Boar War on October 11, 2017, 10:35:52 am
At this time there are no signs from the people who could make it happen that Bielema will be fired. That can always change depending on what takes place over the next several weeks but there is no indication right now that he'll be gone.

I believe you.  Just for discussion's sake what would such an indication look like with seven games left in the season?
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Dominicanhog on October 11, 2017, 10:44:13 am
5 wins and it's a sure thing..... 4 is 40/60 no...
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 11, 2017, 03:28:05 pm
Mike, do you honestly think Bielema is doing a good job here?   Do you really think he has the TEAM?

Don't you think he is going to ride Austin Allen till the poor kid has a really messed up shoulder?

Do you really believe he is a good coach at this point?

Good grief...
Mike, do you enjoy punching babies?  Do you really think dog fighting is a good sport?  Did you vote for Hillary? 

Why the grilling of Mike?  He was passing along information, not stating his own opinions there.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: moses_007 on October 11, 2017, 03:30:56 pm
Could CBB be reaassigned to a different position and avoid the buyout?   Most folks like him personally.   

NO.  He has a contract that says he is head football coach through 2020.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: PorkSoda on October 11, 2017, 03:49:38 pm
NO.  He has a contract that says he is head football coach through 2020.
he can be put on paid administrative leave.  then he can be the HC from his coach. 
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: DLUXHOG on October 11, 2017, 03:51:56 pm
Nutt hung out for 10 years............:(
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: AugustaHog on October 11, 2017, 03:54:23 pm
He's not getting fired this year, unfortunately.  We can't afford 15 mil.  The big boosters may get themselves in a lather over what's coming our way the next two weeks, but I would think that's a pretty tough number to hit regardless.  This whole debacle is going to kill recruiting and we weren't going to have a great class anyways.  I would suspect that next year is going to be hard to recruit too.  Things aren't getting better unless he pulls a miracle and closes strong (not happening) or he is fired. 
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Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 11, 2017, 03:54:57 pm
our luck.. prolly a very slim chance it happens before 2019
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 12, 2017, 07:25:29 am
He's not getting fired this year, unfortunately.  We can't afford 15 mil.  The big boosters may get themselves in a lather over what's coming our way the next two weeks, but I would think that's a pretty tough number to hit regardless.  This whole debacle is going to kill recruiting and we weren't going to have a great class anyways.  I would suspect that next year is going to be hard to recruit too.  Things aren't getting better unless he pulls a miracle and closes strong (not happening) or he is fired. 

No we can afford it. Affordablity is one thing, willingness to pay it another. What makes you think that the money couldn't be there? That being said there may not want to pay that much and give it a year and save a little money. The question then becomes "does that alienate too many fans to the point it hurts overall and makes it harder to recover".
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Seebs on October 12, 2017, 07:28:31 am
Zero chance he is here now that the money appears much less to buy him out. He is already gone.
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Post by: rhames on October 12, 2017, 07:38:04 am
Zero chance he is here now that the money appears much less to buy him out. He is already gone.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: runninhog on October 12, 2017, 07:54:08 am
Probably close to zero. I was told last night key people have already decided his fate and the Foundation is going to pay the bill.
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Post by: 12247 on October 12, 2017, 10:43:58 am
Based on the past 25 plus years of hiring and firing HC for football, it is unlikely he is up for being let go.  We have a very broken system here at Arkansas that allows our sorry system to stay broken, thus we continue to hire happenstance while looking like we don't.  If he is let go, it will be at a point which would be in his best interest and not the University's.  We really need to be first in line for the the available coaches, not last.  He has done nothing for us that creates a need to hang onto him.  Anyway, if the new info about his buyout is true, it appears we pay about the same thing if he stays or goes.  Seems we either pay him for standing in the way of moving forward and continuing to screw up the program from within, or we fire him and pay him the same to get the hell away from us.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: 12247 on October 12, 2017, 10:46:47 am
Anyway, I don't believe he is in line for being let go.  Even if upper management may have brought up the subject, Long likely threw down that if he's fired, Long will quit and Lord knows, none of us want that. You just cannot afford to lose the glue that holds this storied program together, right?
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Post by: Hogs-n-Roses on October 12, 2017, 10:58:33 am
 Well we'll be 2-5 in 9 days. 4 games left. Some really bad O lines , really bad defenses left. 4 game streak to end the year? Nah he's toast. 5.9 + 4.4 = 10. 3 mil to go to an island with Jen and the new baby and not have this stress. :puke:
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Post by: sickboy on October 12, 2017, 12:39:32 pm
I don't know what the chances are that Bielema isn't fired. But I do think the chances that he's not coaching Arkansas next year are near 100% by the end of the season.

He'd really have to pull out wins against Bama and Auburn to turn the tide as it stands now. More than likely, the fervor is only going to grow in the next couple weeks to the point where I don't think it really matters if we pull out wins against a Mississippi school or LSU -- certainly not Mizzou. If we go into Mizzou with little in our hand as far as wins and he doesn't pull out a win there... he might be run out of dodge, sadly.
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Post by: HogSlop84 on October 12, 2017, 12:43:23 pm
Upset Bama or Auburn 100% no upset 10%
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Post by: Porkatarian on October 12, 2017, 12:44:26 pm
Slim and none, and slim just left the building.


Porkatarian out...
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Post by: hoghearted on October 12, 2017, 12:45:56 pm
Every new article that comes out just reinforces the idea that he's gone after the season. Only question in my mind is will it be before or after January 1?
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Post by: rhames on October 12, 2017, 12:46:15 pm
Slim and none, and slim just left the building.


Porkatarian out...


STAR WARS and a new coach come to December
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: rhames on October 12, 2017, 12:46:39 pm
Every new article that comes out just reinforces the idea that he's gone after the season. Only question in my mind is will it be before or after January 1?



He probably won't make it through November.
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Post by: HawgTide on October 12, 2017, 12:58:00 pm
Well we'll be 2-5 in 9 days. 4 games left. Some really bad O lines , really bad defenses left. 4 game streak to end the year? Nah he's toast. 5.9 + 4.4 = 10. 3 mil to go to an island with Jen and the new baby and not have this stress. :puke:

I think you mean we have 5 games left after Alabama and Auburn. Sitting 2-5 with a road trip to Ole Miss looming there's no way this train gets turned around. He gone
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Post by: HoggyCat on October 12, 2017, 03:50:16 pm
Yeah, it's a circus alright.  The aerial act has plummeted to the ground, the running attack is fixing to get trampled by elephants, and the kicking game is going to fall short of or totally miss the safety net.

And the master of ceremonies is fixing to run off with all the money!

And tigers!!! Don't forget the tigers!!!!

War eagle.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Pigstie on October 12, 2017, 04:03:30 pm
For that matter there were no signs before Chaney left. We were told they were like family. Then there were no signs Pittman was leaving.
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Post by: lilRockNDubb on October 12, 2017, 04:36:43 pm
About as much of a chance as us beating Bama Saturday..
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Post by: The_Iceman on October 12, 2017, 04:39:28 pm
Would have to go 5-1 after Bama to stay to the bowl. A bowl win would keep his job.
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Post by: 311Hog on October 12, 2017, 04:51:29 pm
sweep the rest of the season kind of chance =)  shock the world.
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Post by: Bacons Rebellion on October 12, 2017, 05:16:54 pm
If the uncoached, unprepared players can find a way to win 4 or 5 total, he may get an extension, pay raise, and stupid buyout.  I believe he is still in tight with Jeff and Jeff still carries a lot of say. If he went 4 & 2 I would still want him gone.  He is a blight on the program.

With the players we have and the current crap the SEC has to offer this season, we should have been a shoo in for 8 wins this season and 10 should not have been out of the question.  Here we are, grubbing around trying to find 6 wins. 

4 wins won't do it. That would the last 2 wins are Coastal Carolina and Missouri. 3-8 going into the Missouri game will mean the losing card has already hit the table.
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Post by: HoggyCat on October 12, 2017, 05:22:01 pm
For that matter there were no signs before Chaney left. We were told they were like family. Then there were no signs Pittman was leaving.

Refresh my memory, who was OC when bert said "I've just came out of my most abrasive coaches' meeting because I can't make these guys understand we've got to run the ball"??  (Paraphrasing). Was it Enos' first year or prior?
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Post by: hogcard1964 on October 12, 2017, 05:22:59 pm
I still can't believe we probably won't go to a bowl.
Title: Re: Whatís the chance B.B. isnít fired.........
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 12, 2017, 06:16:21 pm
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely heís done at season end. Someone please calm my fears
Hate to say it; however, I suspect that it's far better than us beating the Tide this weekend.
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Post by: Athog on October 12, 2017, 09:08:26 pm
This scares the crap out of me. I mean surely heís done at season end. Someone please calm my fears

Depends on the rest of the season.
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Post by: TNRazorbacker on October 12, 2017, 09:15:20 pm
I think the chance he's fired is very slim. Even with a losing record he gets another year. I think he may read the tea leaves and leave on his own though.