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Title: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Mike Irwin on October 09, 2017, 08:48:31 pm
Will the Hogs have to start a freshman QB against No. 1 Alabama?
http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-kelley-play-against-bama/831486072 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-kelley-play-against-bama/831486072)
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: alohawg on October 09, 2017, 08:49:14 pm
Lord, for his sake I hope not.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: hassettsportsman on October 09, 2017, 08:53:58 pm
Kelley will have to play at some point.  How many more hits can AA take?  I'm worried about concussion protocol for AA after his Hog career is done!
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Rayzback on October 09, 2017, 09:05:01 pm
Start no.... play yes.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: HeathWimp on October 09, 2017, 09:11:22 pm
He only meaningful snaps if AA is not cleared.  He might play the last series or two if Austin is cleared.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: tncbg on October 09, 2017, 09:54:05 pm
AA wonít survive the first half. I just hope they donít knock him out for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: TeufelHog on October 09, 2017, 10:04:55 pm
It's a mistake if he doesn't.  Personally, I think he should start from here on out.  Here's why . . . young man is not afraid to "put the team on his back," tuck the ball, and run it down-field when he needs to.  EVERY SEC TEAM knows AA will not, so it's a threat they do not have to respect.  Obviously the coaching staff doesn't want AA to do that because they are afraid he will get injured.  Well, "NEWS FLASH" he's been taking the punishment anyway due to the lack of OLine protection and is now injured?/dinged-up? anyway.  Every successful SEC team has a dual-threat QB, if for nothing else, to make the opposition honor the additional threat.  We haven't for the last 5 years.

While I appreciate EVERYTHING both AA and BA have accomplished/sacrificed here at Arkansas, it's time to prepare for the future.  Get CK all the reps he needs to prepare for next year and beyond.  Give AA a darn break for heaven's sake.  He's taken enough punishment the last 2 years.  I also think we have seen enough to understand his NFL opportunities are limited at best when compared to Mallett/Wilson/BA.  IMHO, it's just time to move on and prepare for the future.  Will we?  Unfortunately, I do not think so.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLineô on October 09, 2017, 10:12:13 pm
I listened to the game on the radio and missed seeing Cole Kelley run the offense, and I can't find any film of it on line yet. I would have thought some SC fan might have uploaded it by now.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: leroyhawg on October 10, 2017, 03:37:33 am
It's a mistake if he doesn't.  Personally, I think he should start from here on out.  Here's why . . . young man is not afraid to "put the team on his back," tuck the ball, and run it down-field when he needs to.  EVERY SEC TEAM knows AA will not, so it's a threat they do not have to respect.  Obviously the coaching staff doesn't want AA to do that because they are afraid he will get injured.  Well, "NEWS FLASH" he's been taking the punishment anyway due to the lack of OLine protection and is now injured?/dinged-up? anyway.  Every successful SEC team has a dual-threat QB, if for nothing else, to make the opposition honor the additional threat.  We haven't for the last 5 years.

While I appreciate EVERYTHING both AA and BA have accomplished/sacrificed here at Arkansas, it's time to prepare for the future.  Get CK all the reps he needs to prepare for next year and beyond.  Give AA a darn break for heaven's sake.  He's taken enough punishment the last 2 years.  I also think we have seen enough to understand his NFL opportunities are limited at best when compared to Mallett/Wilson/BA.  IMHO, it's just time to move on and prepare for the future.  Will we?  Unfortunately, I do not think so.
Couldn't have said it better myself, and what fans I have talked to feel the same but BB IS the only one that matters, his ass is in the crack, but it's time.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: leroyhawg on October 10, 2017, 04:02:29 am
AA seems like he's lost it, it's time for Cole, he might die young or he might be competitive,  well wishes to whomever it is
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: BILLYBOB on October 10, 2017, 05:41:21 am
At this point, what in the world do you have to lose. We ain't beating Alabama. The offense has been horrible. Why not try big man? Maybe he'll rally the team.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: MudBone on October 10, 2017, 05:43:35 am
It might be time for a change, But not this game, would like to see Kelley play for us after this game due to the fact that Alabama defense verses our offense will get the QB's sent to the hospital. Start the 3rd string and hope for the best like keeping the game within 50 points.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Pigdiana Jones on October 10, 2017, 07:42:25 am
It wonít matter who is back there if the line canít keep them from killing the QB. Tom Brady himself wouldnít be any better.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: TexArkHogFan on October 10, 2017, 07:47:16 am
I predict Kelley will play significant minutes and he will surprise a lot of people.  He tested the water against SC and said, "come on in boys, the water's fine."
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 10, 2017, 08:15:05 am
Will the Hogs have to start a freshman QB against No. 1 Alabama?
http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-kelley-play-against-bama/831486072 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-kelley-play-against-bama/831486072)
He better unless the coaches are okay with Allen being broken in half the first time he holds the ball too long in the pocket when he can't make his reads fast enough.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: riccoar on October 10, 2017, 08:18:32 am
I don't remember seeing the announcers say anything about Allen, but it was obvious he was side arming his throws sometime in the 2nd half. 

At this point, you would think Bielema would be throwing anything and everything against the wall to save his job.  Status quo ain't getting us anywhere.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: DeltaBoy on October 10, 2017, 08:31:47 am
I hope not I dont want the boy shattered before he really gets going. 
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: sigpooie on October 10, 2017, 09:12:07 am
Bs, on the baby to the wolf crap. This kid is ready and is not playing afraid or hurt. He can hit receivers better in a game setting than allen. And I'm sick and tired of Allen acting like a little boy. Cb is gone either way, so he's not going to help us during his last days. So he'll get allen hurt before he puts ck in.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: TNhawgfan on October 10, 2017, 09:45:01 am
Bama ended FSU's qb's season with an injury, but honestly, that type of hit could happen any game. You don't sit a qb who is healthy in fear of him getting hurt. If CK is ready to be the #1 then let him have it
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: 2thebeatya1973 on October 10, 2017, 10:41:16 am
Give me one good reason and it better be good why he shouldnít.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: BigBrandonAllenFan on October 10, 2017, 10:58:19 am
This is the perfect opportunity for Kelley.  He'll get the real feel on exactly what playing on the road in the SEC is all about. 

I'd much rather see Kelley get his first start against the best team in the SEC on the road than against some weak little sister team at home.  Put him in the grinder.  Give him a real test.  Bama may get to him a time or two with a sack, but they are not at all likely to injure his big Goliath @ss.

If you play Bama on the road the first time you start, anything else is a downhill ride from there. 
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: SSFrazorback on October 10, 2017, 11:03:09 am
Yes, he will. After Bama knocks AA out of the game. With this OL we'll probably see Storey too.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: DeltaBoy on October 10, 2017, 11:39:55 am
But TJ Hammonds in and run the Wildcat all game.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Breems on October 10, 2017, 12:09:45 pm
I listened to the game on the radio and missed seeing Cole Kelley run the offense, and I can't find any film of it on line yet. I would have thought some SC fan might have uploaded it by now.

The reply might still be on WatchESPN.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: threeNout on October 10, 2017, 12:11:58 pm
if he doesn't, it means we are not even trying.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: 010HogFan on October 10, 2017, 01:47:48 pm
if he doesn't, it means we are not even trying.

This!!! Do something different! Coaches need to do something to show they still care and are trying to innovate with each coming week. Doing the same thing over and over just comes across as literally not caring what happens.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wildhog on October 10, 2017, 01:55:48 pm
I'd rather not get the future of our football team murdered in his first start.  We're not winning that game, regardless of the QB we start.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: longpig on October 10, 2017, 02:26:33 pm
AA will as likely come out of the game for issues above the shoulders as in the shoulder. 
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Hoginsavga on October 10, 2017, 03:50:50 pm
Whether Kelley or Allen is playing they need to line up every play in the shotgun position instead of under center. I canít think of any successful college team currently running an offense like we run. Even in the fourth quarter against SC Kelley lined up often under center and had to drop back while looking for his receivers.

Itís probably too late to expect or even hope for a change in our offense scheme. However, if I were the coach you would definitely see a change in our approach against Bama. There is nothing more to lose at this point.

With regard to AA I really feel sorry for the young man. He looked so promising the first half of last season and I still believe he would be an outstanding qb in the right system. Hopefully he will get his just opportunity during NFL tryouts. I know there are seven games left but Iím afraid his college career is not going to reflect what he could have been.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: rmcchris on October 10, 2017, 04:08:44 pm
See IA State at Oklahoma.  OK a 31 point favorite AT HOME.   IA St. starts 3rd string QB on depth chart and a freshman.  IA St pulls off biggest upset of maybe all time.  OK ranked #3 in the nation.  #gottabelieve
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Mike Irwin on October 10, 2017, 05:21:39 pm
All this talk about Alabama hurting Kelley, do any of you have statistics that show Alabama injures opposing players at a higher rate than other schools?

Alabama may sack him. They may pick him off but Cole Kelley is one of the most solidly built players I've ever seen. I figure he's physical enough to handle himself.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Lanny on October 10, 2017, 05:23:34 pm
A 3rd string QB didn't hurt Iowa State last week
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Rayzback on October 10, 2017, 06:06:40 pm
All this talk about Alabama hurting Kelley, do any of you have statistics that show Alabama injures opposing players at a higher rate than other schools?

Alabama may sack him. They may pick him off but Cole Kelley is one of the most solidly built players I've ever seen. I figure he's physical enough to handle himself.

Agree. Mercer has a red shirt freshman that played Auburn and still has Bama coming up.  Maybe Bama is holding back against teams like Mercer? (Saban's head explodes).
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Calling All Hogs on October 10, 2017, 07:00:25 pm
I suspect Allen will play the whole game even if they have a wheel him out on the field and stand him up.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wayne Watson on October 10, 2017, 07:48:52 pm
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Alabama may sack him. They may pick him off but Cole Kelley is one of the most solidly built players I've ever seen. I figure he's physical enough to handle himself.
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This is why Kelley should be the QB in this game.  Everyone agrees the O-Line is terrible.  They can't protect Allen.  Allen get's on his back too many times and his frustration effects the rest of of the team.  With Allen, it's not a physical thing, it's a mental thing.  Time for a change from the QB, coach and AD.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: BigBrandonAllenFan on October 10, 2017, 08:21:53 pm
I'd rather not get the future of our football team murdered in his first start.  We're not winning that game, regardless of the QB we start.
Yeah, and Iowa State hadn't beaten Oklahoma in Norman since like sometime in the 1960's, and it was their first win over OU since 1990.  Better yet, Iowa State did it with their third string QB that was thrust into his first game ever. 

So why do you think Arkansas has no chance if Goliath Kelley gets the start?  If it was over before it started we may as well never get on the plane.

The team will rally around Kelley, but they have no confidence in Allen.  If Arkansas has any chance to win, it is with Kelley.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: BigBrandonAllenFan on October 10, 2017, 08:23:00 pm
A 3rd string QB didn't hurt Iowa State last week

Nailed it in one short sentence..
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: BigBrandonAllenFan on October 10, 2017, 08:25:19 pm
I suspect Allen will play the whole game even if they have a wheel him out on the field and stand him up.

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Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: TexArkHogFan on October 10, 2017, 08:26:57 pm
I wish we were privy to practice reports.  The entire week should be geared to plays that would benefit Kelley.  If they aren't then that's a coaching problem who clearly refuses to deal with reality.  If our coach thinks we are gonna run the ball down their throat with his hard headed opinion that we are a running team first and foremost then get ready for a long day.    If every single play has to be in the shotgun or Hog Wild formation then so be it.  That being said, our defense is what will kill us.  Bama will probably score on every possession.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: BigBrandonAllenFan on October 10, 2017, 08:33:50 pm
I wish we were privy to practice reports.  The entire week should be geared to plays that would benefit Kelley.  If they aren't then that's a coaching problem who clearly refuses to deal with reality.  If our coach thinks we are gonna run the ball down their throat with his hard headed opinion that we are a running team first and foremost then get ready for a long day.    If every single play has to be in the shotgun or Hog Wild formation then so be it.  That being said, our defense is what will kill us.  Bama will probably score on every possession.

Our defense has not been whipped.  South Carolina scored 3 defensive TD's.  Take away those points and it is 27-22 instead of 48-22.  Look at TCU, look at A&M.  The inability of the offense to help keep the defense off the field is the problem.  Read the tapes.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: PorkRinds on October 11, 2017, 12:34:50 am
I'd rather not get the future of our football team murdered in his first start.  We're not winning that game, regardless of the QB we start.

Let Storey take one for the team.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Jimbob111 on October 11, 2017, 06:45:00 am
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Yep, Bret has his man and he'll stick with him even if it gets Allen murdered on the field. Bret has shown nothing in his past that indicates he will play the most talented player but rather chooses favorites.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Boarcephus on October 11, 2017, 07:47:49 am
It would be a good move on Bielema's part because nothing excites the fanbase like a new coach or a new qb.  New coach won't happen Saturday but a new qb will help his cause.  You could trot out the second coming of Joe Willie and you still wouldn't win the game because we won't hold them to under 50 unless Saban want to so I say give him a chance. 
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: 010HogFan on October 11, 2017, 09:34:48 am
Yep, Bret has his man and he'll stick with him even if it gets Allen murdered on the field. Bret has shown nothing in his past that indicates he will play the most talented player but rather chooses favorites.

It was never more evident than when Brandon Allen got hurt in the Mizzou game and he wouldn't put Austin in. As much as he talks about it, he doesn't seem to give a rip about player safety when it's his own players.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Dominicanhog on October 11, 2017, 10:14:03 am
Early 2nd qtr..... if we are not moving the ball at all ......late 3rd ...if it's out of control.. and, not at all if we are in it w/o him....
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Tejano Jawg on October 11, 2017, 10:26:35 am
There's no reason for Bielema/media to be truthful about Austin's health. Heck, I don't even know how many things are wrong with him.

Saban talked about AA's 400-yard performance (against them in 2016) several times last year. I wish Saban and Co. had a reason to still be worried this year. But nothing AA has shown consistently would make them feel that way. They may be preparing for Kelley right now.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: AP85 on October 11, 2017, 10:36:20 am
I hope so.

Sit ogrady too. Iím tired of seeing these 7a west flops killing sustained drives.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wildhog on October 11, 2017, 11:14:29 am
Yeah, and Iowa State hadn't beaten Oklahoma in Norman since like sometime in the 1960's, and it was their first win over OU since 1990.  Better yet, Iowa State did it with their third string QB that was thrust into his first game ever. 

So why do you think Arkansas has no chance if Goliath Kelley gets the start?  If it was over before it started we may as well never get on the plane.

The team will rally around Kelley, but they have no confidence in Allen.  If Arkansas has any chance to win, it is with Kelley.

OU <> Bama

Bielema <> Campbell
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Pigsknuckles on October 11, 2017, 12:51:53 pm
I suspect Allen will play the whole game even if they have a wheel him out on the field and stand him up.
We can call it Weekend at Tuscaloosa.
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Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Hoggish1 on October 11, 2017, 01:55:14 pm
All this talk about Alabama hurting Kelley, do any of you have statistics that show Alabama injures opposing players at a higher rate than other schools?

Alabama may sack him. They may pick him off but Cole Kelley is one of the most solidly built players I've ever seen. I figure he's physical enough to handle himself.

So true.  He's also tall enough to see what's coming.

Let Kelley hurt some Bama players...
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: arthurhawgerelli on October 11, 2017, 02:26:42 pm
All this talk about Alabama hurting Kelley, do any of you have statistics that show Alabama injures opposing players at a higher rate than other schools?

Alabama may sack him. They may pick him off but Cole Kelley is one of the most solidly built players I've ever seen. I figure he's physical enough to handle himself.

What statistics exist on the factor of Arkansas having the two weakest offensive tackles in the SEC?  I donít care how big the QB is, if those men that play D-Line for Bama get after a QB who doesnít have quick lateral movement, thereís high possibility Clark Kent at QB could get hurt.

I figure Kelley will play some, or maybe more. Muschamp had called off the big dogs and was liberally subbing. I worry for him, but if Austin is too banged up or gets more banged up, we donít have much choice. Maybe some Wildcat with Chase and TJ taking snaps would be safer.

You donít play the game on paper, but if you did, we donít stand a chance. Thank goodness it will be on the field. Football is a game of momentum. If Austin or Cole hit a few big plays early, who knows?
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: hogfanincajunland on October 11, 2017, 03:31:32 pm
Quote
As much as he talks about it, he doesn't seem to give a rip about player safety when it's his own players.

Perhaps his issue with HUNH had more to do with his dislike for / inability to coach against it than player safety?
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: presidenthog on October 11, 2017, 03:48:13 pm
Perhaps his issue with HUNH had more to do with his dislike for / inability to coach against it than player safety?

I believe 100% that is the problem. We have terrible S&C. No speed. No conditioning for the 4th qtr, or teams like that. I can't wait for this fraud to leave.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: swineology on October 11, 2017, 04:04:25 pm
I'd rather not get the future of our football team murdered in his first start.  We're not winning that game, regardless of the QB we start.


Who was the last QB that Bama murdered?
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: 010HogFan on October 11, 2017, 04:08:22 pm
Perhaps his issue with HUNH had more to do with his dislike for / inability to coach against it than player safety?

Bingo
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wildhog on October 11, 2017, 04:18:00 pm

Who was the last QB that Bama murdered?

Austin last year.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: swineology on October 11, 2017, 06:06:57 pm
Austin last year.


Let's take a look, Austin didn't leave the game, woke up the next morning still breathing.

AA   6'1" 215lbs
CK   6'7" 268 lbs


I'll ride with Cole Kelly on this one and experience doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: The Kig on October 11, 2017, 07:06:00 pm
Give me one good reason and it better be good why he shouldnít.

Easy... Bama is gonna break whoever we start with our atrocious OL.   They might break more than one QB... Start Kelley the rest of the season and MAYBE win a few games, save your job...
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wildhog on October 11, 2017, 07:24:50 pm

Let's take a look, Austin didn't leave the game, woke up the next morning still breathing.

AA   6'1" 215lbs
CK   6'7" 268 lbs


I'll ride with Cole Kelly on this one and experience doesn't matter.

BAís first start against Bama almost ruined him.  Let Cole start next week in a friendlier environment.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: swineology on October 11, 2017, 07:38:31 pm
BAís first start against Bama almost ruined him.  Let Cole start next week in a friendlier environment.

Almost is the key word

BA came out ok, Bama ain't gonna kill CK

Carry on with Bama gonna murder all our players,
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wildhog on October 11, 2017, 07:42:25 pm
Almost is the key word

BA came out ok, Bama ain't gonna kill CK

Carry on with Bama gonna murder all our players,

Ded
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: HouSwine on October 11, 2017, 07:55:39 pm
I'd rather not get the future of our football team murdered in his first start.  We're not winning that game, regardless of the QB we start.
This right here is the reason Arkansas can't get over the hump. Ever. Note that the teams that beat us have had their share of frosh QB's
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Hoggiedawg on October 11, 2017, 08:07:29 pm
To OP.....Does it matter?
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: The Kig on October 11, 2017, 08:08:39 pm
So true.  He's also tall enough to see what's coming.

Let Kelley hurt some Bama players...

DAFAQ?  6'7" 260lb QB that lumbers downfield more like an elephant than a gazelle...is gonna "hurt" some 5* assassins running free past an OL with no idea that their guy is already behind them? 

Drugs are bad...mmmmm-kay?
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wildhog on October 11, 2017, 08:56:47 pm
This right here is the reason Arkansas can't get over the hump. Ever. Note that the teams that beat us have had their share of frosh QB's

Yes, itís all my fault.  Sorry guys.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: smb on October 12, 2017, 09:17:51 am
No matter who plays QB they are going to think they were hit by Bobby Boucher after talking about his momma!
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: GroŖer Kriegschwein on October 12, 2017, 10:44:06 am
We can call it Weekend at Tuscaloosa.
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Lol
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: RazorbackEagle1996 on October 12, 2017, 11:37:55 am
What do we have to lose I mean honestly the season can't get any worse! Start him maybe something magical will happen! Ain't holding my breath but sure wouldn't hurt to try!
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 12, 2017, 02:49:16 pm
I suspect Allen will play the whole game even if they have a wheel him out on the field and stand him up.

No doubt:

Bielema has a history at Arkansas of playing quarterbacks nursing injuries. In 2013 Brandon Allen started eight games while recovering from a separated shoulder suffered in the third game of the season. The following year Bielema played Allen the entire game against Missouri even though he was clearly struggling from a hip pointer that limited his mobility.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: jgphillips3 on October 12, 2017, 04:50:51 pm
Cole Kelley is as big as an offensive tackle.  Let him play.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: jaredkr on October 12, 2017, 06:07:11 pm
Crazy how fast you all turn your back on AA.. Guy has given everything and has NEVER embarrassed the University.. You let him play as long as heís able.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Carl Lazlo on October 12, 2017, 08:29:03 pm
Crazy how fast you all turn your back on AA.. Guy has given everything and has NEVER embarrassed the University.. You let him play as long as heís able.

This is complete b.s.  No player is bigger than the program.  If a guy isn't getting it done then him sit down and let someone run the O that a defense actually has to account for.  Teams aren't scared to get beat by the deep ball because AA consistently underthrows deep routes.  CK is afraid to pull it down and get yardage when wr aren't open. Plus he can take the top of a d. This would allow the run game to open up plus intermediate and short pass routes.  Lots could be accomplished with a 6'7 270 athletic qb.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Hoot72 on October 13, 2017, 06:02:38 am
It seems pretty obvious that everyone believes that we are going to lose to Alabama, regardless of who the quarterback is.  If you believe Allen gives you a better chance of winning games after Auburn, you play Kelly; and let Allen completely heal over the next two weeks.  If Kelly comes in, sets the world on fire, then you keep playing him.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: smb on October 13, 2017, 07:45:55 am
I think the problem is CBB always says that he plays the QB who gives us the best chance to win. I'm sorry I'm getting pretty tired of hearing this one.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Hoggish1 on October 13, 2017, 09:34:51 am

Let's take a look, Austin didn't leave the game, woke up the next morning still breathing.

AA   6'1" 215lbs
CK   6'7" 268 lbs


I'll ride with Cole Kelly on this one and experience doesn't matter.

I'd take 6'1" with a grain of salt...
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: 010HogFan on October 13, 2017, 10:26:12 am
Crazy how fast you all turn your back on AA.. Guy has given everything and has NEVER embarrassed the University.. You let him play as long as heís able.

No offense, but this concept is completely stupid. He's not getting it done on the field and that is all that matters. Let the young buck get a taste of what a real football game is like and start grooming him for next year. We have no chance to win this game either way anyway, but Cole being in the game just does something to our offense. Gives it a new life.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: Wild Boarnado on October 13, 2017, 11:32:47 am
I'm more concerned with Auburn injuring our QBs than I am Bama. Perhaps it is just a gut feeling I get, but it seems that Bama plays to dominate and stop you while Auburn seems to put you out of the game. It was Auburn that broke RWIII, AA, and broke Ole Miss's Treadwell. If AA is still recovering, I think CK should take over until he is 100%. JMHO
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: sigpooie on October 14, 2017, 06:23:51 am
To all you Jedi mind bending arm chair idiots. Confidence is built in a win or loss to a team that is this good. (Note..they cheated, always have and always will) . Allen does not deserve to be on the same field as these players and you'll see it in the 1st two drives today.  His problems are that he spent 3 years on the hill staying the same and I can't remember a hog qb with a worst  attitude or less leadership skills. I'm also worried that if kelley wins this game that we might keep the idiot that got us here in the first place.
Title: Re: Will Kelley Play Against 'Bama?
Post by: From Tusk Till Dawn on October 14, 2017, 08:50:41 am
I just dont follow the line of reasoning from some of these threads.  Ex other teams have had success with freshman qb why cant we.  BA was a freshman?? CBB always plays favorites.  Like in what way, personality?  What possible motivation would our head coach have to play someone that doesn't give us the best shot to win (other than off the field issues which does not include CK)    CK said himself there was no QB controversy.  I think CK has lots of potential but he's also only been in a handful of series and has a fumble and a pick 6 during garbage time.