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Started by SwinedMelon, June 21, 2006, 10:12:49 pm

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SwinedMelon

They are interviewing John David Booty and filming his workouts... I thought this was against the rules!!?!?!?!?

http://usc.scout.com/2/541309.html
"Bar-keep, another go around again. One for me and whats-his-name, my new best friend!"

hog4lifetime1979

Whats bad is when you film the new recurits not the ones already there.

 

mikeirwin

The rule applies to true freshmen. Supposedly you can't shoot any video unless is does not show any freshmen. That's hard to do.

SwinedMelon

Okay- I guess I forgot about the freshmen aspect of it...

Someone do a special on Michael Smith... is he on campus this summer?
"Bar-keep, another go around again. One for me and whats-his-name, my new best friend!"

SwinedMelon

Ahhh... and Bo just answered my Q on air... was he answering me specifically?
"Bar-keep, another go around again. One for me and whats-his-name, my new best friend!"

Arazorbackguy1

Quote from: russellclaude on June 21, 2006, 10:27:58 pm
Ahhh... and Bo just answered my Q on air... was he answering me specifically?

Can I get your autograph?
I have 10 to 12 points to make per game.

piglett06

June 22, 2006, 09:49:40 am #6 Last Edit: June 22, 2006, 09:57:05 am by piglett06
So why is there a total blackout then? Its almost as if someone is saying, "What you don't know won't hurt the rest of us." Just tell the fans (webers) no information. That way no  information no damage from irresponsible fans.  Just a thought in reacting to a rather strange situation with no (little) summer news on the Hogs.

pseudorabies

Quote from: piglett06 on June 22, 2006, 09:49:40 am
So why is there a total blackout then?

My thoughts on it is, that this is a way for Houston to get back at the "bad Razorback fans".

charlie harper


piglett06

At last we have a way to unite and they don't like it one bit. They would prefer we don't have a way to organize through free exchange of concerns and opinions. Well sorry guys (Hill elite) just deal with it as it is not going to go away.

FLKeysGuy

Maybe we could have all the incoming freshman wear those "blue screen" clothes... then you could film the whole workout and simply go back and replace each freshman with that creepy Burger King dude or characters from the Simpsons.  8)

WILL CLINTON

Quote from: pseudorabies on June 22, 2006, 09:54:06 am
Quote from: piglett06 on June 22, 2006, 09:49:40 am
So why is there a total blackout then?

My thoughts on it is, that this is a way for Houston to get back at the "bad Razorback fans".


Ding, Ding, I think we may have a winner.  Tell him what he's won Bob.

Well Rich, after suffering thru 2 losing seasons, this will be HDN's last year.  He will receive an all expense paid trip to beautiful sunny Kentucky to replace Rich Brooks after this year.  Back to you Rich. 
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

SwinedMelon

"Bar-keep, another go around again. One for me and whats-his-name, my new best friend!"

 

piglett06

Could the press be in on the no news position. Sure would seem so. But then of course there is always the thought that the news boys don't want to get crossways with the boys on the hill.  And, all us fans suffer for their little arrangement. Freedom of the press?  Would not seem so.

jreaganhog

June 22, 2006, 12:53:30 pm #14 Last Edit: June 22, 2006, 12:55:31 pm by jreaganhog
"It used to be much easier to keep up with summer workouts but a new interpretation of an NCAA rule has made the athletic department cautious about allowing any scrutiny of the throwing and catching that goes on several days a week on the UA practice fields."  Rick Schaffer

Okay, I have a question based on this statement that in years past would never have graced the dull blade that is my thought process due to at least a modicum of trust in the press.  However, it has become evident to me that many in the press have chosen to value their access to the program's ever decreasing inside information (I'm a member of both pay boards but probably not for long) over forthrightness with the fans concerning any negative goings on with the program. 

Admittedly, the media has a tight and difficult rope to walk - especially in Arkansas - but imo they have neglected the other half (great unwashed?) of that delicate balance to the point of many, including myself, becoming highly cynical of many things written and said.  Supply/Demand breaks down when what's being supplied fails to satisfy the demand and the supplier repeatedly insists that he is supplying what you need and what you need is really what you should want.

In other words, don't pee on my leg, tell me is raining and then expect me to be a jolly hog fan.  (And for the record, I've spoken to enough people who should know "things" to sufficiently believe, to my own satisfaction, that the warm, wet liquid on my leg has a tint of yellow.)

Now, on to the cynicism of the day...who's "new interpretation of an NCAA rule" has made the athletic dept cautious?  Did the NCAA issue a clarifying reg. or policy statement?  Are other schools impacted by this development as well? 

Bottom line...what entity is the origin of the "new interpretation?" 




pseudorabies

Quote from: jreaganhog on June 22, 2006, 12:53:30 pm
"It used to be much easier to keep up with summer workouts but a new interpretation of an NCAA rule has made the athletic department cautious about allowing any scrutiny of the throwing and catching that goes on several days a week on the UA practice fields."  Rick Schaffer

Okay, I have a question based on this statement that in years past would never have graced the dull blade that is my thought process due to at least a modicum of trust in the press.  However, it has become evident to me that many in the press have chosen to value their access to the program's ever decreasing inside information (I'm a member of both pay boards but probably not for long) over forthrightness with the fans concerning any negative goings on with the program. 

Admittedly, the media has a tight and difficult rope to walk - especially in Arkansas - but imo they have neglected the other half (great unwashed?) of that delicate balance to the point of many, including myself, becoming highly cynical of many things written and said.  Supply/Demand breaks down when what's being supplied fails to satisfy the demand and the supplier repeatedly insists that he is supplying what you need and what you need is really what you should want.

In other words, don't pee on my leg, tell me is raining and then expect me to be a jolly hog fan.  (And for the record, I've spoken to enough people who should know "things" to sufficiently believe, to my own satisfaction, that the warm, wet liquid on my leg has a tint of yellow.)

Now, on to the cynicism of the day...who's "new interpretation of an NCAA rule" has made the athletic dept cautious?  Did the NCAA issue a clarifying reg. or policy statement?  Are other schools impacted by this development as well? 

Bottom line...what entity is the origin of the "new interpretation?" 


It was an NCAA interpretation all the SEC schools received from an SEC person at one of the SEC meetings they had a couple of weeks ago.  Again they are going off of a persons interpretation.  If you ask a couple of NCAA guys about it, you would likely get diffrent interpretations.  There is no written rule that states that voluntary workouts of incoming freshman should be closed to the media and public.

piglett06

June 22, 2006, 01:08:52 pm #16 Last Edit: June 22, 2006, 01:10:30 pm by piglett06
Quote from: pseudorabies on June 22, 2006, 12:59:23 pm
Quote from: jreaganhog on June 22, 2006, 12:53:30 pm
"It used to be much easier to keep up with summer workouts but a new interpretation of an NCAA rule has made the athletic department cautious about allowing any scrutiny of the throwing and catching that goes on several days a week on the UA practice fields."  Rick Schaffer

Okay, I have a question based on this statement that in years past would never have graced the dull blade that is my thought process due to at least a modicum of trust in the press.  However, it has become evident to me that many in the press have chosen to value their access to the program's ever decreasing inside information (I'm a member of both pay boards but probably not for long) over forthrightness with the fans concerning any negative goings on with the program. 

Admittedly, the media has a tight and difficult rope to walk - especially in Arkansas - but imo they have neglected the other half (great unwashed?) of that delicate balance to the point of many, including myself, becoming highly cynical of many things written and said.  Supply/Demand breaks down when what's being supplied fails to satisfy the demand and the supplier repeatedly insists that he is supplying what you need and what you need is really what you should want.

In other words, don't pee on my leg, tell me is raining and then expect me to be a jolly hog fan.  (And for the record, I've spoken to enough people who should know "things" to sufficiently believe, to my own satisfaction, that the warm, wet liquid on my leg has a tint of yellow.)

Now, on to the cynicism of the day...who's "new interpretation of an NCAA rule" has made the athletic dept cautious?  Did the NCAA issue a clarifying reg. or policy statement?  Are other schools impacted by this development as well? 

Bottom line...what entity is the origin of the "new interpretation?" 


It was an NCAA interpretation all the SEC schools received from an SEC person at one of the SEC meetings they had a couple of weeks ago.  Again they are going off of a persons interpretation.  If you ask a couple of NCAA guys about it, you would likely get diffrent interpretations.  There is no written rule that states that voluntary workouts of incoming freshman should be closed to the media and public.

In any event the situation presents a very good way to keep the ravenous (for information) Hawg fans away from the trough.  Just come up with a rule that keeps everything off limits and the problem is solved. All we then have left is speculation and we can beat that against the tree to our hearts content which we do. First closed practices and now no watching of any kind.  Total B.S. if you ask me.  IMHO

pseudorabies


jreaganhog


PigPusher

Quote from: pseudorabies on June 22, 2006, 01:12:09 pm
Here is another thread from a couple of days ago that discusses this.

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php/topic,62115.0.html

Still all pertinent. Got a smell to it like a port-a-potty. You know something doesn't quite smell right, but you can't seem to locate where its coming from as the smell is all around you.
A loyal and proud Hogville Hog since 07-01-2003 "pushing" our hogs: And a loyal Razorback fan since 1954.

mtpockets

Sounds like this is one way to replace the tarps without all the negative backlash.

PigPusher

Quote from: Fresh Legs on June 22, 2006, 02:00:47 pm
Quote from: mtpockets on June 22, 2006, 01:37:45 pm
Sounds like this is one way to replace the tarps without all the negative backlash.

Pass the blame to the NCAA.

Why do you say that? If has already been mentioned there is no wordage in the NCAA rules that directly deals with this subject.  Just a matter of interpretation we're told.
A loyal and proud Hogville Hog since 07-01-2003 "pushing" our hogs: And a loyal Razorback fan since 1954.

ClubChubby

I wonder if any other sec schools are doing it anyway?

The press is going along with it so they can hang at the countryclub all summer playing golf, drinking beer, and snorting viagra.

Except for mike, of course.

piglett06

Quote from: ClubChubby on June 22, 2006, 02:40:29 pm
I wonder if any other sec schools are doing it anyway?

The press is going along with it so they can hang at the countryclub all summer playing golf, drinking beer, and snorting viagra.

Except for mike, of course.

:)

 

HOGLUVIN

Quote from: ClubChubby on June 22, 2006, 02:40:29 pm
I wonder if any other sec schools are doing it anyway?

The press is going along with it so they can hang at the countryclub all summer playing golf, drinking beer, and snorting viagra.

Except for mike, of course.

You dont snort Viagra do you?


Wooisme

Quote from: jreaganhog on June 22, 2006, 12:53:30 pm
"It used to be much easier to keep up with summer workouts but a new interpretation of an NCAA rule has made the athletic department cautious about allowing any scrutiny of the throwing and catching that goes on several days a week on the UA practice fields."  Rick Schaffer

Okay, I have a question based on this statement that in years past would never have graced the dull blade that is my thought process due to at least a modicum of trust in the press.  However, it has become evident to me that many in the press have chosen to value their access to the program's ever decreasing inside information (I'm a member of both pay boards but probably not for long) over forthrightness with the fans concerning any negative goings on with the program. 

Admittedly, the media has a tight and difficult rope to walk - especially in Arkansas - but imo they have neglected the other half (great unwashed?) of that delicate balance to the point of many, including myself, becoming highly cynical of many things written and said.  Supply/Demand breaks down when what's being supplied fails to satisfy the demand and the supplier repeatedly insists that he is supplying what you need and what you need is really what you should want.

In other words, don't pee on my leg, tell me is raining and then expect me to be a jolly hog fan.  (And for the record, I've spoken to enough people who should know "things" to sufficiently believe, to my own satisfaction, that the warm, wet liquid on my leg has a tint of yellow.)

Now, on to the cynicism of the day...who's "new interpretation of an NCAA rule" has made the athletic dept cautious?  Did the NCAA issue a clarifying reg. or policy statement?  Are other schools impacted by this development as well? 

Bottom line...what entity is the origin of the "new interpretation?" 


Plus ONE to ya, "ThereYouGoAgainHawg" (JReaganHog)!

Is it your habit to hit the nail in the head so perfectly?  Thanks.  :razorback:




HDN: DID LESS with MORE than any coach in Razorback History.

Hawgon

Quote from: jreaganhog on June 22, 2006, 12:53:30 pm
"It used to be much easier to keep up with summer workouts but a new interpretation of an NCAA rule has made the athletic department cautious about allowing any scrutiny of the throwing and catching that goes on several days a week on the UA practice fields."  Rick Schaffer

Okay, I have a question based on this statement that in years past would never have graced the dull blade that is my thought process due to at least a modicum of trust in the press.  However, it has become evident to me that many in the press have chosen to value their access to the program's ever decreasing inside information (I'm a member of both pay boards but probably not for long) over forthrightness with the fans concerning any negative goings on with the program. 

Admittedly, the media has a tight and difficult rope to walk - especially in Arkansas - but imo they have neglected the other half (great unwashed?) of that delicate balance to the point of many, including myself, becoming highly cynical of many things written and said.  Supply/Demand breaks down when what's being supplied fails to satisfy the demand and the supplier repeatedly insists that he is supplying what you need and what you need is really what you should want.

In other words, don't pee on my leg, tell me is raining and then expect me to be a jolly hog fan.  (And for the record, I've spoken to enough people who should know "things" to sufficiently believe, to my own satisfaction, that the warm, wet liquid on my leg has a tint of yellow.)

Now, on to the cynicism of the day...who's "new interpretation of an NCAA rule" has made the athletic dept cautious?  Did the NCAA issue a clarifying reg. or policy statement?  Are other schools impacted by this development as well? 

Bottom line...what entity is the origin of the "new interpretation?" 

I said the same thing several weeks ago and go lots of negative karma for my trouble. 

I'll add more fuel to the fire.  The new concern over the NCAA coincides with "no HDN bashing policy" on this board.  They happened within a few days of each other.  It would seem that there is a concerted effort to control all information from the Hill and that there is considerable pressure being brought to bear to limit dissent.  This message board was causing some in the media to catch a little heat because it was associated with them.  Despite assurances to the contrary, one has to wonder if all of this isn't interconnected a little bit.