A win for the good guys and doing things the right way?

[PORKULATOR]

Was this that kind of win. Was this a win for doing things the right way and building great men or was it just a win for a football team?

[factchecker]

Wait.... I thought you had to be a hard ass who hates and shits on his players like Saban.  I thought you couldn't treat these kids like family.  You had to process them, pull there schollies on signing day, or ship them off to UNLV..... unless they are a starter.

Thank god for Dabo.  Nice to see good guys finally win.

[darkstar]

It was a damn good game no matter which way you want to see it.

[rtr]

I like Dabo Swinney but there is a lot of fail in this thread.

[factchecker]

I like Dabo Swinney but there is a lot of fail in this thread.

Saban failed tonight and I'm [CENSORED] happy.  He should have treated his players better.  I hope Byers gets to avoid being Philon'd.

[lefty08]

Yay, now Saban won't retire!



Yay

[ErieHog]

Dabo is Saban's successor when he retires.

Ugh.

[311Hog]

this was a win for idiot proof 7 on 7 football.  It was a great game but it pained me to watch it.  99% of the time Clemson was in empty set 5 wide with pick play after pick play.  Or the 1 second drop back chuck it up and let a giant receiver jump over and through the DB.

I didn't care who won the game but I just don't see how people expect defense to be played when the offense is allowed to do the things that were done in this game.

[ErieHog]

this was a win for idiot proof 7 on 7 football.  It was a great game but it pained me to watch it.  99% of the time Clemson was in empty set 5 wide with pick play after pick play.  Or the 1 second drop back chuck it up and let a giant receiver jump over and through the DB.

I didn't care who won the game but I just don't see how people expect defense to be played when the offense is allowed to do the things that were done in this game.

This is football.   It is never going back.   

[PORKULATOR]

I like Dabo Swinney but there is a lot of fail in this thread.

your the 3rd poster and I, as the initial post asked 2 questions... a lot of fail on this thread... really
Do subscribe to Acorn Brain Weekly or are you just they're poster boy?

[lefty08]

this was a win for idiot proof 7 on 7 football.  It was a great game but it pained me to watch it.  99% of the time Clemson was in empty set 5 wide with pick play after pick play.  Or the 1 second drop back chuck it up and let a giant receiver jump over and through the DB.

I didn't care who won the game but I just don't see how people expect defense to be played when the offense is allowed to do the things that were done in this game.

Sounds like Harley bob

[311Hog]

This is football.   It is never going back.   

that isn't football.  Might as well take the pads off and get rid of the lines.  I mean soon as I heard Big 12 officials I knew it would be offensive leaning calls. this meant no holding, no offensive PI, etc.

[rtr]

Dabo is Saban's successor when he retires.

Ugh.

He would be making a mistake, to take the Bama job if it come available. 

[Hogs958]

It was a win. That's it. Both teams recruit well. Nick has 5 NC's. I am happy for Dabo, but the Bama/Saban hate is stupid.

[ErieHog]

that isn't football.  Might as well take the pads off and get rid of the lines.  I mean soon as I heard Big 12 officials I knew it would be offensive leaning calls. this meant no holding, no offensive PI, etc.

You may not like it, but it is what the game is, and will be, particularly with the emphasis on removing contact from the game.

[PORKULATOR]

I like Dabo Swinney but there is a lot of fail in this thread.

623rd... what a zinger... so poignant.

[ErieHog]

He would be making a mistake, to take the Bama job if it come available. 

He's given them the title he said he 'owed Clemson'--  I don't know if its a mistake or not, but it is a very real prospect, made even more likely by tonight.

[tophawg19]

the push off's and pick plays kills defense . i saw several hits that were targeting as well. poor officiating in the game

[rtr]

your the 3rd poster and I, as the initial post asked 2 questions... a lot of fail on this thread... really
Do subscribe to Acorn Brain Weekly or are you just they're poster boy?

Why don't you go undercover and investigate both programs and determine who does it right.  Two great football teams are what I saw.  I would think we would have learned our lesson about beating our chests about being "uncommon" after what transpired in Charlotte.

[311Hog]

what is meant by "doing things the right way"?  you mean pointing to sky after every play?

[Atlhogfan1]

this was a win for idiot proof 7 on 7 football.  It was a great game but it pained me to watch it.  99% of the time Clemson was in empty set 5 wide with pick play after pick play.  Or the 1 second drop back chuck it up and let a giant receiver jump over and through the DB.

I didn't care who won the game but I just don't see how people expect defense to be played when the offense is allowed to do the things that were done in this game.

Rules emphasis coming. Don't know why college refs need it but they do

[hobhog]

Nowhere near as dumb as the Bama/Saban love by Razorback fans.  We play those shitheads every year.  Frank---em.

Why so angry bro? You had no dog in the hunt....jeez. Leave Hog fans alone for a while.

[Hogs958]

Nowhere near as dumb as the Bama/Saban love by Razorback fans.  We play those shitheads every year.  Frank---em.

It's not love. It's respect, and that's ok.

He's won 5 NC's...he's top 3 best all time. Just give him credit where credit is due.

[ChicoHog]

I agree with the poster who said they were using illegal plays. I wish they had the official in the booth comment on those pick plays instead of just the plays that were reviewed.  It happened to Notre dame against FSU 2 years ago when the irish scored a TD late in the game to win it but the official called a pick and it nullified the TD.  Very similar to the first Clemson TD pick play. 

having said all that I think Bama gave up on the run way too early.  Harris did not get enough carries.

And I will take Saban over Swinney any day as a coach although Swinney is just about as good a recruiter. 

[factchecker]

It's not love. It's respect, and that's ok.

He's won 5 NC's...he's top 3 best all time. Just give him credit where credit is due.

Nah.  I don't like the vertically challenged.

[ErieHog]

It's not love. It's respect, and that's ok.

He's won 5 NC's...he's top 3 best all time. Just give him credit where credit is due.

Find some of the threads about how that guy with 5 titles can't coach.

It'd be funny, if they weren't the same fans who can't get over us having any struggle whatsoever.  If we hired Saban and he had an Alabama like run, they'd call for him to get fired, because he 'can't coach'.

[lefty08]

I agree with the poster who said they were using illegal plays. I wish they had the official in the booth comment on those pick plays instead of just the plays that were reviewed.  It happened to Notre dame against FSU 2 years ago when the irish scored a TD late in the game to win it but the official called a pick and it nullified the TD.  Very similar to the first Clemson TD pick play. 

having said all that I think Bama gave up on the run way too early.  Harris did not get enough carries.

And I will take Saban over Swinney any day as a coach although Swinney is just about as good a recruiter.

It's much harder to win one at clemson, than 3 at bama

[lefty08]

Find some of the threads about how that guy with 5 titles can't coach.

It'd be funny, if they weren't the same fans who can't get over us having any struggle whatsoever.  If we hired Saban and he had an Alabama like run, they'd call for him to get fired, because he 'can't coach'.

He better win one I  the first 3 years for sure haha

[PORKULATOR]

Why don't you go undercover and investigate both programs and determine who does it right.  Two great football teams are what I saw.  I would think we would have learned our lesson about beating our chests about being "uncommon" after what transpired in Charlotte.

why don't you admit to asinine pessimism and be "uncommon" for your previous "a lot of Fail"  failure of a quote.

[hawginbigd1]

Dabo is Saban's successor when he retires.

Ugh.

He better get a better deal than BB, whoever takes over for him is there 3 years Max!

[rtr]

why don't you admit to asinine pessimism and be "uncommon" for your previous "a lot of Fail"  failure of a quote.

No, I think my post is well beyond your comprehension.

[Hogs958]

Nah.  I don't like the vertically challenged.

https://youtu.be/7GBpGrhf2gs

[PORKULATOR]

what is meant by "doing things the right way"?  you mean pointing to sky after every play?

you tell me... the talking heads say this about them and Dabo the same way some say it about us and CBS. though they're slightly more successful.  Lol

[factchecker]

you tell me... the talking heads say this about them and Dabo the same way some say it about us and CBS. though they're slightly more successful.  Lol

slightly 

Dabo is a good guy.  He treats his players well..... let's them have fun.   They are putting a slide in their football operations center.

[PORKULATOR]

No, I think my post is well beyond your comprehension.

You couldn't out think me with a super computer,  Einstein,  an abacus, and a paid off judges panel. You start to far in the hole.
Comprehend that?

[rtr]

You couldn't out think me with a super computer,  Einstein,  an abacus, and a paid off judges panel. You start to far in the hole.
Comprendè?

As you wish.  Now goodnight.

[upperdeck_hawg]

this was a win for idiot proof 7 on 7 football.  It was a great game but it pained me to watch it.  99% of the time Clemson was in empty set 5 wide with pick play after pick play.  Or the 1 second drop back chuck it up and let a giant receiver jump over and through the DB.

I didn't care who won the game but I just don't see how people expect defense to be played when the offense is allowed to do the things that were done in this game.

Bring back Ken Hatfield and let's implement the wishbone

[PORKULATOR]

G'night!

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/818692632234835969

[hoglady]

that isn't football.  Might as well take the pads off and get rid of the lines.  I mean soon as I heard Big 12 officials I knew it would be offensive leaning calls. this meant no holding, no offensive PI, etc.

Those pick plays would have for sure been called with a different crew.
Those were called on offenses a number of times during the bowls - couldn't believe it was never called tonight.

[IMABIELEMA]

Dabo is Saban's successor when he retires.

Ugh.

Doubt it

[Atlhogfan1]

https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/818692632234835969

I used to like Clemson going back to Ford.  Good for them they got another Ch


Now I hope they go away

Annoying Offense and  Punter. 

[ErieHog]

Doubt it

Deep Bama ties, gave Clemson all that he has committed to give them-- unless they fall off the table, or Saban goes another 5+ years, it'll be Dabo.

[Hawg Life]

Dabo is Saban's successor when he retires.

Ugh.

That's Bama bull.. he's not going to leave Clemson. Why would he want to constantly be compared to Saban?

[hobhog]

https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/818692632234835969

? Ewww......

[lasthog]

this was a win for idiot proof 7 on 7 football.  It was a great game but it pained me to watch it.  99% of the time Clemson was in empty set 5 wide with pick play after pick play.  Or the 1 second drop back chuck it up and let a giant receiver jump over and through the DB.

I didn't care who won the game but I just don't see how people expect defense to be played when the offense is allowed to do the things that were done in this game.

I agree with you entirely.

I don't watch much college ball other than Razorbacks or some other SEC games, but I have never witnessed receivers running rubs and picks with hard contact like Clemson was doing tonight, with total impunity.

Is this the norm today?

[Atlhogfan1]

That's Bama bull.. he's not going to leave Clemson. Why would he want to constantly be compared to Saban?

From Al. Played at Bama.  Maybe he won't but not out of the question

[ErieHog]

That's Bama bull.. he's not going to leave Clemson. Why would he want to constantly be compared to Saban?

Its easier to win multiple titles.  Like it or not, Alabama is still the better program-- and when Momma calls, then you just have to come running.

He can't ruin his Clemson legacy, and can step into a football factory that dwarfs Clemson.   It'll be a risk- following a legend always is-- but he'll do it.

[lasthog]

https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/818692632234835969

I just started pulling for Bama (after wiping away the tears).

[Atlhogfan1]

I agree with you entirely.

I don't watch much college ball other than Razorbacks or some other SEC games, but I have never witnessed receivers running rubs and picks with hard contact like Clemson was doing tonight, with total impunity.

Is this the norm today?

College sometimes.  Depends on crew. This is like the illegal oline downfield these spread offenses exploited. 

LK has run them at Bama. 

Hopefully this will get cleaned up and spread offense will have to find something else