If we lose sat to State what does that tell us about our program

[Tweeter]

NM

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I know what starting threads like this tells us about our fans.

[popcornhog]

NM

That we aren't great against mobile QB's and teams that have decent running games.
But we already knew that.

How on earth do you think one game says much positive or negative about where a program is? Utter poppycock.

[longpig]

That on 11/19/2016 State scored more points than we did. 

They're talented and Cousin Eddie knows how to get a team rolling.  Losing to state would be nothing to be embarassed about.

[jjdlc]

That we are a very flawed team with gaping holes on defense this season. 

[Prestworthy]

That we aren't great against mobile QB's and teams that have decent running games.
But we already knew that.

How on earth do you think one game says much positive or negative about where a program is? Utter poppycock.

Or teams that have decent pass games.  Or teams that have decent special teams. 

One game can say a lot, but 10 games says more.

[DiamondHogFan]

We lost to a team that was favored on their home field.  A team that we would have beat a month or so ago.  Now they have some confidence and are playing well, when the opposite seems to be true for the Hogs.

I still have faith in this team.  I don't think we lose Saturday, but I don't think it will be easy to win either.

[Oklahawg]

Looks like the thread is complete. Good answers, fellers.

[popcornhog]

Or teams that have decent pass games.  Or teams that have decent special teams. 

One game can say a lot, but 10 games says more.

One game says nothing. 10 in the aggregate, do.

Our pass D isn't horrible, not sure where you're coming from there. Our run D is historically bad. Our QB play has been surprisingly good. Pass protection garbage. Run game pretty good.

These are things we know from 10 games.

[hogcard1964]

If we drop either of these last two games, which have been penciled in as wins throughout this season, it will confirm what we've known and suspected about Beilema over the past three years.

For the record, I think a lot of people here are understandably paranoid about these two games when they shouldn't be.  These will not be that close.  These are not good football teams.

[thefisher]

If we lose sat to State what does that tell us about our program

That it's "fan base" likes to set out a good troll line on Hogville.

That's about it.

[VirginiaHog]

NM

Tweeter, let me ask you. If we win, what would that say?

[Lake City Hog]

I think that it says something that a 4-6 team is favored to beat us.

[hogcard1964]

I think that it says something that a 4-6 team is favored to beat us.

They're not.  Someone had it as a "pick em" and another line had us favored by 1- 1 1/2.

[Piggfoot]

If we drop either of these last two games, which have been penciled in as wins throughout this season, it will confirm what we've known and suspected about Beilema over the past three years.

For the record, I think a lot of people here are understandably paranoid about these two games when they shouldn't be.  These will not be that close.  These are not good football teams.

What have we known and suspected about Bielema?

[Razorod]

If we drop either of these last two games, which have been penciled in as wins throughout this season, it will confirm what we've known and suspected about Beilema over the past three years.

For the record, I think a lot of people here are understandably paranoid about these two games when they shouldn't be.  These will not be that close.  These are not good football teams.

I agree with your last two statements.

[code red]

Tells us to make plans for Birmingham.

[code red]

They're not.  Someone had it as a "pick em" and another line had us favored by 1- 1 1/2.

Oh well heck its a gimme......NO they are gonna scrap and cut the head off the run.  It will be close.

[hogcard1964]

What have we known and suspected about Bielema?

What do you now know about him?

[Biggus Piggus]

Losing to Mississippi State would tell me that they're the team that beat Texas A&M and not the team that lost 51-3 to Alabama and 21-20 to South Alabama.

It would tell me that Arkansas is the team that was wiped out by Auburn and LSU, not the team that beat Ole Miss and Florida.

It would tell me that the players and coaches found absolutely no solution to the run-pass-QB problem that has plagued them for so long.

It would tell me that Austin Allen lost his mojo, and the Razorbacks will have a serious QB competition in the spring.

[DeltaBoy]

NM

poor recruiting and too many recruiting BUSTS!

[Torqued pork]

It will tell us to set the alarm on the Bielema rebuild clock back another year or two.

[hogcard1964]

It will tell us to set the alarm on the Bielema rebuild clock back another year or two.

Give him at the very least until 2032.   

[Torqued pork]

Give him at the very least until 2032.   

Only if he keeps doing it the "right way".

[Smalltownhog95]

That we are still in the hunt to equal last year's win total with a worse team. Hopefully we will be able to improve the Oline and horrible defense next year.

[Prestworthy]

Losing to Mississippi State would tell me that they're the team that beat Texas A&M and not the team that lost 51-3 to Alabama and 21-20 to South Alabama.

It would tell me that Arkansas is the team that was wiped out by Auburn and LSU, not the team that beat Ole Miss and Florida.

It would tell me that the players and coaches found absolutely no solution to the run-pass-QB problem that has plagued them for so long.

It would tell me that Austin Allen lost his mojo, and the Razorbacks will have a serious QB competition in the spring.

Gotta be careful with that kind of talk around here.  It won't make you any friends.

[Pigsknuckles]

Give him at the very least until 2032.   

At least by then (assuming I make it that long) I will have a manned Mars launch to look forward to.

[Atlhogfan1]

Depends on how it happens.

A hard fought loss due to our defense vs the style of the Miss St offense and run/pass qb and I don't see how it is any different than today.  We know this team this season has that issue.  A hard fought loss with an obviously injured AA affecting the outcome again wouldn't tell us anything new. 

A bad loss while playing poorly, then we would need to start talking about more than the problems we have identified. 

[BroyledNutts]

It would tell me that Austin Allen lost his mojo, and the Razorbacks will have a serious QB competition in the spring.

I'm going to catch hell for this, but as long as there's an Allen on the staff and an Allen at QB, there's no QB competition - spring or otherwise...and unless he's injured to incapacitation, he'll be on the field.

Nothing against Austin either - he's played his rear off for 10 games, doing the best he can with what he has protecting him.

I've quietly been on the run/pass QB train for a millennium, but there is a serious cultural aversion to it in our program - it's like the ghost of Matt Jones just won't go into the frickin light already.

[Atlhogfan1]

I'm going to catch hell for this, but as long as there's an Allen on the staff and an Allen at QB, there's no QB competition - spring or otherwise...and unless he's injured to incapacitation, he'll be on the field.

Nothing against Austin either - he's played his rear off for 10 games, doing the best he can with what he has protecting him.

I've quietly been on the run/pass QB train for a millennium, but there is a serious cultural aversion to it in our program - it's like the ghost of Matt Jones just won't go into the frickin light already.

Well I'm not sure the depth chart has made for competition.

BA had Mitchell that first preseason.  After that, there was no competition to be had really.

AA has Storey and RT as non RS but from how AA has played, not sure that was a competition.  Especially given our oline issues. 

So I don't think that is fair to place this on nepotism.

Sounds like Kelley is the qb of the future.  Perhaps he could push AA in the offseason.  Maybe our competitors have enough film now to where they know how to defend AA.  It happens to rookie/first year NFL starters the longer they play.  I sure hope to hell the oline experiment with Fro and taking in Raulerson didn't end up in AA becoming gunshy. 

[HogMantheIntruder]

If we drop either of these last two games, which have been penciled in as wins throughout this season, it will confirm what we've known and suspected about Beilema over the past three years.

For the record, I think a lot of people here are understandably paranoid about these two games when they shouldn't be.  These will not be that close.  These are not good football teams.

I guess you and I have a different definition of "we".

[IntegrityHog]

It would tell me that Austin Allen lost his mojo, and the Razorbacks will have a serious QB competition in the spring.

Barring a career-ending injury or his death, Austin will be the starter all next year. CBB prefers to play only experiences guys.

[Little Lady Back]

Barring a career-ending injury or his death, Austin will be the starter all next year. CBB prefers to play only experiences guys.

True.

[12247]

That we have another loss this season, that is all.  It changes nothing else other than lowering the Bowl we might get.

[hogcard1964]

That we have another loss this season, that is all.  It changes nothing else other than lowering the Bowl we might get.

+1000

It's a low tier bowl anyway.

[cosmodrum]

It will tell us that we are 6-5.

[Sportster365]

That we're worst than our SEC media day predictions said we were.

[elksnort]

Gotta be careful with that kind of talk around here.  It won't make you any friends.

Primarily, because AA's struggles are mostly not his fault. Can you imagine our record without AA?

Our freakin offensive line needs to be able to block Mississippi State. It's that simple.

[WilsonHog]

It tell me some things about this team, but not necessarily about our program. They are not the same thing.

[buldozer]

The main thing it will tell us is that the kids are not motivated to play for some reason. And if BB cannot fix that problem he is going to lose the team.

[lutherheggs]

NM

That BB is NOT a Starboy.

[upperdeck_hawg]

It tells us that we're in the SEC West and that there are no gimmes especially on the road. It tells us that they have the talent to beat Texas A&M so it shouldn't come as a shock if that same talent could beat us.