It's finally hitting the fan in Oxford!!! SIAP

[HogMantheIntruder]

http://www.wcbi.com/local-news/breaking-ncaa-charges-ole-miss-annouced/

Let the free fall begin! 

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/736206668925566976

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/736209606863556612

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/736210000402513921

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/736214156232167426

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/736213455863177221

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/736216594397986816

They lose 9 Football scholarship over the next 3 years:  Only can sign 22.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/736209932349890561

[bkjbearcat]

I'll believe it when it finally happens. Some schools are that old cartoon villain that no matter how close the hero is to getting them slip away to cause havoc for another day. Old Miss is Cobra Commander. Just wait, their mask will shoot some gas out of it and the NCAA will have a dumb look on their face thinking I ALMOST GOT THEM!?!?!

[factchecker]

REMEMBER-  These penalties are self-imposed the NCAA has the ability to add more if they feel so.

[Vantage 8 dude]

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/736213455863177221

How appropriate. Get your tickets early to the "Slime Bowl" 'cause no doubt the demand will be tremendous.

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/736214156232167426

Level I: Severe breach of conduct

Violations that seriously undermine or threaten the integrity of the NCAA collegiate model as set forth in the Constitution and bylaws, including any violation that provides or is intended to provide a substantial or extensive recruiting, competitive or other advantage, or a substantial or extensive impermissible benefit.

[navyhog24]

[Hog Solo]

What is up with them self imposing a post season ban for the women's basketball team but the men's football are allowed to play? 

[BR]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/27/ole-miss-releases-notice-allegations-response/84969156/ 

There were 28 allegations levied against the school, and athletic director Ross Bjork and chancellor Jeffrey Vitter wrote that "we agree that a violation of NCAA rules occurred; however, for several of those allegations we do not agree on all of the facts. For five of those 27 violations, we believe the violation should be classified different," meaning as a lower level of violation.

There were two Level I violations for academic misconduct, two Level I violations for unethical conduct directed at individuals who were no longer university employees when the violation occurred, seven Level I violations for other misconduct or unethical conduct charges, four Level I violations of improper benefits from boosters and one Level I violation of head coach control in women's basketball.

There were also eight Level II violations and four Level III violations. Level I violations are the most serious, followed by Level II and then Level III.

The self-imposed penalties for football included a disassociation of an organization and four individuals for at least three years; additional rules education for the staff; recruiting suspension for two assistant coaches; a reduction of scholarships and initial grants-in-aid; reductions of recruiting evaluation opportunities, initial and unofficial visits; and a fine of $159,325.

Women's basketball self-imposed penalties included termination of staff members and head coach; postseason ban for 2012-13 academic year; reduction of scholarships; reduction of official visits, recruiting-person days and calls; and prohibition on signing of two year college transfers.

The track and field self-imposed penalties include a "mutually agreed upon resignation of head coach" Bryan O'Neal, additional rules educations for staff members and reduction of official visits and off-campus recruiting days.

There was also a "general" three-year probation.

The football program has appeared in front of the committee on infractions three times.

The committee gave Ole Miss a public reprimand and one year of probation on Oct. 27, 1959, after "a representative of the University's athletic interests solicited the attendance" of a recruit "with the offer and gift of financial aid and equivalent inducements," according to its report.

On Dec. 12, 1986, the committee issued Ole Miss television and postseason bans of one year and placed the program on probation for two years. Ole Miss was also limited to a maximum of 20 initial scholarships in 1987-88 and was allowed to have just eight full-time coaches recruit in 1987 and 1988, among other punishments, for multiple violations.

Ole Miss also received a one-year television ban and a two-year postseason ban and was placed on probation for four years in a case involving multiple violations announced Nov. 17, 1994. Other punishments included receiving a public reprimand, a reduction of 12 initial grants for the 1995-96 and 1996-97 seasons and a loss of 32 total official visits, among other things.

The women's basketball, men's track and field and women's track and field programs haven't had a case presented to the committee on infractions before.

The release comes after the school received the notice of allegations on Jan. 22. Everything would've been released last month, but a third party requested and was granted a 30-day delay, the only one permissible in the process, athletic director Ross Bjork said.

[ricepig]

Oh yes, the feces hitting the rotating oscillator.

[Mike Irwin]

You don't lose a few scholarships over eight major violations. This is serious stuff. Freeze's comments to Finebaum a few days ago is laughable in light of how serious this is.

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/736211866096173058



https://twitter.com/DanielPaulling/status/736214417944289280

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/DanMathewsATL/status/733267818146238466

Hugh Swaggart blatantly lied to recruits and their families assuring them that all the allegations were related to the previous coaching staff. 

[factchecker]

What is up with them self imposing a post season ban for the women's basketball team but the men's football are allowed to play?

Football = $$$$$

[southarkhog06]

My body is ready!!!!

[Hog Solo]

Football = $$$$$

Right, but if I were the NCAA I would get even more pi$$ed that they treated these two sports inequally.  I hope they bring the hammer.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/736211866096173058



https://twitter.com/DanielPaulling/status/736214417944289280

Please put everything on hold while we try to avoid discussing this under oath.

[factchecker]

NOA--- PDF version:

http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2016/05/Allegations-Redacted-5.26.15.pdf

[factchecker]

Right, but if I were the NCAA I would get even more pi$$ed that they treated these two sports inequally.  I hope they bring the hammer.

I agree.  It seems like it would be a Title IX violation to punish women's sports harsher than men's.

[azhog10]

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/736216594397986816

They lose 9 Football scholarship over the next 3 years:  Only can sign 22.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/736209932349890561

I've read that Ole Miss claimed they were taking away double digit scholarships from football.....how is 9 double digit? Oxford math?

[Seebs]

Baylor, now Ole Miss.  Our recruiting just jumped two spots. If not for Hodor's death this would be a monumental week.

[factchecker]

I've read that Ole Miss claimed they were taking away double digit scholarships from football.....how is 9 double digit? Oxford math?

I think they stated that they have already taken away 2 last year.   All I know is that the NCAA regularly adds more punishment than the self-imposed.   We will see. 

[online-with-swine]

Remember, this DOES NOT include Tunsil.  Furthermore, the new Tunsil information occurred while under investigation for the other allegations.  Ole Miss is in it deep.

[HogMantheIntruder]

You don't lose a few scholarships over eight major viloations. This is serious stuff. Freeze's comments to Finebaum a few days ago is laughable in light of how serious this is.

And this doesn't even include Tunsil's draft night confession. Glad to see you on here; I hope you're feeling better. How do you think this turns out?

[HogMantheIntruder]

I've read that Ole Miss claimed they were taking away double digit scholarships from football.....how is 9 double digit? Oxford math?

You have to use Common Core.

[Hog Solo]

Baylor, now Ole Miss.  Our recruiting just jumped two spots. If not for Hodor's death this would be a monumental week.

If only we could get a gif together of Hodor's final scene with Freeze's head instead.  Doesn't really make sense, but I would laugh.

[Wildhog]

Their self-imposed sanctions are laughable.  NCAA should hammer the Rebel Black Bears for essentially mocking them.

"Oh, we'll just sign 22/year for the next three years.  Still a top 15 class."

[Seebs]

Their self-imposed sanctions are laughable.  NCAA should hammer the Rebel Black Bears for essentially mocking them.

"Oh, we'll just sign 22/year for the next three years.  Still a top 15 class."

Only signing 22 players saves the boosters $300K - so I do not see this as a penalty

[dhizzle]

"Although a post‐season ban may be imposed in a Level I -- Mitigated case, the University believes a ban is unnecessary here based upon applicable precedent and because the most serious allegations occurred years ago, involving staff and student‐athletes long‐since separated from the University."

This is laughable. Well of course you believe you shouldn't be banned from post season play.

[stevec]

All of those violations should be thrown out.  They were sponsored by Jesus.

[Wildhog]

This has lack of institutional control written all over it, if the NCAA had a sack.

[mckinneyhog5]

Crappy state and crappy school...of course they pay players that go there.

[Pig in the Pokey]

I'll believe it when it finally happens. Some schools are that old cartoon villain that no matter how close the hero is to getting them slip away to cause havoc for another day. Old Miss is Cobra Commander. Just wait, their mask will shoot some gas out of it and the NCAA will have a dumb look on their face thinking I ALMOST GOT THEM!?!?!

why do people say this? It's like they just ignored USC, Ohio State, Tennessee, et al. You guys literally said the exact same darn about all those Blue Blood programs. If Ohio State got the hammer, Ole PISS certainly will. What makes you think anyone will want to protect them??

[Pig in the Pokey]

What is up with them self imposing a post season ban for the women's basketball team but the men's football are allowed to play?

Yeah, these 'punishments' are RIDICULOUS!!!! The NCAA should at the very least double them. * level 1 violations and they think 3 schollies and no post season ban will cover it!?!? LMFAO, wow. oh, HELL NO Ole Piss.

[ChitownHawg]

"Although a post‐season ban may be imposed in a Level I -- Mitigated case, the University believes a ban is unnecessary here based upon applicable precedent and because the most serious allegations occurred years ago, involving staff and student‐athletes long‐since separated from the University."

This is laughable. Well of course you believe you shouldn't be banned from post season play.

What do you expect their legal team to say? "Guilty as charged. Hang us from the highest tree!"

Now the laughable part will be if the NCAA agrees with them. 

[Pig in the Pokey]

You don't lose a few scholarships over eight major violations. This is serious stuff. Freeze's comments to Finebaum a few days ago is laughable in light of how serious this is.

I totally agree and can't imagine how Bucky Beaver still has a job. I guess it's time for the public uproar to begin and my twitter followers will be getting an earful.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Please put everything on hold while we try to avoid discussing this under oath.

ding ding ding

[Pig in the Pokey]

Baylor, now Ole Miss.  Our recruiting just jumped two spots. If not for Hodor's death this would be a monumental week.

we didn't actually see him die....

[dhizzle]

What do you expect their legal team to say? "Guilty as charged. Hang us from the highest tree!"

Now the laughable part will be if the NCAA agrees with them. 

I guess its the whole thing you know, investigating yourself. I just find it weird. 

[Pig in the Pokey]

Their self-imposed sanctions are laughable.  NCAA should hammer the Rebel Black Bears for essentially mocking them.

"Oh, we'll just sign 22/year for the next three years.  Still a top 15 class."

insane, huh? I mean, we voluntarily did that.(sign 22)

[Pig in the Pokey]

This has lack of institutional control written all over it, if the NCAA had a sack.

I JUST NOW understood why Mullen has stayed at Miss State. He knew this day would come and you have to believe that Moo St will take over the Magnolia state for a half decade at least now. Damn, those Ole Piss fans right when we lined up for 4th-and 25 were on top of the world. And now this. They fell as fast as the Hogs did in a certain April Fool's joke that wasn't a joke.

[Pig in the Pokey]

What do you expect their legal team to say? "Guilty as charged. Hang us from the highest tree!"

Now the laughable part will be if the NCAA agrees with them. 

I expect them to not slob their own buttons in the report...
"The University's cooperation with the NCAA throughout this process has been exemplary. In fact, the University self-reported or played a central role in discovering most of the violations.  When employees or student-athletes failed to live up to Ole Miss core values, the University took decisive action, including terminating or disciplining employees and imposing scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions. " just wow

[jjdlc]

Those self imposed punishments are a joke, much less than what other schools have self imposed for less.  In light of that, the NCAA may come down even harder to make an example of them.

[Pig in the Pokey]

You don't lose a few scholarships over eight major violations. This is serious stuff. Freeze's comments to Finebaum a few days ago is laughable in light of how serious this is.

Nine of the 13 allegations levied against the football program occurred under coach Hugh Freeze, including four Level I violations, two Level II violations and three Level III violations.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Former assistant coaches David Saunders and Chris Vaughn were also named in helping recruits obtain fraudulent ACT scores (Level I violation). Saunders and Vaughn also allegedly lied to or provided false information in investigation, while Saunders communicated with witnesses involved in the investigation after being told not to (Level I violations).

[PLHawg]

Realistically, the NCAA will probably add a couple of scholarships per year to the penalty, say 5 per year for three years.  Maybe a one year post-season ban tops.  Let's face it, the NCAA is an inept, feckless institutution that really no longer cares about reigning in programs.  I do believe that you will see Ole Miss's recruiting classes drop from top 5 just because of the overhang of this whole thing.  I could be wrong, the NCAA may be tired of being mocked and use Ole Miss as an example, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

9 scholarships over three years... yeah that will teach you. But seriously, what meaningful punishments are you guys self imposing?

Wait you're serious? And you want to count back some of those? Are you drunk?

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Realistically, the NCAA will probably add a couple of scholarships per year to the penalty, say 5 per year for three years.  Maybe a one year post-season ban tops.  Let's face it, the NCAA is an inept, feckless institutution that really no longer cares about reigning in programs.  I do believe that you will see Ole Miss's recruiting classes drop from top 5 just because of the overhang of this whole thing.  I could be wrong, the NCAA may be tired of being mocked and use Ole Miss as an example, but I'll believe it when I see it.

If they want to make an example Ole Miss and Baylor are good targets from their perspective. Currently high profile enough to get broad notice but not institutions that have been historically prominent or particularly high value in terms of revenue.

But like you, I don't expect much from the NCAA.