No Dallas/AT+T camp??

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/735153192372047872

[ricepig]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2016/may/24/arkansas-dallas-satellite-no-go/

[DeltaBoy]

That just SAD!

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

That sucks

[yraciv]

Sucks! Sure there are reasons, but don't have any idea why you would back out from that opportunity.

[lefty08]

Sucks! Sure there are reasons, but don't have any idea why you would back out from that opportunity.

I'm willing to say the Razorbacks didn't back out

[ricepig]

I'm willing to say the Razorbacks didn't back out

Ok, then who did?

[go hogues]

Sounds about right. Meanwhile, our SEC brethren are doing camps all over the friggin' country.

Some day, maybe we can get a clue in recruiting.

SMH

[ricepig]

Sounds about right. Meanwhile, our SEC brethren are doing camps all over the friggin' country.

Some day, maybe we can get a clue in recruiting.

SMH

Like who?

[STLhawg]

I'm willing to say the Razorbacks didn't back out

Texas A&M-Commerce backed out according to the article.  I wonder how much Texas A&M (and/or Texas) paid them to do that?

[bigdaddyhawg]

Sucks! Sure there are reasons, but don't have any idea why you would back out from that opportunity.

What I can't understand is why they'd leave such a key player such as yourself out of the loop -- unacceptable!!

[bigdaddyhawg]

Texas A&M-Commerce backed out according to the article.  I wonder how much Texas A&M (and/or Texas) paid them to do that?

Paid?  You don't think the right GOBN alum got on the phone and told them to kill that??

[Karma]

Paid?  You don't think the right GOBN alum got on the phone and told them to kill that??

If they did, I get it.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Sounds about right. Meanwhile, our SEC brethren are doing camps all over the friggin' country.

Some day, maybe we can get a clue in recruiting.

SMH

Duh.....I think they get it!! I honestly don't think they're going to miss too many opportunities in the future.

[lefty08]

It's called political pressure , gentlemen

[PorkRinds]

Sounds about right. Meanwhile, our SEC brethren are doing camps all over the friggin' country.

Some day, maybe we can get a clue in recruiting.

SMH

Someday maybe you can get a clue as well. We are doing a camp in Florida already.  Wouldn't be shocked if we did one in New Jersey as well.

[ricepig]

It's called political pressure , gentlemen

You didn't answer why you say we didn't pull out, when it's been stated by several reporters.

[Pig in the Pokey]

sigh. always the bridesmaid

[lefty08]

You didn't answer why you say we didn't pull out, when it's been stated by several reporters.

It's easier to say Arkansas pulled out than to say Texas money schools forced it. Stop being obtuse. There is only one reason Arkansas wouldn't hold a camp in dallas

[ricepig]

It's easier to say Arkansas pulled out than to say Texas money schools forced it. Stop being obtuse. There is only one reason Arkansas wouldn't hold a camp in dallas

Obtuse, or you freaking crazy, why would they allow OU and OSU, their conference foes, to have camps in Dallas? There are enough private D-3's to find a partner, much less JUCO's.

[lefty08]

Obtuse, or you freaking crazy, why would they allow OU and OSU, their conference foes, to have camps in Dallas? There are enough private D-3's to find a partner, much less JUCO's.

We know it was blocked the first time but you think this is different?  Oklahoma isn't in the sec.

[ricepig]

We know it was blocked the first time but you think this is different?  Oklahoma isn't in the sec.

So, aTm has blocked every college in Texas from joining with us, sure.....

[ricepig]

When Bielema comes out and says aTm blocked us, then I'll believe it. And if they did, you can count on him saying it.

[ricepig]

We know it was blocked the first time but you think this is different?  Oklahoma isn't in the sec.

You also said money schools, that means more than one, correct?

[Wildhog]

TAMU-Commerce was replaced with Abilene Christian as the host school.  Several reporters have said that Arkansas was the one that pulled out. 

[Wildhog]

When Bielema comes out and says aTm blocked us, then I'll believe it. And if they did, you can count on him saying it.

Haha, true. 

[STLhawg]

I would bet the A&M-Commerce partnership was cancelled because of politics.

[Wildhog]

So was ACU nixed, too? 

[STLhawg]

TAMU-Commerce was replaced with Abilene Christian as the host school.  Several reporters have said that Arkansas was the one that pulled out.

Isn't Abilene about in the middle of nowhere (and not that big)?  With it being so far from Dallas metro, it isn't likely to receive much if any media coverage in the Dallas area -- and thus the turnout would probably be lackluster. 

That said, to me it doesn't make sense that we would camp at AT&T stadium.   

[Wildhog]

Isn't Abilene about in the middle of nowhere (and not that big)?  With it being so far from Dallas metro, it isn't likely to receive much if any media coverage in the Dallas area -- and thus the turnout would probably be lackluster. 

That said, to me it doesn't make sense that we would camp at AT&T stadium.   

Are you asking why we'd want to hold a camp there?

[ricepig]

Isn't Abilene about in the middle of nowhere (and not that big)?  With it being so far from Dallas metro, it isn't likely to receive much if any media coverage in the Dallas area -- and thus the turnout would probably be lackluster. 

That said, to me it doesn't make sense that we would camp at AT&T stadium.   

They weren't coming to camp with Commerce, ACU, Mary Hardin, of Devry Institute, they were coming for us, and for Jerry's World.

[Atlhogfan1]

Not difficult to believe A&M would put pressure on Commerce to back away from this.  A&M and Texas shouldn't have concern for us recruiting in Texas.  They get most of who they want.  TCU, Baylor, TT and the out of state programs who recruit DFW should have a concern if we were to find something to help us.  But this seems to be getting overblown just as most everything we do related to the state of Texas. 

[ricepig]

Not difficult to believe A&M would put pressure on Commerce to back away from this.  A&M and Texas shouldn't have concern for us recruiting in Texas.  They get most of who they want.  TCU, Baylor, TT and the out of state programs who recruit DFW should have a concern if we were to find something to help us.  But this seems to be getting overblown just as most everything we do related to the state of Texas. 

The only reason it is getting "overblown" is because Bielema stressed what a feather in our cap it would be to have the only one in a pro stadium.

[justmakeit2thebcs]

A&M paid the guy on the grassy knoll back in '63 as well.

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

Sounds about right. Meanwhile, our SEC brethren are doing camps all over the friggin' country.

Some day, maybe we can get a clue in recruiting.

SMH

can't impede on the months of vacation for the coaches.

[factchecker]

can't impede on the months of vacation for the coaches.

https://twitter.com/CHbanderson/status/730152165419843584


https://twitter.com/CoachPartridge/status/725803029748940800



https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/690271847053590528

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/705827601885982720

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/719999199928918016

[Wildhog]

Love the FAU camp.  Meh on the "All-Arkansas" camp.

Need to have some in NOLA, Houston, Dallas, and St Louis, too.

[Wildhog]

Who's coaching the specialist camp?  Surely they're bringing in some actual kicking coaches.

[kibster]

Who's coaching the specialist camp?  Surely they're bringing in some actual kicking coaches.

Jamie Kohl.  At least that is what it says after every mention of the specialist camp.

[hawginbigd1]

I have been wondering, what the NCAA might think about the owner of such a fine establishment being a booster for said team, if that might not be flirting with some boundaries. I have no idea, but sounds like a possibility.

[factchecker]

Love the FAU camp.  Meh on the "All-Arkansas" camp.

Need to have some in NOLA, Houston, Dallas, and St Louis, too.

No doubt.  We need to camp in Texas.  I agree that St. Louis and NOLA are two other destinations we need to camp.

Tulane is the only school I know in Louisiana that is partnering with an outside program (AnM).  Of course that pissed off Les: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/les-miles-lsu-satellite-camp-tulane-texas-am-sec-football/1n5vcamee7vzc19dcz6bwsvqr2

I think the "All-Arkansas" camp is a good thing.  If Arkansas said no it would A) look bad on our part and B) leave an open slot for another P5 program (Oklahoma, Ohio State etc.) to step in and recruit. The Razorbacks being at the camp will bring out more kids and motivate them to try and get a scholarship.  At best we find a diamond in the rough, at worse our staff uses the camp to build relationships with local high school coaches and kids.

[Paul]

How about if we tie our series contract with teams like TCU, Texas, & Michigan with the stipulation they will host a camp?

[PorkSoda]

definitely strange that we pulled out, I would like to hear what the reasoning was.

though, it could be as simple as there being issues organizing it after the one school pulled out and another school stepped it.  they might have felt that 2 weeks isnt enough time to get everything ready for a big time camp and have it run smoothly.

[East TN HAWG]

To have a satellite camp, the host can actually be a High School.  If Arkansas wants the camp, they will simply go to the next school.  If Abilene backs out, we should just ask Trinity HS, Bishop HS, South Lake HS, Raleigh's old school, etc to host it.

[LZH]

I have been wondering, what the NCAA might think about the owner of such a fine establishment being a booster for said team, if that might not be flirting with some boundaries. I have no idea, but sounds like a possibility.

It can't be any more questionable than Nike pouring sugar all over Oregon all these years.

[STLhawg]

Are you asking why we'd want to hold a camp there?

No, I was thinking about the distance of the host (from Dallas) might have been a factor.  The more I think about it though it shouldn't really matter.  Perhaps the fact this is all going down just two weeks from the date of the camp is more the issue.

[STLhawg]

They weren't coming to camp with Commerce, ACU, Mary Hardin, of Devry Institute, they were coming for us, and for Jerry's World.

True.  Perhaps these schools are asking for "expenses" for hosting the camp (i.e. a handout) and we are balking at their asking price.  You would thinking they would be jumping at the chance of getting to host a camp at AT&T stadium!

[ricepig]

True.  Perhaps these schools are asking for "expenses" for hosting the camp (i.e. a handout) and we are balking at their asking price.  You would thinking they would be jumping at the chance of getting to host a camp at AT&T stadium!

Actually, the host schools were/are to receive the fees, we're just guest coaches.

[Mike_e]

Anybody know what the expected turnout was supposed to be?

It might be that we just weren't getting enough interest from high value prospects and decided to save face this year and put more behind next years effort.

[GolfnHog]

The distance from Abilene to ATT stadium 163 miles or 2.25 hours so I don't think the distance and school is the issue. From Commerce to ATT is about 85 miles taking the shortest route or 1.45 hours w/ traffic.

I suspect the conspiracy of schools in Texas getting in the ear of aTm-Commerce is the compelling reason it didn't happen.