Garth and others say Ark needs to go to the Big 12

[DeltaBoy]

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2016/may/11/garth-brooks-says-arkansas-would-make-sense-big-12/?f=sports

I wish Butch Davis and the rest of the folks would drop this mess !!! We are in the SEC and that where we need to stay.

[razorbacker3]

There probably won't even be a BIG 12 in the next few years.

[Razorbackers]

This is his worst idea since Chris Gaines

[DeltaBoy]

There probably won't even be a BIG 12 in the next few years.

It might not be and it they had treated us better back in the SWC days we might have never left.

[hoghiker]

It's a tired argument. Be like going off to college but going home to date high school girls. you can do it but why?

[phadedhawg]

As much sense as it makes it would be horrible to leave the SEC.  It is where big time college football is played.  We always struggle in our division but I'd rather be playing the big boys instead of Big 12 schools.  They have some decent teams and there would be plenty of dates to circle but not like the SEC.  Every week is a brawl. 

[Hogs33]

Does it make SOME sense, yes, geography wise and renewing old rivalries but I believe we have beat'n this dead horse before. We should stay in the SEC.

[Hogs33]

This is his worst idea since Chris Gaines

lol Nice!

[PorkRinds]

It would be great for the B12, but terrible for Arkansas.  The LHN and Texas have basically killed the B12.

[ricepig]

This is his worst idea since Chris Gaines

https://twitter.com/GeorgeSchroeder/status/730401612179480578

[DeltaBoy]

https://twitter.com/GeorgeSchroeder/status/730401612179480578

BOOM!!!

[Torqued pork]

I've read columns and blogs where the writer suggests the Big XII should go after Arkansas and LSU. They really have an inflated view of their conference.

[Inhogswetrust]

It might not be and it they had treated us better back in the SWC days we might have never left.

Ummm. We left for greener pastures. No more no less. Had nothing to do with how we were "treated".

[Inhogswetrust]

So an oklahomoan says we should go to the little 12 YET his school (oklahomo state) would do ANYTHING to get out of it.................Tell me again why he matters? He doesn't.

[DeltaBoy]

Ummm. We left for greener pastures. No more no less. Had nothing to do with how we were "treated".

Frank left for the Money and he was tired about us being shafted by the all Texas Zebra Crews.

[Inhogswetrust]

Does it make SOME sense, yes, geography wise and renewing old rivalries but I believe we have beat'n this dead horse before. We should stay in the SEC.

Geography wise we already play teams that borders Arkansas "right next door" with TAMU, LSU, Mizzou, Old Miss and Miss State as well as Tenner every once in a while. This geography crap belongs in the crapper.

[Hogarusa]

It's a tired argument. Be like going off to college but going home to date high school girls. you can do it but why?

Because you can actually score with the high school girls?

Money rules the world though, so obviously will never happen

[Inhogswetrust]

Frank left for the Money and he was tired about us being shafted by the all Texas Zebra Crews.

Really. Did you hear Frank say that? I don't remember him saying that. The money potential was maybe a factor but not officiating. It was because the SEC was the stronger more stable conference even back then with more upside for the future that Frank had the foresight to be able to see.

[Inhogswetrust]

Because you can actually score with the high school girls?

Money rules the world though, so obviously will never happen

If you couldn't score with college girls then you shouldn't have been in college............................

[Suidae Suis Scrofa]

If this happened I would drive up to Fayetteville to personally pack Jeff Long's bags for his move to a new job.

-phil

[Inhogswetrust]

If this happened I would drive up to Fayetteville to personally pack Jeff Long's bags for his move to a new job.

-phil

Amen! They could then kiss my season tickets and athletic donations goodbye. I am a Hog fan and Alum and would still donate to the academic side as always BUT I don't want to play or be affiliated with the little 12. They can go !@#$ themselves.

[Buff]

Garth's reasoning is that "they're right next door".  By that logic maybe LSU should join up as well.  And then they can go after Mississippi State because they'll be right next door too.

[Doug]

If this happened I would drive up to Fayetteville to personally pack Jeff Long's bags for his move to a new job.

Know what your statement tells me?

That you have absolutely NO clue about how conference changes work. None.

It's not the Athletic Directors that make the decisions to change conferences. Advise those in charge of making the decisions, sure. But not the one that makes that decision. Who holds that power?

The University System Administration President (Bobbitt) and the School's Chancellor (Steinmetz).

By all means, please continue your seething hatred of that "yankee", Jeff Long.

[rzrbackramsfan]

If this happened I would drive up to Fayetteville to personally pack Jeff Long's bags for his move to a new job.

-phil

Hahaha.

Yea, we'd never ever ever win a national championship in the big 12.  Teams from the big 12 can occasionally make it into the playoffs but you know they're just gonna get smacked.  At least if we ever did somehow make it to the playoffs we'd have a chance coming from the sec.  I'd rather go acc (our basketball program would probably take off) of the big ten (they are becoming formidable in football)

[Hogs run wild]

Frank left for the Money and he was tired about us being shafted by the all Texas Zebra Crews.

That last year we were in the SWC, seems we got shafted every game. TCU game really stands out.

[Hogs33]

Geography wise we already paly teams that borders arkansas with TAMU, LSU, Mizzou, Old Miss and Miss State as well as Tenner every once in a while. This geography crap belongs in the crapper.

I agree! but I also see the Big 12 side too.

[GuvHog]

Frank left for the Money and he was tired about us being shafted by the all Texas Zebra Crews.

Hammer meat nail. +1

[GuvHog]

Really. Did you hear Frank say that? I don't remember him saying that. The money potential was maybe a factor but not officiating. It was because the SEC was the stronger more stable conference even back then with more upside for the future that Frank had the foresight to be able to see.

Frank couldn't publicly say that due to the gag rule on discussing officiating. The money was the main reason but the biased Texas officiating was part of it too.

[Inhogswetrust]

Know what your statement tells me?

That you have absolutely NO clue about how conference changes work. None.

It's not the Athletic Directors that make the decisions to change conferences. Advise those in charge of making the decisions, sure. But not the one that makes that decision. Who holds that power?

The University System Administration President (Bobbitt) and the School's Chancellor (Steinmetz).

By all means, please continue your seething hatred of that "yankee", Jeff Long.

I'm thinking his post was more along the line of finding someone there to take his frustrations out on since he don't like the idea.

[Hogarusa]

If you couldn't score with college girls then you shouldn't have been in college............................

Some folks arent as smooth and successful at recruiting as others.  Have to get the 2-3 stars instead of the 5 stars. 

If Hogs had 1 SEC title over the past 5-10 seasons in football, this would be a non discussion.  Hog fans also wouldnt need to explain to anyone if moving to the Big 12 resulted in a conference title in the first 5 years.  1) money 2) winning

[Inhogswetrust]

Frank couldn't publicly say that due to the gag rule on discussing officiating. The money was the main reason but the biased Texas officiating was part of it too.

The tejas officiating thing had been resolved prior to any SEC move IIRC. Either way that would have been a VERY minuscule issue even if it truly was an issue. IF officiating was so bad there then why do people here complain so vehemently about SEC refs.................

[Hogfan1660]

This is his worst idea since Chris Gaines

Or getting married to that Lard A$$ Trisha Yearwood!!

[Inhogswetrust]

I agree! but I also see the Big 12 side too.

The only ones that care about the little 12 is.......................the little 12. Heck even the ACC has surpassed them in a lot of peoples minds.

[lahawg1]

We received ~$31M from the SEC network last year, remind me what the LHN shared with the other members of their conference. 

[ricepig]

We received ~$31M from the SEC network last year, remind me what the LHN shared with the other members of their conference. 

We received $31m from the conference.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12974161/southeastern-conference-distribute-record-435m-revenue-member-schools

[King Kong]

If the Big 12 guarantees to pay us whatever the SEC teams get each season lets do it.

[DeltaBoy]

The tejas officiating thing had been resolved prior to any SEC move IIRC. Either way that would have been a VERY minuscule issue even if it truly was an issue. IF officiating was so bad there then why do people here complain so vehemently about SEC refs.................

We did not have Hogville to voice our dispeasure about the Zebras in the SWC but I remember Oville talking about it.

[alohawg]

Frank left for the Money and he was tired about us being shafted by the all Texas Zebra Crews.

True, the money is better, but the shaft remains, just in a different state.

[DeltaBoy]

True, the money is better, but the shaft remains, just in a different state.

Yep it happens against FLA and I feel a few no calls against BAMA that helped them. But I been pretty happy with the SEC boys except for Curles .

[ricepig]

I'll just leave this here......

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/730484424039501825

[DeltaBoy]

I'll just leave this here......

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/730484424039501825

OUCH and he was here almost 10 as it was 

[regi]

Texas arrogance killed the SW C, killed the original Big12, now it is killing the current ghetto Big12. I see the only real change being OU, after 20 years, finally growing tired of Texas' crap, and their AD and some other power brokers grasping qt life lines.

[regi]

I'll just leave this here......

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/730484424039501825

Well most certainly the UofA and the Southern State of Arkansas, should be interested in the self preservation of a 6-6 Coach. Unreal.

[lstewart]

I completely understand why Big 12 members, fans, and media would mention the hogs as a program to target for expansion. We have a good bit of history with most of their members, and still have some old fires left over from the SWC days. That said, it makes no financial sense for us to consider moving, unless we were sure we would make at least as much annual revenue for all the hog athletic programs. I don't know what the Big 12 awards to their members, but I would bet it is not even in the ballpark of what we collect now. The Big 12 has some big name teams, so football and basketball would still be good. We would probably win a few more football games, maybe a few less basketball games. Across the board athletics, it would probably be fine, assuming the money was there. But... the money is not there.

[RME]

Are you guys more interested in receiving more money or winning more football games?

I'm not advocating a jump to the Big 12 by any means, but historically Arkansas has struggled in the West in years when Alabama and LSU are at the top of their game. That's not an opinion, that's not pessimism, that's a fact.

I'm an Arkansas fan, not an SEC fan. Whatever gives Arkansas the best chance at reaching conference championship games and the playoff, then that's what I'd prefer. Yeah, it's nice to be able to say you play against the best week in and week out. But I'd rather be able to say we have a legitimate shot at winning our conference and making the playoff any given year.

That's just me though. I'm more interested in winning games than receiving payouts.

[Vantage 8 dude]

My only real question is: And we should care about Garth's opinion concerning the Hogs and the Big 12 how

[HAWG MAFIA]

talk to another board. Hogs are in the SEC for good.

[dsgreen]

taking too much b12 can cause nerve damage

[Rison Razor Hog]

It would be great for the B12, but terrible for Arkansas.  The LHN and Texas have basically killed the B12.

This^^^^ times a 1000!

[Hogs33]

My only real question is: And we should care about Garth's opinion concerning the Hogs and the Big 12 how

You could ask the same thing about anyone who posts here ole Hogville, but yet people still read and listen.