If Iowa State

[Hoggie17]

Beats TCU this weekend, Matt Campbell moves up to the top 3 of  my wish list.

[ricepig]

You got an extra $6m or more laying around for his buyout?

[Hoggie17]

You got an extra $6m or more laying around for his buyout?

I guess we better keep CBB, we can't afford anyone that can win.

[ricepig]

I guess we better keep CBB, we can't afford anyone that can win.

Didn't say that, just that it will take a tremendous amount of money to hire some of these coaches with large buyouts should they choose to leave their school. If you don't think that enters into the conversation heavily, you're just fooling yourself.

[smb]

Now boys be nice!

[The_Iceman]

Good coach. But he will have better offers than Arkansas.

[Sho Nuff]

Good coach. But he will have better offers than Arkansas.

This is my concern as well.  Also, not sure some guys want to come to the SEC.  unless they just love a challenge, why leave a place where you play several cupcakes a year to go to a place where you are facing absolute killers every week?

[Hoggie17]

You got an extra $6m or more laying around for his buyout?

http://www.businessinsider.com/schools-most-revenue-college-sports-2016-10/#18-minnesota--1112-million-8
Well there you have our AD is #16 but can't afford a winning football coach.

[Ham Ham Pigelow]

Beats TCU this weekend, Matt Campbell moves up to the top 3 of  my wish list.

But moves into the top 3 for administrations at UCLA, Tennessee, Auburn (if necessary), Nebraska

[LRRandy]

This is my concern as well.  Also, not sure some guys want to come to the SEC.  unless they just love a challenge, why leave a place where you play several cupcakes a year to go to a place where you are facing absolute killers Alabama every week?once a season

fixed it for you. Nobody but Alabama scares anyone anymore. That ship has sailed.

[lilRockNDubb]

Didn't say that, just that it will take a tremendous amount of money to hire some of these coaches with large buyouts should they choose to leave their school. If you don't think that enters into the conversation heavily, you're just fooling yourself.

CBB's approx 5.9 mil buyout + CMC approx 6 mil buyout + CMC salary to leave Iowa State at 3+ mil. Not to mention buyouts for coordinators and position coaches. That would roughly be 16-17 mil for just the 1st year of Campbell coming here.

[Hoggie17]

fixed it for you. Nobody but Alabama scares anyone anymore. That ship has sailed.

SEC was in its prime 1998 until 2014.

We take in 114.2 million a year which is #16 of all college AD's in the US. After all expenses how much is left?  Enough to pay for a winning HC?  If not just keep big boy, but reduce his salary for poor performance.

[Redhogs]

Didn't say that, just that it will take a tremendous amount of money to hire some of these coaches with large buyouts should they choose to leave their school. If you don't think that enters into the conversation heavily, you're just fooling yourself.

I'll take Norvell behind door #2 for his $900,000 buyout.

[Hoggie17]

I'll take Norvell behind door #2 for his $900,000 buyout.

Red hogs he is one of 3 coaches that I think would stay at Arkansas and is something to consider.

[ur]

Yes, Norvell is the best deal financially between Campbell, Brohm, Norvell. Plus I think he would come no matter the situation of the AD.

[Drop the Mike]

You got an extra $6m or more laying around for his buyout?

It's actually 9.4 mil plus a couple million more for his assistants which he would bring with him

[ur]

It's actually 9.4 mil plus a couple million more for his assistants which he would bring with him

6.2 + .2 = $6.4 mill total  I posted the contract in another thread. But that is still to high for our AD I'm sure.

[Lady Razorback]

CBB's approx 5.9 mil buyout + CMC approx 6 mil buyout + CMC salary to leave Iowa State at 3+ mil. Not to mention buyouts for coordinators and position coaches. That would roughly be 16-17 mil for just the 1st year of Campbell coming here.

Not a Campbell fan, however we are not "li'l ole Arkansas". 

A couple of weeks ago I checked out the Form 990 for the Razorback Foundation.  The most recent filing was for 2015.  In that filing there was approx. $7 million in "income" with $52 million in net assets.  Net assets includes all assets minus all liabilities, so represents assets available.  I have no way of knowing what 2016 is but $52 million available (2015) vs. coaching change costs tells me that we can afford what we want. 

Not only is Norvell a much more feasible financial choice, he is my choice.  If you have not had chance to see Memphis v. Houston game, you should check it out.  Was my favorite football game of the year, or maybe for 6 years. 

[Paul]

Not a Campbell fan, however we are not "li'l ole Arkansas". 

A couple of weeks ago I checked out the Form 990 for the Razorback Foundation.  The most recent filing was for 2015.  In that filing there was approx. $7 million in "income" with $52 million in net assets.  Net assets includes all assets minus all liabilities, so represents assets available.  I have no way of knowing what 2016 is but $52 million available (2015) vs. coaching change costs tells me that we can afford what we want. 

Not only is Norvell a much more feasible financial choice, he is my choice.  If you have not had chance to see Memphis v. Houston game, you should check it out.  Was my favorite football game of the year, or maybe for 6 years.

wonder why the Norvell thread was moved to "General Sports"?  Hmmm

[Drop the Mike]

6.2 + .2 = $6.4 mill total  I posted the contract in another thread. But that is still to high for our AD I'm sure.

Ok good deal. I was just going by the buyout article I read yesterday

[Hoggie17]

Lady Razorback, "Not a Campbell fan, however we are not "li'l ole Arkansas"."

I am sick of post that indicate that we are. Only 15 schools take take in more money.   

[Pig in the Pokey]

You got an extra $6m or more laying around for his buyout?

didnt we just save 9,000,000 by actually reading fatty's contract?

[rhames]

didnt we just save 9,000,000 by actually reading fatty's contract?

Well I don't think it works that way lol.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Lady Razorback, "Not a Campbell fan, however we are not "li'l ole Arkansas"."

I am sick of post that indicate that we are. Only 15 schools take take in more money.   

join the club. Many (most) of these dudes have a MASSIVE inferiority complex. It annoys the darn out of me. I am from Austin, i was raised to be full of self confidence to a fault. I CHOSE to be a Razorback. And I guess that's why I see it differently, but this poorliloleArkiesaw crap is disgusting. They believe what the haters say, instead of what their own eyes say. Arkansas has some HUGE advantages built in, but all they concentrate on are the few minor disadvantages.

[Pig in the Pokey]

 

Well I don't think it works that way lol.

[Hoggie17]

We can afford a winning HC.

[rhames]

It would be worth it though. IMO

[Lady Razorback]

Lady Razorback, "Not a Campbell fan, however we are not "li'l ole Arkansas"."

I am sick of post that indicate that we are. Only 15 schools take take in more money.   

I wanted to make clear that I wasn't citing financial info in support of Campbell, rather that I despise hearing that AR can't afford this or that. 

Sorry I wasn't more clear.

[Lady Razorback]

join the club. Many (most) of these dudes have a MASSIVE inferiority complex. It annoys the darn out of me. I am from Austin, i was raised to be full of self confidence to a fault. I CHOSE to be a Razorback. And I guess that's why I see it differently, but this poorliloleArkiesaw crap is disgusting. They believe what the haters say, instead of what their own eyes say. Arkansas has some HUGE advantages built in, but all they concentrate on are the few minor disadvantages.

I agree completely. 

[Lady Razorback]

We can afford a winning HC.

This!  ^^^^

[Pig in the Pokey]

It would be worth it though. IMO

I agree Matt Campbell would be a slam dunk hire AND a great fit here. And I also think 6,000,000 aint crap. look, we just did a frivolous 100 million expansion, hell it ran over budget by well over 6 million and nobody batted an eye. Consider a coach that can actually fill up the renovation as an "unforseen cost" and roll with the punches, i say. It's a drop in teh bucket compared to what a top flight coach can bring to the program (state).

[Pig in the Pokey]

I agree completely.

virtual fist bump

[Hoggie17]

I wanted to make clear that I wasn't citing financial info in support of Campbell, rather that I despise hearing that AR can't afford this or that. 

Sorry I wasn't more clear.

I don't know why people keep throwing that crap that we are poor lil ole Ark when in fact we are not. Thank you Lady.

[rhames]

I agree Matt Campbell would be a slam dunk hire AND a great fit here. And I also think 6,000,000 aint crap. look, we just did a frivolous 100 million expansion, hell it ran over budget by well over 6 million and nobody batted an eye. Consider a coach that can actually fill up the renovation as an "unforseen cost" and roll with the punches, i say. It's a drop in teh bucket compared to what a top flight coach can bring to the program (state).

I'm with you. Campbell is my number 1 by far.

[Pig in the Pokey]

I'm with you. Campbell is my number 1 by far.

I'm a Leach then Campbell and I dont see any reason to go further down the list, but there are still many good names. And long term I think Campbell may be the smarter hire if it was me. SO many out there better than Fatty.

[EastexHawg]

The Big 12 is tough to figure.  So far TCU's only good win is against Oklahoma State, but how good is Oklahoma State?  Their wins are against Tulsa, South Alabama, Pitt, Texas Tech, Baylor, and in overtime against a 3-4 Texas team.  TCU beat a ranked West Virginia team, but West Virginia really hasn't beaten anyone (East Carolina, Delaware State, Kansas, Texas Tech, Baylor) either. 

Maybe we will find out how good TCU is in the next three weeks.  They play Iowa State, Texas, and Oklahoma.  Iowa State is still somewhat of an unknown (I know they beat Oklahoma), Texas has a losing record, and then there is the showdown with OU.

[Danny J]

You got an extra $6m or more laying around for his buyout?

Yeah but I read here on HV that we can simply sell Crystal Bridges to pay for it. Any more questions?

[ricepig]

I'll take Norvell behind door #2 for his $900,000 buyout.

No doubt, is that his buyout now? It was $500,000 before he signed his extension last May, I hadn't seen an update.

https://projects.newsday.com/college-football-coaches-salaries-contracts/mike-norvell/

[ShadowHawg]

Have you Campbell fans actually followed the Cyclones this season?

Campbell lucked into recent success due to his starting qb leaving the team. The backup is so much better it's not even funny. How can a coach be so far off in his evaluation of the most important position on the team?

He is still coaching another guys kids also. There is zero evidence that he can sustain success in a P5 conference with his own recruits.

He is a long way from being a slam dunk hire.

[aloha_kid]

Interesting the way a coach can move up or down with a single win or loss. 

[aloha_kid]

Have you Campbell fans actually followed the Cyclones this season?

Campbell lucked into recent success due to his starting qb leaving the team. The backup is so much better it's not even funny. How can a coach be so far off in his evaluation of the most important position on the team?

He is still coaching another guys kids also. There is zero evidence that he can sustain success in a P5 conference with his own recruits.

He is a long way from being a slam dunk hire.

Shhh don't present facts to fans who see a single game win or loss as an indicator of a coaches true ability to run a program.

[ricepig]

Shhh don't present facts to fans who see a single game win or loss as an indicator of a coaches true ability to run a program.

I think he's a good coach, but is he worth that big of a buyout??

[870hogfan]

didnt we just save 9,000,000 by actually reading fatty's contract?

Classy....

[hoghiker]

We can afford a winning HC.

So can a lot of other programs. Arkansas is financially sound and can play with the big boys with cash. Money is going to be what it is. Market value in a very inflated market. I'm not sure that money will be the determining factor for a coach choosing one school over the other. The money is going to be there. Are we a top 25 school. Maybe. I'll concede probably even but that means there are going to be 5 or 6 schools in front of us looking for a coach. You can call that an inferiority complex if you want. Call it what you like. It is what it is.