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Title: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogCaller13 on September 18, 2013, 02:45:59 pm
Brandon might be able to play afterall on Saturday. Great News if true.

Hogs: QB Allen shoulder improving, may play Sat
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: FBREW000 on September 18, 2013, 02:46:46 pm
great... now.. please provide me a link... TY
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogFanatic on September 18, 2013, 02:47:54 pm
Probably a reaction to the news that Nova is going to play.
Great, this game will feature two QBs who are at risk of serious injury.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: bigred223 on September 18, 2013, 02:49:42 pm
Where did you procure this information?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Tim Harris on September 18, 2013, 02:50:34 pm
Of course he is improving....every day post injury you are getting a little bit better.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogCaller13 on September 18, 2013, 02:50:55 pm
Where did you procure this information?
Hootens Facebook Page.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PorkSoda on September 18, 2013, 02:50:57 pm
Probably a reaction to the news that Nova is going to play.
Great, this game will feature two QBs who are at risk of serious injury.
If it was BA's non throwing shoulder he would have been back in the game.  I wouldn't be surprised if he plays, but it will probably still be sore if he does.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogCaller13 on September 18, 2013, 02:51:34 pm
Hogs: Injured QB Allen improving, may play
by Nate Allen
September 18, 2013
FAYETTEVILLE - Arkansas starting third-year sophomore quarterback Brandon Allen is improving from his shoulder injury and will travel to Piscataway, N.J for the Razorbacks' game Saturday with Rutgers (2-1). But Allen has not practiced, Arkansas Coach Bret Bielema said on Wednesday's SEC Media Teleconference.

Bielema called Allen's availability against Rutgers "a game time" decision. He said backup QB AJ Derby, quarterbacking last Saturday's 24-3 victory over Southern Miss after Allen injured his right (throwing) shoulder in the first quarter, and redshirt freshman Austin Allen, Brandon's brother, logged the practice snaps Tuesday.

Asked for a specific description of Allen's injury,  Bielema said, "You know what, I just don't want to get into anything structurally (not broken was Bielema's description during his Monday press conference). He definitely hurt his shoulder and it's his throwing arm, obviously. That's the concern.

"He's definitely gotten better. I know he was a lot better yesterday. We filled our roster for the trip that went to the airline today. He's definitely going with us. It'll just be a game-time decision. The good news is we've been able to get a lot of quality reps with our next quarterback which would be AJ Derby and then Austin Allen after that. So it will be a work in progress until we get to Saturday. If he (Brandon Allen) can't go, the next man will be in and we'll take that challenge. I loved the way AJ and Austin handled practice."

Could he foresee playing Brandon Allen Saturday without him practicing a down this week?

"I think the thing that will really benefit him is being a prepared starter for three games," Bielema said. "I know the thing that will really benefit from here is being a prepared starter for three games. I know he only played a limited amount in that third game. He gets better with every practice, don't get me wrong, but I think he's a guy you if you felt like Saturday he could roll, we'd go with him. But he hasn't practiced. Unless the doctors could guarantee me 100 percent that there's no risk whatever and B.A. could look me in the eye and tell me, 'Hey, I can guarantee you I can go, Coach, and he doesn't blink, that's the only way we could let him go."

Bielema said starting offensive tackles Gray Ollison of Malvern and David Hurd, both injured during the Southern Miss game and replaced by freshman backups Denver Kirkland and Dan Skipper, practiced Tuesday and appear ready against Rutgers. Strong safety Rohan Gaines, out the last two games with a knee injury suffered during the season-opening victory over Louisiana-Lafayette, and receiver Keon Hatcher, idled the last two games by a hamstring injury, are also ready to play.

Have your say...
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Hawgon on September 18, 2013, 02:51:42 pm
You mean there is a chance that AJ Derby won't be able to use this game as a springboard to the Heisman Trophy?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2013, 02:55:49 pm
Gee, Bielema said in his SEC PC today that he was better and would travel. It's called gamesmanship, he also said unless cleared 100% by Dr.s, he wouldn't play.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
He won't play
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: EastexHawg on September 18, 2013, 02:59:30 pm
You mean there is a chance that AJ Derby won't be able to use this game as a springboard to the Heisman Trophy?

Au contraire.  He'll be so well known in the state that they will name a famous horse race at Oaklawn after him.

The Arkansas...
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: SDZ_Hog on September 18, 2013, 03:01:20 pm
Keep them off guard a bit.  Might even have him take a few snaps in pregame warm up. Sling and all.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: sir-pigs-a-lot on September 18, 2013, 03:03:16 pm
Vegas still has him as doubtful.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: EastexHawg on September 18, 2013, 03:03:39 pm
I just heard Tyler Wilson could possibly play against Alabama, too.  Boy, would that be a welcome sight after the debacle against UL-Monroe?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: thefisher on September 18, 2013, 03:05:18 pm
Nice Find HogCaller13. Thanks! +1
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: ricepig on September 18, 2013, 03:08:20 pm
Nice Find HogCaller13. Thanks! +1

Really, all you need to do is follow any of our beat writers on twitter, they all were quoting Bielema on his 11:10 SEC press conference.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: RazorPiggie on September 18, 2013, 03:09:03 pm
I just heard Tyler Wilson could possibly play against Alabama, too.  Boy, would that be a welcome sight after the debacle against UL-Monroe?

yeah. Same thing was said last year. I'll wait until I hear CBB say Allen is good to go or until he runs out onto the field to take our first snap from scrimmage.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:09:20 pm
Y'all getting your hopes up.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogCaller13 on September 18, 2013, 03:11:27 pm
Y'all getting your hopes up.
So You are saying there is no chance Brandon plays on Saturday? Bummer We are gonna lose now LOL.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogCaller13 on September 18, 2013, 03:12:20 pm
yeah. Same thing was said last year. I'll wait until I hear CBB say Allen is good to go or until he runs out onto the field to take our first snap from scrimmage.
You can thank Me for this post on Sat night. :}
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: 3kgthog on September 18, 2013, 03:17:55 pm
I was told by a fellow that allegedly knows the UA docs that Allen has a 6-8 week type injury. The doc also said if it were his son, he'd do surgery now so BA could recover in time to actually help us. I'm doubting the truth in it due to HIPAA regulations, but ain't it fun to throw around rumors?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on September 18, 2013, 03:23:16 pm
"Did you hear the news?...Barney Fife shot himself in the chest!"
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:23:33 pm
You can thank Me for this post on Sat night. :}


All you posted was an article that was written after coach b'a teleconference.

Is there a chance be plays? Sure because none of us really know the injury.


Using logic, it's safe to say AJ will be the qb


And just because I have a strong opinion ba won't play doesn't mean I think we lose. It will be a tough game though.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:24:52 pm
Oh and of course he will travel wih us.



Pretty sure Knile went to every game when he we out the whole season



Means nothing.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: AugustaHog on September 18, 2013, 03:25:52 pm
I don't believe anything with the Allen situation (most of CBB's talk is coach speak and very guarded).  Either way, we don't benefit by Rutgers knowing what is happening, which is why he's a "game time decision".  If it is really 6-8 wk deal, then it benefits us to play it off as a minor injury that may heal in 4 days.  I am encouraged that we will have Hurd, Ollison, Hatcher, and Gaines though.  Those are 4 key guys. 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HF#1 on September 18, 2013, 03:27:19 pm
Told y'all...  He was always going to be a "game time decision" even if Bielema knew he was not playing.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: swinetologist1 on September 18, 2013, 03:28:32 pm
I was told by a fellow that allegedly knows the UA docs that Allen has a 6-8 week type injury. The doc also said if it were his son, he'd do surgery now so BA could recover in time to actually help us. I'm doubting the truth in it due to HIPAA regulations, but ain't it fun to throw around rumors?

Surgery for what has been described as an "AC Joint Bruise?" I'm not sure what the surgery would do for a bruise. I too will doubt the truth in this rumor.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:30:50 pm
Surgery for what has been described as an "AC Joint Bruise?" I'm not sure what the surgery would do for a bruise. I too will doubt the truth in this rumor.


It isn't a bruise
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rljjr on September 18, 2013, 03:34:31 pm
This isn't the NFL. You can play these "who has an injury" kind of games. I'm not blaming anyone for it, either. It's the system ... and you do what you have to do. Bottom line is none of us really know -- and that's ok.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on September 18, 2013, 03:34:38 pm
We should check with Bo Mattingly first.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HogCaller13 on September 18, 2013, 03:35:06 pm

It isn't a bruise
I love the Hogville "DRS''.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Hawg Balling on September 18, 2013, 03:36:14 pm
Oh and of course he will travel wih us.



Pretty sure Knile went to every game when he we out the whole season



Means nothing.

True.

Allen going to Rutgers is reminiscent of Knile dressing out for the Cotton Bowl.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:36:47 pm
I love the Hogville "DRS''.


Dude. It's just common sense man. He couldn't move his arm after the touchdown


If you think he is playing Saturday you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: braxhog on September 18, 2013, 03:39:11 pm

Dude. It's just common sense man. He couldn't move his arm after the touchdown


If you think he is playing Saturday you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm not piling on you rhames, but are you basing your opinion off of something you know or heard, or just "common sense?" Legit question, not trying to flame or anything.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: swinetologist1 on September 18, 2013, 03:43:44 pm

It isn't a bruise

Oh? Then do tell us
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:46:55 pm
I'm not piling on you rhames, but are you basing your opinion off of something you know or heard, or just "common sense?" Legit question, not trying to flame or anything.


Don't think you are coming at me at all


There really isn't such thing as a "bruised shoulder"

Internet searches can tell you what he probably has. Most believe it is a slight dislocated shoulder

If you watch the game and see him come up from the injury you can tell his arm is limp


Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: RazorPiggie on September 18, 2013, 03:47:10 pm

It isn't a bruise

I guess "no structural damage" doesn't mean what it use to.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:48:22 pm
I guess "no structural damage" doesn't mean what it use to.


I could be wrong. Hope I am


Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Huckleberry Pig on September 18, 2013, 03:54:52 pm
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Excited-Amy-Adams-In-Cute-Dress-Reaction-Gif.gif)

^OP when creating this thread
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 03:56:40 pm
I should have reworded it


In my opinion it is worse than a brusied shoulder

Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: twistitup on September 18, 2013, 03:59:26 pm
Can you say 'coach speak'?

BA is not playing
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: braxhog on September 18, 2013, 04:18:02 pm
I should have reworded it


In my opinion it is worse than a brusied shoulder



I actually had a similar injury. Couldn't lift my arm for two days, but progressed to where I was throwing again by mid week. He has some built in recovery advantages that I didn't have. Not saying we had the exact same injury, but it is plausible that he could play if he progresses like I did. The  risk would be another blow to his shoulder. It is a risk. Hoping for the best. Long term health is the priority though.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: The_Iceman on September 18, 2013, 04:20:56 pm
I should have reworded it

In my opinion it is worse than a brusied shoulder

Clint Stoerner explained the injury on the radio the other morning. Said he had the same injury in college.

Said that it's a bruise, but also a stretched shoulder. Depending on the severity, you could recover in 3-4 days, or 2 weeks. Just depends.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: MissippHog on September 18, 2013, 04:38:57 pm
I guess the silver lining from that article is it mentions Ollison, Hurd, Hatcher, and Gaines will all be ready to play.  We really need Rohan back on the field.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: RazorPiggie on September 18, 2013, 04:41:03 pm
I guess the silver lining from that article is it mentions Ollison, Hurd, Hatcher, and Gaines will all be ready to play.  We really need Rohan back on the field.

I guess I missed it. What happened to Hurd. I thought he played all last Saturday?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Arkansas Fan on September 18, 2013, 04:46:00 pm
Let me guess...


Tim Horton said he was healthy and ready to play?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: 870hogfan on September 18, 2013, 04:48:42 pm
I guess I missed it. What happened to Hurd. I thought he played all last Saturday?


Hurd got hurt late in the game last Saturday.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: razorbacksnum1 on September 18, 2013, 04:49:08 pm
I bet Derby starts but I hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: RazorPiggie on September 18, 2013, 04:52:13 pm

Hurd got hurt late in the game last Saturday.

One of the things you miss while at the games I guess. Never knew.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: hogman1974 on September 18, 2013, 04:52:40 pm

Dude. It's just common sense man. He couldn't move his arm after the touchdown


Not saying he is playing.  But when Jonathan Williams went down in game one and walked to the locker room, he couldn't move his left arm.  He was holding it up with his right hand.  It was dead.  Everyone on Hogville was so sure it was a broken arm or a separated shoulder.  It was a stinger.  "He can't move his arm!  He's out for the season!"  He came back in after halftime and torched LL for a 75 yard TD.  You can't sit on a couch and make a diagnosis. 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: HighOntheHog on September 18, 2013, 04:59:41 pm
Not saying he is playing.  But when Jonathan Williams went down in game one and walked to the locker room, he couldn't move his left arm.  He was holding it up with his right hand.  It was dead.  Everyone on Hogville was so sure it was a broken arm or a separated shoulder.  It was a stinger.  "He can't move his arm!  He's out for the season!"  He came back in after halftime and torched LL for a 75 yard TD.  You can't sit on a couch and make a diagnosis.

This. There really is no telling.  They're playing it close to the hip right now, and that's good. We will know Saturday or maybe Friday at the earliest. BOth teams are in the same boat. Having to prepare for two different QB's makes it harder, but arkansas will play like arkansas has been playing.  Rutgers will also. 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
I agree. Just the feeling I'm getting



Williams also returned to the game and didnt have to wear a sling.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: luke hawg on September 18, 2013, 05:45:59 pm
I agree. Just the feeling I'm getting



Williams also returned to the game and didnt have to wear a sling.

Williams isn't chunking a football 30 to 50 yards either.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PygmalionEffect on September 18, 2013, 05:49:37 pm
I agree. Just the feeling I'm getting



Williams also returned to the game and didnt have to wear a sling.

Odd that two weeks later in the S.Miss. game, Williams was the most productive RB but had much fewer carries than Collins, plus they ran Small a bunch in the 2nd qtr.  Could've been for ball security just trying to get into halftime but it made me wonder if Williams wasn't 100% healthy, meaning the shoulder was still sore so they limited his carries.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PygmalionEffect on September 18, 2013, 05:52:52 pm
Not saying he is playing.  But when Jonathan Williams went down in game one and walked to the locker room, he couldn't move his left arm.  He was holding it up with his right hand.  It was dead.  Everyone on Hogville was so sure it was a broken arm or a separated shoulder.  It was a stinger.  "He can't move his arm!  He's out for the season!"  He came back in after halftime and torched LL for a 75 yard TD.  You can't sit on a couch and make a diagnosis.

Yea but Jonathon's good friend didn't come on here posting that JWil would be out for 1 or 2 games either.

This did happen with BA on Sunday when we were coming off the CBB press conference where everyone was thinking BA was ok.

What I saw live, combined with the way the poster talked about inside info on BA's injury, had me believing that maybe this guy wasn't trollin.

Two days later the media starts picking up the story that BA is now out for Rutgers.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 06:23:33 pm
Look

I'm just going on opinion


After the game bielema sad they held him out for precautionary reasons and Brandon felt like he would be back Saturday


Now it is they may or may not play him Saturday


All qbs are off limits to the press


Maybe I have bad memories from last year but to me all the signs are pointing to us playing with Allen


On the teleconference today they flat out asked coach if it was an ac sprain and be said he didn't want to get into it.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Boston RedHogs on September 18, 2013, 06:32:15 pm
I would think BA playing on Sat has to be a very low probability.

And before the first person says, "so you're saying there's a chance"....of course there is.  But I don't think it will happen.

I'm actually interested to see how Derby looks after a full week of practice with the first team as I think he's our guy this weekend
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: jjdlc on September 18, 2013, 06:50:55 pm
Of course there are mind games involved.  Will he or won't he play?  I couldn't even begin to guess.  But by taking him with the team, the possibility exists, so Rutgers has to at least consider that possibility.   If they don't, and he plays, they risk what already appears to be a questionable secondary really getting torched. 

I said in another thread on burning AAs redshirt, that I felt like they would go with Derby to start and see how that went before deciding to take the shirt off.  Same goes here, if Allen can play, but isn't 100%, then I expect they go with Derby to start, and then put Allen in if we need to open the passing game up.  The smart thing to do, if it appears we can win with Derby, would be to rest BA if possible to get ready for next week vs. A&M.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PorkSoda on September 18, 2013, 06:53:51 pm
Of course there are mind games involved.  Will he or won't he play?  I couldn't even begin to guess.  But by taking him with the team, the possibility exists, so Rutgers has to at least consider that possibility.   If they don't, and he plays, they risk what already appears to be a questionable secondary really getting torched. 

I said in another thread on burning AAs redshirt, that I felt like they would go with Derby to start and see how that went before deciding to take the shirt off.  Same goes here, if Allen can play, but isn't 100%, then I expect they go with Derby to start, and then put Allen in if we need to open the passing game up.  The smart thing to do, if it appears we can win with Derby, would be to rest BA if possible to get ready for next week vs. A&M.

This ^^
So much will depend on the flow of the game, but regardless Derby will start.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: 12247 on September 18, 2013, 07:10:24 pm
Another Opinion:::Because of seeing BA in a sling last saturday, I figure he is hurt worse than anything being offered by those that should know.  I do not expect to see BA in the Rutgers game no matter the situation cause I doubt he will be able.  Maybe by next week, he'll be able to play but I would not be surprised if he didn't play against A&M.

Due to the offensive scheme we use, unless Derby goes all excitement and can't get the snap or make the handoff, I don't see much difference in who QBs this team.

Once we establish a better passing game, I would then worry about who is at QB but not right now.  Every team member believing he needs to play a bit harder because our QB is out may help us more than if BA was healthy and playing.

Our coaching staff has been babysitting this team from the very first game to keep them confident and going forward.  This game will be no different.  It takes time to get over the head injuries we suffered from last years SMILE & CO tenure. 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: jjdlc on September 18, 2013, 07:30:39 pm
Another Opinion:::Because of seeing BA in a sling last saturday, I figure he is hurt worse than anything being offered by those that should know.  I do not expect to see BA in the Rutgers game no matter the situation cause I doubt he will be able.

Might be right, thats whats interesting about the situation.  The only people who really know anything, are the coaches, BA, and team doctors.  They have done an excellent job of playing this close to their chest.  Maybe they've been getting lessons from Jeff Long.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PorkSoda on September 18, 2013, 07:36:18 pm
Might be right, thats whats interesting about the situation.  The only people who really know anything, are the coaches, BA, and team doctors.  They have done an excellent job of playing this close to their chest.  Maybe they've been getting lessons from Jeff Long.
I don't really think they are trying to trick anyone, its a game time decisions based on how well he progresses through the week.  They aren't making any decisions other than that he will travel with the team.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: jjdlc on September 18, 2013, 07:44:04 pm
I don't really think they are trying to trick anyone, its a game time decisions based on how well he progresses through the week.  They aren't making any decisions other than that he will travel with the team.

Maybe, maybe not, still doesn't change the fact that very few people really know BAs actual status.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 18, 2013, 07:47:10 pm
I think you guys are putting too much stock in the "mind games" theory


The gameplan to beat arkansas is to stop the run. Doesn't matter who the qb is.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: jjdlc on September 18, 2013, 08:07:22 pm
I think you guys are putting too much stock in the "mind games" theory


The gameplan to beat arkansas is to stop the run. Doesn't matter who the qb is.

Coaches do stuff all the times that are meant to keep the other team guessing.

Truth of the matter is, there is no reason at all for BA to not travel with the team.  On the other hand, now Rutgers has to at least consider the possibility that he plays.  Does it change their game plan?  Only the Rutger's coaches know.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: BrokenArrowHogs on September 18, 2013, 08:15:56 pm
The gameplan to beat arkansas is to stop the run. Doesn't matter who the qb is.

Agreed.  You can draw up their game plan pretty easily.  They will crowd the line and put pressure on the run game to see if they can stuff it.  They will dare AR to prove it can pass on them. Our team has not established such a passing presence that any opposing team is going to worry much about it yet. 

The TEs should be major factors in a game like this and fortunately, we have several good ones that can create mismatches at manageable throwing distances and angles for Derby. 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Jamie Jones on September 18, 2013, 09:22:43 pm
We won't need BA to win this game. And AJ will be getting some much needed playing time for future games. The worst thing that could happen for AJ would be for him to get banged up and AA get into the game. When that happens, BA will be hard pressed to get back in. JMO
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Hog N Bama on September 18, 2013, 09:26:29 pm
I would think BA playing on Sat has to be a very low probability.

And before the first person says, "so you're saying there's a chance"....of course there is.  But I don't think it will happen.

I'm actually interested to see how Derby looks after a full week of practice with the first team as I think he's our guy this weekend
I wonder if Derby is more of the dual threat QB Coach B likes? He's a big strong guy...dude is 6' 5" I think and can be physical when needed.  Brandon Allen is still the best passing QB on the team no doubt
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on September 18, 2013, 09:31:47 pm
This. There really is no telling.  They're playing it close to the hip right now, and that's good. We will know Saturday or maybe Friday at the earliest. BOth teams are in the same boat. Having to prepare for two different QB's makes it harder, but arkansas will play like arkansas has been playing.  Rutgers will also.

Man, now he's got a bad hip?  What's next....? 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: razorbackkid on September 18, 2013, 09:37:07 pm
No way BA plays.....:bsflag:
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on September 18, 2013, 09:37:11 pm
I think it's hilarious that everyone is guessing about his injury.  They are not going to tell us anything by design.  It would be as simple as a mild AC sprain that is inflamed and making the shoulder stiff, to a damaged rotator cuff, or a partially torn labrum.  There's not a soul on here who knows anything from what I can tell. 

I'll be shocked if he plays.  I'll be shocked if he doesn't.  I feel very strongly both ways.   
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: twistitup on September 18, 2013, 09:38:21 pm
It's national cheeseburger day today, that is why he was improving so much - hopped up on cheeseburgers. He almost fooled the coaches into letting him start- that's how good he was feeling.

Derby better eat a cheeseburger.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PonderinHog on September 18, 2013, 09:40:36 pm
I don't really think they are trying to trick anyone, its a game time decisions based on how well he progresses through the week.  They aren't making any decisions other than that he will travel with the team.
I wonder how many of our players have ever been to NYC.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on September 18, 2013, 09:41:48 pm
It's national cheeseburger day today, that is why he was improving so much - hopped up on cheeseburgers. He almost fooled the coaches into letting him start- that's how good he was feeling.

Derby better eat a cheeseburger.

National cheeseburger day?  Be right back....
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: twistitup on September 18, 2013, 09:43:37 pm
National cheeseburger day?  Be right back....

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dray/18-ways-to-celebrate-national-cheeseburger-day-4666?s=mobile
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: razorbackkid on September 18, 2013, 09:45:55 pm
http://www.buzzfeed.com/dray/18-ways-to-celebrate-national-cheeseburger-day-4666?s=mobile
Coolbeans.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: hogwild210 on September 18, 2013, 10:27:57 pm
Really, all you need to do is follow any of our beat writers on twitter, they all were quoting Bielema on his 11:10 SEC press conference.

For those of us who don't twit, we have Hogville
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on September 18, 2013, 11:01:53 pm
Y'all getting your hopes up.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4590975/niggas-be-like-i-got-you-a-dollar-o-s.gif)
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rowdy1 on September 18, 2013, 11:05:44 pm
Inside sources say he is playing
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Hogsmo Kramer on September 18, 2013, 11:08:26 pm
Not gonna play.

But we'll be fine regardless.

WPS!
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: pigasaurus on September 18, 2013, 11:28:41 pm
All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.   Sun Tzu
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: BENTON PIGGEE on September 18, 2013, 11:36:04 pm
You mean there is a chance that AJ Derby won't be able to use this game as a springboard to the Heisman Trophy?

You stay classy, Hawgon.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: sir-pigs-a-lot on September 18, 2013, 11:38:40 pm
Inside sources say he is playing

Sweet. Will DGB be lining up at WR or TE?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PigPusher on September 18, 2013, 11:48:00 pm

It isn't a bruise

So then our coach is a liar. Do you really want to go there?
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: bxw21 on September 19, 2013, 12:00:31 am
Allen is out for 2-4 weeks. No surgery tho.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: B-Ross2417 on September 19, 2013, 12:07:11 am
Sweet. Will DGB be lining up at WR or TE?

It's all up to Coach Gundy.  Let's not speculate and let the media do their jobs...
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: sir-pigs-a-lot on September 19, 2013, 12:25:46 am
"Did you hear the news?...Barney Fife shot himself in the chest!"

Those gossipin men
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: lumphog on September 19, 2013, 12:53:38 am
It's all up to Coach Gundy.  Let's not speculate and let the media do their jobs...
I'm 40
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PonderinHog on September 19, 2013, 02:20:57 am

It isn't a bruise
Is it a tumor ???
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Westcoasthog on September 19, 2013, 02:25:57 am
   I am hoping that Brandon Allen is improving and will play against Rutgers, and of course Texas A&M!
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: BoynamedWooPigSooie on September 19, 2013, 02:52:31 am
Have we heard from that one guy's mom yet?  That's when I'll start getting hopes up.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: razorbackkid on September 19, 2013, 06:39:29 am
Is it a tumor ???
Bruised shoulder pad, tumor is on his jersey. 
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: rhames on September 19, 2013, 07:58:33 am
So then our coach is a liar. Do you really want to go there?


Not sure if serious.


But yes. I don't think he was truthful.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Swine-as-wine on September 19, 2013, 08:03:19 am
Brandon might be able to play afterall on Saturday. Great News if true.

Hogs: QB Allen shoulder improving, may play Sat

as of yesterday......

"Unless the doctors can guarantee me 100 percent that there's no risk whatsoever, and (Allen) could look me in the eye and tell me, 'I can guarantee you I can go, coach,' and doesn't blink, that's the only way we'd let him go," Bielema said.

http://www.cadillacnews.com/ap_story/?story_id=156314&ap_cat=3&issue=20130918
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: ricepig on September 19, 2013, 08:08:23 am
For those of us who don't twit, we have Hogville

Yeah, but you're missing those vital seconds of knowing...........
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: DeltaBoy on September 19, 2013, 08:17:59 am
I'm not worried if he is going with the team he might see the field after all but I believe we can win with Derby.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: 31to6 on September 19, 2013, 08:26:13 am
Odd that two weeks later in the S.Miss. game, Williams was the most productive RB but had much fewer carries than Collins, plus they ran Small a bunch in the 2nd qtr.  Could've been for ball security just trying to get into halftime but it made me wonder if Williams wasn't 100% healthy, meaning the shoulder was still sore so they limited his carries.

CBB said they were trying to avoid giving him too many snaps.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: RazorPiggie on September 19, 2013, 08:32:58 am
Is it a tumor ???

(http://i.qkme.me/3slg8c.jpg)
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: hogwild210 on September 19, 2013, 08:51:57 am
It's all up to Coach Gundy.  Let's not speculate and let the media do their jobs...

I lol'ed
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: jry04 on September 19, 2013, 09:03:41 am
Allen is out for 2-4 weeks. No surgery tho.

Well, 2 weeks will be next Saturday.

I don't know the exact extent of his injury, but I really don't think he will miss the A&M game.
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Pigsknuckles on September 19, 2013, 09:13:46 am
Keep them off guard a bit.  Might even have him take a few snaps in pregame warm up. Sling and all.

Maybe coach should leak out that BA is ambidextrous too. :)
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: PonderinHog on September 19, 2013, 09:30:39 am
Maybe coach should leak out that BA is ambidextrous too. :)
Then why didn't he land on his other shoulder ???
Title: Re: Brandon Allen Is Improving!!!
Post by: Pigsknuckles on September 19, 2013, 09:54:03 am
Then why didn't he land on his other shoulder ???

Guess it was his choice.