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Started by Porkyswine, January 06, 2008, 03:38:43 pm

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Porkyswine

in recruiting.......Rivals has us ranked #28 now.  Even if we could get Joe Adams to switch, I don't think we'll end up in the top 20.  Well, there's always next year. ;)

losthawg68

with a good coaching staff like we have, i don't think that ranking is going to matter much, hopefully anyways
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Bigfoot

Petrino did not get much time this year to change this. It will get better in the future though!

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SpiritHog

Last year Saban was hired around the 5th of January and still put together a top 10 class.  Have faith
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Porkyswine

I'm worried about defensive recruits.  I think we are set on the offensive side of the ball as long as D.C. stays with us.  We don't have any big d-lineman/ends committed.  CBs/LBs is another concern.  I think we'll end up ok with safety's.

snoblind


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Our new staff has had one week of recruiting and got us a 4 star QB.

The dead period will end soon and I would look for some good news.

The real Hogules

January 06, 2008, 04:11:36 pm #9 Last Edit: January 06, 2008, 04:26:46 pm by The real Hogules
Butch Davis had the #15 class in the Nation last season after taking over at UNC, so I'm not ready to admit defeat in recruiting this season quite yet.

There's still time to get some major talent this year and next year will be a better measuring stick as to how Bobby Petrino and staff will be able to do on the recruiting trail, IMHO.

One other thing to consider is that Arkansas HS athletes are "usually" rated lower than they should be, due to the lack of exposure. If this coaching staff can recruit classes in the #12-#25 range, then the talent being attracted to the UofA will be good enough to compete in the SEC. And if your talent is good enough for the SEC, then it's good enough to play with anybody in the Nation, IMHO.

Let's have a little faith in the coaching staff that coach Petrino has put together, because this is without a doubt the best group of coaches assembled at the UofA in the last 20-25 years!




Here's Scouts top 25 and we are ranked #22. The number of committed recruits for each school is listed in red.
You will also notice that SEVERAL schools above us have already used up their respective number of scholarships, so as teams like Arkansas finish up their recruiting the schools already out of schollies rankings will begin to drop.


1.  Notre Dame     22 I-A Ind  4298 7 5 12 5 11 11 0 22 0 4.00 1. 
2.  Georgia           24 SEC  4051 5 3 11 10 12 11 1 24 0 3.71 3. 
3.  Alabama          26 SEC  3941 2 0 16 8 12 13 1 25 1 3.54 2. 
4.  LSU                23 SEC  3547 2 2 9 12 12 11 0 23 0 3.57 9. 
5.  Miami (Fl)        27 ACC  3498 5 3 5 14 11 15 1 26 1 3.15 4. 
6.  Florida State    21 ACC  3337 3 3 8 10 9 12 0 18 3 3.67 5. 
7.  UCLA              21 Pac-10  3316 3 1 10 10 11 9 1 21 0 3.57 6. 
8.  Texas             20 Big 12  3241 6 1 12 6 9 10 1 20 0 3.65 10. 
9.  Texas A&M      25 Big 12  3216 0 0 8 15 11 13 1 24 1 3.24 7. 
10.  Washington    25 Pac-10  3189 1 1 7 12 17 8 0 25 0 3.16 8. 
11.  Ohio State     16 Big Ten  2980 7 4 7 5 8 7 1 16 0 3.94 11. 
12.  Illinois            26 Big Ten  2941 0 0 7 14 15 11 0 25 1 3.08 12. 
13.  Michigan        17 Big Ten  2898 5 2 11 3 11 6 0 17 0 3.82 14. 
14.  USC              14 Pac-10  2763 6 5 5 4 10 4 0 14 0 4.07 13. 
15.  Oklahoma      15 Big 12  2725 6 3 6 5 9 5 1 15 0 3.73 15. 
16.  Pittsburgh      16 Big East  2441 4 2 5 8 12 3 1 14 2 3.50 21. 
17.  Florida           16 SEC  2437 4 4 3 9 6 9 1 14 2 3.69 19. 
18.  Virginia Tech  28 ACC  2421 1 0 5 14 14 14 0 28 0 2.86 18. 
t19. Arizona State  19 Pac-10  2309 1 0 7 11 13 6 0 16 3 3.32 20. 
t19. Boston College  27 ACC  2309 0 0 3 10 14 12 1 26 1 2.56 17. 
21.  Clemson          18 ACC  2178 1 1 6 7 8 8 2 17 1 3.11 16. 
22.  Arkansas         18 SEC  2083 0 0 2 13 12 6 0 18 0 2.94 22. 
23.  Colorado         17 Big 12  1997 3 1 3 9 7 10 0 16 1 3.06 23. 
24.  Penn State      12 Big Ten  1987 1 0 9 2 5 7 0 12 0 3.67 24. 
25.  Auburn           18 SEC  1980 0 1 5 10 11 7 0 16 2 3.28 25. 
Bobby's back and he ain't here to paint!

txkrazorback

and what was the top 25 recruiting list last year?
and where was Notre Dame on that list?
and what was Notre Dame's record this year?
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preach33

You see where ND is on that list and where they have ended their season the last two years.  Recruit class ranking is over-rated. I will rely on the coaching abilities of Pretrino and Company.

HogFaninMemphis

Quote from: losthawg68 on January 06, 2008, 03:40:27 pm
with a good coaching staff like we have, i don't think that ranking is going to matter much, hopefully anyways
Yeah if Nutt can win this level of talent, then Petrino should be able to win.
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Tusks

I think BP will eventually be ok at recruiting....but the type of players he recruits are going to be far different from the one hooten did.

BP is all business.....not a big baller shot caller.  Those players that are used to the  emotional rant from hooty aren't going to like BP business apprach and the team goal to win above all else.

It's not made for everyone.
sometimes it's a good and some times it's a schit

destinflhog

Tennessee is notably absent and what happened to Florida?

Houston h

Recruiting polls don't mean jack, it depends on coaching once the players are on campus and I believe in this coaching staff.  They only had a week anyway so this class isn't a true judgement of their abilities.

natehog

Quote from: nutted on January 06, 2008, 08:25:24 pm
I think BP will eventually be ok at recruiting....but the type of players he recruits are going to be far different from the one hooten did.

BP is all business.....not a big baller shot caller.  Those players that are used to the  emotional rant from hooty aren't going to like BP business apprach and the team goal to win above all else.

It's not made for everyone.

You may be right.  But that rah rah crap wore thin quick with a lot of us and may have with the players too.

Bryan (CHF)

As has been previously said, I am going to give Coach Petrino the chance to succeed. I think we have been pessimistic for so long due to the clowns we previously had, we have forgotten how to have "faith" in our program. I think we need to give him a chance to work his magic. If he doesn't win 9 games next year, that's ok. If 5 years from now he still hasn't won 9 games, then we need to have a little talk. I am more excited about the future of our program then I have been in a long time.
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toshortrock

fellows fellows lets don't jump ship just yet,,let;s get the ball rolling
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i like the # 7

remember guys, this is nutts class we are talking about.
People say if it flies it dies. Well i say if it just sits there it still dies.

GrantWalker

Quote from: Porkyswine on January 06, 2008, 03:38:43 pm
in recruiting.......Rivals has us ranked #28 now.  Even if we could get Joe Adams to switch, I don't think we'll end up in the top 20.  Well, there's always next year. ;)
I don't care what they rank us and I never have.

PearlHarbor

Quote from: Camden_Hogfan on January 06, 2008, 08:48:39 pm
As has been previously said, I am going to give Coach Petrino the chance to succeed. I think we have been pessimistic for so long due to the clowns we previously had, we have forgotten how to have "faith" in our program. I think we need to give him a chance to work his magic. If he doesn't win 9 games next year, that's ok. If 5 years from now he still hasn't won 9 games, then we need to have a little talk. I am more excited about the future of our program then I have been in a long time.

Good post. I agree 110%.

maximus

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MinowBucket

The majority on this board thought with better coaching the last two years Arkansas could have gone to a BCS bowl. Now we have better coaches. What is there to worry about? Give BP some time...jeez.

elksnort

Rankings are horse sh*t for the most extent. FSU has sucked this decade, but yet they get great recruting ratings.

taintlint

There are those that say that recruiting rankings are BS. To an extent this is true. Great recruits DOES not equal a great team but go find a great team without top recruits!

Top rate, consistent BCS caliber teams ALWAYS have top notch recruiting classes. Is it a coincidence that we consistently have both middle of the SEC classes and finish middle of the pack? I don't think so.

If you want to discount recruiting rankings because sometimes they are incorrect, you must also justify why every year the National Champion has the top recruits.

Fatman

If you have read my posts over the years I have been extremely critical of our recruiting. I think we need to give BP at least two years to determine if he can recruit big name players. The fact that he was on the job 3 days and got Tyler Wilson to commit and cause Joe Adams to take a visit says alot to me. The formula of keeping all in state kids and going to Texas and Florida and Louisiana to get players will be a sucessful formula for us. I do believe this staff will develop players better and quicker than we have ever seen. Good days are ahead. It is great that this board is back to talking football and recruiting and not talking about e-mails, text messages , FOI's etc. Hogville is the best!!!

HoggyWayne

Quote from: PorkOpine on January 06, 2008, 05:39:15 pm
Petrino has historically developed his recruits.  There's nothing to suggest the previous Arkansas staff did this.  Which leads me to believe there is alot of untapped potential on the roster.

Unlike the Ole Miss coach, who has historically Undeveloped our talent. I like that word when talking about our incoming recruits, developed or developing. Nice!

SooiecidetillNuttgone

Quote from: taintlint on January 06, 2008, 10:40:42 pm
There are those that say that recruiting rankings are BS. To an extent this is true. Great recruits DOES not equal a great team but go find a great team without top recruits!

Top rate, consistent BCS caliber teams ALWAYS have top notch recruiting classes. Is it a coincidence that we consistently have both middle of the SEC classes and finish middle of the pack? I don't think so.

If you want to discount recruiting rankings because sometimes they are incorrect, you must also justify why every year the National Champion has the top recruits.

I'm afraid you're wasting your breath.  This same, old argument seems to come up at least once a week.  I can't remember the poster, but someone finally had enough of this crap, and went back about 6 to 10 years, and pulled up the top 25 recruiting classes as well as the final rankings from each year.
I'm sure you know what he proved.
Despite the occasional anomaly like Boise St. or Hawaii, the top recruiting classes almost always correlated to the top teams.
Why so many on here want to dismiss this is beyond me.  Maybe it's just envy.

"Waah-waah!  We can't get those top 10 recruiting classes, so we'll all just sit around in a pouting party and pretend that we don't care.  Waah-waah!"
His response to me:
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Bryan (CHF)

Quote from: SooiecidetillNuttgone on January 07, 2008, 09:07:38 am
I'm afraid you're wasting your breath.  This same, old argument seems to come up at least once a week.  I can't remember the poster, but someone finally had enough of this crap, and went back about 6 to 10 years, and pulled up the top 25 recruiting classes as well as the final rankings from each year.
I'm sure you know what he proved.
Despite the occasional anomaly like Boise St. or Hawaii, the top recruiting classes almost always correlated to the top teams.
Why so many on here want to dismiss this is beyond me.  Maybe it's just envy.

"Waah-waah!  We can't get those top 10 recruiting classes, so we'll all just sit around in a pouting party and pretend that we don't care.  Waah-waah!"
I agree with both of you. However, a top recruiting class is just part of the equation. You can have all the 4/5 star recruits in the world and still not win the big games without a good coaching staff. Hopefully, we have fix the latter and can begin to fix the recruiting class piece starting next year.
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