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majp51

Quote from: ErieHog on February 28, 2016, 10:39:06 am

And people wonder why our fan base is regarded as reality-challenged.

To be fair, he is the closes thing Arkansas has to a complete player this year, and so by comparison he looks far and away better than say Portis did last year. Of course Portis was younger, and had seem real complementary pieces, which meant he didn't stand out the way Kingsley does.

Kingsley has played well, but honestly isn't even in the same ballpark as Portis.

Nipsey Mussle

Quote from: ErieHog on February 24, 2016, 11:11:51 pm
He's light years from pro-ready.    Portis last year, was pro-ready.

He has the athleticism, but not the polish.    He needs face up to the basket work, help defense work, work on resisting shot fakes,  learning to play with foul trouble,  more work on how to fill as a trailer, and more work in iso situations.    It'd be nice if he worked more on turning over both shoulders as well.

Too many people see a guy who puts up a 20/10 line in a college game, and think  'that kind of productivity must surely translate to being a professional basketball player'--    it doesn't.   Skills translate.    Polish translates.  Shooting usually translates.

He's a fine college player today--  he's not a pro by any measure.
BJ Young was most certainly an NBA draft pick because of his elite first step. Everyone was an idiot that thought otherwise, according to our resident draft experts. Your stance back then was that certain things could be taught once they made the NBA, and you couldn't teach athleticism. Now it's all about the necessity of skill.

I'm glad you learned from the BJ Young debacle (as did my boy the Donkey from Doggtown). Kingsley likely won't be drafted this year, but you speak on the issue like you are an absolute authority.

 

ErieHog

Quote from: BBsTheMan on February 28, 2016, 12:27:48 pm
BJ Young was most certainly an NBA draft pick because of his elite first step. Everyone was an idiot that thought otherwise, according to our resident draft experts. Your stance back then was that certain things could be taught once they made the NBA, and you couldn't teach athleticism. Now it's all about the necessity of skill.

I'm glad you learned from the BJ Young debacle (as did my boy the Donkey from Doggtown). Kingsley likely won't be drafted this year, but you speak on the issue like you are an absolute authority.

You can miss on marginal prospects more easily-- in both directions.    Take a look at the Portis conversation last year, to see how little clue our fan base has, about no-doubters.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

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rickfahr

Quote from: hobhog on February 24, 2016, 08:18:18 am
Anyone else think he is playing in the NBA next year besides me?

I have as much chance of being on an NBA roster next season as Kingsley does.

Pancetta

For as much progress as Moses has made on his game in 6 years of playing organized basketball I am not going to say he can't make it as an NBA player some day. 
Jump Ball / Re: Time to hit the panic button?
January 06, 2022, 05:32:59 pm
Nah. Every single transfer can score. The shots will come once the pecking order gets sorted out.
Pancetta

ErieHog

Quote from: Pancetta on March 03, 2016, 09:22:54 am
For as much progress as Moses has made on his game in 6 years of playing organized basketball I am not going to say he can't make it as an NBA player some day. 

Some day, and in 4 months are very different creatures.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

HVHog

Quote from: ErieHog on February 28, 2016, 10:39:06 am

And people wonder why our fan base is regarded as reality-challenged.

I'm not reality challenged.  I actually played college basketball.  He's a better shooter, defender, athlete, shot blocker, rebounder, has better moves, is more fluid, can react faster, and will be a better pro in the end.  You have your opinion, I have mine.  We'll see who's right down the road.

MountieDawg

Moses is very impressive with his athletic ability and his shot continues to get better and better.
SEC!

SooiecidetillNuttgone

For the most part, I agree with Erie.

To me, Kingsley is pro material but not right now.
He's lacking some skills that a non-center should have such as consistent shooting at range, ball handling skills, and better defensive control.

I think if he left at the end of the season,  he'd end up in the D League or overseas.   At that point,  his making the NBA,  is a crapshoot.
His response to me:
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