So, what if the Hogs lose to Mizzou?

[yocdaddy]

This is probably going to be Mike's first losing season as a head coach.  It's the timing of it that has many scratching their heads.  This is his 5th season at Arkansas.  I'm starting to wonder if he is too comfortable here.  I mean the evidence points to a guy at UAB and Missouri coaching with a chip on his shoulders to prove his mettle out from under the shadow of Coach Richardson.  He may have even used Arkansas as the motivation to succeed at those places.  I don't see the same guy on the sidelines now.

So, all the excuse makers aside, what happens if a team we beat by 30+ on the road comes in here and beats us?  Can we safely say, he has lost the team? Will he lose his job?

[The_Iceman]

I'll park a frickin' moving truck in front of Mike's house. Maybe he'll get the point.

[hogsanity]

If they lose at home to a Mizzu team they beat by 30+ on the road, Mike should do the honorable thing and resign in the post game press conference.

Now, what he will actually do is is throw out more worthless talk about defense, and intensity, and shooting better, and how we have help coming if they will just let him wait until 2019 or 2020, or until his great grand kids are old enough to play.

[cmrhawg]

I dont know. Probably wont lose his job. But to be perfectly honest, I dont really care. I had no desire to go the game last night. It was also the first game I can remember that I havent watched on TV. I looked up the score, saw we lost, chuckled a little. The last 18 years or so have been rough, but it's different now. Worse somehow.

For a lot of people, me included, CMA represented the hope that we would return to what we once were. Last year added fuel to that hope for me personally. Now with the product we are putting on the floor, I'm left to wonder what we have to look forward to as a basketball program. A new coach? That's really been working out well for us.

My care factor has officially hit 0

[psooie]

According to his contract, if MA is fired he is owed $1 million per year though 2020 so $4 million total buyout this year, $3 million next year and so on until 2020 and 0. Considering MA is making $2 million right now, you could hire a new guy at $1.5 million and be out 500,000 per year for the next 4 years if you wanted to make a change. I'm sure you could find a coach for $1.5 if money is tight. This isn't really a good time to fire MA given the roster and he should get 1 more chance to see what he can do for next season.  However, losing to missouri or really say dropping 5 out of 5  to close the season and it should be curtains. Barley making the ncaa tourney isn't much of a standard.

[mizzouman]

Won't happen so don't worry about it.

[Sivad]

According to his contract, if MA is fired he is owed $1 million per year though 2020 so $4 million total buyout this year, $3 million next year and so on until 2020 and 0. Considering MA is making $2 million right now.

What a gargantuan waste of money hiring Anderson. All to chase the myth of time travel back to Nolan before Nolan went crazy. The ex players and mob that angrily and constantly demanded Anderson be hired should pay for this travesty.

[Pulled(PP)pork]

should set us up for the lottery pick as #1


PP

[Pork Twain]

I doubt anyone is getting fired this season, but that does not mean we can't be unhappy about this season.

[Breems]

Mizzou is 14th in the conference and just punted their 2nd leading scorer and point guard.

If we lose to them at home, I'll anoint HawgAdvocate to Arkansas basketball head coach.

They did just beat South Carolina, so I guess anything is possible.

[Jeffcphog]

Just hang on.  In a few years Fitz Hill's son will be here and we can be full of joy again.  Yea right.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

If Arkansas loses to Mizz. It will be the highlight of the basketball season for me to come on here and watch peoples heads explode.

[Atlhogfan1]

If Arkansas loses to Mizz. It will be the highlight of the basketball season for me to come on here and watch peoples heads explode.

The real fireworks will be if the Hogs win the next 2. 

[bkjbearcat]

Meh, if they lose to MU I think MA should get another 5 years to put his system in and recruit the right players that fit "His" system.

[hogsanity]

Mizzou is 14th in the conference and just punted their 2nd leading scorer and point guard.

If we lose to them at home, I'll anoint HawgAdvocate to Arkansas basketball head coach.

They did just beat South Carolina, so I guess anything is possible.

Auburn is 13th in the conference and just recently lost their leading scorer so..........

[The_Iceman]

Auburn is 13th in the conference and just recently lost their leading scorer so..........

You just can't make it up. What a pathetic coaching job. If he is going to quit on this team, he should just go ahead and quit his job.

[Hawg Red]

Mizzou looked like a brand new team against SC. I think they're playing for pride right now. We're....well.....not. I am half expecting to lose to the Tigers.

[bkjbearcat]

Mizzou looked like a brand new team against SC. I think they're playing for pride right now. We're....well.....not. I am half expecting to lose to the Tigers.

Half way? I'm fully expecting them to lose to MU.

[wheelspigharvey]

Won't happen so don't worry about it.

Don't jinx us

[Ironhawg]

Won't happen so don't worry about it.

I dont know. Probably wont lose his job. But to be perfectly honest, I dont really care. I had no desire to go the game last night. It was also the first game I can remember that I havent watched on TV. I looked up the score, saw we lost, chuckled a little. The last 18 years or so have been rough, but it's different now. Worse somehow.

For a lot of people, me included, CMA represented the hope that we would return to what we once were. Last year added fuel to that hope for me personally. Now with the product we are putting on the floor, I'm left to wonder what we have to look forward to as a basketball program. A new coach? That's really been working out well for us.

My care factor has officially hit 0

My care factor is still working, but after last night it is definitely lower than my blood pressure.  Lose to Mizzou and it will just step right off the cliff.

[Sivad]

You just can't make it up. What a pathetic coaching job. If he is going to quit on this team, he should just go ahead and quit his job.

$2.2 Million paycheck with no requirement to produce anything says he won't.

[ErieHog]

The sun will come up the next day, water will remain wet, and Mike Anderson will be the basketball coach to start next season.

[HogBreath]

If we lose to them at home, I'll anoint HawgAdvocate to Arkansas basketball head coach.

Would be a nice upgrade, make you his #1 assistant & recruiter. 

Now you get in there and mix it with those AAU cats.

[HogNDas]

we WILL beat mizzou at home!!!

[hobhog]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there, does it make a noise?

[lynbug]

$2.2 Million paycheck with no requirement to produce anything says he won't.

Very good point.  No one quits a 2 million dollar job.  So no need to talk about that.  May as well get ready for the domino effect from one year to the next. One unexpected disaster, recruiting year, injury, etc., whatever.......leads to another.....which leads to another........And if you don't plan for any of these things......well, you see what this year has turned out to be.

[MountieDawg]

Maybe he getting 2.2 million will keep him from quitting, but maybe he should give back a million dollars to the homeless because because of guilt.  Or just buy cots for them and let them stay in the upper deck of Bud Walton... That space should be empty for another year.

[Wild Bill Hog]

We'll win easily.

[LA Football fan]

We lose this game and Mike needs to be looking for a place to land at the end of the season period.  There would be no excuse big enough to cover that disaster.  Losing to the two worst teams in the conference at HOME to finish off a losing season should be more than enough reason to nudge him out the door.   I think we win, but right now I wouldn't put a wooden nickel on a MA coached team to win any game at the end of this season.   When he was hired I would never have predicted me feeling this way in year 5 either.  Thought he was a perfect fit but goes to show you that trying to relive past glory can be fleeting.

[Hawgphish]

I predict that if they score more points than we do, then we lose.  For real, sort of lost interest.  May be the first game this year, that I don't watch or listen to.

[root_hawg]

They won't lose and after that last loss Ill make huge money on them

[BigHog396]

I dont know. Probably wont lose his job. But to be perfectly honest, I dont really care. I had no desire to go the game last night. It was also the first game I can remember that I havent watched on TV. I looked up the score, saw we lost, chuckled a little. The last 18 years or so have been rough, but it's different now. Worse somehow.

For a lot of people, me included, CMA represented the hope that we would return to what we once were. Last year added fuel to that hope for me personally. Now with the product we are putting on the floor, I'm left to wonder what we have to look forward to as a basketball program. A new coach? That's really been working out well for us.

My care factor has officially hit 0

Pretty much where I was to start this season.  It was obvious MA's total lack of any recruiting ability had left us completely bereft of the talent it takes to run any semblance of the game he "says" he wants to run.

I mostly kept my mouth shut when he was hired, even though I only had a sliver of hope that he could get the job done here.  Anyone that has paid any attention for the last 20 years should have known that this style cannot consistently produce successful seasons anymore.  It wasn't able to the last seven years Nolan was here, and he was the absolute master of this style of ball.

Why on earth would anyone think the style could all of the sudden get it done with MA, knowing he wasn't a fraction of the personality that Nolan was?  During Nolan's first 10 seasons he demanded respect.  Whether you were talking about from his players, from his assistants, from the officials, or from the fan base.  MA doesn't have the personality to put the fear in people the way Nolan did.  When Nolan arrived our intimidation factor was every bit as much about his personality as it was the suffocating defense, and the crowds we had at Barnhill.  No one wanted to play his teams after his first season.  He was able to take a helter-skelter group of players, and put the fear of God in opponents.

Back to topic... how many people realize that Mike's conference record since he has been here is actually worse than it was at Mizzou.  At Mizzou, which was in the Big 12 at the time, having to face drastically better conference competition, he had a better record.  He's been in a watered-down SEC for five years, and hasn't done as well as he did at Mizzou.  How can anyone see that as progress?  How can anyone think that the man actually deserves another year that will only delay us getting a chance to rebuild with another coach for another 365 days?

Mike had one good year that was due to a player that would have been a Hog if any one of us had been the head coach.  Reminds me of what kept Nutt hanging on for so long.  Matt Jones pretty much single-handedly saved Nutt's job for four years, and once he was gone McFadden did the same.  Once again, two players that would have been Hogs regardless of who was the coach at the time.  Both coaches were good at giving just enough hope to make you think there was a chance, but neither are/were capable of getting us back to being consistent top 20 programs.

[BigHog396]

According to his contract, if MA is fired he is owed $1 million per year though 2020 so $4 million total buyout this year, $3 million next year and so on until 2020 and 0. Considering MA is making $2 million right now, you could hire a new guy at $1.5 million and be out 500,000 per year for the next 4 years if you wanted to make a change. I'm sure you could find a coach for $1.5 if money is tight. This isn't really a good time to fire MA given the roster and he should get 1 more chance to see what he can do for next season.  However, losing to missouri or really say dropping 5 out of 5  to close the season and it should be curtains. Barley making the ncaa tourney isn't much of a standard.

I just don't get it.  People all over the place saying that he "should" get one more chance to see what he can do.  Why, exactly, "should" he get another chance?  He's had 5 years already.  Why "should" he get another?  He's coaching a team full of his recruits, and we are nearly guaranteed a sub .500 season, and have a nauseating product on the court.  How "should" that get him another year.  In any other field of business, performance like this would get you canned.

[root_hawg]

Won 27 games last year and got to the tourney

[Wild Bill Hog]

Won 27 games last year and got to the tourney

Thanks to Portis and Qualls.  Not sure MA had all that much to do with it.

[Pork Twain]

Won 27 games last year and got to the tourney

So?  Based of his trends at his last two stops, he peaks with what was left over from the last coach and then continues to decline going forward.

[BigHog396]

Won 27 games last year and got to the tourney

Ok.  That's one good season out of five.  That doesn't give anyone a "should" get next year.

It really is amazing how far the expectations of our fan base have fallen.

Do you realize that 7 of Eddie Sutton's 11 seasons were better than that 27 win season we had last year?  Two of the four seasons he had that were worse than that were his first two seasons, and he never had a losing season while he was here.  That was with him taking over a once-proud program, that had only 1 winning season in it's previous 8 seasons.  Hell, his winning percentage for his entire 11 years here was better than what Mike was able to get for a winning percentage in the one good year people keep pointing to.  Let that sink in for just a minute.  Mike has only had 2 seasons out of 5 that were better than Eddie's worst season.

The numbers play out close to the same when you look at Nolan's first 11 seasons here, before he let things spin out of control.  Year four for Nolan was better than last year, and year five for him was a Final Four team.

I'm sorry, but one good season in five just simply does not earn you a sixth, especially if the fifth is sub .500.

[Pork Twain]

Well said BH.  I am sick of newbs trying to tell me how great MA is and how this one decent season in a very weak SEC should make us all feel.  Stop trying to force me to eat a shitsandwich and telling me it should taste like steak.

[Davidr295]

Pel got us to the tourney too and we destroyed a fairly good 25-8 Indiana team. Last year we did make it but struggled to beat Wofford........

[elksnort]

Is CMA'S 27 wins last year = Bobby's 21-5?

Goodness, how many times are we going to keep hearing this?

[root_hawg]

he isnt going anywhere until after 2018 at least

[BigHog396]

he isnt going anywhere until after 2018 at least

If that's really the case, and if he misses or barely makes the NCAAT next year, you can expect to see 3,000 - 5,000 fans in the seats at BWA every game.  The lack of attendance speaks volumes already.  If next year starts off poorly, there will be thousands of season tickets up for grabs in the lower deck.

[bphi11ips]

So what

[OperationRestoreHawgBall]

So are we saying we are good with that happening once every 5 years?

No thanks


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Won 27 games last year and got to the tourney
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[OperationRestoreHawgBall]

Bobby is the reason we won games on the road last year. Without him we are back to the norm unfortunately, and worse, bc now we aRe losing at home. Who honestly thinks the incoming class of jucos is good enough to warrant keeping MA another year?

Is CMA'S 27 wins last year = Bobby's 21-5?

Goodness, how many times are we going to keep hearing this?

[southeasthog]

Bobby is the reason we won games on the road last year. Without him we are back to the norm unfortunately, and worse, bc now we aRe losing at home. Who honestly thinks the incoming class of jucos is good enough to warrant keeping MA another year?

Please learn how to use the quote feature. Also the Bobby he is referring to is Bobby Petrino.

[rljjr]

If we lose to Mizzu I fully expect to see real fans boycotting outside BWA and warming themselves with a fire fueled by their tickets. I would say the airplane banner would come back, but nobody cares about basketball right now -- and that's worse than anger.

[The real Hogules]

I've been alright with CMA, as his teams have shown improvement each year. Coach has made his job tougher by refusing to replace assistants on his staff with better recruiters. And that problem was magnified when he had a couple of his best players, who wee underclassmen declare early and unexpectedly for last years NBA draft.
Many on here stated when Portis and Qualls declared that we were in for a terrible season, but now that their prophesy has been fulfilled they're p!$$ed about it.
With our additions to the team before next season I see no reason that we shouldn't make the NCAAT for at a minimum of 2 straight seasons.
Mike's biggest issue is his inability, or unwillingness to improve his coaching staff.

[lynbug]

Pel got us to the tourney too and we destroyed a fairly good 25-8 Indiana team. Last year we did make it but struggled to beat Wofford........

Pel didn't really get us to the tourney that year.  He accompanied  the team that Stan Heath built to the tourney.  I wasn't really a Heath fan but it did seem a bit unfair that he missed out on that.  If you don't believe me see what happened to Pel's teams in the years after.  Related to that.....Heath's selling point when we hired him was that he had made it to the Sweet Sixteen the previous year.....but that trip was with someone else's team. So.......

[WilsonHog]

To answer the OP's question, nothing will happen in terms of Mike's employment with UA.

Come on, y'all. If you're smart enough to be able to follow and converse about sports, you know how the game works. Don't let your passion override your common sense.

Y'all talk about wanting an upgrade from Mike. You know what would happen if Long fired Mike right now? No "upgrade" would give us the time of day. In fact, what you would hear is coach after coach talk about "poor Mike."

We'd be lucky to get a Stan Heath.