Hardy doubtful; Nutt whines to SEC

[DoubleJ]

You've got to be kidding me! You're using an opinionated column written by a lawyer
as your documented proof? Please!!

Trainers don't make draft decisions, NFL scouts, HCs, and Team owners do. It's their opinions
that matter and no one else.

Guv, did you read that?  It's not an opinionated column.  It's a piece written by a lawyer with quotes from people who train big time players on getting ready for the draft.  Those trainers worked for NFL teams, and know a little bit about what it takes to get to the League. 

It is not an opinion that the head trainer was mad at Nutt for calling Oher constantly, telling him to go back to school because he might not get drafted.  That happened.  Read it before you spout off, brotha.

[Mick Hogger]

Call Peyton Hillis if you need some verification about Nutt from former players. They don't all love him.

[SRFL]

Am I the only person who knows the block was legal? 

Navy did this blocking scheme the entire game versus OSU and no one said a word.

Dangerous block?  Yes.  Dirty block?  Nope.

[DoubleJ]

About Nutt, you may know more at times.  About Oher and this particular situation, I promise he doesn't know more about it than I do.

I don't know, man.  Everything I have ever read about him leaving early said he was a first round pick.

[El Puerco]

Why is he whining?  He's been looking for a Marcus Monk type excuse to have at the ready for when he starts dropping games he should win.

[Mardi Hog Gras]

He also said the team is pretty healthy and recovered from flu. I'm telling you if they weren't playing a directional school this week and a SEC team he would have said the opposite to setup an excuse as usual.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

The wheels on the bus are start'na come off, start'na come off, start'na come off.
O'h the wheels on the bus are start'na come off, down in Nutty town...

[catfish07]

Am I the only person who knows the block was legal? 

Navy did this blocking scheme the entire game versus OSU and no one said a word.

Dangerous block?  Yes.  Dirty block?  Nope.

The block is illegal. You cant engage high then hit low. You can do them at the same time but not high then low.

[Kilgor]

This is an honest question from a young fan.  If Nutt is as self-centered as so many on this board claim, then why does it seem that all of his current and past players like/love and appreciate him so much.  I personally have never heard any stories of past Arkansas or Ole Miss players complaining about Nutt's refusal to acknowledge injuries and place the players in jeopardy for personal glory.

I believe y'all, but I'd like to hear some instances/examples of Nutt putting personal success ahead of the well-being of his players, and other instances/examples of either Ole Miss or Arkansas players/past-players disliking Coach Nutt or placing them at unnecessary risk of injury/further injury.

Too many to name.  You'll have to take the word of Hog fans that have been around the last dozen years.

[SRFL]

The block is illegal. You cant engage high then hit low. You can do them at the same time but not high then low.

You need to watch it again.  And just how "low" do you call low?

[The real Hogules]

There is a difference in a dirty play and a play that should result in a penalty.

And considering that no one on this or any other board knows "for sure" what Duke Calhoun's intentions were when he attempted to make the block, I hesitate to call it a dirty play.

Illegal? Most definitely, but not necessarily intentional.

If the SEC officials had made the correct call and flagged Calhoun/Memphis for a cut block, I highly doubt that they would have removed Calhoun from the game.

Hopefully Old Myth will be able to survive SE Louisiana and that's after a bye week, without the services of Greg Hardy.

If Hardy's still unable to play after SE Louisiana then Nutt can start the shoulda-woulda-coulda talk.

[Grunt]

It's very unfortunate for Hardy.  He's an excellent player.  It does, however, allow nutty to continue lowering expectations.

i was more offended by Broyles suggesting we were perennial 8-game-best-outcome team. Anyone doesn't believe in my hogs is a heretic!

[Redman]

ASK PEYTON HILLIS NUTT CALLED NFL TEAMS SAID HE WAS A CANCER IN LOCKER ROOM COST HIM A HIGHER DRAFT SPOT ALL THE PLAYERS HE PLAYED WITH RESPECT HIS WORK ETHIC AND LEADERSHIP HE SPOKE OUT WHEN OTHERS HID

[eminem]

There is a difference in a dirty play and a play that should result in a penalty.

And considering that no one on this or any other board knows "for sure" what Duke Calhoun's intentions were when he attempted to make the block, I hesitate to call it a dirty play.

Illegal? Most definitely, but not necessarily intentional.

If the SEC officials had made the correct call and flagged Calhoun/Memphis for a cut block, I highly doubt that they would have removed Calhoun from the game.

Hopefully Old Myth will be able to survive SE Louisiana and that's after a bye week, without the services of Greg Hardy.

If Hardy's still unable to play after SE Louisiana then Nutt can start the shoulda-woulda-coulda talk.

Was this the block when Hardy went down in the first half?  I watched it a couple of times...I didn't think it was dirty at all...Unfortunate yes...but not dirty

[Michael Porkleone]

Was this the block when Hardy went down in the first half?  I watched it a couple of times...I didn't think it was dirty at all...Unfortunate yes...but not dirty

It was a chop block on the backside of a play.

It was dirty and illegal. 

Calhoun is more of a thug than Nutt!

[eminem]

It was a cut block on the backside of a play.

It was dirty and illegal. 

Calhoun is more of a thug than Nutt!

Maybe I missed that one...I saw a block on Hardy earlier in the game but didn't see anything dirty about it...I'll watch again

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

This is an honest question from a young fan.  If Nutt is as self-centered as so many on this board claim, then why does it seem that all of his current and past players like/love and appreciate him so much.  I personally have never heard any stories of past Arkansas or Ole Miss players complaining about Nutt's refusal to acknowledge injuries and place the players in jeopardy for personal glory.

I believe y'all, but I'd like to hear some instances/examples of Nutt putting personal success ahead of the well-being of his players, and other instances/examples of either Ole Miss or Arkansas players/past-players disliking Coach Nutt or placing them at unnecessary risk of injury/further injury.

ask damian williams if he loves the nutt

[Ugly Uncle]

This is an honest question from a young fan.  If Nutt is as self-centered as so many on this board claim, then why does it seem that all of his current and past players like/love and appreciate him so much.  I personally have never heard any stories of past Arkansas or Ole Miss players complaining about Nutt's refusal to acknowledge injuries and place the players in jeopardy for personal glory.

I believe y'all, but I'd like to hear some instances/examples of Nutt putting personal success ahead of the well-being of his players, and other instances/examples of either Ole Miss or Arkansas players/past-players disliking Coach Nutt or placing them at unnecessary risk of injury/further injury.

Just to name of few:  Peyton Hillis.  Seriously hurt his Jr. year.  HdN called him names (not "brother" or any other Christian name, but ones...that's right, more than one...that would make any person with class blush) when he would come of the field with that injury.  He was getting constant treatment on his thigh and kept pushing himself to try to get back.

Marcus Monk- Most know his story.

I can't think of the players name but his Grandfather passed away.  HdN got mad at him privately and even stated publicly that he was displeased because the players family wouldn't change the day of the funeral.

Damian Williams had a separated shoulder...HdN did the same to him that he did to PH.

Ben Cleveland:  He tried to do the same to him, but Ben's father got the country's leading expert to look at him in Houston TX and told him to not under any circumstances play til this was fully healed.  HdN (again) public made comments about Ben Cleveland..."I don't know what's wrong with him.  He should have been back right now.  I guess he doesn't feel like he can play through the pain."

There was a huge investigation about the amount of pain pills given to HdN's players.  In fairness, Dean Webber was involved with this before and during HdN's time here.

There were many more before the ones I just mentioned.  However, many players won't say bad things about their coach after they leave.  There are a few reasons for this.  One of the largest is that the the network that takes care of players after their playing days are done still like HdN because they could control him.  It causes problems in finding the fat cat jobs that come along after graduation.

[SRFL]

It was a chop block on the backside of a play.

It was dirty and illegal. 

Calhoun is more of a thug than Nutt!

No it wasn't. 

[eminem]

I just went and watched again and Calhoun was the first to make a block on Hardy...He hit him high on the thighs and was stretched out...The guard then pulled and hit Hardy as Calhoun was falling down his leg...

Maybe they teach this...But this is not an AU or Denver chop block...IMHO

EDIT: Went and watched again and it was the T not the guard...He checked the DT first and was covered up then went towards Hardy...Calhoun had already fell down below his knees

[Michael Porkleone]

No it wasn't. 

It wasn't what?

A chop block?  Hardy was engaged and Calhoun rolled on his leg.

Are you saying that chop blocks aren't illegal?

[SRFL]

dude, this is a chop block

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfkPSn_zTZ8

What you saw on Saturday was a chip to the freaking hip (and not from the backside)

Rebuttal? 

[Michael Porkleone]

dude, this is a chop block

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfkPSn_zTZ8

What you saw on Saturday was a chip to the freaking hip (and not from the backside)

Rebuttal? 

It was a run to the left, Calhoun motioned right and rolled into Hardy's leg while he is being blocked high - on the backside of the play.

10:13 in the Ole Miss/Memphis video. 

[Michael Porkleone]

It was a run to the left, Calhoun motioned right and rolled into Hardy's leg while he is being blocked high - on the backside of the play.

10:13 in the Ole Miss/Memphis video. 

Also, after video review the SEC agrees with me that a penalty should have been called...but what do they know, right?

[eminem]

You

It was a run to the left, Calhoun motioned right and rolled into Hardy's leg while he is being blocked high - on the backside of the play.

10:13 in the Ole Miss/Memphis video. 

Actually...Calhoun was the first to engage...He hit him in the thigh...It's clear as day...

I think you and the refs need to look again

[Michael Porkleone]

You
Actually...Calhoun was the first to engage...He hit him in the thigh...It's clear as day...

I think you and the refs need to look again

1.  The refs didn't call it.
2.  The SEC agrees with me.

"The SEC agreed a penalty should have been called but took no further actions."

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-mississippi-hardyhurt&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Michael Porkleone]

Also, for what it's worth - I was pulling for Memphis to destroy ole miss.

[El Puerco]

Oddly enough, "Duke Calhoun" is one of my pseudonyms.

[kingofdequeen]

auburn is dirty.

[hog_fan]

This is an honest question from a young fan.  If Nutt is as self-centered as so many on this board claim, then why does it seem that all of his current and past players like/love and appreciate him so much.  I personally have never heard any stories of past Arkansas or Ole Miss players complaining about Nutt's refusal to acknowledge injuries and place the players in jeopardy for personal glory.

I believe y'all, but I'd like to hear some instances/examples of Nutt putting personal success ahead of the well-being of his players, and other instances/examples of either Ole Miss or Arkansas players/past-players disliking Coach Nutt or placing them at unnecessary risk of injury/further injury.

Peyton Hillis is one example. He dogged him to NFL scouts causing him to be drafted late. Yes, some like him because he is a players coach and wants to be their friend. He also tried to force Ben C into play his second year even though he wasn't healthy. Do you really expect players to just come out and talk about this. Michael Coe is another example. Monk is another example. He should have told him to redshirt. He kept bugging him and talked him into returning his Senior Season. That's just a couple examples, but players aren't just going to tell their stories in the open.

[Michael Porkleone]

auburn is dirty.

Yes they were - haven't watched them this year though...are they still a knees worst enemy?

[SRFL]

1.  The refs didn't call it.
2.  The SEC agrees with me.

"The SEC agreed a penalty should have been called but took no further actions."

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-mississippi-hardyhurt&prov=ap&type=lgns

That's your proof?  This is why you say it was a chop block?

We'll just leave this one alone.  Have a good one.

[HognotinMemphis]

About Nutt, you may know more at times.  About Oher and this particular situation, I promise he doesn't know more about it than I do.

Are you Sean Tuohy? Because I know Sean and his wife fairly well. And unless you know them fairly well too, you don't know what I know.

[RedRock]

NCAA should penalize Ole Miss for hiring such an idiot

[12247]

Nutt may play Hardy this coming game even though it likely would be in the best interest of the player to sit the game out.  Nutt did that to D-mac in 08.  Nutt playing D-mac in a one back offense with no prayer of passing allowed the entire defense to dog pile D-mac.  D-mac got his ribs brusied, cracked, spread, etc.  Of course D-mac wanted to play and Nutt leaned on that instead of doing the right thing and holding him out of the gimme games at least.  If OM needs Hardy to play to win this coming game, then they need to lose.  Hardy should sit and rest his foot and ankle if its brusied up badly.

[Broomehog38]

 I have heard the complaints about what Nutt said but what do you think he should have said. Is Ole Miss that depth deprived that they cant win without 1 player if so than they will have some wheels come off. Nutt made us 1 dimensional in his inability to recruit a wr and his overall depth recruiting. He couldnt recruit for depth. Petrino has achieved depth at Arkansas in 1 and half seasons of recruiting. Good luck ole miss and i hope your player becomes healthy.

[Porkette]

It's my wish that no player gets sick or injured. 

Almost all decent Razorback fans share this sentiment. That's why, like pretty much all fan bases, we clap for any injured players on our field. I never wish illness or injury on anyone.


As far as Nutt's players loving him, that's true of a lot of them (definitely not all) but he's a rah-rah coach who's relatively easy on players and gives tons of praise constantly. As far as them having respect for him and him having total control of his team, that always appeared to be a different matter.

[razorbrass]

I'm not a Nutt fan, but it was a dirty block.  Even the SEC agreed "SEC agreed a penalty should have been called but took no further actions."

I think its funny Nutt wants the SEC office to so something - this is the same SEC he basically thumbed his nose at when he put his brother in the press box here and on the sideline at Ole Mrs.  What a hypocrite.

[Justifiable Hogicide]

It's just Nutt being Nutt.
Already putting excuses out there just in case someone might criticize his (#5 -what a hoot!) team's upcoming showing against mighty SE Louisiana.

[DEVIL DOG HOG]

When Georgia played at Oklahoma State, SEC referees called the game. Maybe SEC referees called the Memphis game.

[Albert Einswine]

Are you Sean Tuohy? Because I know Sean and his wife fairly well. And unless you know them fairly well too, you don't know what I know.

There's a potential burn!  LOL!   

[Justifiable Hogicide]

Maybe SEC referees called the Memphis game.

Probably did.
The way Paul Petrisko (SEC official) saved Nutt in Fayetteville last year with the phantom OPI "call", Nutt should be the last person complaining about their "work".

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Probably did.
The way Paul Petrisko (SEC official) saved Nutt in Fayetteville last year with the phantom OPI "call", Nutt should be the last person complaining about their "work".

That's a BIG 10-4...

Still makes me sick. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agz71kE8IM4