Chris Ash to Rutgers

[Nuttcracker, Sweet!]

according to coaching search, Chris Ash to Rutgers:

http://www.coachingsearch.com/article?a=Chris-Ash-to-be-named-Rutgers-head-coach

where was this "Rugby-style tackling in 2013?

[King Kong]

Great hire



Sarcasm

[Three and Snout]

where was this "Rugby-style tackling in 2013?

The video hadn't been released yet. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Pete-Carrolls-tackling-video-changed-everything-for-Ohio-State

[jackflash]

I would hope Rutgers could do better

[Pig in the Pokey]

#FailHire.com

[jgphillips3]

The video hadn't been released yet. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Pete-Carrolls-tackling-video-changed-everything-for-Ohio-State

Obviously. 

...by our results...

[RazorRed26]

Did they look at Greg Schiano at all?

[Iwastherein1969]

Ash is where he needs to be...the SEC absolutely overwhelmed him...in no way was he prepared for what was about to hit him right between the eyes

[DoubleReedHawgCaller]

So......

[MuskogeeHogFan]

according to coaching search, Chris Ash to Rutgers:

http://www.coachingsearch.com/article?a=Chris-Ash-to-be-named-Rutgers-head-coach

where was this "Rugby-style tackling in 2013?

What? Not Brent Venables? Disaster.

[King Kong]

What? Not Brent Venables? Disaster.

Wouldn't take that. I heard he is next in line to take over bill belichick

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Ash is where he needs to be...the SEC absolutely overwhelmed him...in no way was he prepared for what was about to hit him right between the eyes

Talent makes many coaches look like geniuses.  He was great at tOSU playing in the Big10.

[King Kong]

Talent makes many coaches look like geniuses.  He was great at tOSU playing in the Big10.

He wasn't calling plays at OSU

[FBREW000]

Rutgers.. from the AD all the way down is a dumpster fire right now.  Bleeding $$ and terribly ran!

[Bubba's Bruisers]

He wasn't calling plays at OSU

I'm sure he wasn't.  So?

[Sed76]

Can we get these guys back on the schedule? Makes me sick we lost to Rutgers two freaking years in a row.

[Wildhog]

NOW can we play Rutgers? 

[longpig]

I'm sure he wasn't.  So?

He was also the co DC at Ohio St., Luke Fickell's helper.

[Wildhog]

He was also the co DC at Ohio St., Luke Fickell's helper.

"Assistant Defensive Coordinator?"

"No, assistant TO the defensive coordinator."

[redeye]

The video hadn't been released yet. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Pete-Carrolls-tackling-video-changed-everything-for-Ohio-State

I saw that video a few weeks ago and have been wondering if we'll start tackling that way.  I watched for it during our last few games, and while we didn't seem to be doing it, I think it would have helped with all our missed tackles.  I never played much football myself, but I thought that was how they taught tackling and was surprised to learn that it's a new technique.  You used to always hear announcers speak of "wrapping up the legs", but I guess that wasn't considered proper, until now?

I wonder how much rugby tackling played into Ohio State dominating Alabama last year?  IIRC, they tackled them very well.  Maybe it explains why Ash is suddenly having success, after struggling here?  Considering we have connections to Ash and Carroll, maybe we should check into it?

[hog.goblin]

Rutgers.. from the AD all the way down is a dumpster fire right now.  Bleeding $$ and terribly ran!

Seems like a rash decision you made on the AD.  I think he'll turn things around.

[King Kong]

I'm sure he wasn't.  So?

So,  it's impossible to tell how much better he was at OSU. As he was the DC there in title only

[Hoggish1]

Mr. Personality!

[ZERO]

RIP Rutgers football. Not that it was anything to brag about beforehand.

[LZH]

I don't think there's any question why our defense got better after Ash left and Smith was hired.

[longpig]

Mr. Personality!

a real charmer

[Hog N Bama]

Ash is where he needs to be...the SEC absolutely overwhelmed him...in no way was he prepared for what was about to hit him right between the eyes

I couldn't have said it better. Dude was lost.

[Hogarusa]

Ash had 1 year at Arkansas during a disaster year and you act like he could never possibly succeed again.  Simpletons

[Dr. Starcs]

Dumb ash

[Bubba's Bruisers]

He was also the co DC at Ohio St., Luke Fickell's helper.

Yes. 

[greenie]

IMHO, not the best hire.  I don't think he has the personality to be a head coach, not to mention recruit.  I just don't get this hire, but good luck to him.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

So,  it's impossible to tell how much better he was at OSU. As he was the DC there in title only

Point being is he ran back to the talent in a conference with little competition.  Nothing about his resume suggests HC material.  maybe I'm missing something,

[Hogarusa]

Point being is he ran back to the talent in a conference with little competition.  Nothing about his resume suggests HC material.  maybe I'm missing something,

Little competition? Its like people in Hogville only watch SEC football.  how do you not notice how far off the SEC was this year

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Little competition? Its like people in Hogville only watch SEC football.  how do you not notice how far off the SEC was this year

I'm suggesting that tOSU hasn't had much competition.  They've generally been able to out talent everyone while he's been there.  Nobody in the Big10 really comes close to their overall talent...at least not in the last few years.  Ain't so easy at UA. 

The SEC is absolutely down.  Like last year.  Primarily due to poor QB play.  You give Bama just a competent QB, then nobody beats them.  As it stands now, they won't win the NC this season.

[Hog N Bama]

Ash had 1 year at Arkansas during a disaster year and you act like he could never possibly succeed again.  Simpletons

1 year too many. One year for everyone including Coach B to determine it ain't gonna work.

[ChicoHog]

Point being is he ran back to the talent in a conference with little competition.  Nothing about his resume suggests HC material.  maybe I'm missing something,

Uh, the Big 10 has 3 of the top 6 teams in the playoff rankings.  They are top heavy for sure but there is some darn good teams in that league.   The East has Ohio st, Mich st and michigan.  West is weak except for Iowa. 

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Uh, the Big 10 has 3 of the top 6 teams in the playoff rankings.  They are top heavy for sure but there is some darn good teams in that league.   The East has Ohio st, Mich st and michigan.  West is weak except for Iowa. 

And one again, I'm not talking about this year.  I'm talking about the last 5.  Of course, just realized he wasn't at t OSU before.  Thought he was.

[presidenthog]

I saw that video a few weeks ago and have been wondering if we'll start tackling that way.  I watched for it during our last few games, and while we didn't seem to be doing it, I think it would have helped with all our missed tackles.  I never played much football myself, but I thought that was how they taught tackling and was surprised to learn that it's a new technique.  You used to always hear announcers speak of "wrapping up the legs", but I guess that wasn't considered proper, until now?

I wonder how much rugby tackling played into Ohio State dominating Alabama last year?  IIRC, they tackled them very well.  Maybe it explains why Ash is suddenly having success, after struggling here?  Considering we have connections to Ash and Carroll, maybe we should check into it?

now look we have a systematic approach  and honestly I'm not sure that it is far off from rugby style tackling. we just go further into the steps if the rugby style isn't available.

The first thing we do is "bite the ball: which means that we are trying to put our facemask into the ball (which is an attempt at causing a turnover, but also would mean we would be shoulder tackling. because the ball when being held is at the side of the body/chest, which means our players shoulder would be striking across the chest, and we are taking the head out of the equation)

step 2 "wrap the waist or hip" if biting the ball isn't an option we wrap the waist, which also is apart of the rugby style tackling and it means we aren't using our head either.

3rd if option 1 or 2 isn't feasible we  "wrap and roll" where we try wrapping a hand around the ankle of the player while rolling (somersault/barrel roll) to continue our momentum safely, and give us the least likely chance of causing an injuring while diving.

I actually thought about the exact same thing you said. after I thought about our approach I realized it is already the same thing, but called different things. also it is a much more detailed and systematic approach.

I hope this helps answer your question.

[SPAL]

I'm suggesting that tOSU hasn't had much competition.  They've generally been able to out talent everyone while he's been there.  Nobody in the Big10 really comes close to their overall talent...at least not in the last few years.  Ain't so easy at UA. 

The SEC is absolutely down.  Like last year.  Primarily due to poor QB play.  You give Bama just a competent QB, then nobody beats them.  As it stands now, they won't win the NC this season.

I think Coker is the reason they will win it all.

[Cure]

Must've been a terrible coach.

[HawgTide]

Must've been a terrible coach.

I'm sure the Rutgers fans are super excited

[jbcarol]

https://twitter.com/BennettESPN/status/673942870815059968

[DeltaBoy]

Good for Coach Ash.

[woodrow hog call]

"Assistant Defensive Coordinator?"

"No, assistant TO the defensive coordinator."

+1 for the Office reference, makes me laugh everytime I think about that one. I have actually thought about using that at work for a promotion, just not sure if HR would go for it, they have to mess up everything.

[PorkRinds]

I don't think Ash was as bad as many make him out to be.  Think about this.  Robb Smith had a great defense last season, but this season it looked a lot like what Ash put on the field.  Could it be that Ash wasn't nearly as bad as our talent/depth deficit made him look?  OSU and Rutgers seem to believe so.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

I miss Rutgers al.  He was a ray of Yankee sunshine.