Shining Example from Today's Jonesboro Sun

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

It may not have been Ruby Tuesdays, one knows how stories get changed from person to person
but it did happen in a restaurant in Jonesboro. I am originally from NEA, lived there a BIG part of my life and graduated from Greene County Tech in Paragould. My wife and I have a large number of relatives still living in the Jonesboro area. I know personally of some clothing merchants who were
threatened for daring to sell Razorback clothing. I was in Cracker Barrell, where they have a display of Razorback items for sale along with ASU stuff and watched in shock as a man wearing ASU clothing berated an employee loud enough that you could hear it all over the restaurant, demanding that she remove all of the Razorback stuff from the restaurant immediately. The manager finally had him escorted out telling him not to come back. Needless to say, the display is still there.

I wasn't really insinuating that it wasnt ruby tuesdays. I was just remembering it mainly having local high school stuff everywhere and thought that was kind of cool.

I'm glad I never saw anyone throwing a fit over something so stupid. I don't put it passed anyone though. I worked in a restaurant for a while. People completely lose their minds when they walk through restaurant doors. I think the world would be a better place if everyone had to work in the food industry for at least 6 months.

[DizzyHawgFan]

The reason I would assume he cared is because most Arkansas fans root for ASU too.  That's how I use to be until I discovered their deep hatred and jealousy of the University of Arkansas.  All it took for me to start hating ASU was a  trip to the tribal grounds message board. 

I don't think it was ever as "heated" as it was in the mid to late 80s when I was at ASU during the "How Long Can the Hogs Run?" era and I still don't think there was any deep hatred or jealousy.   

Sure some people (on both sides) get a little overzealous at times, but those are the exception.   

[Pork Twain]

It's panty wastes, you ignorant tool.

What an idiot...  Learn how to spell before you call someone out.

Waste is garbage
Waist is the area below your ribs and above your privates

[astate]

No, you're incorrect ...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pantywaist

dorkanddiana must be a UA grad. 

[Brownie Tuggle]

How many times do we have to go over the reason that Arkansas will not play Astate??

Every team that Arkansas plays in the Sun Belt that is out of state,  they have the potential to gain the attention of a recruit in that area.  Who does A-State have in their area that we would have trouble recruiting?  No one!  Goof Ball, this is the reason, that we would play everybody else in the Sun Belt except A-State. 

See ya

ULM brings 12 people for thier HOME GAME IN LITTLE ROCK to play the Hogs. Boy thats pulling in the recruites from Louisiana BIG TIME!!  Kids in Monroe are begging to be a HOG!!! Step away from your car sir and put down the crack pipe!!

[FedHog]

When was this? I was in that Ruby Tuesdays a week after it opened and I only saw high school stuff.

UCA did the same thing to a bank in Conway.Thats a little different than just some random people I guess. Im sure UCA puts tons of money in that bank. 

I lived in Jonesboro for 6 year 98-04 while I was in college and I just didnt see the hate for the razorbacks many of you are claiming. I had a hog license plate on the front of my car and wore plenty of razorback stuff and I never heard a single negative comment towards my hog "fandom".  I think some of you must have just been going around looking for an argument.

Even if I did hear negative comments it wouldnt bother me. Just because you are from or live in arkansas doesnt mean you have to love the razorbacks. And i dont get why that offends some of you. There are probably 70,000 people in jonesboro while ASU is in session, God forbid not all of them worship the Razorbacks.

I lived in Jonesboro 86-92 and graduated from ASU.  I quit being an ASU fan the day the Inidan fans were laughing about Yvonne Richardson dying of leukemia.

[pikehog]

Thats a nice thought, but it is never going to happen.  SOME ASU fans are very disrespectful and hateful towards the hogs and the fans.  There is no reason to play that team or help them in any way.

And there are hog fans that hate ASU for no reason at all. The sports world is full of morons.

[pikehog]

Every time the Hogs suck ASU wants a piece of the Hogs and this year is no different. They won't want to play the Hogs once Petrino gets the players that he needs, so who cares what they think.

I think you are wrong. ASU wants to play UA no matter how good the team is.

UA is the one that is scared to play them, all the reasons listed to not play (not good enough school, will hurt recruiting, will give ASU credibility) are all rooted in fear of losing and nothing else. Convince yourself otherwise if you want but it;s the truth.

I am a Hog fan first, and every other Arkansas team second. I realize the world is bigger than one team and I enjoy all of Arkansas doing well.

[hoghearted]

I lived in Jonesboro 86-92 and graduated from ASU.  I quit being an ASU fan the day the Inidan fans were laughing about Yvonne Richardson dying of leukemia.

Wow. I was on campus in '87 and never heard anything like that.

Please don't paint the whole fanbase (not that I consider myself an ASU fan) with that brush. That kind of sentiment is just sick.

[MountieDawg]

OK   I went to ASU and again I root for both now that the NUTTS are gone... Excited about what Petrino is bringing to the hogs...  But if ASU mentions trying to grow fans it pisses off most Razorback fans... When you have state wide radio shows that say they will not talk about ASU because they are irrelevant...  It would take a call about Chalerston and Green Forest before it would talk about ASU... And you wonder why some there get defensive...  Could you imagine if it was the other way...

[Sivad]

Arkansas State is the best team in the state.

The "Little Red Riding Wolves" still feeling their oats and slamming the Hogs, even after they lost at home to some unknown team.

"A shining example" of their complete and total obsession with hating the Razorbacks.

[Ugly Uncle]

The "how long will the hogs run" bumper stickers everywhere wears on you after a while.

ASU had a good team back then.  Larry Lacewell took us to the title game against Georgia Southern I believe.  Got beat by their QB named Hamm.  They said the ran the Hamm bone.  Blew ASU out.  Than may have been the last game I ever cheered heart and sould for ASU.

I hope ASU beats everybody outside of the state, but if they do lose, I just don't care.  I will tell them how stupid it is for UofA to ever play them.  No need for it.

[Ceba]

How is that average attendance going for the Indians (or whatever)?
Is it up to about 10K now?  Get that up to an average of about 40K then we'll play you.  Until then enjoy the low state support & play UCA.  Just quit complaining about Arkansas' team.

[Ceba]

My question is this:  Why would ASU want to play ARKANSAS?  The only reason is that it would help their program.  It can't be money.  They can get the same pay as they would when playing A&M, Ole Miss, & others.  They simply know that the only way they can grow their program is to play the Hogs and beat them once.  We all know that once every 20 years they could beat us.  That one time would be a tremendous help for their program.  So the question becomes:  Why would ARKANSAS want to play ASU?  There is no reason.  It can do nothing but hurt the RAZORBACKS.  It's amazing that ASU fans don't understand this or maybe they do but they don't want to give it up.
Remember the 86 basketball season when they had one of their best teams ever & ARKANSAS had one of its worst ever & they still got beat. 
YOU'LL ALWAYS JUST BE ASU.  Enjoy this good year in football because you'll be back to where you always have been by next year.

[Bacons Rebellion]

The BAC is inhabited by a bunch of panty waists.

It's telling that even SgtPepper knows what BAC stands for. I don't even know what ASU's stadium is called and my Dad played football there (and because of that, I always want ASU to win).

[densmith1]

We are all Arkansas citizens.  Accordingly, I will continue to pull for all schools in the State until, of course, until we play any of them.

Actually, we are Arkansas residents and citizens of the USA.

[PolishPigPower]

BCS school?  WTH...

Well, remember now, they almost won their first NCAA title this past spring, but the women's bowling team fell short in the championship game.  BCS = Bowling Championship Series  (or at least that's how it is in J'boro)

[PolishPigPower]

Then why does Colorado play Colorado State each year? Why does LSU play ULM or Tulane or another in-state school each year? Why does Texas play UTEP?

Why does it seem like Arkansas is the only state with at least two DI programs where there's not an intrastate game?

ASU will have a lot better ground to preach from about this when they stop avoiding UCA.  UCA nearly beat their butts when the Bears were D-II, and now the Scarlet Doglike Creatures avoid them like the plague.

[DizzyHawgFan]

I quit being an ASU fan the day the Inidan fans were laughing about Yvonne Richardson dying of leukemia.

I'm not saying some morons somewhere in NEA didn't laugh at that, but make no mistake... lots of Hog fans did the same thing. 

[DizzyHawgFan]

How many times do we have to go over the reason that Arkansas will not play Astate??

Every team that Arkansas plays in the Sun Belt that is out of state,  they have the potential to gain the attention of a recruit in that area.  Who does A-State have in their area that we would have trouble recruiting?  No one!  Goof Ball, this is the reason, that we would play everybody else in the Sun Belt except A-State. 

If UA is using the Sun Belt conference as the catapault to perennial powerhouse then we are seriously screwed.

[Albert Einswine]

Actually, we are Arkansas residents and citizens of the USA.

It looks like you've taken the revisionism hook, line and sinker.

[UAfanatic]

This is something I don't get. I think Ive asked it before but why do so many people here have a problem with Jonesboro? I'd imagine many of you bashing Jonesboro haven't been their in a while. I thought it was a really nice place when i lived there. Now when I go back its almost looks like a completely new place and I've only been gone for 4 years. 

This has been written here before, but the core of the problem bares repeating.

Most Razorback fans root for all the other teams in the state..

But the step-child mentality of Arkansas State fans has them rooting for A-state and
anyone playing against Arkansas.

This doesn't really come to an infectious puss-filled head but once every 15 years or so..
when they have a decent team.. and by happen stance  we have a down year..

You would not of have them clamoring to play last year's team with all the runningback talent.

Personally, I still root for Indian Joe, but would rather not talk to any of their fans.

[DizzyHawgFan]

But the step-child mentality of Arkansas State fans has them rooting for A-state and
anyone playing against Arkansas.

Dude that just is not true. Not saying there aren't any that are that way, but by and large what you said is just not true.  I grew up in NEA, went to ASU for 4 years.  I rooted against the Hogs once... when ASU & UA played in the NIT.  That was half-hearted because I had friends on the Indians roster. 

[Eggcellent]

I don't remember that one but I do remember one where a party of 4 went in to Ruby Tuesdays
in Jonesboro one night to eat dinner and spotted U of A stuff hanging on one wall. One of the men got up and demanded to see the restaurant manager and red him the riot act until he took the
Hog stuff down. He even threatened to close the place down if the Manager didn't comply. I wish
I had the money to open up a restaurant in Jonesboro, fill it from one end to the other with Hog
stuff, and double dare one of them suckers to come in and just try to make me take it down!!!! You'd see a guy wearing a T shirt with a BIG Hog on tryin' his best to whip
some red wolf BUTT!!!!

I was in Ruby Tuesday's Last season in Jonesboro, and They had a few hogs things up and I watched the end of the Hog game on TV as I had dinner, after ASU won their game.

PS there was a table of ASU players and their families at the table next to us.  They watched to game and cheered for the Hogs also.

[Eggcellent]

I have a friend who is a big ASU fan.  My daughter goes to school there.

I have seen many Razorbacks shirts at their games.  99% don't harass anyone wearing hog stuff.

But there are a few in their Tribal Grounds area.

If your go looking for a haters you can find a few, but if you don't you probably won't.

I saw more Hog plates, in Jonesboro, than any other team including high school.  It's not the big deal everyone is making it out to be. 

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

This has been written here before, but the core of the problem bares repeating.

Most Razorback fans root for all the other teams in the state..

But the step-child mentality of Arkansas State fans has them rooting for A-state and
anyone playing against Arkansas.

This doesn't really come to an infectious puss-filled head but once every 15 years or so..
when they have a decent team.. and by happen stance  we have a down year..

You would not of have them clamoring to play last year's team with all the runningback talent.

Personally, I still root for Indian Joe, but would rather not talk to any of their fans.

I was actually talking about the city of jonesboro.

I really don't care if the Hogs play ASU, in football at least. They play plenty of BCS conference teams with just as high or higher profile (nationally) than the Hogs. 

And now the Sun Belt is starting to move up in status with more bowl tie ins and actually beating some of BCS teams they play it doesn't really even matter.

My biggest problem with this whole argument is the media and the people that try to act like ASU isnt a D-I program. They aren't a cellardwelling team in a bottom feeding conference anymore. And for the state media to barely acknowledge ASU's exsistence is ridiculous. I'm not saying they should have as much coverage as the Hogs but how about a little more than one article 8 pages deep in the sports section. In the Democrat Gazette ASU gets just a little more coverage than they do on the ESPNNEWS scroll. 

On the other hand, I think basketball and other sports should play, it would make more sense. But I also think the Hogs should play UALR, UCA, and UABP. Maybe not all in the same year but some. I think some sort of tournament at Alltel with maybe a one or two more top teams outside Arkansas mixed in.

[Man_O_Pork]

Arkansas doesn't have anything to gain from playing, ULM, W. Illinois, or Tulsa either.  Yet they play them.  Fact, Arkansas has played every team in the Sunbelt Conference except for Arkansas State.  If they aren't any different why don't we play them? 

The truth is that it is more out of fear of losing than anything else.  There is no legitimate reason that Arkansas should NOT play Arkansas state, other than fear of being upset.  That is the truest part of it. 

It goes deeper than that.  From a business perspective, why would you want to split a fan base by playing an in-state rival, when right now, the U of A can have its cake and eat it too.

I grew up and NEA, and most of my family members were both Hogs and Indians fans.  If UA and ASU play each other, I think you'd see some of the casual Hogs fans in that part of the state drop off and become solely ASU fans.  Right now, the Razorbacks have a presence in every part of the state, and have plenty of fans in NEA who are casual supporters of both programs.  If the schools started playing one another, I think the U of A would run the risk of losing some of those fans/merchandising/exposure.

[saturnthegiant]

It goes deeper than that.  From a business perspective, why would you want to split a fan base by playing an in-state rival, when right now, the U of A can have its cake and eat it too.

I grew up and NEA, and most of my family members were both Hogs and Indians fans.  If UA and ASU play each other, I think you'd see some of the casual Hogs fans in that part of the state drop off and become solely ASU fans.  Right now, the Razorbacks have a presence in every part of the state, and have plenty of fans in NEA who are casual supporters of both programs.  If the schools started playing one another, I think the U of A would run the risk of losing some of those fans/merchandising/exposure.

Yes, and that's what is scary isn't it?  That the Hogs might not get to have their cake and eat it too?  C'mon, people have already made up their minds about this game, if it ever occurs.  You can't seriously think that the Hogs would lose a bunch of fans because of one game- it wouldn't even be a rivalry.....maybe if they were in the same conference.  The sad reality is that this state is so stagnant that in many people's minds there is no room for another team to have any success, just the Hogs.  The endless arguments will never run out, and when they do, well then people start bringing up UCA. This isn't about UCA.  If and when UCA become div. 1A, won't they be gunning for a game with the Hogs also?  If you think different, visit their board.  Why does anyone think ASU will shy away from playing UCA?  Especially since, if UCA becomes Div.1A, they'd probably be in the Sun Belt also.

[GuvHog]

I was in Ruby Tuesday's Last season in Jonesboro, and They had a few hogs things up and I watched the end of the Hog game on TV as I had dinner, after ASU won their game.

PS there was a table of ASU players and their families at the table next to us.  They watched to game and cheered for the Hogs also.

That's the point I was making. The vast majority of ASU fans are fine people who also pull for the Hogs. There's just that very small minority of ASU fans who live to hate the Hogs. I too have attended a couple of ASU home games. Once I went to an ASU game and wore headphones to listen to the Hog broadcast. people all around me would continuously ask me the score and when I would say the Hogs are ahead they would say that's good hope they win!

[chiefsfan]

ASU will have a lot better ground to preach from about this when they stop avoiding UCA.  UCA nearly beat their butts when the Bears were D-II, and now the Scarlet Doglike Creatures avoid them like the plague.

Yeah that 24 point win over maybe the worst UAPB team this decade really has us scared...    ASU would beat UCA by at least 25 in football.    If you want to look at fright, better off looking at Mens Basketball and Baseball where until recently, ASU seemed destined for bad things

[chiefsfan]

It goes deeper than that.  From a business perspective, why would you want to split a fan base by playing an in-state rival, when right now, the U of A can have its cake and eat it too.

I grew up and NEA, and most of my family members were both Hogs and Indians fans.  If UA and ASU play each other, I think you'd see some of the casual Hogs fans in that part of the state drop off and become solely ASU fans.  Right now, the Razorbacks have a presence in every part of the state, and have plenty of fans in NEA who are casual supporters of both programs.  If the schools started playing one another, I think the U of A would run the risk of losing some of those fans/merchandising/exposure.

Sure, if you lost...   Most ASU fans would tell you that you guys would beat us 19 times out of 20.    This year just happens to be one of the years that ASU just might be better

Its an anytime, anywhere, anyplace sort of deal

[Eggcellent]

ASU will have a lot better ground to preach from about this when they stop avoiding UCA.  UCA nearly beat their butts when the Bears were D-II, and now the Scarlet Doglike Creatures avoid them like the plague.

I am a UCA alum.  ASU did play us, and we don't have a problem with them not playing UCA.

ASU is not avoiding us, but when you can get mega $$$$$ for playing A&M and Bama, and $0.00 to play UCA what would you do?