Arkansas State = New Mascot!

[razorrog1]

Arkansas State = Who cares

I bet both of their fans care.

[BigDeal]

Some of ASU's past mascot names have included "Aggies"(1911) , "Gorillas" (1925), and "Warrirors" (1930), and Indians(1931-Present).

Personally, I think it would be fun to have Aggies in the state.

[BartIV]

Arkansas St. Engines

[BrooklynRoss]

They should change it to the Arkansas State Genecidal Occupants.

[WindyCityHog]

ASU...they should capitalize on the Ivorybilled woodpecker "craze"...

South Carolina style.

Kids all over would be wearing "Pecker" ballcaps...like the "Cocks" reference...

The ASU Woodpeckers....

A marketing lotto..

The Peckers.

Think about it.

[BigDeal]

ASU...they should capitalize on the Ivorybilled woodpecker "craze"...

South Carolina style.

Kids all over would be wearing "Pecker" ballcaps...like the "Cocks" reference...

The ASU Woodpeckers....

A marketing lotto..

The Peckers.

Think about it.

That is an original name for a sports team and I agree with you. This should  be seriously considered.

"Go Peckers Go!" ... When they play the Longhorns in the first game, banners can  read, "You can't hook our Peckers" . The conference game with the Troy Trojans could make for some interesting marketing slogans as well.

[billypig]

ASU...they should capitalize on the Ivorybilled woodpecker "craze"...

South Carolina style.

Kids all over would be wearing "Pecker" ballcaps...like the "Cocks" reference...

The ASU Woodpeckers....

A marketing lotto..

The Peckers.

Think about it.

So would the ballcaps be called "Pecker" Heads?

[Wu Tang Clan]

The Board of Trustees just voted to get rid of the nickname "Indian" & "Indian Family".......

http://www.asuindians.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7200&ATCLID=925876

The city of Jonesboro doesnt seem to really care! What would Fayetteville and the state of Arkansas do if the University of Arkansas was forced to change from the hogs to something else!?!?! How would you personally feel??

I am all for forcing schools to change their names.  That jumping joe character was absolutely ridiculous.  I think that professional teams such as the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians should make changes as well.  If there was a team called the black or white skins all hell would break loose.  Try wearing that ridiculous Cleveland Indians hat on the reservation and see how long you will make it.  Native Americans are people with a culture and should not be someone's mascot.  It would be different if native Americans were not offended, but many Native Americans are offended by these mascots. 

[pignatious]

They should go with Ivory Billed Woodpeckers. Great idea. That would be representative of the state. Then they could schedule a series with South Carolina.

[Porquer4life]

They should let the students decide like they did at UC Santa Cruz:

http://www.ucsc.edu/about/campus_mascot.asp

[YepItsMe]

My fiance is a big majority indian and still involved with the tribe and she told me it wasn't the NCAA that decided this.  The the indian tribes were forcing the NCAA to abolish it because it was disrespectful to them.  Because some school made the indian mascot look like an idiot.

[razorrog1]

ASU...they should capitalize on the Ivorybilled woodpecker "craze"...

South Carolina style.

Kids all over would be wearing "Pecker" ballcaps...like the "Cocks" reference...

The ASU Woodpeckers....

A marketing lotto..

The Peckers.

Think about it.

That's actually not bad.  I'm guessing Rome and Cowherd would have a field day with it.  Would the colors be "Viagra blue"? 

[HeathWimp]

ASU...they should capitalize on the Ivorybilled woodpecker "craze"...

South Carolina style.

Kids all over would be wearing "Pecker" ballcaps...like the "Cocks" reference...

The ASU Woodpeckers....

A marketing lotto..

The Peckers.

Think about it.

That is an original name for a sports team and I agree with you. This should  be seriously considered.

"Go Peckers Go!" ... When they play the Longhorns in the first game, banners can  read, "You can't hook our Peckers" . The conference game with the Troy Trojans could make for some interesting marketing slogans as well.

This was surprisingly crass, coming from you BigDeal.

Welcome to the club.

[HairyHog]

The Inmates are in control of the asylum.

[Hoggy Hogalot]

How about "The ASU Fightin Tribal Casinos".

[softballguy8]

How about the wannabes? The pretenders? perennial losers? Those all work.

[Blue35]

How about the wannabes? The pretenders? perennial losers? Those all work.

That group in Jonesboro is the biggest bunch of wannabes that I have ever seen. I think that they have eaten way too much catfish.  There are more catfish houses in Jonesboro than any place I have ever been.  They eat it three times a day and four times on Sunday.

Maybe they should change the name of ASU to a directional school such as N E Ark and call themselves the catfish.  NE Ark Catfish. Or maybe just close the place up.

[THHAWG]

So much hatred for a school Frank won't play?

[4thdownnutt]

I thought asu was in arizona.

[Seminole-Indian]

     First of all I would just like to state that I am as big a hog fan as the rest of you. since the day I was old enough to think about my college career I wanted to go to Fayetteville and be a razorback. Unfortunately I was not blessed with the resources to afford to live there so I was forced to consider other options. I am now an Indian. Jonesboro is only about 30 minutes from where I live so I am able to live at home while I attend school. I am still a razorback fan and always will be, but I also cheer for the Indians. It pains me to see my fellow hog fans put down ASU while there are so many here that cheer the hogs on. I am an athletic training major at ASU so I am around these student-athletes a lot; especially the football team. I see the hard work they go through everyday during spring practices, two-a-days, and the season and to see comments like HOGish made makes me sick. Yes HOGish, we have athletics, and while they are not as skilled and renowned as the hogs they still work hard to be the best they can be. And no Newport Hog, we are not a joke and the Indian athletes do not want to be called razorbacks because they are proud Indians. In fact, the majority of our athletes cheer on the hogs just as I do. bd39 is correct. Most of jonesboro does not care about the Indians because they care about the hogs. I wish they would care about both. I hate seeing the stands only half full at games and I wish we could have more support here. The few Indian fans who believe that ASU should play Arkansas are wrong. That is two different levels of skill and talent, and exactly why I cannot understand why the two sides cannot pull for each other. Some do, like me, but a lot don't as some of you have proven in this thread. I not pulling for absolute love of the Indians here. All I want is for some people here to show a little more respect for ASU's student athletes instead of making fun that they don't exist, and a little more respect for ASU students like myself whom study and earn their education instead of this:

Not disrespecting the Razorback but you are not telling the truth.

Yes there are a lot of Razorback fans everywhere in Arkansas, including Jonesboro, especially if your definition of a fan is a person who will buy a hat at Wal-Mart or talk about them at the local coffee shop then yes, ASU does not have a big piece of this "target market"., which includes the bulk of my family. If you mean a person that will support a team financially or attend an athletic event now that is a different story and ASU is better represented there, enough to met the requirement to be an FBS program, that is growing.

Another thing since I moved to this State from Tennessee, I have seen two athletic contests between ASU and the U of A and the tremendous superiority that some elude too and never manifested itself in those contest. I rather doubt football would be any different. I'll also tell you if Memphis can beat the my Vols , then ASU can beat the your Hawgs.  Most people I have talked to, Razorback or Indian fans, feel they should play.

[4thdownnutt]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

[Blue35]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

There are none.  They don't play to win.  They dress up and try to look like a football team and simply run onto the field and collect money for doing so.  Ark State has been doing this for years. They are strictly paid opponents to fill in the schedule of real football teams.  As a result of this behavior they have the reputation of a cheap prostitute and absolutely no tradition.  They should be banned from playing in Little Rock. It is a wasted of time and energy. I had rather go to a rodeo at Barton Coliseum than to an AState football game.

Many years ago when AState played in the old stadium in Jonesboro, Arkansas Tech from the old AIC came to play a game.  This was one game that the Indians were expected to win. There was a mascot dressed up like an Indian Chief on a big beautiful bay horse.  Whenever the Indians would score a touchdown, the Chief would gallop the horse around the track at full speed. Arkansas Tech was not very good and the Indians were piling on so the horse was getting tired.  In the fourth quarter as the Chief kicked the horse for another run, the horse reared up and threw the Chief off and took off running out of the stadium across the railroad tracks and into the hills. That was the most excitement that I ever saw at an Indian game.

[chiefsfan]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

You may not believe this, but Arkansas State had a good football team back in the 70's.   we were sort of like a gonzaga.  a D1AA team that played all D1 schools and beat most of them

[Seebs]

ASU Small Pox Blankets

[Foots]

Why can't they just stay the Indians? Didn't the NCAA say that they couldn't participate in the post season if they didn't change? Its not like keeping the name would affect them if that was the case.

[pughog]

I am not an ASU fan but i would like to know why everyone has such open disdain for asu. What is the big reason for the many many posts bashing asu. I just dont understand what the deal is. the only thing i really have against them is that they overcharge their tuition to pay for their sports teams. If you could enlighten me as to why everyone hates them so much, please please do so. :razorback: :razorback:

[pigture perfect]

I cheer for all of our Arkansas teams. This decision by whoever's PTB is one that needs to be done away with. The next change somebody will try to make will be the Rebel's or Southerners or anything associated with the confederacy. After thyat it would be any people group name such as Fighting Irish, Trojans, Spartans, Crusader's. Soon all that will be left for possible mascots will be animals and weather conditions.

[chiefsfan]

I am not an ASU fan but i would like to know why everyone has such open disdain for asu. What is the big reason for the many many posts bashing asu. I just dont understand what the deal is. the only thing i really have against them is that they overcharge their tuition to pay for their sports teams. If you could enlighten me as to why everyone hates them so much, please please do so. :razorback: :razorback:

ASU doesnt really overcharge their tuition to pay for sports.   Remember  UA students pay the same type fee, and still have to pay money additionally to get into games.   ASU students get in free to any ASU sporting event they so choose,  no questions asked.  heck, even the year of the WNIT sellout game against Arkansas, students still got in free, and they were let in all the way through, no one was turned away

Most of the disdain here has to do with the disdain some ASU fans have for Arkansas.  It all goes back to the fact that the schools have never played.   ASU fans dont like that, and Arkansas fans dont like a school they see as second fiddle in ASU complaining about a lack of games.

Meanwhile the third fiddle in UCA has reached a level where they may start asking for games with both of these 2 schools.   Meaning the next few years of scheduling should be interesting

[Porquer4life]

If the Indian and Indian family mascots are so vile and offensive then why this:

"Further, the committee recommends that "retirement" observances as appropriate for the Indian Family be held with dignity and honor on dates and occasions to be determined; and displays and/or exhibits be developed at suitable locations on the Jonesboro campus, to ensure this tradition (i.e., the Indian Family, nickname, etc.) is remembered as part of the history of Arkansas State University."


http://asunews.astate.edu/MRCommrecchange07.htm

PC bazonga

[booogaga]

i am leaning more towards the Arkansas State fighing "who cares"

[ThunderHog]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

There are none.  They don't play to win.  They dress up and try to look like a football team and simply run onto the field and collect money for doing so.  Ark State has been doing this for years. They are strictly paid opponents to fill in the schedule of real football teams.  As a result of this behavior they have the reputation of a cheap prostitute and absolutely no tradition.  They should be banned from playing in Little Rock. It is a wasted of time and energy. I had rather go to a rodeo at Barton Coliseum than to an AState football game.

Many years ago when AState played in the old stadium in Jonesboro, Arkansas Tech from the old AIC came to play a game.  This was one game that the Indians were expected to win. There was a mascot dressed up like an Indian Chief on a big beautiful bay horse.  Whenever the Indians would score a touchdown, the Chief would gallop the horse around the track at full speed. Arkansas Tech was not very good and the Indians were piling on so the horse was getting tired.  In the fourth quarter as the Chief kicked the horse for another run, the horse reared up and threw the Chief off and took off running out of the stadium across the railroad tracks and into the hills. That was the most excitement that I ever saw at an Indian game.

Good grief dude...how old are you?  Did you ever see Bill Bergey play

[jtw109]

how pissed off would you be if ASu made their official mascot the "Hogs", could U of A do anything to prevent this.

[lookinupthehill]

I cheer for all of our Arkansas teams. This decision by whoever's PTB is one that needs to be done away with. The next change somebody will try to make will be the Rebel's or Southerners or anything associated with the confederacy. After thyat it would be any people group name such as Fighting Irish, Trojans, Spartans, Crusader's. Soon all that will be left for possible mascots will be animals and weather conditions.

Nope forget that... PETA will be involved before too long and all the animal names will have to go by the wayside.  Sooner or later we'll just be down to serial numbers...  "Go 3203498's! Go!"

And all you elitists need to set down off your high horses for a little bit and get off of ASU.  Most of you have probably never even seen the friggin campus.  I'm not saying it's the premier institution in the state, but I've been to both and there are some things better there than here in Fayetteville.  Granted the athletic program leaves a lot to be desired (heck, I only went to 5 games the whole 4 years I was there and that was just for the Engineering tailgating) but that doesn't mean it deserves all the bashing.  Turn your hatred towards Texas, USC, or ND if you want but ASU is still a part of Arkansas. 

[ledhead830]

I am not an ASU fan but i would like to know why everyone has such open disdain for asu. What is the big reason for the many many posts bashing asu. I just dont understand what the deal is. the only thing i really have against them is that they overcharge their tuition to pay for their sports teams. If you could enlighten me as to why everyone hates them so much, please please do so. :razorback: :razorback:

ASU doesnt really overcharge their tuition to pay for sports.   Remember  UA students pay the same type fee, and still have to pay money additionally to get into games. 

No we don't. We have a HPER fee that is three bucks per hour, but there is absolutely no athletic fee at the University of Arkansas, unlike the $10 an hour athletic fee at ASU, which is on top of a $5 per hour recreation fee.

[Moe]

Blue35...very interesting to me that for someone that has such a complete distaste for not only Arkansas State but apparently the town of Jonesboro itself you sure seem to be very familiar with the area. You know quite a lot of Indian football history and even that there are an over abundance of fish houses in town. There are by the way only 4 but depending on where your from that could be valid. I grew up a hog fan and an Indian fan. I follow both. If ever made to choose between the two I would choose my Hogs but until then I will continue to support both. I think it's sad that there is so much negativity about ASU. My only thought about them playing is this. If Arkansas is not going to play Arkansas State don't schedule anyone in there conference. On the same note for the ASU fans....one of the biggest crowds in ASU history was when they played UCA. UCA can now count towards post season play so they should concentrate on that being a good Little Rock game.     

[Porquer4life]

how pissed off would you be if ASu made their official mascot the "Hogs", could U of A do anything to prevent this.

Yes, U of A holds licensing rights to the name.

[YellvilleHog]

how pissed off would you be if ASu made their official mascot the "Hogs", could U of A do anything to prevent this.

Yes, U of A holds licensing rights to the name.

What about the pigs?

Personally I like Jonesoboro Jack Offs

[Albert Einswine]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

You may not believe this, but Arkansas State had a good football team back in the 70's.   we were sort of like a gonzaga.  a D1AA team that played all D1 schools and beat most of them

That's not exactly true.  From 1953 to 1972 ASU was classified NCAA College Division (Small College).  From 1973-74, ASU moved up to Division II.  In 1975, ASU moved up to Division 1 through 1977.  Beginning in 1978, ASU was classified Division 1-A until 1982 when they were moved down to Division 1-AA.  In 1991, ASU moved back up to Division 1-A.

In 1975, ASU posted their 11-0 season, winning the Southland Conference, but were denied a bowl game in an era when their were far fewer bowls to go around and the SLC didn't have a guaranteed bowl tie-in.

When you say that ASU was beating Division 1 teams that's technically true, but they weren't beating any teams of national prominence.

[YellvilleHog]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

You may not believe this, but Arkansas State had a good football team back in the 70's.   we were sort of like a gonzaga.  a D1AA team that played all D1 schools and beat most of them

That's not exactly true.  From 1953 to 1972 ASU was classified NCAA College Division (Small College).  From 1973-74, ASU moved up to Division II.  In 1975, ASU moved up to Division 1 through 1977.  Beginning in 1978, ASU was classified Division 1-A until 1982 when they were moved down to Division 1-AA.  In 1991, ASU moved back up to Division 1-A.

In 1975, ASU posted their 11-0 season, winning the Southland Conference, but were denied a bowl game in an era when their were far fewer bowls to go around and the SLC didn't have a guaranteed bowl tie-in.

When you say that ASU was beating Division 1 teams that's technically true, but they weren't beating any teams of national prominence.

Hmm, if in that time we had been playing them once a season in LR and letting them count it as a home game, maybe they woulnd't have been jumping around different levels like that.

[Gomer_Says_Hey]

Can't believe they may get a marketing firm to help in finding a new name. 

The Arkansas State Pelphreys?

[Big Papa Satan]

I think that they have eaten way too much catfish.  There are more catfish houses in Jonesboro than any place I have ever been.  They eat it three times a day and four times on Sunday.

What's wrong with catfish?

[DeltaBoy]

It is sad the NCAA has nothing better to do that to PC the mascots of the colleges.

[gomersnerd]

[

Yes, U of A holds licensing rights to the name.
[/quote]



Perhaps to the" Uof A Razorbacks" but surely not to just "razorbacks".  If they did they would be all over Texarkana high. Also the razorback image we are familiar with but not all razorbacks in general.

[snortyann]

It's a great opportunity for an image make-over with a cool mascot and new uniforms.
Hope  they make a good choice and pick something that represents fighting spirit, regional appeal and not too generic.

[edmo]

"RED HEADED STEPCHILDREN"

[Justifiable Hogicide]

As Tony Montana would say:

The Arkansas State Cock-A-Roaches.

:razorback:

[edmo]

As Tony Montana would say:

The Arkansas State Cock-A-Roaches.

:razorback:

LOL +1

[Blue35]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

There are none.  They don't play to win.  They dress up and try to look like a football team and simply run onto the field and collect money for doing so.  Ark State has been doing this for years. They are strictly paid opponents to fill in the schedule of real football teams.  As a result of this behavior they have the reputation of a cheap prostitute and absolutely no tradition.  They should be banned from playing in Little Rock. It is a wasted of time and energy. I had rather go to a rodeo at Barton Coliseum than to an AState football game.

Many years ago when AState played in the old stadium in Jonesboro, Arkansas Tech from the old AIC came to play a game.  This was one game that the Indians were expected to win. There was a mascot dressed up like an Indian Chief on a big beautiful bay horse.  Whenever the Indians would score a touchdown, the Chief would gallop the horse around the track at full speed. Arkansas Tech was not very good and the Indians were piling on so the horse was getting tired.  In the fourth quarter as the Chief kicked the horse for another run, the horse reared up and threw the Chief off and took off running out of the stadium across the railroad tracks and into the hills. That was the most excitement that I ever saw at an Indian game.

Good grief dude...how old are you?  Did you ever see Bill Bergey play

Blue35...very interesting to me that for someone that has such a complete distaste for not only Arkansas State but apparently the town of Jonesboro itself you sure seem to be very familiar with the area. You know quite a lot of Indian football history and even that there are an over abundance of fish houses in town. There are by the way only 4 but depending on where your from that could be valid. I grew up a hog fan and an Indian fan. I follow both. If ever made to choose between the two I would choose my Hogs but until then I will continue to support both. I think it's sad that there is so much negativity about ASU. My only thought about them playing is this. If Arkansas is not going to play Arkansas State don't schedule anyone in there conference. On the same note for the ASU fans....one of the biggest crowds in ASU history was when they played UCA. UCA can now count towards post season play so they should concentrate on that being a good Little Rock game.     

I think that they have eaten way too much catfish.  There are more catfish houses in Jonesboro than any place I have ever been.  They eat it three times a day and four times on Sunday.

What's wrong with catfish?

Boy, did I get them stirred up or what?  Pass the catfish!

I am getting old but can't help that!

No I don't know Bill Bergey and never saw him play except on TV in the NFL.  However I did know Earl Ray Michaels, 62, and James Moody, 62, both KIA in Vietnam.

Earl played on scholarship when King Block was head coach. Although he was killed in 1968 he was not brought home until 1996.  Moody was the first soldier from my hometown to be killed in the Vietnam war. We were classmates and friends.  The same month in 1968 that Michaels was killed, I was shot down and wounded and evacuated to the Navy field hospital in Da Nang.

[Porquer4life]

[

Yes, U of A holds licensing rights to the name.

Perhaps to the" Uof A Razorbacks" but surely not to just "razorbacks".  If they did they would be all over Texarkana high. Also the razorback image we are familiar with but not all razorbacks in general.
[/quote]


U of A holds several trademarks in regards to the Razorbacks.  Check it out -

"The University's trademarks that are registered include "UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS", "ARKANSAS RAZORBACKS","ARKANSAS", "HOGS", "WOOO PIG SOOIE!", the University of Arkansas with the Old Main silhouette, any Razorback marks or images, and the University of Arkansas school Seal."

http://www.uark.edu/admin/busaffrs/purchasing/trademark.html

[Moe]

quick name the 5 bigest asu wins

There are none.  They don't play to win.  They dress up and try to look like a football team and simply run onto the field and collect money for doing so.  Ark State has been doing this for years. They are strictly paid opponents to fill in the schedule of real football teams.  As a result of this behavior they have the reputation of a cheap prostitute and absolutely no tradition.  They should be banned from playing in Little Rock. It is a wasted of time and energy. I had rather go to a rodeo at Barton Coliseum than to an AState football game.

Many years ago when AState played in the old stadium in Jonesboro, Arkansas Tech from the old AIC came to play a game.  This was one game that the Indians were expected to win. There was a mascot dressed up like an Indian Chief on a big beautiful bay horse.  Whenever the Indians would score a touchdown, the Chief would gallop the horse around the track at full speed. Arkansas Tech was not very good and the Indians were piling on so the horse was getting tired.  In the fourth quarter as the Chief kicked the horse for another run, the horse reared up and threw the Chief off and took off running out of the stadium across the railroad tracks and into the hills. That was the most excitement that I ever saw at an Indian game.

Good grief dude...how old are you?  Did you ever see Bill Bergey play

Blue35...very interesting to me that for someone that has such a complete distaste for not only Arkansas State but apparently the town of Jonesboro itself you sure seem to be very familiar with the area. You know quite a lot of Indian football history and even that there are an over abundance of fish houses in town. There are by the way only 4 but depending on where your from that could be valid. I grew up a hog fan and an Indian fan. I follow both. If ever made to choose between the two I would choose my Hogs but until then I will continue to support both. I think it's sad that there is so much negativity about ASU. My only thought about them playing is this. If Arkansas is not going to play Arkansas State don't schedule anyone in there conference. On the same note for the ASU fans....one of the biggest crowds in ASU history was when they played UCA. UCA can now count towards post season play so they should concentrate on that being a good Little Rock game.     

I think that they have eaten way too much catfish.  There are more catfish houses in Jonesboro than any place I have ever been.  They eat it three times a day and four times on Sunday.

What's wrong with catfish?

Boy, did I get them stirred up or what?  Pass the catfish!

I am getting old but can't help that!

No I don't know Bill Bergey and never saw him play except on TV in the NFL.  However I did know Earl Ray Michaels, 62, and James Moody, 62, both KIA in Vietnam.

Earl played on scholarship when King Block was head coach. Although he was killed in 1968 he was not brought home until 1996.  Moody was the first soldier from my hometown to be killed in the Vietnam war. We were classmates and friends.  The same month in 1968 that Michaels was killed, I was shot down and wounded and evacuated to the Navy field hospital in Da Nang.

I don't really consider myself fired up about anything it's just hard to imagine catfish having anything to do with this thread. Had a brother that was in Vietnam in 1969. Oh yeah, he likes catfish too.