Heath better LOSE his job

[batmanfan]

Another embarrassment guys.  This guy and Tommy Amaker are made of the same mold(U of Michigans coach).  Nice guys but they can't coach for s***. 

What a damn disgrace that was.  Tubby, for the 3rd straight year owned Heath and made him eat his own s***.  Frick you Heath go back to the North you loser.  You damn loser.

The whirlwind continue.  If they continue to lose hopefully we drop this guy, if not...frick it all.

[CDubyaP]

My worst nightmare is with Stan struggling and ole' Brady down in Baton Rouge is that we end up firing Stan and LSU cans Brady and we end up hiring him.

[SultanofSwine]

 

[silvertip]

Batman don't know BB. It's a long way to go this season. Can you remember last season, batman?

[trufanofhogs]

Sadly, with all the events lately, I simply don't care anymore.

[HeathWimp]

Darth Frank can't afford to fire Heath because of the Nolan lawsuit...

[elksnort]

Who cares what Nolan thinks. The BOT needs to get a freakin sack and slide JFB out of the damn door, if he will not get rid of Stan.

[The real Hogules]

While I'm not 100% sold on Stan Heath, if they fire Heath and allow Nutt to stay I'll personally steal Nolan's tank and drive it up the steps of the Broyles Complex myself!!!

Let's get rid of the much bigger tumor before we start worrying about a coach that started with NOTHING and has slowly, but steadily built his program into a halfway decent ball team.
Today's loss hurt, but it didn't help our chances when one of our leading scorers (Charles Thomas) was sidelined for the entire game, due to an injury.
Stephen Hill is FINALLY proving that he can be a force in the games as well as in practice and that shows the ability to develop big men (which was a constant ***** for fans who didn't much care for Nolan).
Is our program where I would like it to be?
Well of course not, but you have to understand that if you're only going to pay for an up and come-er to coach at your program you are going to have to expect/accept a learning curve for the "newby"
Now, if you can get JFB or whomever is in charge of that Flustercluck to pay BIG bucks for a proven winner, then by ALL means fire Stan Heath TODAY!
Otherwise, we'd just be starting over with another unproven commodity and Stan Heath has some awesome recruits lined up in the next couple of recruiting classes.
So unless it's a slam dunk hire, DON'T ROCK THE BOAT.

[JustoHogFan]

Who cares what Nolan thinks. The BOT needs to get a freakin sack and slide JFB out of the damn door, if he will not get rid of Stan.

I agree we have a sweet sixteen talent team and Heath cant even go .500 in the crap west?

[DEVICEHIGH]

Did Stan do a bad job??

[BentonvilleJeff]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

[HogFaninGA]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

[Ahenso]

Stan wont be fired. We can't pay 3 basketball coaches at the same time. This is the most roller coaster team in D1 basketball. I hate this. Everyone please turn on the tv and watch Dave Van Horn and the boys play some baseball at 3.

[HogFaninGA]

palooza if JFB fires Stan do you personally think its a racial thing?

[razornole]

Stan is like Dorko, can't fire, well you could but The White Haired Devil won't.  No way Stan gets it b4 the Dork.

[The real Hogules]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

Get a grip dude, ALL of our outside players are new to each other and are going to take at least half the season to get to know each others games.
They are going to look all world at times and at other times they are going to resemble a Chinese fire drill.
I like our mix of bigs and shooters and scorers, provided they can mesh their games I see NO reason they can't make a serious run at the NCAAT.

[elksnort]

The dork won the SEC west and his team performed very well for the most part. Sure, the Hogs would probably be better off without Nutt, but he has done more than Stan has.

[BentonvilleJeff]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

Jeff,  what was our 2 years of football like during the Nolan trial in which Nolan said HDN got special treatment over the other coaches?  HDN had Losing records! 

OK, now do you understand why Stan will have another year?

I miss Nolan but he asked to be fired on national tv. Houston has never done that. I don't care what color you are if you tell your boss to fire you then you probably get canned. I think people forget that. It's not like Nolan just all of a sudden got fired.

Do you not get that?

[stratpkr]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

Jeff,  what was our 2 years of football like during the Nolan trial in which Nolan said HDN got special treatment over the other coaches?  HDN had Losing records! 

OK, now do you understand why Stan will have another year?

I miss Nolan but he asked to be fired on national tv. Houston has never done that. I don't care what color you are if you tell your boss to fire you then you probably get canned. I think people forget that. It's not like Nolan just all of a sudden got fired.

Do you not get that?

Thats the gospel truth right there. Mercy some folks will never get it.

[phoggy]

While I'm not 100% sold on Stan Heath, if they fire Heath and allow Nutt to stay I'll personally steal Nolan's tank and drive it up the steps of the Broyles Complex myself!!!

Let's get rid of the much bigger tumor before we start worrying about a coach that started with NOTHING and has slowly, but steadily built his program into a halfway decent ball team.
Today's loss hurt, but it didn't help our chances when one of our leading scorers (Charles Thomas) was sidelined for the entire game, due to an injury.
Stephen Hill is FINALLY proving that he can be a force in the games as well as in practice and that shows the ability to develop big men (which was a constant ***** for fans who didn't much care for Nolan).
Is our program where I would like it to be?
Well of course not, but you have to understand that if you're only going to pay for an up and come-er to coach at your program you are going to have to expect/accept a learning curve for the "newby"
Now, if you can get JFB or whomever is in charge of that Flustercluck to pay BIG bucks for a proven winner, then by ALL means fire Stan Heath TODAY!
Otherwise, we'd just be starting over with another unproven commodity and Stan Heath has some awesome recruits lined up in the next couple of recruiting classes.
So unless it's a slam dunk hire, DON'T ROCK THE BOAT.

+1

[Karma]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

Typical statement that just isn't true. We WON THE NOLAN LAWSUIT. We've never been determined to be a racially discrimantory employer. We can fire Heath without fear of legal retribution.

[Karma]

Darth Frank can't afford to fire Heath because of the Nolan lawsuit...

Wrong.

[HogFaninGA]

Darth Frank can't afford to fire Heath because of the Nolan lawsuit...

Wrong.

right

[Karma]

While I'm not 100% sold on Stan Heath, if they fire Heath and allow Nutt to stay I'll personally steal Nolan's tank and drive it up the steps of the Broyles Complex myself!!!

Let's get rid of the much bigger tumor before we start worrying about a coach that started with NOTHING and has slowly, but steadily built his program into a halfway decent ball team.
Today's loss hurt, but it didn't help our chances when one of our leading scorers (Charles Thomas) was sidelined for the entire game, due to an injury.
Stephen Hill is FINALLY proving that he can be a force in the games as well as in practice and that shows the ability to develop big men (which was a constant ***** for fans who didn't much care for Nolan).
Is our program where I would like it to be?
Well of course not, but you have to understand that if you're only going to pay for an up and come-er to coach at your program you are going to have to expect/accept a learning curve for the "newby"
Now, if you can get JFB or whomever is in charge of that Flustercluck to pay BIG bucks for a proven winner, then by ALL means fire Stan Heath TODAY!
Otherwise, we'd just be starting over with another unproven commodity and Stan Heath has some awesome recruits lined up in the next couple of recruiting classes.
So unless it's a slam dunk hire, DON'T ROCK THE BOAT.

Funny, but isn't this position 180 opposite of your views on Nutt?

[Karma]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

You, on the other hand, are not smart enough to know what you are talking about.

[Houston h]

The hogs will get into the field of 64 by the skin of their teeth once again, an 8 or 9 seed and probably lose in the first round.  Next year will be it for Heath and his underachievers, if they can't do it as seniors, he will be gone.

[HogFaninGA]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

You, on the other hand, are not smart enough to know what you are talking about.

LOL ok

[razorquack]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

Nolan said if they didn't like the job he was doing, Frank could get him his money.  He was heard telling Tubby this the last time they played.  Nutt has enough sense to keep his mouth shut, and I think that's what bugging this board the most.

[Karma]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

You, on the other hand, are not smart enough to know what you are talking about.

LOL ok

My comment was smart aleck and I take it back and apoligize. No place for what I said on this board.

[HogFaninGA]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

You, on the other hand, are not smart enough to know what you are talking about.

LOL ok

My comment was smart aleck and I take it back and apoligize. No place for what I said on this board.

no problem

[WoooPigSooie]

Stan will not get fired after this season.  How can his boss say publically that we are 7th or 8th in the SEC, then when we finish there fire him?

I'm not the kind to take up a protest, but if it happens, and HN is still here, I will camp out in front of the BC and I don't think I'll be the only one.

[phoggy]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

You, on the other hand, are not smart enough to know what you are talking about.

LOL ok

My comment was smart aleck and I take it back and apoligize. No place for what I said on this board.

<----stands and applauds for some integrity

[mykidsdad]

As long as HDN and JFB go first, then I agree.

[HDale]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

This is true!

[HDale]

Stan will not get fired after this season.  How can his boss say publically that we are 7th or 8th in the SEC, then when we finish there fire him?

I'm not the kind to take up a protest, but if it happens, and HN is still here, I will camp out in front of the BC and I don't think I'll be the only one.

Yes!
We have achieved our potential.

[TOM "tbw1"]

Those who believe that Stan Heath or HDN will be fired someday also believe

1.  in the tooth fairy

2.  in the Easter Bunny

3.  that professional wrestling is real

4.  that Arkansas athletics are not mediocre.

[softballguy8]

Did Stan do a bad job??

Yes ... UK started double teaming Hill in the post with about 12 minutes left in the 2nd half. If Heath was smart (and most people would agree that he's not), he would have put Beverly on the same side of the court and instructed Hill to draw the double team, then kick the ball back out to Beverly (who was having a career day).

If there is a double team on the court - somebody will be open. Most likely it's close to the ball ... but if not, then the offense will have the opportunity to swing the ball around the court and find the open man.

Instead, this happens and Stan is caught on TV looking like a deer in head lights.

[PulledPork]

Another embarrassment guys.  This guy and Tommy Amaker are made of the same mold(U of Michigans coach).  Nice guys but they can't coach for s***. 

What a damn disgrace that was.  Tubby, for the 3rd straight year owned Heath and made him eat his own s***.  Frick you Heath go back to the North you loser.  You damn loser.

The whirlwind continue.  If they continue to lose hopefully we drop this guy, if not...frick it all.

and get ready for a protest led by none other than Jesse and Rev. Al





Pulled out...

[elkhog]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

Yep, got to get rid of Nutt first!

[elkhog]

Another embarrassment guys.  This guy and Tommy Amaker are made of the same mold(U of Michigans coach).  Nice guys but they can't coach for s***. 

What a damn disgrace that was.  Tubby, for the 3rd straight year owned Heath and made him eat his own s***.  Frick you Heath go back to the North you loser.  You damn loser.

The whirlwind continue.  If they continue to lose hopefully we drop this guy, if not...frick it all.

and get ready for a protest led by none other than Jesse and Rev. Al





Pulled out...

I would actually enjoy that in this instance.

[PigDaddyKane]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

Yep, got to get rid of Nutt first!

Why?  Why do we have to get rid of Nutt before Heath?  I don't follow that line of thinking at all.

While we haven't won the SEC under Nutt we have won the SEC-West three times, representing the west in the SEC Championship game twice.  Not great, but not bad.

Under Heath what do we have, one NCAA tourney game?  One SEC tourney win? 

Which is worse?  To me Heath by far. 

[PigDaddyKane]

However, Nutt has done more.  Granted he came in with a lot more to work with.

I'm not sold on Nutt.  He has to win the SEC next year or he is gone.  But by now the BBall program should be to a point were we are determining our seed, not whether or not we make the tourney.

[hogfan47]

 Fire Frank and Stan hire Nolan

[PigDaddyKane]

We've beaten real teams. 

Texas - twice
Bama
Auburn
LSU (been a while)
Tenn

We've won, just not consistently enough.  We can't make that same statement under Heath

[Cajun Hog]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

No way do I agree with that. We are 3-5 in conf play. That is a huge difference in finishing 7-1 in the SEC in football which is tougher than the bball league this year. Not even a close comparison. If Stan went 10-6 and won the west and got fired then that would be true, but no way in the world does the comparison between football and bball come close. We are under performing big time in basketball this year. There is talent on this team and we should be an automatic big dance team. Instead we are fighting like crazy to finish .500 in conference play.

If they fire Stan and not HDN, be on the lookout for the Rev Sharpton and Jackson to visit Fayetteville.  JFB is smart enough to know this and will not fire Stan this yr.

Let them come as I've said many, many times Stan "I'm not the man for the job" Heath.............................................................................................   

[HogFaninGA]

palooza if JFB fires Stan do you personally think its a racial thing?

Sorry, had to leave for a min.  That is something we could probably Never Prove.  But for what it is worth,

I think JFB is like most people, he has tendency's to do more for some1 he likes rather then do something for some1 that he has no feelings for or dislikes.  I think JFB sees Stan as a Business decision only.  Where as HDN is a Friend then he is a business decision. 

JFB prejudice?  No, no more then the average person, maybe less? 

JFB as a part of the Good Ole Boy Network?  Yes, maybe not to the extent that the network reached up to the 60's and 70's.  But yes, I think that plays into his decision making. 

Is that any differant then most of us?  No, probably not. 

Did I answer your question?  Not directly I am sure.  But there is only a few ( less than the fingers on 1 hand )  that could answer that about JFB. 



P.S.

If Stan is let go, and JFB is tide to it, then it will be hard to get some people to think ( especially other SEC coaches ) and say that race was not an issue.  All brought out by the Nolan Trial. 

Therefore Stan is safe for 1 more year. JFB retires, the New AD gets rid of HDN and Stan for a multitude of reason on each coaches part.

Thanks for the response.  I pretty much agree with you.  Like I like to say perception is reality to most people and a lot of people will look at this as a racial thing.  Right or wrong that is how many will perceive it.

The reason I asked you individually is b/c I respect your opinions and a few days a go there was a thread about this and it seemed to me you were discounting that as a possibility or discounting it as a perception to some people.  I was wrong I guess.  Thanks again.

[B Ray]

Who cares what Nolan thinks. The BOT needs to get a freakin sack and slide JFB out of the damn door, if he will not get rid of Stan.

I agree, but you can't do that with the way HDN has been treated, you can't fire Stan until Nutt is gone,

[JohnRedkorn]

OMFG. Some of you Hog "fans" are unfreakinbelievable. Fire Heath. Sheesh!

[TXrazorback]

Nope, we can't get rid of Stan and keep HDN?   That would make Nolan look like he was right.  HDN gets preferential treatment.  JFB can't afford that.

And that is exactly why we should clean house.

[PIGINAPOKE]

Stan has no control of the team...Period...........It is a day at the beach with unknown friends who play bb here..What a mess...........