New State rankings

[Hogstocking]

Rivals is finally starting to release updated state rankings.

Devin Thomas is now the #42 ranked player in TX (I believe he was previously #49)

Ugo Okpara wasnt listed on the last texas 100, now he's #59
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1843&Year=2008

Arkansas isn't done yet, but based on rankings in the rivals 100-250 and RR ratings, the new top 5 should look like this:
1.  Curtis #98 on Rivals 100
2.  Wright  #176 on Rivals 250
3.  Adams  #190 on Rivals 250
4.  Hall  #197 on Rivals 250
5.  Cruz - The only 5.7 three star in the state

Also, Winston Guy will be the #1 rated player in Kentucky. 

[gohawgsgo]

Thanks for the research and effort.  Good info.

[Joe]

 :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: Thanks for that, Hogstocking.  :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:

[Luke Duke]

Well, some continually pointed out that Okpara wasn't in the Texas Top 100. Hopefully that will shut them up.

[Hogstocking]

Hmmm.  New Arkansas rankings come out today and there a few surprises (to me anyway)...Wright and Adams are rated higher than Hall on the rivals 250, but yet Hall comes in at #2 in the new state rankings.  

1.  De'Anthony Curtis
2.  Matt Hall
3.  Jay Wright
4.  Joe Adams
5.  Cruz Williams
6.  Jim Youngblood
7.  Lavunce Askew
8.  Greg Childs
9.  Tyler Wilson
10. Dennis Johnson

Also, instead of a top 10, theres a top 15

11.  Jake Byrne
12.  Taylor Stockemer
13.  Austin Eoff
14.  Basmine Jones
15.  Chris Gragg

[Michael11]

Hmmm.  New Arkansas rankings come out today and there a few surprises (to me anyway)...Wright and Adams are rated higher than Hall on the rivals 250, but yet Hall comes in at #2 in the new state rankings.  

1.  De'Anthony Curtis
2.  Matt Hall
3.  Jay Wright
4.  Joe Adams
5.  Cruz Williams
6.  Jim Youngblood
7.  Lavunce Askew
8.  Greg Childs
9.  Tyler Wilson
10. Dennis Johnson

Also, instead of a top 10, theres a top 15

11.  Jake Byrne
12.  Taylor Stockemer
13.  Austin Eoff
14.  Basmine Jones
15.  Chris Gragg

Only an opinion but: Basmine jones is a top 5 player in this state! I was much more impressed with him that i was Adams! He is big and physical and very fast.

[ntubjr]

Agreed

[Hogstocking]

Arkansas http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1854&Year=2008

And as expected Winston Guy is the #1 rated player in KY.  http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1883&Year=2008

Nice to get a commit from a #1 rated player from another state, it's been a while since Arkansas has done that (Batman Carroll).

[imhogwild2]

notice how adams rating goes down after the commit to usc while the players commited to arkansas suddenly move up on the list?

if you were at the cac-pa game friday night you saw why joe adams is the top player in the state

[Michael11]

notice how adams rating goes down after the commit to usc while the players commited to arkansas suddenly move up on the list?

if you were at the cac-pa game friday night you saw why joe adams is the top player in the state

Joe Adams is very good but I would say the if Jarius Wright got the touches that Adams does you would not be saying Adams was the best.

[bigguy551122]

when thinking about ranking adams everyone needs to remember that he is going to be a DB in college , so if you are watching him this season pay more attention to him the the D side than what he does on the O side

[hog37]

I still dont understand how Curtis can be ranked ahead of Johnson.  On pure talent and ability, Johnson has him easy.  Look at their stats, nothing to compare.  Competition, nothing to compare.  Do grades influence rankings?

[bigguy551122]

I still dont understand how Curtis can be ranked ahead of Johnson.  On pure talent and ability, Johnson has him easy.  Look at their stats, nothing to compare.  Competition, nothing to compare.  Do grades influence rankings?

have not seen either play so i cant say who is better but grades do play a factor and from what i hear DJ has horrible grades

[regi]

notice how adams rating goes down after the commit to usc while the players commited to arkansas suddenly move up on the list?

if you were at the cac-pa game friday night you saw why joe adams is the top player in the state

It didn't affect Ziemba and Burns last year? They stayed #1 and #2 and neither committed to Arkansas? Can you explain that? Odus "Grit" Kirk and Trey DON'T rate the recruits for Rivals, that is why they have their own ranking system "Natural 21" or some crap like that. If you are upset with the rankings, contact Jeremy Crabtree and Bobbi Burton, neither live in Arkansas. They just go to games and grade film, with help from former coaches.

[Amityvillehogger]

I still dont understand how Curtis can be ranked ahead of Johnson.  On pure talent and ability, Johnson has him easy.  Look at their stats, nothing to compare.  Competition, nothing to compare.  Do grades influence rankings?

Sour grapes?

Definately, understand it.  It's not always about stats, my friend.  It's not always about who you play.  Also, Do you really want a student that is failing to represent our state as number one? hmm, those arkansas kids sure are smart.

[ntubjr]

Adams got dropped after the Rivals guys saw him at the Florida camp.It fad nothing to do with USC or Kirk That is per Burton .Adams will be a good DB BUT he coukd not start at WR for Warren I was at the first game.Dollarway single coered him He had 3 catches for 39 yards and 6 rushes for 0 yards with 2 fumbles Do noi try to tell me he is the best This is not one of PAs better teams and they did not have alot of speed

[jpenrod1]

did you see his last game? he would be the best player on the field at Warren.

[ntubjr]

PA is not Warren We can agree to disagree

[Wu Tang Clan]

did you see his last game? he would be the best player on the field at Warren.

You do know Joe Adams played against Warren last year and he did absolutely nothing at his team got blasted.  The game was not even close and you could not even tell Joe was on the field.  I think Joe Adams will start at USC 2 years from now as a corner but he still has a lot of development left if he wants to be a reciever at the next level.  Joe has not put on a show against any team that has good team speed yet.  Given all that I still think that Joe Adams is a top 3 or 4 player in the state. 

[Razorhog2006q]

did you see his last game? he would be the best player on the field at Warren.

He did that last year against Pulaski Academy, but was shut down by Warren in the playoffs. Warren has MUCH more team speed than Pulaski Academy. The fastest player on Pulaski Academy's defense runs a 4.7. All Joe had to do to score against Pulaski Academy(which is exactly what he did on just about every passing play) was run a vertical route and use his speed to run away from everyone for the touchdown. He had one touchdown on a hail mary pass and another touchdown from a hail mary pass negated due to a holding penalty.  Speed is his big advantage over most of his competition and if he doesn't have that advantage, then he isn't going to do much. We've seen that with him against Dollarway last week and Warren last year.

[Eric Cartman]

if he is going to USC to play DB, why not come to Arkansas? i can understand going to USC to be a receiver, but if he is going to be a DB, we put them in the NFL too. Maybe he will change his mind, especially since Dmac and Nutt are going hard after him.

[arkjay19]

This class is going to keep filling out and keep getting better and better.

[hog37]

I still dont understand how Curtis can be ranked ahead of Johnson.  On pure talent and ability, Johnson has him easy.  Look at their stats, nothing to compare.  Competition, nothing to compare.  Do grades influence rankings?

Sour grapes?

Definately, understand it.  It's not always about stats, my friend.  It's not always about who you play.  Also, Do you really want a student that is failing to represent our state as number one? hmm, those arkansas kids sure are smart.

OK.......so it's not about stats, its not about who you play.........whats it about then?   Except for hardcore huggers, most knowledgable football fans would take D Johnson as theri RB if given the choice.   Grapes are actually sweet!

[aaron_c]

I still dont understand how Curtis can be ranked ahead of Johnson.  On pure talent and ability, Johnson has him easy.  Look at their stats, nothing to compare.  Competition, nothing to compare.  Do grades influence rankings?

Sour grapes?

Definately, understand it.  It's not always about stats, my friend.  It's not always about who you play.  Also, Do you really want a student that is failing to represent our state as number one? hmm, those arkansas kids sure are smart.

OK.......so it's not about stats, its not about who you play.........whats it about then?   Except for hardcore huggers, most knowledgable football fans would take D Johnson as theri RB if given the choice.   Grapes are actually sweet!

Even if Johnson is better, would you take him with his grades over Curtis and his grades?  If you did that as the Arkansas coach, hogville would be calling for your head just like what is happening now with HDN, because Johnson would be in junior college.