Why Kamren Curl chose Arkansas

[Biggus Piggus]

This is not a post for the recruiting forum. It is a post for here. It is a post for those who claim that broadcasting their exaggerated, nonstop negativity is irrelevant to the destiny of the Razorbacks.

Kamren Curl, Muskogee defensive back, was asked why he committed to Arkansas:

"The biggest thing was the fan base," Curl said. "The fan base is real loyal. You want a good fan base to back you up. (Also) the coaches, and it was like a family atmosphere."

The only thing we can do to help is to be Razorback fans. You can withhold your love if you feel like it. You might carry on a personal campaign to get some coach fired.

It does not help the Razorbacks to have people ranting on radio shows, attacking everything on message boards, and leaving Bud Walton Arena mostly empty. You know those big Fayetteville crowds made a huge difference in recruiting this season.

We can debate the way things are done, and I will continue to do that always. Just remember, though, the only good thing we can do is be Razorback fans.

[Dr. Starcs]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

Busted lol

[M L (bassplayer)]

I agree.
:razorback:

[LRRandy]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

message boards work better when you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

[JackJohnson]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

BP is hands down the most bi-polar poster on HV when it comes to football and basketball.  He changes from on or off the bandwagon with the wind almost daily.  Like a box of chocolates you never know what you are going to get: pro or anti on any given day

[Little Lady Back]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

Ha!

[JIHawg]

I think it's a good post.  Many of us post positive one day and negative the next.

What's novel here, and what a lot of the more negative, one-note Johnnys will miss, is this notion that a message board is not the place to air your dirty laundry.  That would require message boards to grow up in their evolution.  As long as there are jr highers, prisoners, malcontents, mental cases, trollers from other schools, and other riff raff able to get on here anonymously, I just don't see this happening.

Now if message boards made posters use their real name, and maybe a tag line, like mine would say, retired pharmacist in Conway, that might actually clean up all the drivel.  Maybe. 

That's the next step in the evolution of message boards.

[Dirty]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

Well, that has to have a little sting to it!

[Oklahawg]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

If we put 2 and 2 together ... oh hell, I don't think anyone is interested right now.

[jkstock04]

Speaking of an empty Bud Walton...talk to the "we don't need ya anyways" crowd so often seen on here.

If they aren't careful...same thing will happen with the football program.

[lutherheggs]

message boards work better when you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

lol!

[Dominicanhog]

what do you call a poster who says one thing but does the exact opposite?  a Biggus Piggus?

[DEVIL DOG HOG]

Welcome Kamren Curl, It's a great day to be a Hog.

[1994]

Hogville was originally started as a chat board for people that suffer from and been diagnosed as bi-polar. Just turned out that there were so many Razorback Fans with this issue that the format and name was changed.

[DeltaBoy]

The Bud Dome been hurt be bad basket ball and the SEC TV package that has every game on TV now days.

[hogsanity]

One can criticize without being negative. I think most people realize that fans are not going to be happy with everything that goes on, especially during or after a loss. Biggus has often pointed out shortcomings on the football team. Usually his criticism is backed up with numbers, statistical analysis.

His Op here was pretty specific, those saying they won't go to games anymore/donate anymore. He rightly pointed out the difference in the crowds for football and basketball. Would this player have committed for football had DWRRS been half or more empty for the game(s) he attended as a recruit, or games he might have watched on tv? That is what Biggus is talking about.

However, there does come a time when empty seats are a detriment, and can only be fixed by changing coaches. We are no where near that in football, and basketball crowds may be better going forward if they keep winning.

[TNhawgfan]

Love your new avatar Biggus. Master of Reality indeed!

[Dominicanhog]

One can criticize without being negative.

Yes one can.. but when almost every single post says the same thing over and over and over.. I call that being negative...

[PonderinHog]

Yes one can.. but when almost every single post says the same thing over and over and over.. I call that being negative...

Well, if it's an even number of negatives, that would make the end result a positive.

[farmhawg]

what do you call a poster who says one thing but does the exact opposite?  a Biggus Piggus?

[Dominicanhog]

Well, if it's an even number of negatives, that would make the end result a positive.

I guess.. and saying Mike sucks, Mike's in over his head, Mike can't coach or Mike has got to go, is not really saying the same thing over and over is it?

[PonderinHog]

I guess.. and saying Mike sucks, Mike's in over his head, Mike can't coach or Mike has got to go, is not really saying the same thing over and over is it?

You do the math...   

[Sow Lancelot]

This is not a post for the recruiting forum. It is a post for here. It is a post for those who claim that broadcasting their exaggerated, nonstop negativity is irrelevant to the destiny of the Razorbacks.

Kamren Curl, Muskogee defensive back, was asked why he committed to Arkansas:

"The biggest thing was the fan base," Curl said. "The fan base is real loyal. You want a good fan base to back you up. (Also) the coaches, and it was like a family atmosphere."

The only thing we can do to help is to be Razorback fans. You can withhold your love if you feel like it. You might carry on a personal campaign to get some coach fired.

It does not help the Razorbacks to have people ranting on radio shows, attacking everything on message boards, and leaving Bud Walton Arena mostly empty. You know those big Fayetteville crowds made a huge difference in recruiting this season.

We can debate the way things are done, and I will continue to do that always. Just remember, though, the only good thing we can do is be Razorback fans.

Which is why it is pretty clear that the majority of the fan base is not represented by the vicious, know-it-alls on this board. Thank God.

[farmhawg]

Yep, big difference between MA and Brett but all the things tgey give credit to on one they can't see with the other.

I still think it comes down to one big difference.

[RazorPiggie]

Yep, big difference between MA and Brett but all the things tgey give credit to on one they can't see with the other.

I still think it comes down to one big difference.

One's in shape while the other isn't?

[Dominicanhog]

One's in shape while the other isn't?

actually CBB is in pretty good shape for an overweight DL....

[Biggus Piggus]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

They asked for a prediction. That's what it was. Happy I was wrong. The relentless hammering is what I'm talking about.

[kaki]

 BP, it would seem to me your comment is more than appropriate to stand on its merits and one that I agree with, but as not uncommon on this board when one cannot attack the message then attack the messenger. If the fact that we have all posted something on the board in the past that appears inconsistent with a later post is prohibition to further posting, then there would likely be no activity on the board!

[Biggus Piggus]

BP, it would seem to me your comment is more than appropriate to stand on its merits and one that I agree with, but as not uncommon on this board when one cannot attack the message then attack the messenger. If the fact that we have all posted something on the board in the past that appears inconsistent with a later post is prohibition to further posting, then there would likely be no activity on the board!

Yep - game threads, especially, exist in their own special world.

[ARKANSAS@HOGS]

Welcome Kamren Curl, It's a great day to be a Hog.

+1

[Gonzo]

I'm led to believe most message boarders, particularly the extremists, overestimate their relevance and impact.



Go Hogs!

[hawgfan4life]

This is not a post for the recruiting forum. It is a post for here. It is a post for those who claim that broadcasting their exaggerated, nonstop negativity is irrelevant to the destiny of the Razorbacks.

Kamren Curl, Muskogee defensive back, was asked why he committed to Arkansas:

"The biggest thing was the fan base," Curl said. "The fan base is real loyal. You want a good fan base to back you up. (Also) the coaches, and it was like a family atmosphere."

The only thing we can do to help is to be Razorback fans. You can withhold your love if you feel like it. You might carry on a personal campaign to get some coach fired.

It does not help the Razorbacks to have people ranting on radio shows, attacking everything on message boards, and leaving Bud Walton Arena mostly empty. You know those big Fayetteville crowds made a huge difference in recruiting this season.

We can debate the way things are done, and I will continue to do that always. Just remember, though, the only good thing we can do is be Razorback fans.

Agree.  I have said since fans ran off Hatfield, Richardson, and Nutt that all the negativity does is undermine the programs, hurts recruiting, and accomplishes very little.  Everytime anyone posts this, it is hit with recruits don't read the boards, it doesn't really make a difference, etc. 

Negativity hurts the program.  Period!

[azhog10]

Which is why I was surprised when you posted "Prepare for more suck" in the jump ball forum about the Hogs/a&m prediction thread.

Classic!

Insert Michael Jackson popcorn GIF.

[hawgfan4life]

They asked for a prediction. That's what it was. Happy I was wrong. The relentless hammering is what I'm talking about.

Posts like that add to the hammering.  Just as bad.  Your post implied the team sucks, the coach sucks, it has sucked for a long time, and will continue to suck with the current coach for every reader that already has those feelings and especially those inclined to always go dark.

[TNhawgfan]

I'm led to believe most message boarders, particularly the extremists, overestimate their relevance and impact.

True, but I also believe message boards themselves have no real impact. ADs aren't hiring or firing because of what message boards say. Recruits aren't choosing schools because of what message boards say. I look at a lot of message boards that are out on the net, and hogville is actually one of the more positive ones I read

[Gonzo]

True, but I also believe message boards themselves have no real impact. ADs aren't hiring or firing because of what message boards say. Recruits aren't choosing schools because of what message boards say. I look at a lot of message boards that are out on the net, and hogville is actually one of the more positive ones I read

That was pretty much my gist. I doubt HV is a consideration for many, if any, significant decisions regarding Razorback athletics.


Go Hogs!

[Tejano Jawg]

Good post...starter post.

I have never understood the time devoted to (or wasted on) big things like "Let's fire Coach ________." Followed by "Then, who would we get in here?" Etc, etc. Like anyone here has anything to do with that. Threads like this can go multiple pages fast.

As for some coaching decisions, I can bitch plenty. And this may be an equally pointless waste of time, but it makes me feel better. Like if I keep questioning why we hit the same part of the line—on the goal line, against the Aggies—maybe it will have some magical effect on our future playcalling.

[jgphillips3]

Uttering the word "Hogville" let's people know what they are about to see every bit as much as "allahu akbar" let's you know a poop storm is about to hit.

[Biggus Piggus]

Posts like that add to the hammering.  Just as bad.  Your post implied the team sucks, the coach sucks, it has sucked for a long time, and will continue to suck with the current coach for every reader that already has those feelings and especially those inclined to always go dark.

No, I expected Arkansas to lose at College Station like MA had done three times before at Arkansas and three times before at Missouri (they only played there every other year).

Regardless, I'm careful to balance my negative posts with some objective ones + rebut the people who hammer on wrongheaded views such as "MA never changes."

[trashcan maN]

No, I expected Arkansas to lose at College Station like MA had done three times before at Arkansas and three times before at Missouri (they only played there every other year).

Regardless, I'm careful to balance my negative posts with some objective ones + rebut the people who hammer on wrongheaded views such as "MA never changes."

There is plenty of merit to "MA never changes". Clearly it's an overly broad statement, but how many years of seeing players ball watching under the rim instead of putting an ass on someone does it take before we show a bit more effort/execution on the defensive boards? Offensive rebounds are just as bad or worse than turnovers.

We do look like a different team this year, and adjustments have been made. Just pointing out that  many of the complaints against him are legit imo..

[tophawg19]

actually Hogville is a great example of the hog fans in general , All of the people i know and all i meet pretty much share the same attitudes as on here . the only ones not really represented here are the indifferent ones who go to the games for show and don't care about results . Hogville is a perfect representation of the real , passionate hog fans . What this site really is , is a thousand coffee shops across the nation. go into a coffee shop, bar or anywhere hog fans meet to talk and this is exactly what you hear . And it's both men and women . Teachers lounge , beauty shop, barber shop , grocery store , This is the conversations going on in there . Hogville is a supersized coffee shop

[Pork Twain]

Well said...  I often find myself posting, not because I 100% believe a certain way, but more because I am just sick of all of the negativity nonstop.  Rational thought is needed here.

[Biggus Piggus]

We do look like a different team this year, and adjustments have been made. Just pointing out that  many of the complaints against him are legit imo..

It happens.

[PonderinHog]

actually Hogville is a great example of the hog fans in general , All of the people i know and all i meet pretty much share the same attitudes as on here . the only ones not really represented here are the indifferent ones who go to the games for show and don't care about results . Hogville is a perfect representation of the real , passionate hog fans . What this site really is , is a thousand coffee shops across the nation. go into a coffee shop, bar or anywhere hog fans meet to talk and this is exactly what you hear . And it's both men and women . Teachers lounge , beauty shop, barber shop , grocery store , This is the conversations going on in there . Hogville is a supersized coffee shop

[Pork Twain]

actually Hogville is a great example of the hog fans in general , All of the people i know and all i meet pretty much share the same attitudes as on here . the only ones not really represented here are the indifferent ones who go to the games for show and don't care about results . Hogville is a perfect representation of the real , passionate hog fans . What this site really is , is a thousand coffee shops across the nation. go into a coffee shop, bar or anywhere hog fans meet to talk and this is exactly what you hear . And it's both men and women . Teachers lounge , beauty shop, barber shop , grocery store , This is the conversations going on in there . Hogville is a supersized coffee shop

Often one finds them surrounded by those of a like mind.

[TNhawgfan]

actually Hogville is a great example of the hog fans in general , All of the people i know and all i meet pretty much share the same attitudes as on here . the only ones not really represented here are the indifferent ones who go to the games for show and don't care about results . Hogville is a perfect representation of the real , passionate hog fans . What this site really is , is a thousand coffee shops across the nation. go into a coffee shop, bar or anywhere hog fans meet to talk and this is exactly what you hear . And it's both men and women . Teachers lounge , beauty shop, barber shop , grocery store , This is the conversations going on in there . Hogville is a supersized coffee shop

Haha when I first started teaching and coaching in high school many moons ago, I was shocked at the way they talked in the teacher's lounge and coach's office. Now, I'm right there with them. "Let me tell you what that little prick sob said to me today...yadda yadda"

[Dominicanhog]

Posts like that add to the hammering.  Just as bad.  Your post implied the team sucks, the coach sucks, it has sucked for a long time, and will continue to suck with the current coach for every reader that already has those feelings and especially those inclined to always go dark.

that's right, and not just when questions are asked or it's a game thread.. saying "good job but this crap is never going to change as long as Mike is here" or "we are better than them but if we lose, it'll be because he was out coached again" is not balance.. it's very hypocritical... but if the shoe fits....

[tophawg19]

not really , i've heard some heated arguments in all sorts of places . Most real hog fans are very passionate and have strong opinions

[hogsanity]

actually Hogville is a great example of the hog fans in general , All of the people i know and all i meet pretty much share the same attitudes as on here . the only ones not really represented here are the indifferent ones who go to the games for show and don't care about results . Hogville is a perfect representation of the real , passionate hog fans . What this site really is , is a thousand coffee shops across the nation. go into a coffee shop, bar or anywhere hog fans meet to talk and this is exactly what you hear . And it's both men and women . Teachers lounge , beauty shop, barber shop , grocery store , This is the conversations going on in there . Hogville is a supersized coffee shop

No it isn't. Most hog fans do not sit around in late January talking about if the football coach should be fired, or what defensive scheme they should run, or if Jeff Long is a spy for the big10. Most hog fans are in hibernation until next Aug. Oh some will come out for signing day, and some for the spring game, but by and large they have better things to do with their time.

All of us on the other hand........................