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Started by Hogdomer, January 16, 2017, 08:12:16 pm

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Hogdomer

Had another surgery on his foot.  Saw on twitter.

1highhog

I saw that as well.  Man, I hope he doesn't end up like Walker, we need agree law as much as anybody we have on defense.

 

ricepig

Quote from: Hogdomer on January 16, 2017, 08:12:16 pm
Had another surgery on his foot.  Saw on twitter.

Actually the surgery is Wednesday.

Dominicanhog

I know it's been asked before, but does anybody know if other schools have as many foot injuries?  I just don't remember as many as the last 3-4 years...

JackJohnson

January 16, 2017, 08:54:26 pm #4 Last Edit: January 16, 2017, 09:05:42 pm by JackJohnson
Quote from: Dominicanhog on January 16, 2017, 08:23:54 pm
I know it's been asked before, but does anybody know if other schools have as many foot injuries?  I just don't remember as many as the last 3-4 years...

I don't care how many feet we break we better not stop doing those squat videos!

Tortfeasor

He reinjured it during the Belk Bowl.

Pork Ranger

Quote from: Tortfeasor on January 16, 2017, 08:55:52 pm
He reinjured it during the Belk Bowl.

Well good thing we brought him back. Solid move

island hog

Doubt he would have played if not cleared by the doctors. He practiced prior to the game as well. 

Letsroll1200

Quote from: Tortfeasor on January 16, 2017, 08:55:52 pm
He reinjured it during the Belk Bowl.
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure

onebadrubi

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure

You are already furious at this coaching staff...

Hogs958

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure

he's a football player...he was cleared to play. Sounds like your son would sit on the sideline if it was up to you.

HogNiner12

Quote from: Hogs958 on January 16, 2017, 11:01:34 pm
he's a football player...he was cleared to play. Sounds like your son would sit on the sideline if it was up to you.
Him and his son are fans of the participation trophy too!!

rzrbk4life

We can rebuild him. We have the technology. Better than he was before. Better..stronger..faster.
Let's call those hogs!!!!

 

RagingHawgOn

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure

What a shock.

code red

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure
Agreed.....stupid Belk bowl?  Really?
"If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today."  Dr. Lou

Letsroll1200

Quote from: Hogs958 on January 16, 2017, 11:01:34 pm
he's a football player...he was cleared to play. Sounds like your son would sit on the sideline if it was up to you.

He would be on the sideline getting healthy and be ready for spring football. One freaking Belk Bowl game does not matter. Just shows the lack of depth that has been recruited at linebacker to rush someone back from a serious injury. Coach B should have used better judgment and held this young man back.

hawgwash

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 17, 2017, 09:12:42 am
He would be on the sideline getting healthy and be ready for spring football. One freaking Belk Bowl game does not matter. Just shows the lack of depth that has been recruited at linebacker to rush someone back from a serious injury. Coach B should have used better judgment and held this young man back.
So Coach B is supposed to insert his judgment over the doctor's?  Also, based on comments on Hogville the last several weeks it would seem the Belk Bowl did in fact matter.

Tortfeasor

Quote from: island hog on January 16, 2017, 09:10:21 pm
Doubt he would have played if not cleared by the doctors. He practiced prior to the game as well. 

I'm sure he was cleared by all doctors and the coaches. I felt sick when I saw him go down during the game holding the same foot. Quick...what color cleats were we wearing during the bowl game?

26.2Hog

Quote from: hawgwash on January 17, 2017, 01:49:06 pm
So Coach B is supposed to insert his judgment over the doctor's?

Wouldn't be the first time.

PorkRinds


26.2Hog


Jackrabbit Hog

Quote from: rzrbk4life on January 17, 2017, 04:36:57 am
We can rebuild him. We have the technology. Better than he was before. Better..stronger..faster.

Yeah, but will he then marry Farrah Fawcett?
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I'm sure it's nothing that a $500 retainer can't fix.  Contact JackRabbit Hog for payment instructions.

STLhawg

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure
And if he didn't play in the Belk Bowl you -- without ANY doubt -- you would have been on here furious that BB wasn't playing someone that the doctors had cleared to play!

As others have pointed out, you don't like BB and are simply looking for any and every thing to be pissy about.  The truth of the matter is you have ZERO proof that Greenlaw wasn't 100% healed and fully ready to play.

Sow Lancelot

"Nec vitia nostra nec remedium tolerare possumus." Livy
Nihil boni sine labore, sic vis pacem, para bellum.

 

ricepig


The Hawg Marshal

Didn't they hold RW3 out of  the spring game after he'd been cleared?

26.2Hog

Quote from: The Hawg Marshal on January 17, 2017, 05:17:44 pm
Didn't they hold RW3 out of  the spring game after he'd been cleared?

Correct.

Rawleigh was cleared by multiple doctors to return to full contact practice in the spring, but Bielema held him out of contact, which included the red-white game.

I personally think it was the best decision for Williams. 

The decision to put Greenlaw back into contact is not one I am going to second guess.

"Williams has been cleared for full practice, but according to Murphy, coach Bret Bielema has decided the sophomore will wear a no contact jersey until the fall."

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/arkansas-rawleigh-williams-iii-returns-to-practice-for-first-time-since-suffering-neck-injury

hobhog

Quote from: STLhawgg on January 17, 2017, 04:54:55 pm
And if he didn't play in the Belk Bowl you -- without ANY doubt -- you would have been on here furious that BB wasn't playing someone that the doctors had cleared to play!

As others have pointed out, you don't like BB and are simply looking for any and every thing to be pissy about.  The truth of the matter is you have ZERO proof that Greenlaw wasn't 100% healed and fully ready to play.

It was an important game despite what naysayers were saying prior to kickoff. Coach B was trying to win the game and played one of his best players that wanted to play and was cleared. If we had held on and won we would be a much happier program.

ThisTeetsTaken

They need to stop doing the "kick this anvil" excercise all the time.  Cut down on some of these foot injuries.
***"He must increase, but I must decrease"***

PorkRinds

Quote from: 26.2Hog on January 17, 2017, 05:23:20 pm
Correct.

Rawleigh was cleared by multiple doctors to return to full contact practice in the spring, but Bielema held him out of contact, which included the red-white game.

I personally think it was the best decision for Williams. 

The decision to put Greenlaw back into contact is not one I am going to second guess.

"Williams has been cleared for full practice, but according to Murphy, coach Bret Bielema has decided the sophomore will wear a no contact jersey until the fall."

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/arkansas-rawleigh-williams-iii-returns-to-practice-for-first-time-since-suffering-neck-injury

Dude broke his neck. That does warrant a bit more caution, no?

PonderinHog

Quote from: PorkRinds on January 17, 2017, 05:53:38 pm
Dude broke his neck. That does warrant a bit more caution, no?
Minor surgery.  Wasn't my neck. 

26.2Hog

Quote from: PorkRinds on January 17, 2017, 05:53:38 pm
Dude broke his neck. That does warrant a bit more caution, no?

Glad to see you agree with me.


ErieHog

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 17, 2017, 09:12:42 am
He would be on the sideline getting healthy and be ready for spring football. One freaking Belk Bowl game does not matter. Just shows the lack of depth that has been recruited at linebacker to rush someone back from a serious injury. Coach B should have used better judgment and held this young man back.

He's a football player who has essentially lost a half season of eligibility due to an injury;  he has a clean bill of health given to him by doctors, and is wanting to play.   Now, you can sit him out if you like,  but the medical is telling you it is fine, the kid wants to play, and its one of four shots he's going to get at a bowl experience at Arkansas--  and the future can still be taken away from him in a single snap,  by something unrelated.

There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to keep the kid out of the Belk Bowl.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

code red

Quote from: ErieHog on January 17, 2017, 07:59:16 pm
He's a football player who has essentially lost a half season of eligibility due to an injury;  he has a clean bill of health given to him by doctors, and is wanting to play.   Now, you can sit him out if you like,  but the medical is telling you it is fine, the kid wants to play, and its one of four shots he's going to get at a bowl experience at Arkansas--  and the future can still be taken away from him in a single snap,  by something unrelated.

There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to keep the kid out of the Belk Bowl.
It seems...there was...and someone missed it.
"If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today."  Dr. Lou

ATU HOG

Having a full off-season to heal, grow, and develop was/is more important than winning the Belk Bowl.

tophawg19

the belk bowl was a major game and important to the kid . he may never make it there again. and it was a foot injury . RW3 had a major injury and the red /white game is meaningless except for fans . he gets several more months to heal . See the difference ? probably not .
if you ain't a hawg you ain't chitlins

hobhog

Quote from: ATU HOG on January 19, 2017, 12:14:55 pm
Having a full off-season to heal, grow, and develop was/is more important than winning the Belk Bowl.

Says you.

tophawg19

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 17, 2017, 09:12:42 am
He would be on the sideline getting healthy and be ready for spring football. One freaking Belk Bowl game does not matter. Just shows the lack of depth that has been recruited at linebacker to rush someone back from a serious injury. Coach B should have used better judgment and held this young man back.
Mike Anderson approved him coming back. Does that make it ok now ?
if you ain't a hawg you ain't chitlins

Pork Twain

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
If it was my son I would be furious at the coaching staff. No need to play in the Belk Bowl. A lack of sound judgement by the leadership of this team. Go figure
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12247

Just a few years ago, foot injuries were proclaimed to be some of the most difficult injuries to fully heal.  The reason given was that most foot injuries were to small bones that normally carried much weight and/or stress in normal activity like walking, much less running, jumping cutting, etc.  It was offered that those small bones could barely take the stress put on them when at their best, much less recently broken.  Remember, most foot injures of yesteryear the player was out for a full year in many cases.  Now they think they can correct them in 2 or 3 months.  Maybe he won't get in Spring practice and can be ready by the new season.

Biggus Piggus

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factchecker

Quote from: 26.2Hog on January 17, 2017, 04:35:53 pm
RW3.

QuoteWhen it became apparent that Williams wanted to play again, the healing process became arguably more vital than the surgery itself. And Blankenship said Williams nailed it.

"That kid never did anything I told him not to do, and he did everything I told him he could do, and he did it 150 percent," Blankenship said. "Taking care of him was easy."

Williams and his family decided to get a second opinion — something Blankenship encouraged — so the Dallas native went to see the Dallas Cowboys' spinal doctor.

The Cowboys' doctor looked over everything and told the family that Blankenship had handled the procedure exactly the right way. It was confirmed that if Williams wanted to play again, there was no extra risk of reinjuring that part of his neck.

Both doctors agreed that Williams probably could have gone through full contact in spring football, but also recommended waiting until the fall for that, just to be safe.

So when the Razorbacks returned to the practice field in August, Williams was a full participant.

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/introducing-the-surgeon-whose-quick-thinking-saved-rawleigh-williams-iiis-playing-career
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factchecker

Quote from: 26.2Hog on January 17, 2017, 04:35:53 pm
RW3.

Provide evidence to support your claim.  Bielema was more cautious which is not overriding.

Give proof that Bielema went against the wishes of the doctors.... for any player.

If anything Bielema has been too careful.  He would rather a player sit out a half with a bruised thigh then play.
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PLAN ON IT
EARN IT
OMAHOGS

26.2Hog

January 19, 2017, 08:27:57 pm #43 Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 09:17:09 pm by 26.2Hog
Quote from: factchecker on January 19, 2017, 05:26:28 pm
Provide evidence to support your claim.  Bielema was more cautious which is not overriding.

Give proof that Bielema went against the wishes of the doctors.... for any player.

If anything Bielema has been too careful.  He would rather a player sit out a half with a bruised thigh then play.

Good grief, what are you even talking about?  Bielema never "went against the wishes of the doctors."  The doctors didn't "wish" anything.  They simply assured all parties that he was at no additional risk for injury.  The doctors "judged" that he was ready to go.  This was prior to spring practice.

Bielema was cautious, and held him out of contact all spring.  I said I thought that was the correct decision.  Hell, you're spewing venom toward someone that agrees with you. 

"Williams has been cleared for full practice, but according to (ADG Tom) Murphy, coach Bret Bielema has decided the sophomore will wear a no contact jersey until the fall."

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/arkansas-rawleigh-williams-iii-returns-to-practice-for-first-time-since-suffering-neck-injury




PharmacistHog

Quote from: tophawg19 on January 19, 2017, 01:24:19 pm
Mike Anderson approved him coming back. Does that make it ok now ?


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Quote from: GA reddiehog on April 16, 2024, 07:44:38 pmPitching over hyped and hitting nonexistent is going to make for several loses here on out. Maybe it will not be as bad as the BB team. Lack of hitting has been a problem for many moons.

26.2Hog

Quote from: Biggus Piggus on January 19, 2017, 05:03:05 pm
You are full of crap.

The judgement of the doctors prior to spring practice was that RW3 was in no risk of further injury regarding his neck.

Bielema considered that judgement and decided to hold him out of contact all spring.  Like I said, that was a good decision.

You think otherwise, then you are full of crap.

lasthog

Quote from: 12247 on January 19, 2017, 03:59:49 pm
Just a few years ago, foot injuries were proclaimed to be some of the most difficult injuries to fully heal.  The reason given was that most foot injuries were to small bones that normally carried much weight and/or stress in normal activity like walking, much less running, jumping cutting, etc.  It was offered that those small bones could barely take the stress put on them when at their best, much less recently broken.  Remember, most foot injures of yesteryear the player was out for a full year in many cases.  Now they think they can correct them in 2 or 3 months.  Maybe he won't get in Spring practice and can be ready by the new season.

Didn't they used to just shoot them...or was that just horses?