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hogfan10

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 02:20:18 pm
he supported the players & the discussion + dialogue that NEEDS to take place. In case you didn't realize most players come from inner city or impoverished communities of a darker persuasion. Respect their experience & put down your hyper-nationalist approach

This is seriously a question, but have most college/pro athletes (from inner cities) been harassed, abused, arrested, beaten, shot, etc? If not, what life experience are they protesting? If so, I wonder if they contributed to their perceived or actual mistreatment?

 

Lady Razorback

Quote from: Karma on February 17, 2018, 05:43:00 pm
3of5/2 has paid so many taxes that we are all living off of him.

Seriously I just spit out my drink all over my computer screen.   

Hog_Fink

so who else saw black panther this weekend??

Lady Razorback

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 05:50:58 pm
so who else saw black panther this weekend??

Most of America according to the box office numbers.  I will catch it when it's not so crowded.

3of5-2

Quote from: Karma on February 17, 2018, 05:43:00 pm
3of5/2 has paid so many taxes that we are all living off of him.
Never said that, but if that helps your narrative, go ahead.

3of5-2

Quote from: Lady Razorback on February 17, 2018, 05:52:03 pm
Most of America according to the box office numbers.  I will catch it when it's not so crowded.
So around 150 million people, good one.

Hog_Fink

Quote from: hogfan10 on February 17, 2018, 05:50:45 pm
This is seriously a question, but have most college/pro athletes (from inner cities) been harassed, abused, arrested, beaten, shot, etc? If not, what life experience are they protesting? If so, I wonder if they contributed to their perceived or actual mistreatment?

I think tensions are so high between police & inner city communities & the war on drugs has led to so many nonviolent arrests & unwarranted harassment that most people have been affected or had family affected.

I also recognize there's a long way to go to heal race relations. An increasingly militarized police force, along with excessive force, are things I'd figure libertarians would be outraged about. To me, it's not just a black thing.

anyway, I don't think the hyper patriotic argument of "they're disrespecting our military & flag" isn't productive & fails to acknowledge the premise. Also nationalism is dangerous & a fallacy to begin with

hogfan10

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 06:00:30 pm
I think tensions are so high between police & inner city communities & the war on drugs has led to so many nonviolent arrests & unwarranted harassment that most people have been affected or had family affected.

I also recognize there's a long way to go to heal race relations. An increasingly militarized police force, along with excessive force, are things I'd figure libertarians would be outraged about. To me, it's not just a black thing.

anyway, I don't think the hyper patriotic argument of "they're disrespecting our military & flag" isn't productive & fails to acknowledge the premise. Also nationalism is dangerous & a fallacy to begin with


I don't know, I see that as an excuse for bad behavior. I truly believe that the vast majority of police encounters are legit, how they turn out depends on attitudes. And I'm not being race specific, buttheads come in all colors, male or female.

3of5-2

You sound like one of those Antifa kooks. I'm proud of those who serve and have served, and making those sacrifices that nobody knows about unless you have one that has. Tensions become high when race baiters spew their hatred to try and make every cop out to be a racist, when nothing could be further from the truth. You want to confuse Patriotism with Nationalism, totally two different things. I'll continue my support of this great country, there's not a better one on earth.

Hog_Fink

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 06:18:39 pm
You sound like one of those Antifa kooks. I'm proud of those who serve and have served, and making those sacrifices that nobody knows about unless you have one that has. Tensions become high when race baiters spew their hatred to try and make every cop out to be a racist, when nothing could be further from the truth. You want to confuse Patriotism with Nationalism, totally two different things. I'll continue my support of this great country, there's not a better one on earth.

what if the sacrifices our military makes are strictly geopolitical chess moves to further US imperialism by exploiting countries for their resources, profit off weapon manufacturing, & exert control? what if we destabilize, murder innocent people all so Americans can continue to shop on amazon & fill up gas tanks , relatively cheap.

what if black people are actually discriminated against, profiled & harassed by police? don't receive an adequate education in underfunded inner city Schools & have father's that are in prison for nonviolent drug offenses, or can't get jobs with living wages because of nonviolent felonies??

pigture perfect

Quote from: labb on February 17, 2018, 05:49:31 pm
Proverbs 26:4
yep, my paraphrased version is in my sig line.
The 2 biggest fools in the world: He who has an answer for everything and he who argues with him.  - original.<br /> <br />The first thing I'm going to ask a lawyer (when I might need one) is, "You don't post on Hogville do you?"

edt

Quote from: stan the man on February 17, 2018, 01:09:50 pm
Dykes replacement doesn't seem to be any better.  Hope that changes
When you don't know what you are talking about, its best to just keep your pie hole shut

 

AHiD

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 06:18:39 pm
You sound like one of those Antifa kooks. I'm proud of those who serve and have served, and making those sacrifices that nobody knows about unless you have one that has. Tensions become high when race baiters spew their hatred to try and make every cop out to be a racist, when nothing could be further from the truth. You want to confuse Patriotism with Nationalism, totally two different things. I'll continue my support of this great country, there's not a better one on earth.

Do you think that Nazis should be allowed to speak on college campus? If so, why ought Nazis be allowed to speak but the girls' basketball team not be able to kneel?
My name...is Jerruh

ShadowHawg

Quote from: Hogberry Snortcake on February 17, 2018, 11:02:37 am
Per their history, that wasn't a particularly bad prediction.  This KY team, however, ain't got it.

Only one time did a Cal team actually go from struggling to a deep tourney run.

Their history really doesn't support that they get better as the season moves on.

TushCrush

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 06:18:39 pm
You sound like one of those Antifa kooks. I'm proud of those who serve and have served, and making those sacrifices that nobody knows about unless you have one that has. Tensions become high when race baiters spew their hatred to try and make every cop out to be a racist, when nothing could be further from the truth. You want to confuse Patriotism with Nationalism, totally two different things. I'll continue my support of this great country, there's not a better one on earth.
Reply #59 on: Today at 06:18:39 pm << ReplyQuote: You are ignoring this user. >>
Sweet Jesus ...


3of5-2

Quote from: Arkansas Hog in Dallas on February 17, 2018, 06:43:10 pm
Do you think that Nazis should be allowed to speak on college campus? If so, why ought Nazis be allowed to speak but the girls' basketball team not be able to kneel?
Here's the difference snowflake, the players are representatives of the University of Arkansas, and they can do whatever they wish, but expect the pay the consequences. This was about Dykes fully supporting their actions and he was employed by the UofA, and he should have done like MA did for the men's team. He made the wrong decision to support them in their actions, and you see what happened. As far as the Nazi's, I wouldn't go to one of their speeches, but if they are invited or have attained the right to speak, they shouldn't be banned because someone doesn't agree with them. They are not representatives of the University of Arkansas.

GuvHog

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 05:23:52 pm
in regards to 1968 Olympic fist raising...... cmon bud.
1968 I dont think Blacks had too much to be "grateful" about.
And to be honest, it wasn't that long ago & things aren't as substantially improved as a lot of people would like to think

For 20 years, I worked with an African American man who was born in the mid 30's. If you tried to tell him that things haven't changed much, you would really regret it. He'd give you an earful that you would never forget.
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

texas tush hog

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 03:41:57 pm
you probably think the fists up @ the 68 Olympics was an abomination too huh?



As a matter of fact, yes. I love this country. I lost a lot of friends who died defending it

Hog_Fink

Quote from: texas tush hog on February 17, 2018, 07:16:29 pm


As a matter of fact, yes. I love this country. I lost a lot of friends who died defending it

defending it from what?

Hog_Fink

cool guv, I'm glad you made a black friend, buddy. he doesn't speak for anybody, but himself.....

Karma

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 07:16:04 pm
Here's the difference snowflake, the players are representatives of the University of Arkansas, and they can do whatever they wish, but expect the pay the consequences. This was about Dykes fully supporting their actions and he was employed by the UofA, and he should have done like MA did for the men's team. He made the wrong decision to support them in their actions, and you see what happened. As far as the Nazi's, I wouldn't go to one of their speeches, but if they are invited or have attained the right to speak, they shouldn't be banned because someone doesn't agree with them. They are not representatives of the University of Arkansas.
Dude has a bigger problem with players kneeling than Nazi's speaking on the UofA campus.

LivingLegends

This thread haz a sad 😟

AlmaHog2011

Quote from: ShadowHawg on February 17, 2018, 10:21:26 am
I don't think he is a good analyst. He was picking Kentucky to win the conference up until a week and a half ago because they would overcome their bad shooting with athleticism and defense. Now he is singing a different tune.

He is a stick his finger in the air and go with direction The is blowing kind of analyst, imo.

He's not a good analyst. How anyone just crowns the guy because he's from Arkansas I guess.

 

LivingLegends

Butthurt whites are egregious

AlmaHog2011

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 07:18:25 pm
defending it from what?
YOU stupid POS you know. You make me sick!

AlmaHog2011

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 07:19:23 pm
cool guv, I'm glad you made a black friend, buddy. he doesn't speak for anybody, but himself.....

You might try and have a white friend. Then you would be a cool guy.

3of5-2

Quote from: Karma on February 17, 2018, 07:22:14 pm
Dude has a bigger problem with players kneeling than Nazi's speaking on the UofA campus.
I want people to respect the flag, the country, and those that have fought, bled and died for it. I could care less about the Nazi's, so you are wrong about that. However, whether you agree or not with what they say, they do have the right to say it. It's protected, and they don't represent the UofA. This is not a socialist country, at least not yet.

GuvHog

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 07:19:23 pm
cool guv, I'm glad you made a black friend, buddy. he doesn't speak for anybody, but himself.....

Let's put it like this: A young black guy said what you did to my friends face. He wound up leaving real fast with his tail between his legs. Younger people these days have no idea what those people born in that era went through.
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

Hog_Fink

Quote from: AlmaHog2011 on February 17, 2018, 07:26:45 pm
YOU stupid POS you know. You make me sick!

Wish we were as good at defending everybody from lunatic white boy shooters as we are at bombing countries in the middle east

Hog_Fink

Quote from: GuvHog on February 17, 2018, 07:32:38 pm
Let's put it like this: A young black guy said what you did to my friends face. He wound up leaving real fast with his tail between his legs. Younger people these days have no idea what those people born in that era went through.

ok guv, so let me get it straight... you have a black friend born in the 30s & he's furious at the continuation of social justice movements... okay, everything must be all fine & people just like to complain. I just don't understand why people that aren't affected by racism are the first ones marginalizing poc's experience

AlmaHog2011

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 07:40:07 pm
Wish we were as good at defending everybody from lunatic white boy shooters as we are at bombing countries in the middle east

You know you are free to leave? Did you know that? Maybe try another place to live it really doesn't cost much to relocate out of the US.
I'm not really interested in what you have to say I know who you are. It's a waste. There is no hope in people like you and what you are about. CYA.

26.2Hog

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on February 17, 2018, 05:31:57 pm
I see jimmys Mom and wife have chimed in. 😁

Well, Jimmy had to send them because he couldn't be here to defend himself.  He was attending the birth of his next wife.

Randohoggie

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 03:08:53 pm
He supported it FULLY, you can make excuses for him all you want, but that is a FACT. What he should have done, is told the players they were going to stand for the anthem, which is exactly what MA did. You can have discussions and dialogue without disrespecting the flag, the anthem, and those young men and women who are serving, while these ungrateful clowns get free college and free everything. As far as where most of these players come from, I know exactly where they come from. I SPEND time with them on a daily basis, so yeah, I know exactly what's going on with them. Most have very little respect for others, especially towards women, they blame other people for any problems they have because that's what they have been told all of their lives. Drugs are a substitute for oxygen, and their ability to have an intelligent, understandable conversation without using curse words is almost nonexistent. All of which is no excuse not to show respect.

Wow.  You are complete garbage pile of a person.

GuvHog

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 07:32:30 pm
I want people to respect the flag, the country, and those that have fought, bled and died for it. I could care less about the Nazi's, so you are wrong about that. However, whether you agree or not with what they say, they do have the right to say it. It's protected, and they don't represent the UofA. This is not a socialist country, at least not yet.

Exactly. It's called freedom of speech. Both Nazi Speeches and kneeling in protest during the National Anthem are protected.
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

3of5-2

Quote from: Randohoggie on February 17, 2018, 07:44:56 pm
Wow.  You are complete garbage pile of a person.
Just enjoy the freedoms that some of us have provided you.

GuvHog

Quote from: galactivation on February 17, 2018, 07:43:07 pm
ok guv, so let me get it straight... you have a black friend born in the 30s & he's furious at the continuation of social justice movements... okay, everything must be all fine & people just like to complain. I just don't understand why people that aren't affected by racism are the first ones marginalizing poc's experience

I would say a black man who was born in the 30's was affected by racism. When he told me some of the things that happened to him as a boy and a young man, it made me ill.
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

LivingLegends

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 07:49:46 pm
Just enjoy the freedoms that some of us have provided you.
Like kneeling in protest during the anthem?

And you haven't provided anyone Freedoms.  We would have had them if you existed or not.

Hog_Fink

Quote from: AlmaHog2011 on February 17, 2018, 07:43:40 pm
You know you are free to leave? Did you know that? Maybe try another place to live it really doesn't cost much to relocate out of the US.
I'm not really interested in what you have to say I know who you are. It's a waste. There is no hope in people like you and what you are about. CYA.

man, yall are so quick to tell a person to leave once they're critical of US imperialism. You realize our foreign policy effects the whole world right? That a ton of troops have died so weapons manufacturers, contractors, or big corporations can have a pay day?? Cant just be blindly patriotic about everything.

I'm still wondering how our military is protecting our freedoms? and not fulfilling an agenda that undermines developing countries democracies in order to exploit them for resources or regional influence

hogsanity

Cracks me up, yet another person that so many say hey could not care less what he says, yet they obviously do because they jump right into a thread about someone they supposedly could not care less about.

As for Jimmy, he is a god analyst. He was not a good coach, BUT he did have his players backs on a very tough issue. That does not make him a bad analyst. 
People ask me what I do in winter when there is no baseball.  I will tell you what I do. I stare out the window, and I wait for spring.

"Anything goes wrong, anything at all, your fault, my fault, nobodies fault, I'm going to blow your head off."  John Wayne in BIG JAKE

Karma

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 07:49:46 pm
Just enjoy the freedoms that some of us have provided you.
What did you do for my freedom? Other than pay more taxes than I will ever pay in my whole life.

Mr. Porkleone

This thread sucks. While y'all gripping about a has been....

I just downed a 10 piece wing basket with onion rings with sweet tea.

Hog_Fink

Quote from: GuvHog on February 17, 2018, 07:51:21 pm
I would say a black man who was born in the 30's was affected by racism. When he told me some of the things that happened to him as a boy and a young man, it made me ill.

guv... sorry I didn't make it clear, I meant you're marginalizing another person's experience by implying that because a black person said "things have gotten better. theres not a problem anymore"

Anyway, racism is still relevant. America commits war crimes. we shouldn't be proud of atrocities committed by our foreign policy. they aren't defending "freedoms". we should question why people are treated differently still & keep striving to improve. it's okay to be critical.

3of5-2

Quote from: LivingLegends on February 17, 2018, 07:54:35 pm
Like kneeling in protest during the anthem?

And you haven't provided anyone Freedoms.  We would have had them if you existed or not.
Like I said, enjoy them. If there were no one to provide and protect those freedoms, you would be speaking German or Russian. People that continue to take them for granted, are the ones that will be the first to piss their panties at the first sign of trouble.

3of5-2

Quote from: Karma on February 17, 2018, 07:57:46 pm
What did you do for my freedom? Other than pay more taxes than I will ever pay in my whole life.
Glad you weren't there, that's all I will say.

Karma

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 08:06:36 pm
Glad you weren't there, that's all I will say.
Food was bad in the chow line?

3of5-2

Quote from: Karma on February 17, 2018, 08:17:12 pm
Food was bad in the chow line?
You have no clue about any of it, and it's probably best that you don't. We will all be safer that way.

Randohoggie

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 07:49:46 pm
Just enjoy the freedoms that some of us have provided you.

Ok, I will, then you stop complaining about people doing so ... like those players.  It's people like you who don't or can't see beyond your own misconceptions who are trying to stop this country from making any sort of progress.

Karma

Quote from: 3of5-2 on February 17, 2018, 08:23:45 pm
You have no clue about any of it, and it's probably best that you don't. We will all be safer that way.
If you told me would you have to kill me, 007?

3of5-2

Quote from: Randohoggie on February 17, 2018, 08:24:17 pm
Ok, I will, then you stop complaining about people doing so ... like those players.  It's people like you who don't or can't see beyond your own misconceptions who are trying to stop this country from making any sort of progress.
Oh you are a progressive, that explains a lot. Never complained about the players doing what they did, only stated that Dykes fully supported it and the consequences were what they were. I'm pretty confident we've made a tremendous amount of "progress", fortunately we've been able to keep the country out of the socialist ditch.