In Case you Missed it...Words from Jeff Long on the Departures

[WilsonHog]

Courtesy of Ryan Malashock...

"I would be concerned if the student-athletes were leaving for the wrong reasons. I think the student-athletes have left in the best interest of our program and those young people. So I'm not concerned about Coach Pelphrey's leadership of our basketball program. I think that we've made some decisions and some young people in our program made some decisions that will be in our and their best interests." 

Comments?

[The Hogfather]

Sounds like a good take to me....

[heathtits]

Typical PC BS.

Tell me something I don't know please.

[The Hogfather]

Typical PC BS.

Tell me something I don't know please.

If we just didn't have to hear this type of crap everytime someone says something positive about the direction of the program.

Or:

Im going to tell the truth. and i dont care who likes it.Pel flatout stinks as our coach. the 2 and 15 facts dont lie.

Sometimes the truth hurts. and getting rid of Jump Ball aint gonna change the facts.(2 and 15 and dead last in the sec)

What good news? so what, Michael Washington comes back, and we go 6 and 10, instead of 2 and 15. we go to the NIT. so freaking what? i dont post much about basketball anymore because there is little hope.PERIOD!

You are one hopeless excuse maker. it wont take much to improve from 2 and 15.

I for one dont care if you forgive me or not. this man went 2 and 15 in one of the worse confrence in the nation.he has proven nothing here. i stand by everthing i posted until he proves me wrong.and i dont see that happening.

Let them keep fooling themselves. they have been doing it for the last 13 years. and look what it's got them. ending in 2 and 15 in the sec, and dead last place.

Sorry but NIT bids are not enough at arkansas.2 and 15 should have got him fired last year.if this guy cant get us in the Dance this year. he needs to be fired.PERIOD! no more of your lame excuses.

Good! if it's one thing i can not stand it's losers. if you guys want to take losing well. go for it. but i will never accept losing as a way of life for the Razorbacks. if 2 and 15 did not wake you up, nothing will.i dont care if you put me on ignore or not.im going to be right here calling it like i see it. and not telling people everything is fine with this trainwreck basketball program.

Whatever Mike is doing is working. Pel's 2 and 15 record stinks.every team in the country would take Mike over Pel. mike has taken a team to elite 8. when is Pel going to do it? NOT A CHANCE!

What he posted were excuses for losing. let me break this to you and other sunshine pumpers. there is no excuse for going 2 and 15, in the pitiful sec. and none for losing!he like you is an excuse machine.

Even during the dark days of the Nutt years, i never could or would pull for the hawgs to lose. i have never in my life pulled for the Razorbacks to lose in anything.and i never will. i think Pel should have been fired after the disgrace of a 2 and 15 sec season.i think it's a wast of time to bring him back. but i will be pulling for the hawgs to win every game next year.i hope Pel proves me wrong and we have a great season.

Rude' you post is right on the money. this was not just a bad season. this was a 2 and 15 disaster.

He must have. it wont take much for us to improve from 2 and 15. but let's say we go 6 and 10 or sec in the sec.SO WHAT? that's still pitiful.saying we will be better is not saying anything.

I will say it again. i was wrong about Pel and where this program was headed. i admit it.when Pel came here i had lots of high hopes.after the wins over OU and TX, i thought we had the man for the job. but after watching the sec season, and how bad this man coached and recruited. and after watching the off the field crap that went on. i have lost all faith.I think Pel is a bad coach who cant recruit a lick.i have no faith in Pel now.and im man enough to admit i was wrong. im sure you can bring up more old post from when i thought Pel was the man. but it will not make me get off his butt now. 2 and 15, was it for me.

I like a lot of fans got caught up in the moment. and i was 100% wrong. after watching the 2 and 15 Sec season. i have never been more wrong. i no longer believe in Pel.PERIOD!

Basketball. 2 and 15 in the sec. with 3-pointers going in from everywhere.

Another old thread. keep them coming. i really thought the guy was the man. but after watching his 2 and 15 sec season. and all the off court crap. i now know that i was just a fan caught up in the moment. this man is in way over his head. and his 2 and 15 sec record this year proves it. he was a mistake.

Let's see. just because he thinks Pel is doing a terrible job recruiting, he hates Pel and is bashing recruits. just come out and say it. you want him to stop posting because he thinks Pel stinks as a coach and recruiter.2 and 15 will turn off parents and recruits, a lot faster than what some one posting on a board would.all you guys want on here is sunshine.sometimes the truth hurts.

Good! when people stop posting all this sunshine(after a 2 and 15 season)i will stop bringing them back to the Reality.

Jeff Long has made it clear that Pel is back next year(i get it) and yes, if i had my way after going 2 and 15 in the pitiful sec, Pel would have been fired on the spot. but im just a fan and not the AD. i hate the feeling i have about the basketball program. i love hawg basketball. and it makes  me sick to see it this bad.(we finished 12th, dead last in the sec.

That class you call a top 15 class is based on numbers of players and nothing else. how good are those guys? R. Clark, is about the best of the group. Fortson is a 5-9 turnover machine. and JH, cant stay out of trouble. the play of A. Clark and B. Moore speak for itself.we will not be getting any of those players you posted in my opinion.just look at last year.we heard all the bigtime names like Favors and others. and got none of them.i have no faith in Pel or his staff. and my only agenda is watching the Razorbacks win. and not go 2 and 15 in the sec.

And im sick of your sunshine pumping in every post. your defense of Pel in every post is sickening.just like 2 and 15 is sickening.

Not a chance.we heard the same thing last year with guys like D.Favors. this staff has no chance of getting a top 20 national recruit. i will believe it when i see it. another 2 and 15 season, and i dont care who he gets, he has to go!

Im tired of seeing the program all rusted up too. thats why im still so mad about this past season.trying to forget about this nightmare and pretend it never happen,is not right either. the people in charge need to know, that some of us wont forget and are outraged by 2 and 15 at arkansas. and about some of the bad apples we have on this team.

Ok he went 11 and 8 in the sec last year. i will give him that. but we lost 15 out of the 17 sec games we played this year. now when is that meeting going to take place? and why has it not already?

Before anyone says it, i already know about his statement that Pel will be back for another year.(thats over and i get it)but i have never seen anything like this. most AD's would have already had that meeting.after this 2 and 15 disgrace most AD's would not even thought about waiting this long to have that meeting. Long needs to have that meeting with Pel, and make another statement on this 2 and 15 nightmare.since he's keeping Pel, he needs to tell us if Pel is making any changes on his staff. or what is Pel going to do to try an improve this program.saying im bringing the coach back and we were young last year is not enough.what is the coach going to do to make it better Jeff Long? my opinion is you should tell Pel that there is no more excuses for losing! when is that meeting? and why has it not happen already?

Yep 2 and 15 in sec play did it for me. along with all the off the court crap. it's clear to me now.I WAS WRONG. I ADMIT IT!

Recruits are not stupid. and neither are their parents. they know about the 2 and 15. and they know about some of the thugs we have on this team.blame me all you want. but i had nothing to do with the 2 and 15 record. or with losing all our top recruiting targets this past november.(Shawn williams,Clerence trent,A.J.Walton and others. i had not posted a bad word about Pel when those recruits said NO! this past season was it for me with Pel. he is in way over his head in my opinion. and getting mad at me wont change that. dont blame me for the bad recruiting.

Im guilty. i never said give the guy a new contract. but i thought we may have found our man. and then 2 and 15 in the pitiful sec started. and i took a hard look at his recruiting and bence coaching in sec play. im man enough to admit i was wrong about this guy. i dont think he is a very good coach. and i think his recruiting flatout stinks.I WAS WRONG!

Thanks Tomhog. taking shots at me wont change 2 and 15.but if it makes some people feel better,so be it.i love the hawgs win or lose. but im going to call it like i see it.

Because it is what it is. it does not take another year to see this man is not a very good coach, and cant recruit.2 and 15 , and dead last in the pitiful sec speaks for itself.

My nightmare basketball season just will not end.i get off work and find out that the guy that could bring this program back to what it use to be(Mike Anderson) is now in talks with Tiger high. and we are sitting here saying give a guy who went 2 and 14, and cant recruit, another year. this is my worse basketball season ever.this is why i said in my audio commentary that waiting another year to try to hire Mike will be to late. we blew it again.

15 losses in the pitiful sec for one thing. not being able to control his players is another thing. and his team playing no defense is another thing. even bad teams should be able to improve on defense. we did not. thats coaching. plus i think he is a terrible recruiter.

No! a bad year at arkansas should be 8 and 8 or 7 and 9 in the sec. we should never go 2 and 15.EVER! PERIOD!

Going 2 and 15 in the sec this year was pitiful.this was not just a bad year as some say. this was catastrophic. had not been seen in almost 40 years.

Yea, you Sunshine pumpers got what you wanted. the pitiful Job Pel did this year may go away from this forum. but going 2 and 15 in the pitiful sec is not going away. now i am out of here.

What about mike Anderson's 30 and 6 record. and having mizzo in the sweet 16? im keeping that in your face mR. 2 and 15.still dont want him as coach?

You Pel excuse makers just wont face the fact will you. were we not 6 points away from 8 wins? and CBP had nothing to work with. this was Pel's second year. his team was 2 and 15 in a pitiful sec. CBP will be here long after Pel is fired, if he wants to be.nice try.

MA and BCG, did not go 2 and 15 in their confrence. and Pel aint no coach k. nice try.

I dont need any other reasons to tell it like it is about Pel. his 2 and 15 record in the pitiful sec, speaks for itself. i dont need anymore almo.

Thank you. he knows that. it's just another way to try and shut up people who disagree with letting Pel come back after this 2 and 15 disgrace. im not about to shut up.

yep Pel is our coach alright. and that is a disgrace to arkansas basketball after a 2 and 15 sec season.Mike Anderson has Mizzo in his 3rd year 30 and 6, and in the sweet 16. want to bet  Pel has this team anything close to that this time next year. and it will be his 3rd year. so no excuses.

2 and 15 in the sec. and the worse confrence season in almost 50 years. needs to be in hawg fans face every day. no coach should ever keep his job at the U OF A, after a season like that. it's not about me. i had nothing to do with this disgrace. be mad at Pel. he coached this nightmare.

Here's what you dont get. it cant get any worse! 2 and 15 and last place in the pitiful sec. it cant get any worse than that. Pel needs to be fired! and Jeff Long, needs to get us a real coach who knows what he is doing. cut our losses now!

This is a great basketball program. and its time we start acting like one again. the idea that 2 and 15 in the pitiful sec, does not get the coach fired is a joke. we can not let this go unchecked.it was not just a bad season. a bad season at arkansas is going 18 and 12 and 8 and 8 in the sec. this was our worse confrence season in 48 years. thats not a bad season. thats a disaster.

I just got off work and saw this crap blamming me and Wally Hall for this Pel disgrace. dont blame me. i had nothing to do with 2 and 15. let me tell you something. you dont tell me who to be a fan of. i will be a Razorback fan forever.and im not going to pump sunshine to make you happy.i want Pel gone. and all your crying about how terrible i am wont change my opinion. im going to call it like i see it. if it's good, fine. if it's bad, so be it.

When Pel wins back to back NC. he can have 2 or 3 down years and i would not give a crap. but we will never have to worry about that. we like 2 and 15 to much.

It gets really, really old and monotonous.

I just did a spell check on this post and MAN am I sorry I did that!

[ErieHog]

 Have to love the Chicken Little folks;   'The sky is falling! It's over!  Fire the coach!'

Policy maker:  'Not over.'

Chicken Little:  'He's lying!  If he's not lying, fire him too!'

[heathtits]

Seriously THE BEST news this program has had in a year is Powell qualifying. That reminds me of a Chris Rock skit, "You know the worst thing about jiggas? Jiggas always want credit for some darn they supposed to do. A jigga will brag about some darn a normal man just does. A jigga will say some darn like, "I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb [CENSORED]! What kind of ignorant darn is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having [CENSORED]!

You guys' standards are absurdly low. But just as long as people are "talking" about our program being positive rather than actually showing ANY SIGNS whatsoever. We just lost 2 MORE PLAYERS, give me a freaking break.

[The Hogfather]

Seriously THE BEST news this program has had in a year is Powell qualifying. That reminds me of a Chris Rock skit, "You know the worst thing about jiggas? Jiggas always want credit for some crap they supposed to do. A jigga will brag about some crap a normal man just does. A jigga will say some crap like, "I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb motherFranker! What kind of ignorant crap is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having motherFranker!

You guys' standards are absurdly low. But just as long as people are "talking" about our program being positive rather than actually showing ANY SIGNS whatsoever. We just lost 2 MORE PLAYERS, give me a freaking break.

We have actually "LOST" just one player recently.  And, even if we "lose" the player who is suspended right now, I think it will help our team. 

We "lost" two guys who care too much about themselves on the basketball court and not enough about themselves off of the basketball court.

Sounds like a positive thing for the program to me.  Of course, I have a tendency to think more rationally than some.....

[WilsonHog]

"God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference."

Some people need to commit this to memory, 'cause some wisdom is seriously lacking.

[heathtits]

"God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference."

Some people need to commit this to memory, 'cause some wisdom is seriously lacking.

The U of A told me I get some of that with my degree. Is that true?

[HawgAdvocate]

Courtesy of Ryan Malashock...

"I would be concerned if the student-athletes were leaving for the wrong reasons. I think the student-athletes have left in the best interest of our program and those young people. So I'm not concerned about Coach Pelphrey's leadership of our basketball program. I think that we've made some decisions and some young people in our program made some decisions that will be in our and their best interests." 

Comments?

It's obvious to me that Long's response shows that he is being kept up to speed on the status of Pel's program, and he agrees with what is happeneing to restore the basketball program.

If a player leaves, there's a good reason why. If this was just PC talk by Long, he would not have added those last two sentences.

Get over it haters, we're making progress.   

[WilsonHog]

The U of A told me I get some of that with my degree. Is that true?

A wise professor once said "Getting and using is two very different things."

Either that or "You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need."

[ruarealhogfan]

Seriously THE BEST news this program has had in a year is Powell qualifying. That reminds me of a Chris Rock skit, "You know the worst thing about jiggas? Jiggas always want credit for some crap they supposed to do. A jigga will brag about some crap a normal man just does. A jigga will say some crap like, "I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb motherFranker! What kind of ignorant crap is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having motherFranker!

You guys' standards are absurdly low. But just as long as people are "talking" about our program being positive rather than actually showing ANY SIGNS whatsoever. We just lost 2 MORE PLAYERS, give me a freaking break.

I'm sure Marshawn would love for you to walk up to him on campus & call him a "jigga"...

[thirtythree]

It's obvious to me that Long's response shows that he is being kept up to speed on the status of Pel's program, and he agrees with what is happeneing to restore the basketball program.

If a player leaves, there's a good reason why. If this was just PC talk by Long, he would not have added those last two sentences.

Get over it haters, we're making progress.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!! +1

[donewithdale]

I'm sure Marshawn would love for you to walk up to him on campus & call him a "jigga"...

'tits didn't.  Chris Rock did.  Marshawn may like to meet him. 

[bwbcpa]

Courtesy of Ryan Malashock...

"I would be concerned if the student-athletes were leaving for the wrong reasons. I think the student-athletes have left in the best interest of our program and those young people. So I'm not concerned about Coach Pelphrey's leadership of our basketball program. I think that we've made some decisions and some young people in our program made some decisions that will be in our and their best interests." 

Comments?

^This is a benign statement, but it means the players have been told to either get in the program or move on. I would suspect there is quite a bit of cleanup being done throughout the whole program, football, basketball, track, baseball, etc. Petrino has probably jerked a few tails, but he has more personnel to draw from than Pel, so the effect wouldn't be as noticeable as with a small roster. One thing I notice is that I'm not hearing anything from the Board or Foundations' reaction as I was hearing through the Nutt fiasco, so this direction may have the Board's support to this point.. We could be on a good path - as painful as it is. 

[donewithdale]

^This is a benign statement, but it means the players have been told to either get in the program or move on. I would suspect there is quite a bit of cleanup being done throughout the whole program, football, basketball, track, baseball, etc. Petrino has probably jerked a few tails, but he has more personnel to draw from than Pel, so the effect wouldn't be as noticeable as with a small roster. One thing I notice is that I'm not hearing anything from the Board or Foundations' reaction as I was hearing through the Nutt fiasco, so this direction may have the Board's support to this point.. We could be on a good path - as painful as it is. 

What I am surprised hasn't been jumped on yet is Long saying: "...we've made some decisions..."  What role is Long playing in cleaning up the basketball program?  Did he use 'we' meaning literally Long and Pelphrey made decisions together?   Would 'we' have been used if he were commenting on DVH or Petrino cutting loose players? 

[bwbcpa]

Jeff Long has all the information available to him to make intelligent remarks.  He gets an opportunity to look at the BIG picture and react accordingly.  He knows, along with Pelphrey, that the APR will take time to heal.  After talks with Coach Pelphrey,  I'm sure Long understands the direction that Pelphrey is attempting to take the Razorback basketball team.  It will take time.  I think Jeff Long understands the complete sports dynamic.  He doesn't come off as "knee jerk" to me...

I would bet the farm they have a very well-defined plan of action and all the Administrative support they need - for now.

[bwbcpa]

Then why is Hogville calling for Pelphreys head?

Not me.

[kimjongsqUeAl]

Courtesy of Ryan Malashock...

"I would be concerned if the student-athletes were leaving for the wrong reasons. I think the student-athletes have left in the best interest of our program and those young people. So I'm not concerned about Coach Pelphrey's leadership of our basketball program. I think that we've made some decisions and some young people in our program made some decisions that will be in our and their best interests." 

Comments?

MAN!!!! that is about as PC as you can get!  But that's the way it is now a days.  Everyone I think needs to lighten up.  I'm sure JL and Pel know all the pros and cons and every aspect of every angle you can take in this matter.  Let's just sit back and see what happens.   I doubt any of this is will destroy Razorback Basketball program anytime soon.  It is frustrating and kinda embarrassing actually but it happens.  If you got a bunch of fools on your team and you give them chance after chance to get straight and they don't - then get rid of them.  But this is unique so we'll just have to wait and see what they do.

[hogfaninbr]

Then why is Hogville calling for Pelphreys head?

because every idiot with a computer now has a voice to the globe.  The good Internet giveth, the good Internet taketh away

[Niels Boar]

"God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference."

Some people need to commit this to memory, 'cause some wisdom is seriously lacking.

I believe the Calvin and Hobbes prayer has been granted more frequently.

Calvin: "Know what I pray for? The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't and the incapacity to tell the difference."

Hobbes:  "You are going to lead an interesting life."

[HawgAdvocate]

You guys' standards are absurdly low. But just as long as people are "talking" about our program being positive rather than actually showing ANY SIGNS whatsoever. We just lost 2 MORE PLAYERS, give me a freaking break.

Were you for or against Henry and Welsh being on this team again this year? Cause, in case you hadn't noticed, these two were doing a little bit of harm. Have you not been paying attention?

And as for our "standards," I don't see anyone giving digital high-fives as if to say "Mission Accomplished." We have a long way to go.

[SpareRib]

I think it's fun to see six figure guys make decisions they are qualified for and paid to make while the ant farm gets its knickers in a wad trying to second guess where they ate lunch and dropped their crumbs.   

[Coondog Hog]

It's obvious to me that Long's response shows that he is being kept up to speed on the status of Pel's program, and he agrees with what is happeneing to restore the basketball program.

If a player leaves, there's a good reason why. If this was just PC talk by Long, he would not have added those last two sentences.

Get over it haters, we're making progress.   

The best way to measure progress in in wins and losses we will know next March whether we are making acceptable progress or not.

[heathtits]

I'm sure Marshawn would love for you to walk up to him on campus & call him a "jigga"...

Uhh okay? That came from left field.

Thank you Dale for having acceptable reading comprehension.

[rzrbackrob]

The two biggest problems last year were youth(inexperience) and team chemistry. The players that were not disrupting team chemistry are a year older the others are gone. Seems like good news to me.

[Oliver]

The two biggest problems last year were youth(inexperience) and team chemistry. The players that were not disrupting team chemistry are a year older the others are gone. Seems like good news to me.

A problem bigger than either of those two was that when we played defense with five players on the court, it was just as effective as if we were playing defense with no guys on the court.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

If we just didn't have to hear this type of crap everytime someone says something positive about the direction of the program.

Or:



It gets really, really old and monotonous.

I just did a spell check on this post and MAN am I sorry I did that!

+100  and yes it gets really, really old really really fast.  It would also be one thing if he were clever, witty, or entertaining in the least.  If I wanted to hear from someone so bitter about their own miserable existence that they have to b!tch every 5 seconds about the same dam thing, I'd talk to my mother in-law.

[Foshodo]

Then why is Hogville calling for Pelphreys head?

because a lot of idiots here feel like being internet or call in show famous...

or theyve convinced themselves that their constant griping actually had some affect on Nutt's stay here so now theyre taking any displeasure they have and running with it... 

[rzrbackrob]

A problem bigger than either of those two was that when we played defense with five players on the court, it was just as effective as if we were playing defense with no guys on the court.

The Hogs nonexistent defense was the most irritating manifestation of the youth and chemistry problems that plagued last season. A 6' 4" guard with long arms that played lock down defense might have helped also.

[TMc]

It sounds exactly like he said it to me.., We wish those well who would have more playing time by moving on to another school.., and to those that have/ and will be shown the door, it is a privelege to be here, and if you don't understand that - we wish you well. ..also.

[Oliver]

A 6' 4" guard with long arms that played lock down defense might have helped also.

Well we have that now in Farmer but it will take good defensive fundamentals along with that height and arm length for it to be effective...there were no fundamentals on defense last year except ole out of the way while the other player took the ball to the hole.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Well we have that now in Farmer but it will take good defensive fundamentals along with that height and arm length for it to be effective...there were no fundamentals on defense last year except ole out of the way while the other player took the ball to the hole.

I heard the new red matador capes are really cool.  They are red with two white stripes (Tusks) down the middle.  The will definitely add some much needed flair.

[woodrow hog call]

 I kept trying to get the goobers on the radio this morning to explain how the program is "out of control" when there is discipline being handed down and rules being enforced. If it takes a couple more years to get this program up to standards I 'am fine with that as long as I know the guys at the top are calling the shots (Pel and Long) and not the players. Most of these players have been good enough to get by on their talent alone all through high school, now they they have to grow up and be held accountable for their actions, that is how it should be and someday they will be thankful.
       the double standards in today's world drives me nuts sometimes, look at the Mcnair situation, would he be better off had someone somewhere jerked him up by the shirt collar and told him to get his act straightend out, told him how stupid he was being his life. But we don't do that with an NFL QB, we praise them and idolize them and ignore their irresponsible behavior until this happens and then we say what a waste. 

[LRMedHawg]

There is alot more to being a good basketball team than experience and chemistry.  Don't get me wrong, those are important but so are things like talent and stability.  We have some talent returning, but we have also opened a few big gaps.  With Washington and Powell on the team I was starting to get excited again about our season after a rocky end to last season, but now our guards are dropping like flies.  This program lacks stability right now and that is Pel's fault.  It does seem that he now wants to try and stable the ship but to do so we might be in for a damn long overhaul.  I want to know why Pel is starting now, after the recruiting period, and a year later than it should have been. 

[Oliver]

I heard the new red matador capes are really cool.  They are red with two white stripes (Tusks) down the middle.  The will definitely add some much needed flair.

Very nice!

[Bryan (CHF)]

A wise professor once said "Getting and using is two very different things."

Either that or "You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need."

Wise words from the Philosopher Jagger....

[chog68]

Typical PC BS.

Tell me something I don't know please.

Exactamundo my friend...Nuff said....