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Recent Ark Dem - Gaz. article on men's basketball academic progress

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vandybuff

June 30, 2009, 08:50:38 pm
The article said that six 'seniors' left the team in a recent season and none graduated.  If they are within a full semester of their degree, how is it that all six choose not to spend that little bit of extra time for something that would be worth so much to these students?

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ErieHog

June 30, 2009, 09:21:09 pm #1
Because it really isn't worth that much to them?


Everyone's motivations are their own; they don't feel they owe anything to the program, in terms of finishing on their own dime.


There's nothing that says that they were 'only' a semester away from completion, either.  Some of these guys do the minimum possible to remain eligible, and never have a degree in mind.
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3kgthog

June 30, 2009, 09:22:21 pm #2
I'm sure some of them figure they'll play ball in Europe, make six figures and have no need for a degree. At least Steven Hill is taking online classes to finish his major.

vandybuff

July 01, 2009, 04:21:32 am #3
Quote from: ErieHog on June 30, 2009, 09:21:09 pm
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There's nothing that says that they were 'only' a semester away from completion, either.  Some of these guys do the minimum possible to remain eligible, and never have a degree in mind.

I am confused - would not 'to be a senior' mean that they were 'on course' to complete a bachelors program that year?  (In other words, if they were behind in the program they would not be a senior.)  That is how I concluded that they would only be a semester away. 
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ErieHog

July 01, 2009, 11:45:27 am #4
Quote from: vandybuff on July 01, 2009, 04:21:32 am
I am confused - would not 'to be a senior' mean that they were 'on course' to complete a bachelors program that year?  (In other words, if they were behind in the program they would not be a senior.)  That is how I concluded that they would only be a semester away. 

Not necessarily.   Keep in mind, for NCAA reporting, you are classified by year of eligibility, not academic completion.  It's how you have so many stories about good academic performers, who are actually in graduate school, competing as seniors, etc.
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vandybuff

July 01, 2009, 12:13:38 pm #5
Quote from: ErieHog on July 01, 2009, 11:45:27 am
Not necessarily.   Keep in mind, for NCAA reporting, you are classified by year of eligibility, not academic completion.  It's how you have so many stories about good academic performers, who are actually in graduate school, competing as seniors, etc.
So now you say there are some full time student/athletes that are not completing a four-year program in five years?  That is sad for the student and the school.  And do understand, I am speaking at any school - not just Arkansas, Vandy, etc.
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