John Wooden in his prime or Pelphrey

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

I know who I'd choose, but I'm actually a little curious for some of you 

[ErieHog]

Not a hard question, but dang... I wish we had the recruiting rules Wooden faced.

We could buy some danged good players

[HoopS]

Point made.   This one is too simple.


Of course the answer is the unforgettable....

John Pelphrey

[davehog]

C. None of the above, choosing Nolan in HIS prime.

[newera]

This is retarded. Wooden won what? 10 Championships in 12 years? or something ridiculous like that. If you don't choose Wooden, you don't know basketball.

[oldfart]

as mentioned above, wooden and UCLA had some sugar daddies.. it was said that wooden did not know about it but how could he not.  he coached a number of years before his teams became successful.  also, the way the ncaa tourney was set up in those days there were fewer teams and also they played by section of the country so ucla did not have to face eastern teams in the tourney that often.

[ruarealhogfan]

This is retarded. Wooden won what? 10 Championships in 12 years? or something ridiculous like that. If you don't choose Wooden, you don't know basketball.

nm

[newera]

Sorry that sarcasm isn't easily understood on the internet.

[sirhog]

IIRC, at one time Wooden had the top players in the country "tryout" for UCLA and then would select the guys he wanted. No wonder he won so much.

[ruarealhogfan]

Sorry that sarcasm isn't easily understood on the internet.

My bad, I apologize...

[newera]

My bad, I apologize...

It's all gravy.

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

Point made.   This one is too simple.


Of course the answer is the unforgettable....

John Pelphrey

Oh me too, but can you believe some of the guys on here that are still thinking about it?

Yep, we've got the next big thing as our coach. And man can he wear a red blazer!

[HoopS]

Best thing since unsliced bread. 

[deucea729]

Okay, so I admit it - this thread made me laugh. 

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

It shouldn't make you laugh. This was completely serious. I'm not gonna lie, this question has kept me up nights, at least 4 nights last week.

On one hand, Wooden won so many national titles. But Pelphrey he...um.. He beat Tennessee in the SEC tournament that one time. And he also...beat that powerhouse Indiana team in the first round!! Yeah, that was money.

[porkinsons disease]

I know who I'd choose, but I'm actually a little curious for some of you 

Pelphrey is gonna be damn good. He has the passion. But continue your "witchhunt: if it gives you some sort of SATISFACTION.

[Corkscrew Johnson]

I'm not exactly following the sarcasm. 

Are you making fun of the posters with blind and unwavering support for Pelphrey?

Or are you making fun of the posters who have the expectations that we could fire Pelphrey and then cherry pick our next coach from basketball's elite?

[outlawhogeywells]

If Pel or any other coach had the same rules that Wooden got to use for recruiting then that is a different question

[Wild Bill Hog]

It shouldn't make you laugh. This was completely serious. I'm not gonna lie, this question has kept me up nights, at least 4 nights last week.

On one hand, Wooden won so many national titles. But Pelphrey he...um.. He beat Tennessee in the SEC tournament that one time. And he also...beat that powerhouse Indiana team in the first round!! Yeah, that was money.

Who would you rather have:  Johnny Unitas in his prime or Tyler Wilson?  Bart Starr in his prime or Ryan Mallett?

Feel free to add other equally "valuable" comparisons.   

[truhog]

John Wooden in his prime > anyone who EVER coached college basketball at any point in their lives, including Adolph Rupp

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

I'm not exactly following the sarcasm. 

Are you making fun of the posters with blind and unwavering support for Pelphrey?

Or are you making fun of the posters who have the expectations that we could fire Pelphrey and then cherry pick our next coach from basketball's elite?

The blind and unwavering crew.

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

Who would you rather have:  Johnny Unitas in his prime or Tyler Wilson?  Bart Starr in his prime or Ryan Mallett?

Feel free to add other equally "valuable" comparisons.   

Oh, well that's obvious.

Tyler Wilson and Ryan Mallett.

[HoopS]

Blind and unwavering fan here. 

All I am saying or really ever have is Pel should be allowed to get his recruits on campus and seasoned a little.   Do I like the discipline issues?   No.  But let's also admit this isn't the first time we've had issues on campus.   Do I like the transferring?   No, but I am glad the ones who did have been replaced with, hopefully, better players and kids who can stay out of trouble. 

I need to see progress next season.   I expect to see the discipline issues handled.  I expect to see us land key recruits. 

I will remain behind this coach throughout this next season, unless he spits the bit.  He may.  He may not.  If he does, then I'll be ready for change and MA would suit me just fine.  Or Wooden.

[DoubleJ]

Jenny McCarthy or Kathy Bates?

[hawgchill]

THIS is just ** DRUNKEN**

Re-direct to sumthin' like:

Wooden BBall    OR  Red Aurebach NBA
Wooden BBall    OR John McDonnell Track

Coach Wooden in his prime assasinates ANY, and I
mean ANY active College coach dontcha' THINK??

P.S.
  NOT tryin' 2 be a a@@h@le either,
THAT'S just da TRUTH

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

Blind and unwavering fan here. 

All I am saying or really ever have is Pel should be allowed to get his recruits on campus and seasoned a little.   Do I like the discipline issues?   No.  But let's also admit this isn't the first time we've had issues on campus.   Do I like the transferring?   No, but I am glad the ones who did have been replaced with, hopefully, better players and kids who can stay out of trouble. 

I need to see progress next season.   I expect to see the discipline issues handled.  I expect to see us land key recruits. 

I will remain behind this coach throughout this next season, unless he spits the bit.  He may.  He may not.  If he does, then I'll be ready for change and MA would suit me just fine.  Or Wooden.

And I agree. I've often said that he deserves another year. But for those that pretend that he's accomplished more than a guy like Mike Anderson, that's laughable. I don't know how they would do that with a straight face.

I think Pelphrey is an above average coach, again, not as bad as our showing last year. I don't think he worked a miracle as many do in 2008, that was a good team. We actually underachieved, seeing as how we started off ranked and didn't end that way. That's neither here nor there though.

[Yoko Oinko]

Casey Stengal or Dave Van Horn?
Knute Rockne or Bobby Petrino?
John McDonnell or......?  Nevermind.

[rzrbackrob]

A program that doesn't give a coach an honest chance to succeed or a program that hires the best coach it can at the time and gives him time to succeed.

[Newhopehog]

John Wooden had the best players that the head of a studio could buy with an unlimited cash flow...Is that great coaching???

[ruarealhogfan]

And I agree. I've often said that he deserves another year. But for those that pretend that he's accomplished more than a guy like Mike Anderson, that's laughable. I don't know how they would do that with a straight face.

I think Pelphrey is an above average coach, again, not as bad as our showing last year. I don't think he worked a miracle as many do in 2008, that was a good team. We actually underachieved, seeing as how we started off ranked and didn't end that way. That's neither here nor there though.

Who said Pel has accomplished more than Mike A.? 

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

Who said Pel has accomplished more than Mike A.?

Nobody I hope. Which is why I'd take Anderson over Pelphrey.

[Corkscrew Johnson]

And I agree. I've often said that he deserves another year. But for those that pretend that he's accomplished more than a guy like Mike Anderson, that's laughable. I don't know how they would do that with a straight face.

I think Pelphrey is an above average coach, again, not as bad as our showing last year. I don't think he worked a miracle as many do in 2008, that was a good team. We actually underachieved, seeing as how we started off ranked and didn't end that way. That's neither here nor there though.

Im with Hoops.  Im willing to wait another year, watch Pelphrey run his system, and then feel a little more confident in my decision that he needs to stay or go.  After all, this is his first real chance to shine with his own squad.  I also believe that Pelphrey needs to land some serious talent next year, or his fate might be decided before March.

I'm not sure anyone has argued that Pelphrey has achieved more than Anderson.  The way I have interpreted the defense of Pelphrey is that (a) he needs a chance to prove himself (like Anderson got at Mizzou), and (b) Anderson might not be the best candidate in the grand scheme of things if we must conduct a new search.  If Pelphrey fails next year, there are a few candidates I would take before Anderson (with no offense intended, great guy, wonderful system).  Getting all giddy over an Elite 8 run is how we ended up with STAN. 

[ruarealhogfan]

Im with Hoops.  Im willing to wait another year, watch Pelphrey run his system, and then feel a little more confident in my decision that he needs to stay or go.  After all, this is his first real chance to shine with his own squad.  I also believe that Pelphrey needs to land some serious talent next year, or his fate might be decided before March.

I'm not sure anyone has argued that Pelphrey has achieved more than Anderson.  The way I have interpreted the defense of Pelphrey is that (a) he needs a chance to prove himself (like Anderson got at Mizzou), and (b) Anderson might not be the best candidate in the big picture.  If Pelphrey fails next year, there are a few candidates I would take before Anderson (with no offense intended, great guy, wonderful system).  Getting all giddy over an Elite 8 run is how we ended up with STAN.

Well said...

[bigdaddyhawg]

C. None of the above, choosing Nolan in HIS prime.

[hawgsav1]

Not a hard question, but dang... I wish we had the recruiting rules Wooden faced.

We could buy some danged good players

You forgot the boosters that Wooden had.  I wish we had a Sam Gilbert to throw money around for us.l

[HogBreath]

I'm not the president of the Pelphrey fan club by any means, let there be no doubt, and last season was an absolute freaking disaster.      D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R!!!!  A bad joke.


But....I sorta, kinda, maybe, hopefully think... that Pelphrey is actually a pretty darned good coach.

But he better start getting things turned around real quick like.  And I kinda think he'll do just that.

[HoopS]

Kind of sad that you have to say that with the caveat, huh?

I'm not sure how good he ends up being.  We certainly saw flashes. 

Adding Powell can help immediately.   Also, I am starting to believe the Nobles pickup may pay more dividends than I initially thought.  Supposedly, he is a good on-the-ball defender.   What I didn't realize is he has great handles and passing ability and penetrates well.  Imagine that with Clark, Henry and others squared up on the perimeter.   Fortson will have to work to stay ahead of him, but at the very least, he'll give Fort the rest he needs and hopefully without a dropoff.   Powell can also shoot it if he's set or in rhythm.   Then you add a guy like Farmer who can stroke it.   Bryant can be a guy who is tenacious on D and is athletic enough to block some shots, grab some rebounds and finish on the break. 

I like what he has assembled up there.  Not guaranteeing anything, but I can see that this group, if given time, could turn out to be pretty salty.   

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

Pelphey. He will have more championships than Wooden before he is finished.

[mellonhead]

Are you really serious?

[JEM]

John Wooden
signed JP     :razorback:   Go HOGGGGS

[asparkm]

Pelphey. He will have more championships than Wooden before he is finished.

Mr. Overtheroadtruckdriver, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

Well, asparkm, this was simply the stupidest question ever posed on here, and I simply responded with the stupidest answer humanly possible. Its like asking whether you'd rather have michael jordan in his prime or vlade divac in his prime. I mean whoever in the hell asked this question may as well have asked the jordan question. How anyone could take my answer seriously should be the one whose soul we are praying for, not mine.....dummy.

[asparkm]

It was a joke (much like your original post).... It's from the movie Billy Madison. 

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

I did mean this as a joke...but I also had to come to terms with the fact that a handful would hem and haw and make excuses as to why J. Pelphrey is a better option than John Wooden in his prime, and they didn't disappoint.

[ruarealhogfan]

I did mean this as a joke...but I also had to come to terms with the fact that a handful would hem and haw and make excuses as to why J. Pelphrey is a better option than John Wooden in his prime, and they didn't disappoint.

Obviously, the sarcasm has been lost on you since the beginning of this thread...

[PoormansRobbyHampton]

Obviously, the sarcasm has been lost on you since the beginning of this thread...

I got it, thanks.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

Mr. Overtheroadtruckdriver, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

Man, 27 posts and you're already begging for mercy on people's souls for their posts? I like that in a newbie. Get in there and stir some crap up. Don't take any bs off of anyone. Plus 1 to you, sir.

[FanWithFacts]

This thread reminds me of the Matt Jones - Tim Tebow debate from a while back.

[jackflash]

Still don't understand why this post was made? Guest it was for humor sake. Or to get Mike Anderson name brought up again?

[Jacob "2 Scoops" Johnson]

Mr. Overtheroadtruckdriver, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

Oh my, you sir just made me pull an oblique laughing so hard. +1, classic.