Nutt vs Mike for Baylor job

[DbjHog]

They are saying that Mike is the leading canidate. So I ask this...Why would they pick Nutt over him?

[midnighthog]

He's a winner and a fighter?

[COCHISE]

They are saying that Mike is the leading canidate. So I ask this...Why would they pick Nutt over him?

HC experience is the only reason that comes to mind.

[peakhog]

Stick with the NFL Mike!

[axedawg]

When do we get to hear the announcement for the new HC??  C'mon Nutt, I'm pullin' for ya, Brutha!!   


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[hoglady]

Me too !!!
I'm actually more excited about this, than I was walking into WMS yesterday.
Boy - it really is past time for a new coach.

[JHGiunta]

They are saying that Mike is the leading canidate. So I ask this...Why would they pick Nutt over him?

I want Nutt GONE Yesterday.  But I will answer your post in the most positive, realistic way that I can.

Main Reasons:

In 10 years as Arkansas' Head Coach in the SEC (toughest conference in the NCAA) HDN has:

1) ....... been to the SEC Championship game twice.
2) ....... been named SEC COY twice.
3) ....... acquired the national reputation of being able to "do more with less".   
4) ....... acquired a .500 conference record. (In the SEC)
5) ....... Mike Singletary has no head coaching experience.
6) ....... They're Baylor. 

Thanks

[rayrayc17]

Main Reasons:

5) ....... Mike Singletary has no coaching experience.

I know it's a minor point, but Mike Singletary does have coaching experience, just not head coaching experience.  This from Wikipedia:

In 2003, Singletary became linebackers coach for the Baltimore Ravens (pairing Singletary with Ray Lewis). Following the 2004 season, the San Francisco 49ers hired Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan to be their head coach, and Singletary left the Ravens with Nolan to be San Francisco's assistant head coach and linebackers coach.

In 2007, Singletary interviewed for the head coaching job of the Dallas Cowboys and San Diego Chargers, but was ultimately passed over. He remains a head coaching prospect.

That, and Singletary, as an alum of Baylor would be a great hire for the university.  And, along with his charisma and motivational speaking background, would probably do a great job of getting a better haul of recruits than some of the past coaches.

But, I also hope they end up with Nutt.

[rljjr]

Singeltary is a Baylor guy. I bet the bears would like to have him about as much as a lot of folks here want Butch for the same reasons

[SLC]

Didn't someone say Mike wanted 3 mil?  If true, that would be a big reason.

[JHGiunta]

Main Reasons:

5) ....... Mike Singletary has no coaching experience.

I know it's a minor point, but Mike Singletary does have coaching experience, just not head coaching experience.  This from Wikipedia:

In 2003, Singletary became linebackers coach for the Baltimore Ravens (pairing Singletary with Ray Lewis). Following the 2004 season, the San Francisco 49ers hired Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan to be their head coach, and Singletary left the Ravens with Nolan to be San Francisco's assistant head coach and linebackers coach.

In 2007, Singletary interviewed for the head coaching job of the Dallas Cowboys and San Diego Chargers, but was ultimately passed over. He remains a head coaching prospect.

That, and Singletary, as an alum of Baylor would be a great hire for the university.  And, along with his charisma and motivational speaking background, would probably do a great job of getting a better haul of recruits than some of the past coaches.

But, I also hope they end up with Nutt.

That is what I meant to put.  Thanks for catching that.  +1

[SLC]

Main Reasons:

5) ....... Mike Singletary has no coaching experience.

I know it's a minor point, but Mike Singletary does have coaching experience, just not head coaching experience.  This from Wikipedia:

In 2003, Singletary became linebackers coach for the Baltimore Ravens (pairing Singletary with Ray Lewis). Following the 2004 season, the San Francisco 49ers hired Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan to be their head coach, and Singletary left the Ravens with Nolan to be San Francisco's assistant head coach and linebackers coach.

In 2007, Singletary interviewed for the head coaching job of the Dallas Cowboys and San Diego Chargers, but was ultimately passed over. He remains a head coaching prospect.

That, and Singletary, as an alum of Baylor would be a great hire for the university.  And, along with his charisma and motivational speaking background, would probably do a great job of getting a better haul of recruits than some of the past coaches.

But, I also hope they end up with Nutt.

That is what I meant to put.  Thanks for catching that.  +1

NFL coaching experience.  Big question though, can he recruit?  In today's game, name recognition alone is not enough.  In addition, how many kids he would be recruiting would have ever seen him play?

[texas tush hog]

They are saying that Mike is the leading canidate. So I ask this...Why would they pick Nutt over him?

             
            A lot of their people feel like they made a mistake by putting too much stock in the
NFL credentials of Morris not just his Kentucky experience, want a more college oriented
coach this time. Besides Nutt was all but hired at Baylor in 1997 before he changed his mind
and at Franks urging took the Boise State job after Pokey Allen died. He had already lined
up his co-ordinators and had to call them back and apologize. Boise was supposed to be his
catapult to greatness so Broyles could hire him at Arkansas. Boise was loaded with two of
Pokey's best recruiting classes but the best Nutt coul do was 4-7 which became 5-6 after
Nutt left because of a forfeit. This and Pokey's last team which went 1-10 playing mostly
Freshmaen a nd sopomores while Pokey was battling cancer which he would lose are the onl
two losing seasons Boise had in the last 25 years.

[Cartoon Man]

He loves the helmet.

[rayrayc17]

Main Reasons:

5) ....... Mike Singletary has no coaching experience.

I know it's a minor point, but Mike Singletary does have coaching experience, just not head coaching experience.  This from Wikipedia:

In 2003, Singletary became linebackers coach for the Baltimore Ravens (pairing Singletary with Ray Lewis). Following the 2004 season, the San Francisco 49ers hired Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan to be their head coach, and Singletary left the Ravens with Nolan to be San Francisco's assistant head coach and linebackers coach.

In 2007, Singletary interviewed for the head coaching job of the Dallas Cowboys and San Diego Chargers, but was ultimately passed over. He remains a head coaching prospect.

That, and Singletary, as an alum of Baylor would be a great hire for the university.  And, along with his charisma and motivational speaking background, would probably do a great job of getting a better haul of recruits than some of the past coaches.

But, I also hope they end up with Nutt.

That is what I meant to put.  Thanks for catching that.  +1

NFL coaching experience.  Big question though, can he recruit?  In today's game, name recognition alone is not enough.  In addition, how many kids he would be recruiting would have ever seen him play?

I suppose my point was that Singletary's motivational/star personality could be a good recruiting tool.  Definitely couldn't be worse than having Guy Morris. 

In addition, he does have the presence/personality to do a great job.

But again, I digress.  I hope Hooty gets the job.  I'm a Singletary fan and hope he stays put in the NFL. 

[Boarcephus]

Someone made an interesting point last night about why Baylor kind of shyed away from MS and that was because of his mixed marriage.  I've always liked the guy and could care less who he's married to and this is a stab, but without having a clue who she is, she has to be a better person than one Mrs. Houston Nutt.

[Lake City Hog]

Maybe they are like many here in Arkansas, they think MS should "pay his dues" at a lower level school as coordinator or head coach first.

[hogSGreer]

Singeltary is a Baylor guy. I bet the bears would like to have him about as much as a lot of folks here want Butch for the same reasons

This is true.  The people that know about football on campus are extremely excited about the possibility of getting singletary.

[tophawg19]

nutt's record against texas should be enough to win the job.

[JShipCPA]

Hootie will have a difficult time beating out Singletary for this job... 

He is a legend in Wacko...

[wacohog]

Someone made an interesting point last night about why Baylor kind of shyed away from MS and that was because of his mixed marriage.  I've always liked the guy and could care less who he's married to and this is a stab, but without having a clue who she is, she has to be a better person than one Mrs. Houston Nutt.

I doubt that this is true.  Baylor and Walter Abercrombie are still tied together,  and Walter's spouse,  fwiw,  is anglo.

I really don't believe at all that this is an issue(as it shouldn't be.)

[axedawg]

Perhaps we should get bizzy on the Baylor boards and start pimpin' him hard!  "Psssttt...hey Bears, wanna coach you can keep for 10 yrs??"   

[Dr Swineglove]

I wouldn't wish HDN on the Iranian national soccer team. 

[wacohog]

Singeltary is a Baylor guy. I bet the bears would like to have him about as much as a lot of folks here want Butch for the same reasons

This is true.  The people that know about football on campus are extremely excited about the possibility of getting singletary.

I know that Grant Teaff is pushing a bit for Singletary,  but believe it or not,  Nutt enjoys more than a little support down here amongst the Baylor faithful I know well.

I hate to break it to you,  but I don't think that the rest of the world cares very much about Mitchgate,  textual relations,  Gus-to-tulsa,  etc.  I think that Baylor sees in Nutt a well-known coach that has enjoyed some success in the SEC. They understand that expectations at Baylor are different than those at a place like Arkansas.  If Nutt were to duplicate his 60% win ratio at Baylor,  he'd be a hero.

I want Nutt to leave my Hogs now;  I also think that he might be a great fit for Baylor.  He'd have a clean slate,  could join the 'right' church down here,  rehab his image a bit and his enthusiasm would be a great-deal different from the ever-quiet Morriss .

This is how my Baylor friends see it,  which is fine with me

[wacohog]

nutt's record against texas should be enough to win the job.

Well,  it certainly doesn't hurt him any

[memphishog]

baylor took a hard look at singletary when they hired morris. my fear is they won't want to "make the same mistake twice" rather than taking our problem.

[wacohog]

baylor took a hard look at singletary when they hired morris. my fear is they won't want to "make the same mistake twice" rather than taking our problem.

yes they did,  and I'm not sure that Mike isn't the first choice.  I still think, based on what I'm hearing,  that the decision has NOT been made,  and that Nutt is still in the running

[yraciv]

Nutt fits the religious aspect of thie university I think, as long as he can keep Diane away from 2X4 comments.

[Hoggish1]

Singeltary is a Baylor guy. I bet the bears would like to have him about as much as a lot of folks here want Butch for the same reasons

This is true.  The people that know about football on campus are extremely excited about the possibility of getting singletary.

I know that Grant Teaff is pushing a bit for Singletary,  but believe it or not,  Nutt enjoys more than a little support down here amongst the Baylor faithful I know well.

I hate to break it to you,  but I don't think that the rest of the world cares very much about Mitchgate,  textual relations,  Gus-to-tulsa,  etc.  I think that Baylor sees in Nutt a well-known coach that has enjoyed some success in the SEC. They understand that expectations at Baylor are different than those at a place like Arkansas.  If Nutt were to duplicate his 60% win ratio at Baylor,  he'd be a hero.

I want Nutt to leave my Hogs now;  I also think that he might be a great fit for Baylor.  He'd have a clean slate,  could join the 'right' church down here,  rehab his image a bit and his enthusiasm would be a great-deal different from the ever-quiet Morriss .

This is how my Baylor friends see it,  which is fine with me

Fine with me too.  I think there is something to be said for seeing it like they do.