Hogs issues with FG kicking

[DeltaBoy]

We have 3 kickers? What has happened to this Program that historically had some of the Best FG kickers in College Football. 

Steve Little
Ish Ordanz (SP)
Zach Hocker

and many others.

This is one area CBB gonna to have to fix.

[Vantage 8 dude]

We have 3 kickers? What has happened to this Program that historically had some of the Best FG kickers in College Football. 

Steve Little
Ish Ordanz (SP)
Zach Hocker

and many others.

This is one area CBB gonna to have to fix.

Well, golly gee. I have a strong suspicion that CBB along with the entire staff is well aware that ALL teams need a strong kicking game, and not just FGs. We can rest assured the issue(s) is being addressed.

[Uncommon]

Cole. Hedlund.

As the kids say, just wait on it.

[Poker_hog]

The kid that redshirted last year was a can't miss prospect.  Hopefully he shows why this year.

[DeltaBoy]

I brought it up cause they were talking about it on the Radio.  I remember a time we  hardly knew who the kicker was cause he just trotted out there and did his job.

[bigdaddyhawg]

We have 3 kickers? What has happened to this Program that historically had some of the Best FG kickers in College Football. 

Steve Little
Ish Ordanz (SP)
Zach Hocker

and many others.

This is one area CBB gonna to have to fix.

Well, here's hoping Bret gets right on it!!

[sowmonella]

We will be just fine on FG's.  McFain was 70% last year. FYI Ordonez was 71% career and Little was under 60%. Cole will be great this year.

[tbhogfan]

Cole Hedlund was the #1 rated place kicker in his class, and has the record for most FG's in a HS career. 

If he lives up to his potential, he will be a very good one.

[BorderPatrol]

I brought it up cause they were talking about it on the Radio. I remember a time we  hardly knew who the kicker was cause he just trotted out there and did his job.

Wait, so your OP was just nonsense?

This thread is confusing.

bp

[DeltaBoy]

The Kid Bobby got was lights out in HS but not so hot at times on the hill.

Wait, so your OP was just nonsense?

This thread is confusing.

bp

Your confused; before Little I never knew who the kicker was but from Little to know I have kept up with them and our best most recent one is Hocker.

[ricepig]

The Kid Bobby got was lights out in HS but not so hot at times on the hill.
Your confused; before Little I never knew who the kicker was but from Little to know I have kept up with them and our best most recent one is Hocker.

You didn't know who Bill McClard was?

[bigdaddyhawg]

We will be just fine on FG's.  McFain was 70% last year. FYI Ordonez was 71% career and Little was under 60%. Cole will be great this year.

Misleading stats.  Both Ordonez and Little were attempting a lot of long FG's.  McFain didn't attempt all that many.  Makes a big difference.

[HappyFan]

Anyone ever heard of Pat Summerall?  :razorback:

[PonderinHog]

Misleading stats.  Both Ordonez and Little were attempting a lot of long FG's.  McFain didn't attempt all that many.  Makes a big difference.

It also makes a lot of difference as to where you spot the ball after the missed field goal.

[zane]

Anyone ever heard of Pat Summerall?  :razorback:

I have

He was a football announcer- right?

[Cresthog]

How can you not mention Tejada with the greats?!?!

[98hogs]

Ish wasn't great

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

How can you not mention Tejada with the greats?!?!

Brendan O'Donohoe much

[PonderinHog]

Lahay.

[ImHogginIt]

It also makes a lot of difference as to where you spot the ball after the missed field goal.

They also did away with kicking tees on field goals and pat's about 25 years ago. Really cut down on a lot of long attempts after that.

[gmarv]

back in the day we got to the fifty yard line we were in littles range.before the rule change you might as well try the field goal a miss was as good as a punt.so times they have changed.seems they where also lax on the rules on what kind of ball could be used.
we just need one of the kids to be the next zack hocker.

[ImHogginIt]

I would like to have seen what Toff Latourette could have done on field goals with a kicking tee.

[sowmonella]

Misleading stats.  Both Ordonez and Little were attempting a lot of long FG's.  McFain didn't attempt all that many.  Makes a big difference.

Ish had a very limited range. Little was dangerous from 67 and closer. They also both used a tee. Kendall Trainor was another good kicker.

[gmarv]

bill mcclard ( I think that's how you spelled his name) was the last of the great straight ahead kickers seems like.

[bphi11ips]

Anyone ever heard of Pat Summerall?  :razorback:

Mickey Cissell?

[bphi11ips]

Cole. Hedlund.

As the kids say, just wait on it.

I not scare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukdTy9KDnpw

[Lake City Hog]

With a FG kicker that was just a tad above average and we win a couple more games in 2014. Don't understand the jerkery to a thread that is pretty much true.

Rank   FG Attempts (Career)   Player   Year
1   89   Steve Little (made 53)   1974-77
2   79   Zach Hocker (made 61)   2010-13
2    79   Todd Wright (made 60)   1989-92
4   71   Todd Latourette (made 47)   1995-98
5   69   Kendall Trainor (made 51)   1985-88
6   62   Ish Ordonez (made 44)   1978-80
7   54   Alex Tejada (made 37)   2007-10
8   53   Greg Horne (made 29)   1983-84
9   46   Bill McClard (made 29)   1969-71
10   40   Chris Balseiro (made 28)   2002-05

Yeah, we have had some VERY good kickers over the years. I hope that Hedlund makes this list before he leaves.

[Pig in the Pokey]

I brought it up cause they were talking about it on the Radio.  I remember a time we  hardly knew who the kicker was cause he just trotted out there and did his job.

but i also remember Tejada...

[PorkSoda]

10   40   Chris Balseiro (made 28)   2002-05

why haven't heard that name in a while.  had no idea he was a top 10 kicker for us.

[pignparadise]

besides having the ball come back to the line of scrimmage most people don't know that the goal post were narrowed from 22 to 18 foot wide. In Little's day you kicking at high school wide goal posts.

[Rocket23]

Couple of other changes affecting kickers was when a missed field goal quit being a touch-back and being spotted at the 20-yard line and when the goalposts were narrowed.

[Bacons Rebellion]

You didn't know who Bill McClard was?

Actually, Mike Kirkland was the kicker before Little. McClard was before Kirkland. Bob White before McClard. Ronnie South before White. Tom McKnelly before South.

Did I leave anyone out?

[gmarv]

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Actually, Mike Kirkland was the kicker before Little. McClard was before Kirkland. Bob White before McClard. Ronnie South before White. Tom McKnelly before South.

Did I leave anyone out?

I don,t know if you left anyone out but your showing off your age if you actually remember.i remember them all but mcknelly and I ain,t what you call young.

[plucknstrum]

bill mcclard ( I think that's how you spelled his name) was the last of the great straight ahead kickers seems like.

Let's not forget Steve Cox.  Great Hog career and pro career, plus he kicked and punted in college and the NFL.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

Hocker is a tough act to follow.

Let's get the season going before we declare there is an 'issue' with our kicking game in '15...it's a new year.

I think the kickers and coach's have worked on this, and we'll be respectable, as McFain ended '14 OK and if he's beat out we'll be even more solid.

" GO HOGS "

[RyanLR]

If he's starting as a freshman, that should tell you that this kid is going to be special.

[redeye]

We've lost so many games to missed FG's in recent years, so I sure hope Hedlund is the real deal.  Having a reliable kicker can't be overrated.

[jkstock04]

Hocker is a tough act to follow.

Let's get the season going before we declare there is an 'issue' with our kicking game in '15...it's a new year.

I think the kickers and coach's have worked on this, and we'll be respectable, as McFain ended '14 OK and if he's beat out we'll be even more solid.

" GO HOGS "

Cost us at least one game last season. Typical that most would think it asanine to question the kicking game after last season.

[ErieHog]

Good placekicking is a luxury in college football.

I mean, we had non-stop complaints when Hocker was here, about the inability to generate NFL frequency in touchbacks, though our rates were above average, no matter who we gave kickoff duty to in that time frame.

[gmarv]

Let's not forget Steve Cox.  Great Hog career and pro career, plus he kicked and punted in college and the NFL.

yeah thanks I had forgotten steve cox the kid was good.

[Albert Einswine]

Delta, you jumped the gun on this one and probably plotted out Robert Shields' next "column".

[DeltaBoy]

We've lost so many games to missed FG's in recent years, so I sure hope Hedlund is the real deal.  Having a reliable kicker can't be overrated.

This is why after the radio segment I posted about it.

[Exit Pursued by a Boar]

I was at the game when a kicker from Charleston went to Fayetteville and hit three FGs for Tulsa in a game we lost 9-7. He later transferred to the Hogs and did a pretty good job:  Steve Cox. I guess that since he was a transfer he didn't have enough attempts to  make this list.

EFBAB

With a FG kicker that was just a tad above average and we win a couple more games in 2014. Don't understand the jerkery to a thread that is pretty much true.

Rank   FG Attempts (Career)   Player   Year
1   89   Steve Little (made 53)   1974-77
2   79   Zach Hocker (made 61)   2010-13
2    79   Todd Wright (made 60)   1989-92
4   71   Todd Latourette (made 47)   1995-98
5   69   Kendall Trainor (made 51)   1985-88
6   62   Ish Ordonez (made 44)   1978-80
7   54   Alex Tejada (made 37)   2007-10
8   53   Greg Horne (made 29)   1983-84
9   46   Bill McClard (made 29)   1969-71
10   40   Chris Balseiro (made 28)   2002-05

Yeah, we have had some VERY good kickers over the years. I hope that Hedlund makes this list before he leaves.

[DeltaBoy]

Cox was a great kicker.

[Mr. Barnett (rbarnet424)]

With a FG kicker that was just a tad above average and we win a couple more games in 2014. Don't understand the jerkery to a thread that is pretty much true.

Rank   FG Attempts (Career)   Player   Year
1   89   Steve Little (made 53)   1974-77
2   79   Zach Hocker (made 61)   2010-13
2    79   Todd Wright (made 60)   1989-92
4   71   Todd Latourette (made 47)   1995-98
5   69   Kendall Trainor (made 51)   1985-88
6   62   Ish Ordonez (made 44)   1978-80
7   54   Alex Tejada (made 37)   2007-10
8   53   Greg Horne (made 29)   1983-84
9   46   Bill McClard (made 29)   1969-71
10   40   Chris Balseiro (made 28)   2002-05

Yeah, we have had some VERY good kickers over the years. I hope that Hedlund makes this list before he leaves.

to think that Hocker had that 1 nasty year 2012 (who didn't?) where he only hit 61% . His numbers would be even better right now

Year   Team   G   FGM   FGA   Pct   XPM   XPA   Pct   Pts
2010   Ark    13   16   19   84.2   56   56   100.0   104
2011   Ark    13   21   27   77.8   55   57   96.5   118
2012   Ark    12   11   18   61.1   32   32   100.0   65
2013   Ark    12   13   15   86.7   28   28   100.0   67

[DeltaBoy]

You didn't know who Bill McClard was?

NOPE cause the Hogs were not on TV much and we listened to the game on the Radio

[BorderPatrol]

NOPE cause the Hogs were not on TV much and we listened to the game on the Radio

The radio guys never mentioned who made the FG or EP?

bp

[DeltaBoy]

The radio guys never mentioned who made the FG or EP?

bp

Don't know I was a kid and was in and out of the house with my cousins.

[DoctorSusscrofa]

I think I'll just say, "Go Hog!"

[hawg66]

Let's not forget Steve Cox.  Great Hog career and pro career, plus he kicked and punted in college and the NFL.

+1 - cox was pretty good as FG guy, and phenomenal as a punter.